Obviously there is a lot of detail to follow but he can’t cover it all in five minutes. Should have done it whilst they had a chance to get in front of the game but we all are where we are.
I have been a member for the past 2 weeks. Still not had to crack open the box set of Breaking Bad yet. I do think I might start looking like Tom Hanks in Castaway in a few weeks though.
On Today this morning they stated that - on the basis of the 233 number - we were bang in line with Italy. It was poor reporting by an organisation that should be able to fact check
They’re still at it. This is from the current BBC news special
On thing I've never got is why reporters have to stand outside buildings like Scotland Yard just to have a nice background. At a time like this, seems particularly stupid.
I remember a week ago saying we were in a terrible state for Critical Care beds and ventilators and being told our number made economic sense even though it was the lowest in Europe.
We will pay a terrible price for it in terms of deaths and sacrificing the oldest most poorly over next few weeks imo via rationing ventilators.
Taxpayers will also pay Trillion £+ trying to make up ground and stop the economy going to rat shit as well as firefighting the Tsunami of deaths.
I wish you would get your facts correct. Not the lowest in Europe at all. This is like you claim of x50 the cost for renting private beds.
Sweden, Greece, Ireland, Finland, Slovakia, etc.....all have less. We have the same as social democrats / socialist favourite European example country, Denmark.
It is correct Germany have way way more.
Per 100,000 population
Germany 29.2 Italy 12.5 Spain 9.6 France 11.6 UK 6.3
We are worse than Andorra FFS
The UK number has doubled from your numbers in the past week, and there's a plan for 30,000 more (up to Germany levels) to come from UK engineering companies including F1 teams over the coming days and weeks.
Rubbish every country is trying desperately to up their numbers but we are still lagging behind.
Ventilators worst of any major European Country Acute beds same Critical Care Beds same
FFS, dickhead on Sky already going "oh how do you enforce it is somebodies 1st walk or their 10th of day".
Look you massive bell-end, education the public what they should do, not how not to do it.
Local police can see
As much admiration as I have for the local community policing team and there many colleagues whom Ih ave sporadic work with, I'm not sure they have the level of reach you might think. Voluntary compliance backed up with the power of enforcement does not mean they can track everyone. Hopefully enough to deter those who flout the instruction.
On thing I've never got is why reporters have to stand outside buildings like Scotland Yard just to have a nice background. At a time like this, seems particularly stupid.
Am I missing something? He's not actually banned people from going to work? So factories and building sites still OK to run?
Yes. I'm sure there will still be some dickhead office bosses who insist that their employees are not able to work from home too. I think there's still a risk that we will still see crowds on the tube after this, but perhaps the theatre of the announcement will have an effect. Certainly hope so.
Him saying shopping for basic necessities as infrequently as possible means that many people will now try and do very big shops tomorrow.
Maybe - here in my part of Spain the panic buying tailed off pretty soon. All tunning quite smoothly now. Re-assuring to have army and police patrolling from time to time.
Not seen the army but we have plenty of police officers, supermarkets calm and well stocked, i was doing daily trip to relieve the boredom but am only going to go when I need things, it’s not worth the risk.
They should have closed the London Underground to everyone except key workers about a week ago, and also things like the London flower market that has been in the news.
Him saying shopping for basic necessities as infrequently as possible means that many people will now try and do very big shops tomorrow.
As I said earlier. Shopping will be one of the few things you can go out to do. Everyone will shop every day out of boredom.
I take it that all the work by restaurants to convert to takeaway operation have all wasted their time/money?
For a week no, takeaways did good business then
Home delivery will take off even more
If they stay open. I checked my just eat options around 8pm , normally round my area in edinburgh there's approx 160 places that do delivery. At 8pm tonight it was 108. Its now down to 96....95 now.
On thing I've never got is why reporters have to stand outside buildings like Scotland Yard just to have a nice background. At a time like this, seems particularly stupid.
As I said a few days ago I can't fathom why they are allowed to stand outside No. 10 at a times like this for such pointless effect.
Him saying shopping for basic necessities as infrequently as possible means that many people will now try and do very big shops tomorrow.
Maybe - here in my part of Spain the panic buying tailed off pretty soon. All tunning quite smoothly now. Re-assuring to have army and police patrolling from time to time.
The same happened in Los Angeles. Initially supermarkets were completely sold out. Now, they're basically fine. (Except for loo paper, which people are hoarding.)
I remember a week ago saying we were in a terrible state for Critical Care beds and ventilators and being told our number made economic sense even though it was the lowest in Europe.
We will pay a terrible price for it in terms of deaths and sacrificing the oldest most poorly over next few weeks imo via rationing ventilators.
Taxpayers will also pay Trillion £+ trying to make up ground and stop the economy going to rat shit as well as firefighting the Tsunami of deaths.
I wish you would get your facts correct. Not the lowest in Europe at all. This is like you claim of x50 the cost for renting private beds.
Sweden, Greece, Ireland, Finland, Slovakia, etc.....all have less. We have the same as social democrats / socialist favourite European example country, Denmark.
It is correct Germany have way way more.
Per 100,000 population
Germany 29.2 Italy 12.5 Spain 9.6 France 11.6 UK 6.3
We are worse than Andorra FFS
The UK number has doubled from your numbers in the past week, and there's a plan for 30,000 more (up to Germany levels) to come from UK engineering companies including F1 teams over the coming days and weeks.
Rubbish every country is trying desperately to up their numbers but we are still lagging behind.
Ventilators worst of any major European Country Acute beds same Critical Care Beds same
Wonder if this will work. Will people stay at home?
They will have to, as Boris stated if they do not police will arrest and fine them if they are not out for a legitimate reason.
We are about to become the closest we have been to a police state for the next 12 weeks since the Protectorate of Oliver Cromwell in the 1650s, with even tighter restrictions than during the Blitz
'The Spanish army has started to deep clean OAP residency homes across the country - and has already reported several cases of coming across dead residents, ignored by staff. Just the tip of the iceberg of the neglect and horror of many public OAP residency homes in Spain. '
Amazon have already been very busy reordering priorities. They won't take any stock from 3rd parties for non-essentials. I think it is clear they will just become more and more focused on essentials.
Jesus F##king Christ, dickhead #2 on Sky saying who knows if you take more than one run a day.
Look you complete cretin, educate the public and of course if the police keep seeing the same idiot out and about they will have the powers to say what the hell you are doing. And the idea is that 90% of the public won't take the piss.
Him saying shopping for basic necessities as infrequently as possible means that many people will now try and do very big shops tomorrow.
As I said earlier. Shopping will be one of the few things you can go out to do. Everyone will shop every day out of boredom.
I take it that all the work by restaurants to convert to takeaway operation have all wasted their time/money?
For a week no, takeaways did good business then
I'm sorry Hyfud....sometimes you just seem to post such utter tosh....pubs were only closed 3 nights ago...and my local had gone to a huge amount of effort to set themselves up as a takeaway in these 2 days.....
I mean, honestly, who goes on more than one walk in a day? Dog walkers maybe? But really, it’s the groups of people hanging around together that needs stopping.
Him saying shopping for basic necessities as infrequently as possible means that many people will now try and do very big shops tomorrow.
As I said earlier. Shopping will be one of the few things you can go out to do. Everyone will shop every day out of boredom.
I take it that all the work by restaurants to convert to takeaway operation have all wasted their time/money?
For a week no, takeaways did good business then
Home delivery will take off even more
They don't have the capacity.
And this is the problem. People cannot order online shopping as online shopping was never set up and resourced to manage more than the small market share they had. There aren't a huge number of extra vans and drivers and order pickers sat idle waiting to be switched on.
I guess the problem is gatherings of large numbers of people. You don't have that when ordering online.
The staff are at risk.
The photos of amazon warehouses that I have seen do not look anywhere near as packed as shops on the high street.
Didn't Boris encourage getting things delivered? Does that only include food and meds? I think not. No sign of eBay and Amazon closing.
In China, they allowed the equivalent of them running. They did only allow 2-3 companies and drivers had to had a particular accreditation, but they did whizz about Wuhan delivering all sorts of stuff.
So no change then. Just a more serious tone. I am relieved.
The police just got sweeping powers to disperse groups of a few people or more. I think there's been a slight change.
What police.
Have they all disappeared or something?
Yes. 25k+ gone. An utter lack of police to carry out basic function already, never mind enforcing stay at home orders
Utter lack of police to carry out basic functions? OK.
Yup. Big increase in petty crime vandalism and ASB. Repeated public meetings demanding action with the local Inspector and PCC being very honest about how many officers they don't have.
Sorry if you are in denial about just how fucked the police service has become over the last 10 years. We'll need the Army- what's left of it - to enforce this.
I mean, honestly, who goes on more than one walk in a day? Dog walkers maybe? But really, it’s the groups of people hanging around together that needs stopping.
Honestly you're probably right. Certainly I spend most of my time indoors anyway, as too much time on PBs hows. But as The Cat once noted, that's because we all knew we could walk out the door at any time. It will wrankle with people.
But I think people have been sufficiently primed and compliance will be pretty high, though I expect we'll still get photos of people not doing so.
I remember a week ago saying we were in a terrible state for Critical Care beds and ventilators and being told our number made economic sense even though it was the lowest in Europe.
We will pay a terrible price for it in terms of deaths and sacrificing the oldest most poorly over next few weeks imo via rationing ventilators.
Taxpayers will also pay Trillion £+ trying to make up ground and stop the economy going to rat shit as well as firefighting the Tsunami of deaths.
I wish you would get your facts correct. Not the lowest in Europe at all. This is like you claim of x50 the cost for renting private beds.
Sweden, Greece, Ireland, Finland, Slovakia, etc.....all have less. We have the same as social democrats / socialist favourite European example country, Denmark.
It is correct Germany have way way more.
Per 100,000 population
Germany 29.2 Italy 12.5 Spain 9.6 France 11.6 UK 6.3
We are worse than Andorra FFS
The UK number has doubled from your numbers in the past week, and there's a plan for 30,000 more (up to Germany levels) to come from UK engineering companies including F1 teams over the coming days and weeks.
Rubbish every country is trying desperately to up their numbers but we are still lagging behind.
Ventilators worst of any major European Country Acute beds same Critical Care Beds same
Comments
https://twitter.com/scotgov/status/1242190410358939648?s=20
Funerals immediate family only
Then the publication of the actual spec by the government:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/specification-for-ventilators-to-be-used-in-uk-hospitals-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak
Then go to the BBC:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/business-52006907/the-prodrive-motorsport-company-it-switching-its-factory-to-ventilators
Here's Sky News:
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-extraordinary-uk-effort-to-produce-thousands-more-ventilators-11961559
And even the Daily Mail - all seven UK-based F1 teams now involved.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8140001/Coronavirus-UK-Seven-Formula-One-teams-workforces-set-making-life-saving-ventilators-NHS.html
The world will demand they clamp down on hygiene, animal welfare and trading and sanitary standards.
I hope that all PB contributors, posters and readers do not lose any close, loved ones whilst Corvid19 is at large.
We are about to become the closest we have been to a police state for the next 12 weeks since the Protectorate of Oliver Cromwell in the 1650s, with even tighter restrictions than during the Blitz
'The Spanish army has started to deep clean OAP residency homes across the country - and has already reported several cases of coming across dead residents, ignored by staff. Just the tip of the iceberg of the neglect and horror of many public OAP residency homes in Spain. '
All shops to be closed, ‘except those selling food, medicines, banks and post offices.’
Time they cleaned up their act.
Perhaps if the government funded everyone a free kindle for the duration.
China need to be held to account for their poor regulation and enforcement and clean up their act.
No ifs no buts.
Look you complete cretin, educate the public and of course if the police keep seeing the same idiot out and about they will have the powers to say what the hell you are doing. And the idea is that 90% of the public won't take the piss.
Not you, of course.
Well, probably not you.
Well..
It's a bit like getting Tommy Cooper to deliver a university physics lecture - not the person you'd choose.
I expect that will be shared by many
PS.
My youngest son has text saying it is very tough but very impressed with Boris's tone
From Gideon Osborne to Alexander Johnson.
I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now.
No hows either... How is that 'holding to account' going to happen?
My expectation is that all civil business in the courts will now stop with the exception of emergency orders. I am effectively out of work. Hey ho.
Sorry if you are in denial about just how fucked the police service has become over the last 10 years. We'll need the Army- what's left of it - to enforce this.
Edit: sorry, that should be 'Wee Nippy knew!!!!'
But I think people have been sufficiently primed and compliance will be pretty high, though I expect we'll still get photos of people not doing so.