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    david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,464

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    When I reported on PB yesterday that there were radical changes afoot the new May government i wasn't quite expecting this much.

    MAY the force be with you ....

    Do you think she's over done it?
    Nope.

    I keep harping on about this but it isn't a reshuffle. It's a new administration and government.
    She's still stuck with a relatively tiny majority though. You don't think, in a year or two, her enemies will "get her"?
    I think May is like Thatcher in one sense - she believes in 'doing the right thing' - and 'bugger the consequences' - as Thatcher famously retorted when going into an EU meeting 'what does it feel like to be on your own among the 12?' 'It doesn't matter if the other 11 are wrong'....

    This is a May government - and will sink - or swim, by its own lights.....
    Wasn't that quote about the Commonwealth and sanctions on South Africa?
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    ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819

    image This.

    I don't watch GoT but from what I understand the government appears to have had its own Red Wedding!
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215

    What job is Leadsom going to get?

    Northern Ireland?

    How about Treasury Chief Secretary bearing in mind her extensive finance background?
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,390
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    It is clear that ridding the Tories of their perception as being from privilege, for privilege, is May's top priority. The rest almost feels secondary.

    Absolutely.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,541

    What job is Leadsom going to get?

    Northern Ireland?

    Energy seems to be the likely one.
    Will not exist by this afternoon.

    The new Business, Energy and Industry Department is a possibility, if the rumours are right
    Oops!

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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,444
    They're keeping Hunt? Is that punishment for him or for the NHS?
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    felix said:

    What of Grayling?

    Yes, what has happened to him??
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    I'd like to see industry, energy and transport merged into a super Department for Infrastructure.

    I'd like to see a MInistry for Actually Getting Things Built.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710
    Hunt remaining Health Secretary
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034
    JohnO said:

    What job is Leadsom going to get?

    Northern Ireland?

    How about Treasury Chief Secretary bearing in mind her extensive finance background?
    That would be sensible. Northern Ireland would be the small p political decision.
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    anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746

    "We are hearing that BIS is to become the Business, Energy and Industry Department - a title which must raise questions about the future of DECC as a standalone department."

    That supports a change in policy to pursue cheap energy. Good news!

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    I'm warming to the new PM!

    She's trimming government and clearing out old shit. I particularly think that the BoJO/Fox/Davis appointments are very shrewd and should shut down all 'but will she really' type Brexit wobbles.

    If DECC is dead can we hope that DFID is on the scaffold waiting for someone to kick away the chair? (Slash its budget and give the remnants to Boris).

    At this rate she'll face both Labour and Real Labour/SDP2 in the autumn and win a landslide.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    I do like Sam Coates from The Times - he actually knows stuff. And isn't partisan.
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    anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Pulpstar said:

    JohnO said:

    What job is Leadsom going to get?

    Northern Ireland?

    How about Treasury Chief Secretary bearing in mind her extensive finance background?
    That would be sensible. Northern Ireland would be the small p political decision.
    Also, she has a young daughter, I doubt a move to Ireland would be on the cards.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710
    JohnO said:

    What job is Leadsom going to get?

    Northern Ireland?

    How about Treasury Chief Secretary bearing in mind her extensive finance background?
    Could work. I wonder after all the pressures of the last week, Andrea Leadsom will prefer a spell out of the limelight
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    grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234

    felix said:

    What of Grayling?

    Yes, what has happened to him??
    My guess is since she's dumped Letwin, he'll be DPM and Duchy of Lancaster.
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    LennonLennon Posts: 1,737

    felix said:

    What of Grayling?

    Yes, what has happened to him??
    Stays as Leader of the House and Lord President of the Council?
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    PlatoSaid said:

    Greg Callus
    For completeness, the Lord High Steward, Lord High Treasurer and Lord High Constable are either held in commission or for coronations only

    The Keeper of the Privy Seal of Scotland is vacant ....

    I await a call .... and have done so since that last incumbent, the Marquess of Breadalbane, died in 1922 .... :smile:
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,024
    edited July 2016

    I'd like to see industry, energy and transport merged into a super Department for Infrastructure.

    That's a good call. Changes so far seem well thought through, which is surprising given the severely curtailed timescale of the leadership contest.

    I love the SoS for Trade role, much needed in the post-EU environment. Hopefully he'll disappear on a plane next week and not be seen on these shores again until Christmas. In a good way, of course.

    Business and Energy under the same brief would also be welcome, should lead to less of the "green crap" that literally no-one else in the world is still doing in the face of uncompetitiveness.
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    paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,461

    Pulpstar said:

    JohnO said:

    What job is Leadsom going to get?

    Northern Ireland?

    How about Treasury Chief Secretary bearing in mind her extensive finance background?
    That would be sensible. Northern Ireland would be the small p political decision.
    Also, she has a young daughter, I doubt a move to Ireland would be on the cards.

    I didnt know she was a mother.
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    stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,780
    Keeping Hunt at Health presumably means the Junior Doctors contract will be imposed and signals May's determination not to start her new administration by backing down in an industrial dispute.
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831

    felix said:

    What of Grayling?

    Yes, what has happened to him??
    My guess is since she's dumped Letwin, he'll be DPM and Duchy of Lancaster.
    McLoughlin has got Duchy of Lancaster
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    felix said:

    What of Grayling?

    Yes, what has happened to him??
    My guess is since she's dumped Letwin, he'll be DPM and Duchy of Lancaster.
    Won't be DPM at this late stage, surely. Unless something has not gone to plan.
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    grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    stjohn said:

    Keeping Hunt at Health presumably means the Junior Doctors contract will be imposed and signals May's determination not to start her new administration by backing down in an industrial dispute.

    You broke it, you fix it.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710
    I know he has his many critics, but Lord Feldman also needs replacing, as brilliant as Patrick McLoughlin is, he can't raise the money that Lord Feldman has, nor updated the Tory systems quite so efficiently.
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    I'd like to see Lord Dan Hannan get something.

    I also think May might ease the wounds a bit by inviting Gove to head up a policy unit outside of the cabinet / government. He'd be awesome at that and wouldn't get a chance to scare the horses.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,541
    Wonder what job Villiers was offered that she didn't feel able to take..
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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 914
    "The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP as Conservative Party Chairman and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster."

    Bloody hell does the Queen really approve the Conservative Party Chairman??
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    stjohn said:

    Keeping Hunt at Health presumably means the Junior Doctors contract will be imposed and signals May's determination not to start her new administration by backing down in an industrial dispute.

    Only Hunt and Fallon still in post so far.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    JohnO said:

    JackW said:

    Villiers out ... turned down a post

    So earlier predictions that both Morgan and Villiers would leave confirmed: Hersham having a moderately good reshuffle so far. Now Anna to Ulster!!
    "Reshuffle" !!!!! .... Not you too .. :cry:
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    anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Patrick said:

    I'm warming to the new PM!

    She's trimming government and clearing out old shit. I particularly think that the BoJO/Fox/Davis appointments are very shrewd and should shut down all 'but will she really' type Brexit wobbles.

    If DECC is dead can we hope that DFID is on the scaffold waiting for someone to kick away the chair? (Slash its budget and give the remnants to Boris).

    At this rate she'll face both Labour and Real Labour/SDP2 in the autumn and win a landslide.

    Tim Montgomerie said that Mr Cameron put in a last wish appeal to spare the DFID budget. I hope she axes it. Perhaps she could delay it until we are out of the EU and direct favourable trade terms to v.poor nations?
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,541
    Baroness Evans (Who?) Lords Leader.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584

    felix said:

    What of Grayling?

    Yes, what has happened to him??
    My guess is since she's dumped Letwin, he'll be DPM and Duchy of Lancaster.
    Won't be DPM at this late stage, surely. Unless something has not gone to plan.
    Duchy of Lancaster.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    stjohn said:

    Keeping Hunt at Health presumably means the Junior Doctors contract will be imposed and signals May's determination not to start her new administration by backing down in an industrial dispute.

    Correct. Irrespective of one's views on the dispute, the BMA have been thoroughly beaten at politics.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Icarus said:

    "The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP as Conservative Party Chairman and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster."

    Bloody hell does the Queen really approve the Conservative Party Chairman??

    I guess approving the second mindful of the first.
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215
    JackW said:

    JohnO said:

    JackW said:

    Villiers out ... turned down a post

    So earlier predictions that both Morgan and Villiers would leave confirmed: Hersham having a moderately good reshuffle so far. Now Anna to Ulster!!
    "Reshuffle" !!!!! .... Not you too .. :cry:
    Eek..too late to edit. I prostrate myself as a penitent.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584
    Duchy of Lancaster has gone already.
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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    I wonder, all this radical change not just only people but of departments cannot have been dreamed up in the last week. TM must have been thinking about it for months, if not years, and I doubt by herself. So who are the other players in her backroom? Who are TM's advisors and confidants?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710
    Icarus said:

    "The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP as Conservative Party Chairman and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster."

    Bloody hell does the Queen really approve the Conservative Party Chairman??

    No, only the Duchy of Lancaster part
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034

    Wonder what job Villiers was offered that she didn't feel able to take..

    Probably got told she was staying at NI and said "Sod this for a game of soldiers !"
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    felix said:

    What of Grayling?

    Yes, what has happened to him??
    My guess is since she's dumped Letwin, he'll be DPM and Duchy of Lancaster.
    Won't be DPM at this late stage, surely. Unless something has not gone to plan.
    Duchy of Lancaster.
    Gone to McLoughlin
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    Department of Infrastructure with Adonis as SOS as well as National Infrastructure Commission chair could depoliticise the big awkward decisions
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Pulpstar said:

    Wonder what job Villiers was offered that she didn't feel able to take..

    Probably got told she was staying at NI and said "Sod this for a game of soldiers !"
    I really warmed to Villiers, so calm and sensible - shame to lose her.
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    ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819
    I posted the below last night, and i'm increasingly thinking option 2 looks the most likely. I expect an early election to deal with the sackings destabilising the minimajority. She would win soundly (no landslide though, Labour at near the floor already i think, and Lib Dems may recover nicely). Disappointing for me personally who was hoping for some Norway fudge on brexit, but if May is going to actually stick to her speech yesterday, and those are her aims, there are reasons to be cheerful (for those that liked the sound of her speech yesterday, which I did).

    "May has gone very brexit heavy in the 'outward facing' brexit related departments. The reasons for this could be:

    1) Scapegoating - she wants to ensure that any brexit FUBARs don't fall on her head.
    2) Compromise - she was never a europhile remainer anyway, so no ideological reason to be against brexit, so why choose that hill to die on? Give the Bastards their Brexit and she may be able to crack on with what she really cares about without too much pushback.
    3) Backsliding - A brexiteer can go for EU-lite in a way that a Remainer couldn't."
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Icarus said:

    "The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP as Conservative Party Chairman and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster."

    Bloody hell does the Queen really approve the Conservative Party Chairman??

    Not yet. But we may be applying for Royal Appointment status in view of the implosion of all opposition (apart from the SNP).

    ""By Appointment to Her Majesty the Queen, the Conservative Party, suppliers of public policy and good government"
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584
    Theresa Villiers out. Turned down job. Transport? HS2?
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    edited July 2016
    In other news...

    Celtic are apparently appealing the Gibraltar result.

    Red Imps played a gas fitter in midfield who allegedly wasn't corgi registered.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    Department of Infrastructure with Adonis as SOS as well as National Infrastructure Commission chair could depoliticise the big awkward decisions

    That's an interesting notion.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710
    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?
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    FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    Dare I say it?

    This is a very white cabinet.

    Not that it bothers me either way, but weren't the Tories trying hard to tone down the whiteness?
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    IcarusIcarus Posts: 914

    Icarus said:

    "The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP as Conservative Party Chairman and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster."

    Bloody hell does the Queen really approve the Conservative Party Chairman??

    No, only the Duchy of Lancaster part
    Thats not what the release says.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,667

    Theresa Villiers out. Turned down job. Transport? HS2?

    DfID is more likely.
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    stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,780

    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    Because you pass the duchy on the left hand side. York is on the right hand side.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    Er there is...
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    JohnO said:

    Eek..too late to edit. I prostrate myself as a penitent.

    Not the sort of error I'd expect of a prospective ermine clad chap ..
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710
    Good Lord, Natalie Evans is the new Leader of the House of Lords
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    I wonder, all this radical change not just only people but of departments cannot have been dreamed up in the last week. TM must have been thinking about it for months, if not years, and I doubt by herself. So who are the other players in her backroom? Who are TM's advisors and confidants?

    Apparently Nick Timothy is one.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710

    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    Er there is...
    I meant in the cabinet
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,848
    edited July 2016
    stjohn said:

    Keeping Hunt at Health presumably means the Junior Doctors contract will be imposed and signals May's determination not to start her new administration by backing down in an industrial dispute.

    It also keeps the fallout from the dispute associated with Jeremy Hunt. May can dispense with him after it's over without tarnishing her own name.

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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,856
    @EyeSpyMP: Sacked @NickyMorgan01 at Westminster tube, pulling suitcase.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Fenster said:

    Dare I say it?

    This is a very white cabinet.

    Not that it bothers me either way, but weren't the Tories trying hard to tone down the whiteness?

    May doesn't do tokenism, so we're told. Did you have anyone in mind?
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,024
    Patrick said:

    I'd like to see Lord Dan Hannan get something.

    I also think May might ease the wounds a bit by inviting Gove to head up a policy unit outside of the cabinet / government. He'd be awesome at that and wouldn't get a chance to scare the horses.

    Hannan will probably be picked up by David Davis for his knowledge of the EU, both he and Gove would do very well in a policy unit type role where big brains are needed. Would also keep Gove on the inside of the tent...
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,193
    So how would you say the past month has gone, Mr Gove? Bit of a curates egg?
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,541

    @EyeSpyMP: Sacked @NickyMorgan01 at Westminster tube, pulling suitcase.

    PONWAS
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    grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Ooh, maybe Grayling is angling for a peerage? Leader of the Lords?
    Icarus said:

    Icarus said:

    "The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP as Conservative Party Chairman and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster."

    Bloody hell does the Queen really approve the Conservative Party Chairman??

    No, only the Duchy of Lancaster part
    Thats not what the release says.
    It's complex. The PM is appointing the party chairman, which is a party matter, but also appointing them to the cabinet via a sinecure (Duchy of Lancaster) so presumably the Crown needs to approve that. And it's either both or nothing.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    Er there is...
    I meant in the cabinet
    There are no lands associated with the Dukedom of York
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    FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    John_M said:

    Fenster said:

    Dare I say it?

    This is a very white cabinet.

    Not that it bothers me either way, but weren't the Tories trying hard to tone down the whiteness?

    May doesn't do tokenism, so we're told. Did you have anyone in mind?
    No, not at all.. I'm trying to suss out who was a non-white in the previous Cabinet?

    Patel. Javid. Amiyah.

    Any others?
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,444
    Infrastructure will be a massive job. The harsh reality for the right is that big infrastructure projects need state funding and drive to make them happen. The state can borrow the large amounts of cash far cheaper than private industry and can accommodate the prolonged payback period.

    So what major projects would this new department need to go after?
    1. Housing. Remove all the banked land from greedy housebuilders. Remove the disincentive to councils to allow development on brownfield. Get building on a large scale
    2. Heathrow. Its in the wrong place. But there's no alternative, so get on with it already
    3. High Speed Rail - we need massive capacity increases in the medium term, so get on with it already
    4. Roads - a million and one schemes could be started tomorrow, from resurfacing to pinchpoints to bypasses to major new routes. Get on with it
    5. Energy. Hinkley Point was a bad deal and has gone cold. Build our own. And readress the tarriffs making wind and tidal hard to do - we should be leading the world developing new energy generation
    6. Fibre Broadband. Most people can't get access to it and its up to a private monopoly to provide it. Remove Openreach from the equation and build it ourselves
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710

    So how would you say the past month has gone, Mr Gove? Bit of a curates egg?

    His wife is now regretting not reading the end of Macbeth
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    Er there is...
    There's a Duke of York but no estate (a duchy) to go with it.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,024
    Icarus said:

    Icarus said:

    "The Queen has been pleased to approve the appointment of Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP as Conservative Party Chairman and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster."

    Bloody hell does the Queen really approve the Conservative Party Chairman??

    No, only the Duchy of Lancaster part
    Thats not what the release says.
    Is every Cabinet position not technically approved by HMQ, given that it carries a salary?
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    DisraeliDisraeli Posts: 1,106
    PlatoSaid said:

    Villiers resigns after declining job.

    Good. She's my MP. I've never forgiven here for her housing scandal.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,856
    @Shippersunbound: It took Margaret Thatcher three years to get the cabinet she wanted. It has taken Theresa May three days.

    Not even three days - she's not been PM 24 hours yet....
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    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    1399 and the seizure of the throne by Henry IV. One of the queen's titles. Funnily enough the Yorkists nicked the duchy of Lancaster when they claimed the crown even though they had no right to it (the duchy that is).

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    grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    edited July 2016

    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    Er there is...
    Prince Andrew is the Duke of York.

    However the duchy has no lands or income because of the Wars of the Roses denuding it, so there's no sinecure chancellery attached.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,584
    Jeremy Hunt ‏@Jeremy_Hunt 2m2 minutes ago
    'Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated...'

    This is because he was treated on a week day and not a weekend :-)
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710
    It's official, I'm going on holiday to countries where gambling is illegal and PB is banned.

    This might be the longest two weeks of my life.
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    ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819

    Well scumbag enjoy the fact you were wrong you loathsome tit. Jeremy is staying https://t.co/5fgFJb8w0J

    — Louise Mensch (@LouiseMensch) July 14, 2016

    Someone pissed in Mensch's cornflakes this morning.
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    FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    I saw that and immediately thought OMG - she really doesn't help herself or the Tory cause sometimes.

    The original tweet was an observation more than a dig at Hunt.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,541
    Mark Harper leaves the government
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215
    So where are all the new ladies in the government? Evans is one but she replaces another woman and Morgan and Villiers are both out.
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,848
    edited July 2016

    Hold on, why is there a Duchy of Lancaster, but not a Duchy of York?

    Or is it that Lancastrians need constant adult supervision?

    You mean, why is there a Chancellorship and why is he in government? I think it's because the Duchy of Lancaster is the sovereign's private estate and source of income. So I guess the Chancellor is the equivalent role to a mediaeval steward for the Queen.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JamesAsser: Jeremy Hunt staying at health. More medical reaction. #reshuffle https://t.co/cYypn0BTOS
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,024

    @EyeSpyMP: Sacked @NickyMorgan01 at Westminster tube, pulling suitcase.

    Ouch! Bit of a step down from yesterday's ministerial car. You'd think they'd call her a taxi.

    By the way, does anyone know why the Government Car Service have a preference for German-made cars? From watching yesterday's footage it appears that only the PM has a British-made car. Maybe they're trying to get trade concessions from the Brexit negotiations by pointing out to Merkel how even our ministers use their cars!
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    BigIanBigIan Posts: 198

    It's official, I'm going on holiday to countries where gambling is illegal and PB is banned.

    This might be the longest two weeks of my life.

    Try a VPN.

    http://hola.org/
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    LennonLennon Posts: 1,737

    It's official, I'm going on holiday to countries where gambling is illegal and PB is banned.

    This might be the longest two weeks of my life.

    You know you can get Tor on your mobile right?
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    JonCisBackJonCisBack Posts: 911

    Infrastructure will be a massive job. The harsh reality for the right is that big infrastructure projects need state funding and drive to make them happen. The state can borrow the large amounts of cash far cheaper than private industry and can accommodate the prolonged payback period.

    So what major projects would this new department need to go after?
    1. Housing. Remove all the banked land from greedy housebuilders. Remove the disincentive to councils to allow development on brownfield. Get building on a large scale
    2. Heathrow. Its in the wrong place. But there's no alternative, so get on with it already
    3. High Speed Rail - we need massive capacity increases in the medium term, so get on with it already
    4. Roads - a million and one schemes could be started tomorrow, from resurfacing to pinchpoints to bypasses to major new routes. Get on with it
    5. Energy. Hinkley Point was a bad deal and has gone cold. Build our own. And readress the tarriffs making wind and tidal hard to do - we should be leading the world developing new energy generation
    6. Fibre Broadband. Most people can't get access to it and its up to a private monopoly to provide it. Remove Openreach from the equation and build it ourselves

    Agree with the tone of your post if not all the details, but IANAE. We shoudl just get on wityh some STUFF certainly. HS2 I think is a daft idea but meh

    With record low bond yields we can borrow some cash cheaply now, and infrastructure cash is largely spent on our own economy anyway so is reasonably "Keynesian" (Did I mention IANAE?)

    I would like to see that tidal barrier thing across the Severn. Sod the seabirds they can fly away surely...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710

    Mark Harper leaves the government

    Sad
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Sandpit said:

    By the way, does anyone know why the Government Car Service have a preference for German-made cars? From watching yesterday's footage it appears that only the PM has a British-made car. Maybe they're trying to get trade concessions from the Brexit negotiations by pointing out to Merkel how even our ministers use their cars!

    I assume it's a "multi-source" policy, for the same reason police don't all use the same cars.

    If there is a recall, they don't all go out of service at the same time.

    I think Stephen Crabb got into a Toyota BTW.

    Fire up the mid-priced saloons !
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    Mark Harper leaves the government

    No room in the Govt for people that turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants?
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 50,024

    It's official, I'm going on holiday to countries where gambling is illegal and PB is banned.

    This might be the longest two weeks of my life.

    You're going to Mecca?
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    They should have won the referendum if they wanted continuity.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Mark Harper leaves the government

    Sad
    Sacked or resigned?
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,548
    The Duchy of Lancaster is the Queen's second title and its holder is therefore a royal official. However, it now administers the Queen's private wealth and the title has no official duties as a result.

    The Duke of York is a private member of the Royal family and his estate is therefore not a Crown matter. He has no estates because no Duke of York has inherited the title since 1461 and its estates have been merged into the Duchy of Lancaster as a result.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    edited July 2016
    JackW said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Greg Callus
    For completeness, the Lord High Steward, Lord High Treasurer and Lord High Constable are either held in commission or for coronations only

    The Keeper of the Privy Seal of Scotland is vacant ....

    I await a call .... and have done so since that last incumbent, the Marquess of Breadalbane, died in 1922 .... :smile:
    I don't think May uses carrier pigeons....... ;)
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