All countries politicians wanted as normal as possible Christmas. But their lockdowns varied widely in timings and type, even in UK Wales were coming out of lockdown as England entered one. But the attempt to do it, the shopping, the moving around, was the wrong call in the covid winter.
When UK government placed the blame for their U turn on the mutant virus spreading from the south east across the Nation, should they have anticipated and planned for the rest of the worlds reaction in sealing us off as pariah state?
Or, it is actually a real new strain and the reactions are justified?
The countries putting a ban on us are caveating it with “our scientists aren’t as sure as the British government are that the new strain is as bad as that, but we can’t take the chance... blockade!”
My point is, that’s also what the British scientists and politicians said. Identically. For internal consumption. It was blown up into this crisis by over the top reporting of the British media.
new strain is virulent or not, it doesn’t matter to the question, should the UK government have anticipated the international reaction of governments also stamped down sooner on the over blown media reporting of their announcement?
You make it sound as though there is a serious doubt whether or not it is more virulent. The minutes suggest they are reasonably confident it is. So confident that some have gone on the record to say so. As for European governments not believing it, I think that's just shit stirring.
I just find it astonishing nobody appears to have foreseen the possibility of this happening. Especially as it has been a fundamental risk throughout of Brexit that we would have far less legal protection viz potential closure of the border.
Not really. Multiple European countries (including the UK) exercised the same emergency powers to close the border with Denmark earlier this year. Countries are justifiably doing so, my main issue is that they're not doing it properly and allowing the borders to the Netherlands, Denmark and Germany stay open where this is also definitely present. Mealy mouthed words like "not found it yet" from Germany aren't exactly reassuring given that they won't have been looking for it until this morning.
So in defence of their idiotic policy that schools must be kept open no matter what the public health risk, they are proposing giving teenagers a vaccine which is not supposed to be given to teenagers because it hasn't been tested on them.
Sorry but these guys have gone be fucking morons to dangerous fucking morons.
And for clarity, I will be taking the vaccine the minute I am able and urge everyone in groups it has been tested on to do the same.
Can I briefly play Devil’s Advocate for Scott? NERVTAG are most certainly not lying and they have come up with a solid paper based on the evidence available - but what the Government do with the findings therein is out of their hands. I post below a link to the minutes of their meeting on Thursday which comes up with very few definitive answers. The finding that NERVTAG have “moderate” confidence that the new variant demonstrates a substantial increase in transmissibility is not the “definitive proof” some on here portray it as. That conclusion is understandable as it was reached as a result of “Studies of correlation between R-values and detection of the variant: which suggest an absolute increase in the R-value of between 0.39 to 0.93.” I’m no scientist but I see the truism that a correlation does not mean causation all the time. It often does I admit.
The decision last night, made for whatever reason, was belatedly the right one, but I don’t think a pile on on Scott over reposting that Tweet is justified.
The scientists are not Tories. Most of the ones I know on SAGE vote Labour or Lib Dem. They are trying to help the country.
If the scientists felt that Boris was misrepresenting the data, they would say so. They would have everything to lose if they stood by, silent, while their data was misused.
If scientists on SAGE or on NERVTAG saw their data being misrepresented or misused for political purposes, they would be screaming to the heavens, loud and clear.
They are not saying so.
For this conspiracy to be true, the scientists would have to be in on it. But, there is no way scientist would do this, because they know they would be found out very quickly by others and their career and reputation would be irreparably damaged.
Scott (who has no scientific training) retweeted an irresponsible claim by a single Belgian scientist. If Donald Trump tweeted some conspiracy theory rubbish, you would call him out.
We're calling Scott out. He is encouraging the dispersal of fake news. He is propagating conspiracy theories. He is damaging the reputation of Government scientists --- who are not the same as the Government.
This needed saying
The eadric construct posts a ton of lurid conspiracy theories from the alt-right twittersphere that are far more pernicious than this.
I don't really get the importance of the European Parliament in all this, since doesn't any deal ultimately have to be ratified by all member states internally?
And the answer is that the UK establishment is filled by globalist sociopaths and foreign holiday obsessives.
No I asked it months ago.
Plenty from here justified their foreign holidays during the summer. As I said lockdown is sensible for other people that can't be trusted but its alright for me to bend rules because I will be sensible is the common attitude,
Its why I treat polls saying 80% or whatever support lockdown with contempt. You would get similar polls for all that test positive to isolate however as we saw when push came to shove only 20% actually did.
I didn't go anywhere, not everyone did.
I wasn't pointing at you, I was more pointing out that on here people believe they are intelligent and not lacking in common sense yet still we had plenty not using intelligence and common sense and going on foreign holidays because for some magical hand wavey bollocks they wouldnt catch the pox. Plenty on here have already booked their march ski holidays
Apologies, I didn't mean to make it seem like I was having a go at you.
Anyone who went on holidays abroad this year is a twat quite frankly.
If you go to a country that has the same or less risk for covid, and follow social distancing guidelines, you should be no more likely to bring it back to the UK than catch it here. Less so, in fact.
I went to the Netherlands at the end of July and did just that
I can only assume that most people behave like twats when they are on holiday.
Anyway, on a lighter note, I'm not watching it (haven't for years) but is anyone watching SPOTY who can tell us how the BBC are managing the Tyson Fury nomination? Given that he told them in no uncertain terms he had no interest in it, and, inexplicably, they refused to then take him off the shortlist?
They've featured him but said that he does not want any votes.
Definitely a lot of overcompensation and finger pointing from the Netherlands where it's very obvious that the same mutation is present and causing as serious an outbreak. I'm guessing they think if they point the finger at the UK the rest of Europe will ignore them. It might just work, but it will be a disaster because it gives the mutant strain multiple opportunities to spread across the whole continent and then everyone is fucked.
The UK has at least got a very strong vaccine portfolio and could see the back of this by the middle of April. Not sure how European countries will handle this given the weak vaccine portfolio.
Instead of pointing fingers they need to shut down all borders in Europe for air, road and sea travel and start investing in vaccine production.
“ and causing as serious an outbreak. “. You got evidence supporting that statement?
You are pushing a narrative that the surge everywhere is down to mutant virus more than any other reason. And you are pushing it without evidence. And that narrative is causing alarm and disaster.
I would expect the child in that photograph to be able to understand that "Cannabis is easy enough to grow" is not an answer to a shortage of cannabis-based pharmaceuticals (not the pharmaceuticals mentioned in your link) kicking in in less than two weeks. What was that about people not using intelligence and common sense?
The border was going to slow to a stop in 10 days. This French announcement just pulls that forward. I'm sure our economy can manage just fine with the shutdown of our main supply route, just as the no deal enthusiasts wanted
But this is not a one way issue.
French, Italian, Spanish and others freight will be stuck in France and Irish transport to France through Holyhead will be stopped in Ireland
And? What makes you think it was ever a one-way issue. The vast queues of trucks that will be parked in Kent will be queuing for the FRENCH border. We have told the EU we want a hard border. That means us stopping them and vice versa. As you can't actually operate a hard border that processes 10k trucks a day in each direction, this was always going to happen. As I've been saying for ages and being told "no it wont" by people who haven't a clue
Definitely a lot of overcompensation and finger pointing from the Netherlands where it's very obvious that the same mutation is present and causing as serious an outbreak. I'm guessing they think if they point the finger at the UK the rest of Europe will ignore them. It might just work, but it will be a disaster because it gives the mutant strain multiple opportunities to spread across the whole continent and then everyone is fucked.
The UK has at least got a very strong vaccine portfolio and could see the back of this by the middle of April. Not sure how European countries will handle this given the weak vaccine portfolio.
Instead of pointing fingers they need to shut down all borders in Europe for air, road and sea travel and start investing in vaccine production.
Not everyone wants to be a police target. Especially if they are known to have children with the relevant condition. And have jobs which they would lose with a criminal record.
.. "The next Great Conjunction on December 21, 2020 kicks off a new cycle. Accordingly, some astrologers are referring to this cosmic event as "the Great Mutation", because it marks the official change after 200 years from earth to air." ..
Definitely a lot of overcompensation and finger pointing from the Netherlands where it's very obvious that the same mutation is present and causing as serious an outbreak. I'm guessing they think if they point the finger at the UK the rest of Europe will ignore them. It might just work, but it will be a disaster because it gives the mutant strain multiple opportunities to spread across the whole continent and then everyone is fucked.
The UK has at least got a very strong vaccine portfolio and could see the back of this by the middle of April. Not sure how European countries will handle this given the weak vaccine portfolio.
Instead of pointing fingers they need to shut down all borders in Europe for air, road and sea travel and start investing in vaccine production.
Are they painting us as the Wuhan on this one?
I think so, definitely repeating the mistakes of January to March.
Can I briefly play Devil’s Advocate for Scott? NERVTAG are most certainly not lying and they have come up with a solid paper based on the evidence available - but what the Government do with the findings therein is out of their hands. I post below a link to the minutes of their meeting on Thursday which comes up with very few definitive answers. The finding that NERVTAG have “moderate” confidence that the new variant demonstrates a substantial increase in transmissibility is not the “definitive proof” some on here portray it as. That conclusion is understandable as it was reached as a result of “Studies of correlation between R-values and detection of the variant: which suggest an absolute increase in the R-value of between 0.39 to 0.93.” I’m no scientist but I see the truism that a correlation does not mean causation all the time. It often does I admit.
The decision last night, made for whatever reason, was belatedly the right one, but I don’t think a pile on on Scott over reposting that Tweet is justified.
The scientists are not Tories. Most of the ones I know on SAGE vote Labour or Lib Dem. They are trying to help the country.
If the scientists felt that Boris was misrepresenting the data, they would say so. They would have everything to lose if they stood by, silent, while their data was misused.
If scientists on SAGE or on NERVTAG saw their data being misrepresented or misused for political purposes, they would be screaming to the heavens, loud and clear.
They are not saying so.
For this conspiracy to be true, the scientists would have to be in on it. But, there is no way scientist would do this, because they know they would be found out very quickly by others and their career and reputation would be irreparably damaged.
Scott (who has no scientific training) retweeted an irresponsible claim by a single Belgian scientist. If Donald Trump tweeted some conspiracy theory rubbish, you would call him out.
We're calling Scott out. He is encouraging the dispersal of fake news. He is propagating conspiracy theories. He is damaging the reputation of Government scientists --- who are not the same as the Government.
This needed saying
The eadric construct posts a ton of lurid conspiracy theories from the alt-right twittersphere that are far more pernicious than this.
But this isn't a conspiracy theory. The new strain is both as real as the scientists say it is, and a jolly handy figleaf for Johnson.
I would expect the child in that photograph to be able to understand that "Cannabis is easy enough to grow" is not an answer to a shortage of cannabis-based pharmaceuticals (not the pharmaceuticals mentioned in your link) kicking in in less than two weeks. What was that about people not using intelligence and common sense?
Did you read the article I posted? quote Cannabis is also being grown legally in the UK for another medicine, Epidiolex. It's currently being reviewed for the treatment of two rare forms of uncontrollable epilepsy
Besides which if the cannabis is being grown it can be used to make other medicines as well even if we don't currently but sounds to me like we already make the medicine for epileptics. Before commenting on my common sense and intelligence you might consider learning to read the article
Will be interesting to see exactly how he wants to screw over England.
I imagine he will announce devomax for Holyrood and Scotland under a future Labour led government and regional assemblies for England
Devomax for English regions too? And will we get to choose our regions? England will continue to effectively be a directly-governed territory of the UK.
Quite. We discussed all that back in 2013-14 and conclujded, amicably, thjat it just isn't a runner without persisting massive anomalies.
I don't really get the importance of the European Parliament in all this, since doesn't any deal ultimately have to be ratified by all member states internally?
Definitely a lot of overcompensation and finger pointing from the Netherlands where it's very obvious that the same mutation is present and causing as serious an outbreak. I'm guessing they think if they point the finger at the UK the rest of Europe will ignore them. It might just work, but it will be a disaster because it gives the mutant strain multiple opportunities to spread across the whole continent and then everyone is fucked.
The UK has at least got a very strong vaccine portfolio and could see the back of this by the middle of April. Not sure how European countries will handle this given the weak vaccine portfolio.
Instead of pointing fingers they need to shut down all borders in Europe for air, road and sea travel and start investing in vaccine production.
“ and causing as serious an outbreak. “. You got evidence supporting that statement?
You are pushing a narrative that the surge everywhere is down to mutant virus more than any other reason. And you are pushing it without evidence. And that narrative is causing alarm and disaster.
Or, the scientists aren't lying and Europrean countries are taking fair precautions against more of the new strain getting in knowing that this is a huge travel period for young people in London travelling home to their countries. Your narrative of the scientists making this up is complete rubbish.
I don't really get the importance of the European Parliament in all this, since doesn't any deal ultimately have to be ratified by all member states internally?
And Barnier still seems to be talking and not giving a ff about the EU parliament. You would think he should know...
Not everyone wants to be a police target. Especially if they are known to have children with the relevant condition. And have jobs which they would lose with a criminal record.
Did you read the article, the uk is one of the biggest growers and exporters of medicinal cannabis?
Anyway, on a lighter note, I'm not watching it (haven't for years) but is anyone watching SPOTY who can tell us how the BBC are managing the Tyson Fury nomination? Given that he told them in no uncertain terms he had no interest in it, and, inexplicably, they refused to then take him off the shortlist?
They've featured him but said that he does not want any votes.
There's been a massive plunge on (Liverpool footballer) Henderson. @TheScreamingEagles must be hammering the redial button. Henderson is now below 3 on Betfair. He was over 100 a few days ago.
I would expect the child in that photograph to be able to understand that "Cannabis is easy enough to grow" is not an answer to a shortage of cannabis-based pharmaceuticals (not the pharmaceuticals mentioned in your link) kicking in in less than two weeks. What was that about people not using intelligence and common sense?
Did you read the article I posted? quote Cannabis is also being grown legally in the UK for another medicine, Epidiolex. It's currently being reviewed for the treatment of two rare forms of uncontrollable epilepsy
Besides which if the cannabis is being grown it can be used to make other medicines as well even if we don't currently but sounds to me like we already make the medicine for epileptics. Before commenting on my common sense and intelligence you might consider learning to read the article
I have read the article. These people are going to run out of a completely different medicine in ten days time. You sound as intelligent and helpful as a barman being asked for a whisky and replying "barley is easy enough to grow, and we brew lots of beer over here."
Doesn't it need a little pharmaceutical processing before giving it to kids?!
From the noise I've been putting up with, it's getting quite a lot of processing. Complaints to the landlord have resulted in comparative quiet, for now. I've dobbed him in to the local plod, let's see how seriously they take it.
Anyway, on a lighter note, I'm not watching it (haven't for years) but is anyone watching SPOTY who can tell us how the BBC are managing the Tyson Fury nomination? Given that he told them in no uncertain terms he had no interest in it, and, inexplicably, they refused to then take him off the shortlist?
They've featured him but said that he does not want any votes.
There's been a massive plunge on (Liverpool footballer) Henderson. @TheScreamingEagles must be hammering the redial button. Henderson is now below 3 on Betfair. He was over 100 a few days ago.
Turned up in the studio looking smart. Good interview. Could be.
Will be interesting to see exactly how he wants to screw over England.
I imagine he will announce devomax for Holyrood and Scotland under a future Labour led government and regional assemblies for England
Devomax for English regions too? And will we get to choose our regions? England will continue to effectively be a directly-governed territory of the UK.
I expect Starmer would impose regional assemblies on England whether England wanted them or not if he became PM, given England would likely have voted against him anyway and it would be Scottish and Welsh MPs who get him into No 10.
So you would see regional assemblies for the South East, South West, the East, the East Midlands, the West Midlands, Yorkshire and Humber, the North East and the North West to join the London Assembly most likely with county and district councils abolished too and merged into unitary councils as the next tier down
Yup. A lot of what you expected to eat for Christmas dinner on Friday isn't in the country and isn't coming. Suggest people go out and buy whatever fresh stuff they need the fuck yesterday. Whilst they still can.
Definitely a lot of overcompensation and finger pointing from the Netherlands where it's very obvious that the same mutation is present and causing as serious an outbreak. I'm guessing they think if they point the finger at the UK the rest of Europe will ignore them. It might just work, but it will be a disaster because it gives the mutant strain multiple opportunities to spread across the whole continent and then everyone is fucked.
The UK has at least got a very strong vaccine portfolio and could see the back of this by the middle of April. Not sure how European countries will handle this given the weak vaccine portfolio.
Instead of pointing fingers they need to shut down all borders in Europe for air, road and sea travel and start investing in vaccine production.
“ and causing as serious an outbreak. “. You got evidence supporting that statement?
You are pushing a narrative that the surge everywhere is down to mutant virus more than any other reason. And you are pushing it without evidence. And that narrative is causing alarm and disaster.
Or, the scientists aren't lying and Europrean countries are taking fair precautions against more of the new strain getting in knowing that this is a huge travel period for young people in London travelling home to their countries. Your narrative of the scientists making this up is complete rubbish.
That’s not my narrative. I didn’t say scientists made it up.
I am saying scientists made a cautious and caveated announcement. My narrative is that it’s YOU and the media making things up, bigging it up.
Is that clear now?
Or are you going to wait for British government to clamp down on your fictions and causes of your ramping in the morning, before you start to behave yourself?
I would expect the child in that photograph to be able to understand that "Cannabis is easy enough to grow" is not an answer to a shortage of cannabis-based pharmaceuticals (not the pharmaceuticals mentioned in your link) kicking in in less than two weeks. What was that about people not using intelligence and common sense?
Did you read the article I posted? quote Cannabis is also being grown legally in the UK for another medicine, Epidiolex. It's currently being reviewed for the treatment of two rare forms of uncontrollable epilepsy
Besides which if the cannabis is being grown it can be used to make other medicines as well even if we don't currently but sounds to me like we already make the medicine for epileptics. Before commenting on my common sense and intelligence you might consider learning to read the article
I have read the article. These people are going to run out of a completely different medicine in ten days time. You sound as intelligent and helpful as a barman being asked for a whisky and replying "barley is easy enough to grow, and we brew lots of beer over here."
Then we merely repurpose some of the cannabis crop we grow to make that instead its not rocket science. Now if the article I linked is correct seems more likely the eu is not going to have the raw medicinal cannabis they need to manufacture their drugs if we are one of the major exporters. Unless of course you think we will be able to export cannabis but not import the drugs made by it. In which case I have to ask why the hell we would allow that to happen.
I suspect the tweet is just normal journalistic un fact checked bollocks frankly as we already as the article says make anti epilepsy medications from cannabis, nor would it surprise me to find epidolex is merely a uk brand name for exactly the same drug as they are already taking
If the new strain does end being just as debilitating, but much more easily spread, then it's a problem for the whole world. London is the world's most connected city, surely - it has 180 million unique passengers a year by air, and another 11 million travelling in by Eurostar. New Zealand only has one flight and it's empty.
Yup. A lot of what you expected to eat for Christmas dinner on Friday isn't in the country and isn't coming. Suggest people go out and buy whatever fresh stuff they need the fuck yesterday. Whilst they still can.
Are we headed for an Australian Style Christmas Dinner?
If the new strain does end being just as debilitating, but much more easily spread, then it's a problem for the whole world. London is the world's most connected city, surely - it has 180 million unique passengers a year by air, and another 11 million travelling in by Eurostar. New Zealand only has one flight and it's empty.
(New York is next closest with 120 million, not even close.)
Can I briefly play Devil’s Advocate for Scott? NERVTAG are most certainly not lying and they have come up with a solid paper based on the evidence available - but what the Government do with the findings therein is out of their hands. I post below a link to the minutes of their meeting on Thursday which comes up with very few definitive answers. The finding that NERVTAG have “moderate” confidence that the new variant demonstrates a substantial increase in transmissibility is not the “definitive proof” some on here portray it as. That conclusion is understandable as it was reached as a result of “Studies of correlation between R-values and detection of the variant: which suggest an absolute increase in the R-value of between 0.39 to 0.93.” I’m no scientist but I see the truism that a correlation does not mean causation all the time. It often does I admit.
The decision last night, made for whatever reason, was belatedly the right one, but I don’t think a pile on on Scott over reposting that Tweet is justified.
The scientists are not Tories. Most of the ones I know on SAGE vote Labour or Lib Dem. They are trying to help the country.
If the scientists felt that Boris was misrepresenting the data, they would say so. They would have everything to lose if they stood by, silent, while their data was misused.
If scientists on SAGE or on NERVTAG saw their data being misrepresented or misused for political purposes, they would be screaming to the heavens, loud and clear.
They are not saying so.
For this conspiracy to be true, the scientists would have to be in on it. But, there is no way scientist would do this, because they know they would be found out very quickly by others and their career and reputation would be irreparably damaged.
Scott (who has no scientific training) retweeted an irresponsible claim by a single Belgian scientist. If Donald Trump tweeted some conspiracy theory rubbish, you would call him out.
We're calling Scott out. He is encouraging the dispersal of fake news. He is propagating conspiracy theories. He is damaging the reputation of Government scientists --- who are not the same as the Government.
This needed saying
The eadric construct posts a ton of lurid conspiracy theories from the alt-right twittersphere that are far more pernicious than this.
But this isn't a conspiracy theory. The new strain is both as real as the scientists say it is, and a jolly handy figleaf for Johnson.
Definitely a lot of overcompensation and finger pointing from the Netherlands where it's very obvious that the same mutation is present and causing as serious an outbreak. I'm guessing they think if they point the finger at the UK the rest of Europe will ignore them. It might just work, but it will be a disaster because it gives the mutant strain multiple opportunities to spread across the whole continent and then everyone is fucked.
The UK has at least got a very strong vaccine portfolio and could see the back of this by the middle of April. Not sure how European countries will handle this given the weak vaccine portfolio.
Instead of pointing fingers they need to shut down all borders in Europe for air, road and sea travel and start investing in vaccine production.
“ and causing as serious an outbreak. “. You got evidence supporting that statement?
You are pushing a narrative that the surge everywhere is down to mutant virus more than any other reason. And you are pushing it without evidence. And that narrative is causing alarm and disaster.
Or, the scientists aren't lying and Europrean countries are taking fair precautions against more of the new strain getting in knowing that this is a huge travel period for young people in London travelling home to their countries. Your narrative of the scientists making this up is complete rubbish.
That’s not my narrative. I didn’t say scientists made it up.
I am saying scientists made a cautious and caveated announcement. My narrative is that it’s YOU and the media making things up, bigging it up.
Is that clear now?
Or are you going to wait for British government to clamp down on your fictions and causes of your ramping in the morning, before you start to behave yourself?
No, your narrative is that they've made it up and it's actually just because of Christmas shoppers on Oxford Street or something like that but the government are using this mutation to save face.
Give it up, this is serious and borders need to close everywhere or we repeat the original mistakes of January.
Will be interesting to see exactly how he wants to screw over England.
I imagine he will announce devomax for Holyrood and Scotland under a future Labour led government and regional assemblies for England
Devomax for English regions too? And will we get to choose our regions? England will continue to effectively be a directly-governed territory of the UK.
I expect Starmer would impose regional assemblies on England whether England wanted them or not if he became PM, given England would likely have voted against him anyway and it would be Scottish and Welsh MPs who get him into No 10.
So you would see regional assemblies for the South East, South West, the East, the East Midlands, the West Midlands, Yorkshire and Humber, the North East and the North West to join the London Assembly most likely with county and district councils abolished too and merged into unitary councils as the next tier down
Yup. A lot of what you expected to eat for Christmas dinner on Friday isn't in the country and isn't coming. Suggest people go out and buy whatever fresh stuff they need the fuck yesterday. Whilst they still can.
Are we headed for an Australian Style Christmas Dinner?
By sheer chance I have a Sainsbury's delivery due tomorrow afternoon.
I would expect the child in that photograph to be able to understand that "Cannabis is easy enough to grow" is not an answer to a shortage of cannabis-based pharmaceuticals (not the pharmaceuticals mentioned in your link) kicking in in less than two weeks. What was that about people not using intelligence and common sense?
Did you read the article I posted? quote Cannabis is also being grown legally in the UK for another medicine, Epidiolex. It's currently being reviewed for the treatment of two rare forms of uncontrollable epilepsy
Besides which if the cannabis is being grown it can be used to make other medicines as well even if we don't currently but sounds to me like we already make the medicine for epileptics. Before commenting on my common sense and intelligence you might consider learning to read the article
I have read the article. These people are going to run out of a completely different medicine in ten days time. You sound as intelligent and helpful as a barman being asked for a whisky and replying "barley is easy enough to grow, and we brew lots of beer over here."
Then we merely repurpose some of the cannabis crop we grow to make that instead its not rocket science. Now if the article I linked is correct seems more likely the eu is not going to have the raw medicinal cannabis they need to manufacture their drugs if we are one of the major exporters. Unless of course you think we will be able to export cannabis but not import the drugs made by it. In which case I have to ask why the hell we would allow that to happen.
I suspect the tweet is just normal journalistic un fact checked bollocks frankly as we already as the article says make anti epilepsy medications from cannabis, nor would it surprise me to find epidolex is merely a uk brand name for exactly the same drug as they are already taking
TEN DAYS.
It wouldn't surprise me if beer is just another name for whisky. Same ingredients, makes you drunk, obvious conclusion.
Ah good old christian values.....burning heretics, conversion by the sword, torturing people till they confess to being in league with santa, praying the gay away, sexual repression, mysogyny.....how we miss those good old values
Anyway, on a lighter note, I'm not watching it (haven't for years) but is anyone watching SPOTY who can tell us how the BBC are managing the Tyson Fury nomination? Given that he told them in no uncertain terms he had no interest in it, and, inexplicably, they refused to then take him off the shortlist?
They've featured him but said that he does not want any votes.
There's been a massive plunge on (Liverpool footballer) Henderson. @TheScreamingEagles must be hammering the redial button. Henderson is now below 3 on Betfair. He was over 100 a few days ago.
Turned up in the studio looking smart. Good interview. Could be.
Liverpool team of the year. Betfair has suspended betting on the main event.
I would expect the child in that photograph to be able to understand that "Cannabis is easy enough to grow" is not an answer to a shortage of cannabis-based pharmaceuticals (not the pharmaceuticals mentioned in your link) kicking in in less than two weeks. What was that about people not using intelligence and common sense?
Did you read the article I posted? quote Cannabis is also being grown legally in the UK for another medicine, Epidiolex. It's currently being reviewed for the treatment of two rare forms of uncontrollable epilepsy
Besides which if the cannabis is being grown it can be used to make other medicines as well even if we don't currently but sounds to me like we already make the medicine for epileptics. Before commenting on my common sense and intelligence you might consider learning to read the article
I have read the article. These people are going to run out of a completely different medicine in ten days time. You sound as intelligent and helpful as a barman being asked for a whisky and replying "barley is easy enough to grow, and we brew lots of beer over here."
Then we merely repurpose some of the cannabis crop we grow to make that instead its not rocket science. Now if the article I linked is correct seems more likely the eu is not going to have the raw medicinal cannabis they need to manufacture their drugs if we are one of the major exporters. Unless of course you think we will be able to export cannabis but not import the drugs made by it. In which case I have to ask why the hell we would allow that to happen.
I suspect the tweet is just normal journalistic un fact checked bollocks frankly as we already as the article says make anti epilepsy medications from cannabis, nor would it surprise me to find epidolex is merely a uk brand name for exactly the same drug as they are already taking
TEN DAYS.
It wouldn't surprise me if beer is just another name for whisky. Same ingredients, makes you drunk, obvious conclusion.
What is the name of this medication then? I followed the original tweet didnt find any medication named. You are so sure its a different one then no trouble for you to name it. Then I can simply look it up and check if its the same chemically
Yup. A lot of what you expected to eat for Christmas dinner on Friday isn't in the country and isn't coming. Suggest people go out and buy whatever fresh stuff they need the fuck yesterday. Whilst they still can.
Are we headed for an Australian Style Christmas Dinner?
I had a traditional Christmas dinner in New Zealand though unusual to be in shorts and t shirt
Anyway, on a lighter note, I'm not watching it (haven't for years) but is anyone watching SPOTY who can tell us how the BBC are managing the Tyson Fury nomination? Given that he told them in no uncertain terms he had no interest in it, and, inexplicably, they refused to then take him off the shortlist?
They've featured him but said that he does not want any votes.
There's been a massive plunge on (Liverpool footballer) Henderson. @TheScreamingEagles must be hammering the redial button. Henderson is now below 3 on Betfair. He was over 100 a few days ago.
Turned up in the studio looking smart. Good interview. Could be.
Liverpool team of the year. Betfair has suspended betting on the main event.
Klopp coach of the year. Can Hendo make it a clean sweep?
Ah good old christian values.....burning heretics, conversion by the sword, torturing people till they confess to being in league with santa, praying the gay away, sexual repression, mysogyny.....how we miss those good old values
That's pre-enlightenment Christian values ; not the Unitarians, Quakers or Christian Socialists. Pageanism has a rather complex history too.
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https://twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1340742255221624833?s=19
https://twitter.com/Torcuil/status/1340767936550723584
(I think they should stay at home. My vice chancellor might think otherwise.)
--AS
Sorry but these guys have gone be fucking morons to dangerous fucking morons.
And for clarity, I will be taking the vaccine the minute I am able and urge everyone in groups it has been tested on to do the same.
I went to the Netherlands at the end of July and did just that
I can only assume that most people behave like twats when they are on holiday.
Remainiac No. 1...
You are pushing a narrative that the surge everywhere is down to mutant virus more than any other reason. And you are pushing it without evidence. And that narrative is causing alarm and disaster.
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Cannabis is also being grown legally in the UK for another medicine, Epidiolex. It's currently being reviewed for the treatment of two rare forms of uncontrollable epilepsy
Besides which if the cannabis is being grown it can be used to make other medicines as well even if we don't currently but sounds to me like we already make the medicine for epileptics. Before commenting on my common sense and intelligence you might consider learning to read the article
We should be particularly helpful if it’s the latter.
Anyone have a giant Wicker Man hanging about?
But if there is, I'm as wrong as wrong can be.
https://twitter.com/BBCSimonJack/status/1340752328769626112
So you would see regional assemblies for the South East, South West, the East, the East Midlands, the West Midlands, Yorkshire and Humber, the North East and the North West to join the London Assembly most likely with county and district councils abolished too and merged into unitary councils as the next tier down
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/05/military-planes-to-fly-vaccines-in-to-britain-to-avoid-ports-hit-by-brexit
I am saying scientists made a cautious and caveated announcement. My narrative is that it’s YOU and the media making things up, bigging it up.
Is that clear now?
Or are you going to wait for British government to clamp down on your fictions and causes of your ramping in the morning, before you start to behave yourself?
I suspect the tweet is just normal journalistic un fact checked bollocks frankly as we already as the article says make anti epilepsy medications from cannabis, nor would it surprise me to find epidolex is merely a uk brand name for exactly the same drug as they are already taking
God help us
Give it up, this is serious and borders need to close everywhere or we repeat the original mistakes of January.
More likely those with ambition see that this is BoZo's moment of maximum crisis
Will there be any fresh veg in it I wonder?
It wouldn't surprise me if beer is just another name for whisky. Same ingredients, makes you drunk, obvious conclusion.
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1340752654675394560
Evidence of increased transmissibility was provided to NERVTAG and ministers on December 18.