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The new government by Mrs May is so far appearing to be very different from that it was before, which seems very appropriate on Bastille Day.
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stilettoes works better.0
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Osborne and Letwin OUT
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Gavin Williamson has jumped how many rungs on the ladder? Cameron's aide to Chief Whip?!0
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Gavin Williamson, Dave's long serving PPS, apparently Chief Whip.0
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Hunt in no. 10 now, LBC still thinks he isn't getting health. Hopefully IDS stays sacked.0
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Bastille Day Bloodbath.0
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Seems sensible given how many Cameroons/Osbornites are now in the backbencher.JohnO said:Gavin Williamson, Dave's long serving PPS, apparently Chief Whip.
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Any news on the lovely Priti Patel yet?0
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More stilettoe heels that kitten. – I’ll consult Miss BeverlyC and get back to you on that...0
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Nicky Morgan is outout OUT!!!
I am willing to forgive the Boris error. GoMay!!!!0 -
No more Chumocracy.rottenborough said:Bastille Day Bloodbath.
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As someone who is wishing Mrs May well, I do wonder if she has overdone the sackings
Who would you have kept?0 -
Missing some of the puzzle pieces here. Transport has to go somewhere.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Also very close to Dave and George, given the influence and confidence that the Chief Whip enjoys, very interesting appointment.JohnO said:
I'd say almost three as CW effectively a Cabinet member.PlatoSaid said:Gavin Williamson has jumped how many rungs on the ladder? Cameron's aide to Chief Whip?!
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It all feels a bit random..........0
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Re the comments of the foreign ministers and Schultz - this sounds to me like they are worried that the initiative is being taken away from them. A good early start from May under the circumstances. She needs to be ahead of the game as it will clearly get rougher as time goes on. The other explanation of course is they are just 3 idiots mouthing off.0
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And all hived off elsewhere, or are we looking at an infrastructure & competitiveness super depratment? [edit: typo left in, as may have comedy value]TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
The ruthlessness of May's sackings suggest she doesn't care if her majority evaporates. That can only be because (a) she's prepared to lead a minority or coalition government if it means dumping the rightards, or (b) she's already decided on an autumn general election.0
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There's a pun in there.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Missing some of the puzzle pieces here. Transport has to go somewhere.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Surely they are going to get merged into a single department into a single "UK PLC ministry".TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Former Transport secretary now Party Chair and Duchy of Lancaster0
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Nicky Morgan, she's close to Gove, with the sacking of Gove and Morgan, there's the potential for at least 46 pissed off Tory MPsCarlottaVance said:As someone who is wishing Mrs May well, I do wonder if she has overdone the sackings
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The penny finally drops:
@bbclauraK: Lots and lots of changes, this is more like a new govt after an election than a reshuffle0 -
I dunno. If you are crap you are out. If you were one of Osborne's you are out. If you crossed the Home Office in last five year you are out.FrankBooth said:It all feels a bit random..........
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She doesn't wear stilettoes. But a kitten heel in the back will kill just as soundly.Ishmael_X said:stilettoes works better.
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Skills and universities gone fron Bis, Climate change could easily go (back) to DEFRA. That would leave energy (Hinckley Point C) and Transport (HS2)...Pro_Rata said:
And all hived off elsewhere, or are we looking at an infrastructure & competitiveness super depratment?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
@JGForsyth: Patrick McLoughlin, a former miner, as party chair is another sign that May determined to rid Tories of reputation as the party of the rich0
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When I reported on PB yesterday that there were radical changes afoot the new May government i wasn't quite expecting this much.
MAY the force be with you ....0 -
Sky News - Crabb into Downing Street0
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Is Nicky Morgan actually any good?TheScreamingEagles said:
Nicky Morgan, she's close to Gove, with the sacking of Gove and Morgan, there's the potential for at least 46 pissed off Tory MPsCarlottaVance said:As someone who is wishing Mrs May well, I do wonder if she has overdone the sackings
Who would you have kept?
Why would May dump a competent minister?
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should she change FTPA and go to the country.CarlottaVance said:As someone who is wishing Mrs May well, I do wonder if she has overdone the sackings
Who would you have kept?0 -
Stephen Pollard
Theresa May appears to have sat in Cabinet for 6 years looking at colleagues quietly planning the day she can kill them off0 -
Because it is a new government !!CarlottaVance said:The penny finally drops:
@bbclauraK: Lots and lots of changes, this is more like a new govt after an election than a reshuffle0 -
Has Labour disintegrated yet ?0
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Patrick Kidd
Labour MP Kevin Brennan tells Commons that Boris to FCO is the most remarkable political appointment since Caligula made his horse a senator0 -
look at their backgrounds. many working class.FrankBooth said:It all feels a bit random..........
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BBC news scroll was saying jeremy hunt sacked over an hour ago. Did they jump the gun?IanB2 said:Hunt in no. 10 now, LBC still thinks he isn't getting health. Hopefully IDS stays sacked.
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What of Grayling?0
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New Department for Long-term Infrastructure? (Makes some sort of sense for them to be combined in some ways - although I can see it very easily becoming the 'new' graveyard post)TheWhiteRabbit said:
Skills and universities gone fron Bis, Climate change could easily go (back) to DEFRA. That would leave energy (Hinckley Point C) and Transport (HS2)...Pro_Rata said:
And all hived off elsewhere, or are we looking at an infrastructure & competitiveness super depratment?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Nope.GIN1138 said:
Do you think she's over done it?JackW said:When I reported on PB yesterday that there were radical changes afoot the new May government i wasn't quite expecting this much.
MAY the force be with you ....
I keep harping on about this but it isn't a reshuffle. It's a new administration and government.0 -
Come now. "The most remarkable political appointment since Corbyn became LOTO." Labour would be in a lot less trouble if a horse was in charge.PlatoSaid said:Patrick Kidd
Labour MP Kevin Brennan tells Commons that Boris to FCO is the most remarkable political appointment since Caligula made his horse a senator0 -
what, again?Alanbrooke said:Has Labour disintegrated yet ?
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Newsnight were convinced that May was basically going to be more regulation, more big government, more like the French, then today she closes down a load of departments like Climate Change.0
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felix said:
Re the comments of the foreign ministers and Schultz - this sounds to me like they are worried that the initiative is being taken away from them. A good early start from May under the circumstances. She needs to be ahead of the game as it will clearly get rougher as time goes on. The other explanation of course is they are just 3 idiots mouthing off.
I think Theresa is going to stitch this up with Angela, then tell Francois (if it drags on that long, or his successor) and take it from there....people were commenting yesterday on 'Oh look, they're being driven in German cars.....probably a coincidence....possibly not...'0 -
All these new government departments/culling of others means another another Labour reshuffle.
God I Love You Thersa0 -
There is presumably a need for a beefed up Economics function dealing with internal regulation as the UK extracts itself from the EU regimeMaxPB said:
Surely they are going to get merged into a single department into a single "UK PLC ministry".TheScreamingEagles said:
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She's still stuck with a relatively tiny majority though. You don't think, in a year or two, her enemies will "get her"?JackW said:
Nope.GIN1138 said:
Do you think she's over done it?JackW said:When I reported on PB yesterday that there were radical changes afoot the new May government i wasn't quite expecting this much.
MAY the force be with you ....
I keep harping on about this but it isn't a reshuffle. It's a new administration and government.0 -
6? - probably much longer than that…PlatoSaid said:Stephen Pollard
Theresa May appears to have sat in Cabinet for 6 years looking at colleagues quietly planning the day she can kill them off0 -
Indeed. Both may be looking at promotions though. Would be tough to send the Whips to the back benches and Harper is just as close to the Cameroons as Williamson AIUI, a good way to get them on board without having to deal with the difficult figureheads.JohnO said:0 -
Neigh!John_M said:
Come now. "The most remarkable political appointment since Corbyn became LOTO." Labour would be in a lot less trouble if a horse was in charge.PlatoSaid said:Patrick Kidd
Labour MP Kevin Brennan tells Commons that Boris to FCO is the most remarkable political appointment since Caligula made his horse a senator0 -
Patrick McLoughlin reminds me of Eric Pickles in a slightly smaller collar size.0
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The changes, sackings and promotions that May is implementing are in part a reaction to the stability and loyalty David Cameron showed to his ministers. I thought it was a good feature of the Cameron administration that reshuffles were minimal.
I hope May will be able to give her new appointees time to learn and grow into the brief they have so that there is an understanding of the issues and the solutions can be found without massive unintended consequences.0 -
What's that expression, in some seats you could stick a red rosette on a donkey and still win?PlatoSaid said:
Neigh!John_M said:
Come now. "The most remarkable political appointment since Corbyn became LOTO." Labour would be in a lot less trouble if a horse was in charge.PlatoSaid said:Patrick Kidd
Labour MP Kevin Brennan tells Commons that Boris to FCO is the most remarkable political appointment since Caligula made his horse a senator0 -
This.
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Another? Can we actually class the last reshuffle as complete or merely paused (so far, for the duration of the Conservatives having a leadership election and forming an entirely new government)?TheScreamingEagles said:All these new government departments/culling of others means another another Labour reshuffle.
God I Love You Thersa0 -
Please can we knock this "This" thing on the head, or possibly nip it in the bud?grabcocque said:This.
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This change of government feels way bigger than even the change from the Con-LD coalition to the Con Majority Gov't.0
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HS2? McLouglin was a train fan.0
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posted from Craig Murray's blog:
(Name Redacted)
July 14, 2016 at 09:38
I know this is a bit off topic but I’m consumed with rage over a letter I received this morning from my Constituency Labour Party:
Suspension of meetings: our AGM will no longer take place on 21 July.
View this email in your browser
(Name Redacted)
(Name Redacted)
We have received instructions from the Scottish Labour Party that all local meetings, except those called explicitly and solely to agree nominations for the upcoming leadership election, are to be suspended until after the leadership election is completed.
This means that regrettably our AGM scheduled for 21 July will no longer be taking place.
Full details of the leadership election process should be released shortly. Apologies on behalf of your CLP Executive for this further postponement, which is outwith our control. We will continue to keep you informed on developments.
Best wishes,
Duncan Hothersall
Chair, Edinburgh Southern CLP
Margaret Graham
Secretary, Edinburgh Southern CLP
SLAB shutting down possible dissent?0 -
You fickle old tart ....TheScreamingEagles said:All these new government departments/culling of others means another another Labour reshuffle.
God I Love You Thersa
You're only after Theresa's old cast off shoes ..0 -
That theory could well get tested to destruction shortly.rottenborough said:
What's that expression, in some seats you could stick a red rosette on a donkey and still win?PlatoSaid said:
Neigh!John_M said:
Come now. "The most remarkable political appointment since Corbyn became LOTO." Labour would be in a lot less trouble if a horse was in charge.PlatoSaid said:Patrick Kidd
Labour MP Kevin Brennan tells Commons that Boris to FCO is the most remarkable political appointment since Caligula made his horse a senator0 -
My understanding was this applied to all CLPs, i.e. England and Wales as wellsarissa said:posted from Craig Murray's blog:
(Name Redacted)
July 14, 2016 at 09:38
I know this is a bit off topic but I’m consumed with rage over a letter I received this morning from my Constituency Labour Party:
Suspension of meetings: our AGM will no longer take place on 21 July.
View this email in your browser
(Name Redacted)
(Name Redacted)
We have received instructions from the Scottish Labour Party that all local meetings, except those called explicitly and solely to agree nominations for the upcoming leadership election, are to be suspended until after the leadership election is completed.
This means that regrettably our AGM scheduled for 21 July will no longer be taking place.
Full details of the leadership election process should be released shortly. Apologies on behalf of your CLP Executive for this further postponement, which is outwith our control. We will continue to keep you informed on developments.
Best wishes,
Duncan Hothersall
Chair, Edinburgh Southern CLP
Margaret Graham
Secretary, Edinburgh Southern CLP
SLAB shutting down possible dissent?0 -
You could make a much better government from the Labour and Tory backbench than from either frontbench.0
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Villiers out ... turned down a post0
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Villiers resigns after declining job.0
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I think they want to stop the death threats. Reasonably enough.sarissa said:posted from Craig Murray's blog:
(Name Redacted)
July 14, 2016 at 09:38
I know this is a bit off topic but I’m consumed with rage over a letter I received this morning from my Constituency Labour Party:
Suspension of meetings: our AGM will no longer take place on 21 July.
View this email in your browser
(Name Redacted)
(Name Redacted)
We have received instructions from the Scottish Labour Party that all local meetings, except those called explicitly and solely to agree nominations for the upcoming leadership election, are to be suspended until after the leadership election is completed.
This means that regrettably our AGM scheduled for 21 July will no longer be taking place.
Full details of the leadership election process should be released shortly. Apologies on behalf of your CLP Executive for this further postponement, which is outwith our control. We will continue to keep you informed on developments.
Best wishes,
Duncan Hothersall
Chair, Edinburgh Southern CLP
Margaret Graham
Secretary, Edinburgh Southern CLP
SLAB shutting down possible dissent?0 -
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That would make sense. The merging of ministries is coincidentally a good way to achieve significant cost savings in the medium term.MaxPB said:
Surely they are going to get merged into a single department into a single "UK PLC ministry".TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I think May is like Thatcher in one sense - she believes in 'doing the right thing' - and 'bugger the consequences' - as Thatcher famously retorted when going into an EU meeting 'what does it feel like to be on your own among the 12?' 'It doesn't matter if the other 11 are wrong'....GIN1138 said:
She's still stuck with a relatively tiny majority though. You don't think, in a year or two, her enemies will "get her"?JackW said:
Nope.GIN1138 said:
Do you think she's over done it?JackW said:When I reported on PB yesterday that there were radical changes afoot the new May government i wasn't quite expecting this much.
MAY the force be with you ....
I keep harping on about this but it isn't a reshuffle. It's a new administration and government.
This is a May government - and will sink - or swim, by its own lights.....0 -
+1Ishmael_X said:
Please can we knock this "This" thing on the head, or possibly nip it in the bud?grabcocque said:This.
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It is clear that ridding the Tories of their perception as being from privilege, for privilege, is May's top priority. The rest almost feels secondary.0
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''Was it a health thing? I loved Eric. ''
Me too. Its always great to here conservative sentiments expressed in that fantastic accent, A la Rhodes Boyson and William Hague.0 -
What job is Leadsom going to get?
Northern Ireland?0 -
Well said.Ishmael_X said:
Please can we knock this "This" thing on the head, or possibly nip it in the bud?grabcocque said:This.
Also on the list:
Simples
Popcorn
Colour me (whatever)
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Greg Callus
For completeness, the Lord High Steward, Lord High Treasurer and Lord High Constable are either held in commission or for coronations only0 -
"We are hearing that BIS is to become the Business, Energy and Industry Department - a title which must raise questions about the future of DECC as a standalone department."0
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Energy seems to be the likely one.TheScreamingEagles said:What job is Leadsom going to get?
Northern Ireland?0 -
Merkel is by far and away the most powerful politican in europe. But she is not omnipotent, and she doesn't run the whole EU from her office. She is not more powerful than other EU countries put together. It won't be a UK-Germany secret stitch-up.CarlottaVance said:felix said:Re the comments of the foreign ministers and Schultz - this sounds to me like they are worried that the initiative is being taken away from them. A good early start from May under the circumstances. She needs to be ahead of the game as it will clearly get rougher as time goes on. The other explanation of course is they are just 3 idiots mouthing off.
I think Theresa is going to stitch this up with Angela, then tell Francois (if it drags on that long, or his successor) and take it from there....people were commenting yesterday on 'Oh look, they're being driven in German cars.....probably a coincidence....possibly not...'0 -
This.Jobabob said:
Well said.Ishmael_X said:
Please can we knock this "This" thing on the head, or possibly nip it in the bud?grabcocque said:This.
Also on the list:
Simples
Popcorn
Colour me (whatever)
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People have overused the term 'conviction politician' until it has become almost meaningless. I think May actually is one. That doesn't mean she's ideological, nor does it imply she's not pragmatic. I just think she'll decide what's best and then...Banzai.CarlottaVance said:
I think May is like Thatcher in one sense - she believes in 'doing the right thing' - and 'bugger the consequences' - as Thatcher famously retorted when going into an EU meeting 'what does it feel like to be on your own among the 12?' 'It doesn't matter if the other 11 are wrong'....GIN1138 said:
She's still stuck with a relatively tiny majority though. You don't think, in a year or two, her enemies will "get her"?JackW said:
Nope.GIN1138 said:
Do you think she's over done it?JackW said:When I reported on PB yesterday that there were radical changes afoot the new May government i wasn't quite expecting this much.
MAY the force be with you ....
I keep harping on about this but it isn't a reshuffle. It's a new administration and government.
This is a May government - and will sink - or swim, by its own lights.....0 -
Its not just Scotland. Not all regional directors were as quick off the mark, but basically all branch, constituency or local campaign forum meetings have been "suspended" until the conclusion of the leadership contest. The only formal meetings that can go ahead are meetings to nominate a candidate in that contest or other campaign meetings for local byelections.sarissa said:SLAB shutting down possible dissent?
I expect that a lot of "gatherings" or "social meetings" will be called where there is no formal agenda or minutes. Ironically this is supposed to protect us from brutalising each other over the leadership. Yet a meeting to debate the leadership is permitted!0 -
I'd like to see industry, energy and transport merged into a super Department for Infrastructure.0
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Good moves.0
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Will not exist by this afternoon.numbertwelve said:
Energy seems to be the likely one.TheScreamingEagles said:What job is Leadsom going to get?
Northern Ireland?
The new Business, Energy and Industry Department is a possibility, if the rumours are right0 -
try dumping the pix.Ishmael_X said:
Please can we knock this "This" thing on the head, or possibly nip it in the bud?grabcocque said:This.
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