Simply cannot ask constructive questions but rather looking for a gotcha moment
The media are rapidly becoming the bad guys in this
They need to switch out the usual Lobby mob with journos of medical or scientific backgrounds.
Yes that was also a problem with the MMR fiasco. The journalists who knew what they were talking about were kept away from the politicians.
Classic modern snobbery - the "technical" journalists were judged to be "not up to the big game" because they lacked "breadth, emotional intelligence"*
*code for your guilt of knowing stuff rather than just talking about feelings and whatever pops into your head as a good idea, all the time.
4 passengers dead on Holland America cruise ship Zaandam - circa 150 have flu like symptoms and 2 people have tested positive - no one has been able to leave ship since March 14
I think the cruise industry will simply collapse after this. Horrific.
Maybe Airships will come back...
I doubt it will be the end of the cruise industry. I do wonder if the very long journeys (30 days plus) will be as popular. The Zaandam passengers have been trapped on the ship for two weeks, mostly confined to cabins.
I think the 7-14 day trips will be fine - short duration, not going too far, plenty of stops.
It's not - I can spot Ikea stuff from a distance and that is custom built (check the short but long shelf behind Rishi's shoulder).
And I think we have 15 Billy bookcases in the house (it used to be more but I binned a few a while back)..
Don't think it's custom built. Looks like there's a second identical one at an angle in the corner. Some of the small cubbys appear to be unusable because of the way it's been pushed behind the first one.
Ah -- she would have made a good Only Connect time question for the quiz: Tory MPs who published fiction: Nadine, former pb-er Louise Bagshawe, Boris, and, erm, the fourth one. There must be a fourth. Jacob Rees-Mogg wrote a popular history book that was panned by the critics (and it is quite dull imo). OK scrap the question unless there is or was a fourth fiction author.
Michael Green?
Green was a fictitious author rather than an author of fiction iirc. @TheScreamingEagles reminds us Iain Duncan Smith wrote a thriller.
Are you suggesting his get rich schemes work (for anyone bar the person selling the books)? Perhaps the UK economy is about to boom with all of us following his sage advice? Fiction imo.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
All about the contents not the surrounding. Not a lot of wasted space, organised but with some additional ones piled around so it looks used not just neatly ordered and left alone.
I ran out of space for my books at home so had to refurbish a new office to store them
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
If my doctor ever suggests a fecal transplant I will change doctors
4 passengers dead on Holland America cruise ship Zaandam - circa 150 have flu like symptoms and 2 people have tested positive - no one has been able to leave ship since March 14
I think the cruise industry will simply collapse after this. Horrific.
Maybe Airships will come back...
I doubt it will be the end of the cruise industry. I do wonder if the very long journeys (30 days plus) will be as popular. The Zaandam passengers have been trapped on the ship for two weeks, mostly confined to cabins.
I think the 7-14 day trips will be fine - short duration, not going too far, plenty of stops.
I doubt cruising will resume until late 2020, and most probably 2021. I would hope for, and expect, some changes, such as better screening of passengers both on booking and on boarding, restrictions on taking people already seriously ill, improved medical staffing and facilities on board, air conditioning filtration, staff training, improved cleaning and hygiene, as examples of the top of my head. If they can prove it is safe, there will remain a market for it.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
The result? Congratulations, you've just contracted coronavrius.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
crapsules are definitely a thing for the treatment of GI infections (and, I think, HAI such as c.difficile)
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? ... What do you think?
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
If my doctor ever suggests a fecal transplant I will change doctors
I appreciate it sounds horrid, but it's not like you're storing your best tablecloths up there is it?
Although the active cases grew at the slowest rate yet (7.4% per day), the number of new cases hasn't really come down much yet. At 5,774 they are the fourth highest on record.
Now, yes, this is the context of a really high testing number (again over 30,000), so it's not all bad news.
But I would have expected the new cases number to be around the 4,000 number, and it's well above that.
The flattening looks like a trend but still a long way to go - this is unlikely to be over anytime soon.
On Monday Italy will be three weeks in lockdown. If the cases don't reduce dramtically next week does a lockdown work?
I think the evidence from China suggests it does. There is really no alternative beyond allowing many more to die.
I agree the China evidence does, but today over 4000 new cases, that is an incredible amout when everyone has been in lockdown for 17 days.
As mentioned several times, the latency period is long - most of Italy has been in lockdown for 2.5 weeks - so we have to be a little more patient to see if it is working.
PS Without the lockdown cases would be rising exponentially now, so it is clearly having an effect.
Moreover, to give a hint that things are getting better, in Lombardy they are expanding the people they are going to test and the governor of the region (who has been very pessimistic throughout) has said that he thinks the number of new cases is starting to fall.
I don't want to be pedantic, but we are already in an exponential growth situation. If you plot a graph of Log(case numbers) against time you will get a rising straight line. That is the definition of exponential.
The UK graphs aren't quite following a straight line against a logarithmic y axis - there is a small reduction in the gradient.
Once again the blockquotes have gone haywire. I did not write the above!
Cases: There is a very small kink around Mar 21 but overall from march 4th that line is about as straight as you get with real data. Deaths: The log curve since March 14th is definately curving down. On the linear y-axis the curve is fairly linear since that date, although the change in reporting times 2 days ago is clearly visible, and makes it harder to spot any curvature. I hope the UK manages to keep this curve linear in the next two weeks, that will be really really good news.
Blockquotes: there is a bug in the latest release of Vanilla, - sometimes when you do a quote it doubles up on one of the close blockquotes - if you examine the quote, you’ll find two close blockquotes between two adjacent posts, and need to delete one of them. If you don’t spot it before posting you can edit and delete the surplus close blockquote within six minutes.
I have seen some people try to solve the problem by adding an extra close blockquote - this won’t work, as there is one too many already.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
The result? Congratulations, you've just contracted coronavrius.
Possibly (though not in the case of the second, the worst that would happen there is it just wouldn't work). It would need testing on healthy volunteers.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
The result? Congratulations, you've just contracted coronavrius.
Possibly (though not in the case of the second, the worst that would happen there is it just wouldn't work). It would need testing on healthy volunteers.
You need to learn more about biology, starting with the difference between viruses and bacteria.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
If the Italians don't start to see their numbers improve soon they might start to go full fat China.
The key thing the Chinese realised was centralised quarantining, rather than household quarantining, was essential.
A brutal method but once someone within a household gets it, it is almost inevitable the whole household will. Slowing the chain within households stops asymptomatic carriers then going shopping etc.
The other additional method the Chinese adopted was compulsory face masks outside of the home.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
crapsules are definitely a thing for the treatment of GI infections (and, I think, HAI such as c.difficile)
Yes, repopulating the gut bacteria from a healthy donor is quite an interesting idea, and becoming less fringe. Possibly of benefit for a variety of conditions.
I wouldn't try it at home though, and the whole point is establishing normal gut flora, not introducing pathogens!
If the Italians don't start to see their numbers improve soon they might start to go full fat China.
The key thing the Chinese realised was centralised quarantining, rather than household quarantining, was essential.
A brutal method but once someone within a household gets it, it is almost inevitable the whole household will. Slowing the chain within households stops asymptomatic carriers then going shopping etc.
The other additional method the Chinese adopted was compulsory face masks outside of the home.
I think, looking at some of the intermediate numbers from today, which will form the data for tomorrow's count, that there are hints of an improvement coming. Also, they have begun to test people with fewer symptoms in Lombardy - previously they needed to display two symptoms, now they are testing those with only one symptom. That, together with the governor there stating that he thought they were at the beginning of the descent should give us some hope. The latency of this disease is long, so a plateau period is to be expected...
Sunak easily winning the award for "trying not to look like a Tory"
I see he's dual-screening it like a pro-gamer. Good man.
pfft progamers have far more than 2 screens. I am a strict amateur and got 3 screens and 2 laptops running
With one being vertical, of course.
Why vertical? I don't read enough documents for that
Lot of wasted width on a screen if you're working with fixed-width Fortran code...
thankfully I have never had to deal with fortran
That's a classic investment bank setup - two screens is standard
I have 6 screens. 30 years programming.
And if you think FORTRAN is fun, try RPG/400
6 screens - so you are either a trader who is over doing it, or you are in front office ops?
RPG/400 - you were lucky, programmers in my day had plug boards....
I did a phd a long time ago and when I started the equipment I was using was controlled with a single board computer with a hex keyboard. Whenever there was a flash over, which happened a few times a week, around a 1000 lines of machine code had to be re-entered because it had no storage. The previous student that ran the equipment could pretty much type it in from memory.
Luckily shortly after I started it was replaced by a model B BBC micro, which was amazing, though it only had 33k of RAM and used 100k floppy drives. You could a lot with it though.
My daughter is a mental health therapist and she is now doing sessions over the phone, she says it’s heart breaking seeing months of work with agoraphobics and other issues is lost as they get hung up on the virus crisis and only reenforces the problems they were trying to overcome.
The talk of coronavirus being passed on by fecal matter in the previous thread has given me an idea. What if you could immunise against coronavirus by fecal transplant? There are two ways this could work.
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity. 2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
The result? Congratulations, you've just contracted coronavrius.
Possibly (though not in the case of the second, the worst that would happen there is it just wouldn't work). It would need testing on healthy volunteers.
You need to learn more about biology, starting with the difference between viruses and bacteria.
I am always happy to learn, but I know enough to know all the body's systems are interrelated.
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*code for your guilt of knowing stuff rather than just talking about feelings and whatever pops into your head as a good idea, all the time.
I think the 7-14 day trips will be fine - short duration, not going too far, plenty of stops.
And if you think FORTRAN is fun, try RPG/400
He actually looks exactly like a investment banker WFH.
Poor planning - which is a worry.
RPG/400 - you were lucky, programmers in my day had plug boards....
1. Cultures from the poo of a sufferer are *ahem* introduced into a non sufferer in suppository form. The non sufferer doesn't get infected but develops an immunity.
2. The even more ideal option. Cultures from the poo of a healthy recoveree are introduced into a non sufferer by suppository form. The immunity is transferred.
Before anyone thinks I've gone completely off the deep end, fecal transplant is a thing. It's not a recognised treatment, but there are whole clinics for it, and it is widely agreed that the gut microbiome plays a key role in immunity and needs to be better understood.
What do you think?
Screen 1 - General surfing, emails, etc
Screen 2 - IDE
Screen 3 - Graphical work
Screen 4 - Database manager
Screen 5 -Terminal / System monitors
Screen 6 - Support calls
It is quite usual to need the IDE, DB Manager and System monitors all going at the same time for a given project
Hat. Coat. etc....
Although the active cases grew at the slowest rate yet (7.4% per day), the number of new cases hasn't really come down much yet. At 5,774 they are the fourth highest on record.
Now, yes, this is the context of a really high testing number (again over 30,000), so it's not all bad news.
But I would have expected the new cases number to be around the 4,000 number, and it's well above that.
I have seen some people try to solve the problem by adding an extra close blockquote - this won’t work, as there is one too many already.
The key thing the Chinese realised was centralised quarantining, rather than household quarantining, was essential.
A brutal method but once someone within a household gets it, it is almost inevitable the whole household will. Slowing the chain within households stops asymptomatic carriers then going shopping etc.
The other additional method the Chinese adopted was compulsory face masks outside of the home.
I wouldn't try it at home though, and the whole point is establishing normal gut flora, not introducing pathogens!
https://twitter.com/LawDavF/status/1243607117552115712
Incidentally, has anyone seen them in the same room? Or has Tony done a Trudeau on us?
Who are they kidding?
Luckily shortly after I started it was replaced by a model B BBC micro, which was amazing, though it only had 33k of RAM and used 100k floppy drives. You could a lot with it though.
entered strict quarantine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US92PR1tI1o