So is the Salmond acquittal good or bad news for Sturgeon?
Very Bad
Can you just summarise why? (Sorry, I should know this.)
Well it was all SNP senior people or senior members of the SNP team that did the accusing , they reported it to SNP who said they would hold on to it in case he made a comeback and as soon as he indicated that they used it. They bungled it and had to fold initial case and pay Salmond 600K in costs , almost unheard of as many times actual costs. He will be after them for sure and have plenty ammunition I would imagine and a new independence party would be very bad news for them. He will not be hiding away for sure.
The Rentool formula says current infection level is between 268,000 and 536,000.
So, over 90% of those tested do not have Covid-19. What`s going on? Are folk going to NHS to get tested when they just have a cold?
There was an item on the lunchtime news from GPs reporting that some people are apparently exaggerating or making up their symptoms and/or travel history in order to get in to see a doctor and ask for a test. Some of them confess once they get the appointment they are wanting.
The nudge unit should recommend a nominal charge as a deterent - chargeable only when a test proves negative. They`re doing it because they are prats plus NHS is free.
A number of French fashion houses have announced they will be producing coronavirus masks
Design houses Yves Saint Laurent and Balenciaga will shift their attentions from high fashion to producing surgical face masks to aid the global coronavirus assault, their parent company Kering said.
Ooh.
You wanting one to match your Balenciaga trainers?
Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.
SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.
Not quite right. Donald Stewart, former leader of the SNP and MP for the Western Isles, accepted a peerage.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.
They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.
For a smaller scale Olympics they can, everyone will be in the same boat anyway
No they won't.
Different countries have different rates of infection and are further/lower down the curve.
Plus a lot of Team GB athletes go overseas for warm weather/altitude training, something they cannot do, and gives an advantage to countries with warmer weather/higher altitudes.
Enough of the big countries would be past the peak for it to be viable, even the Moscow 1980 Olympics went ahead despite a US boycott and there is no guarantee 2021 will be perfect for the Olympics either if a vaccine is not yet found. The fact GB athletes cannot train in Florida is of little concern
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
The fact that it's a televised address in the middle of primetime TV, rather than a press conference at 5pm, suggests the measures will be quite big.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
Get real.
Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada
If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer
We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter
Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.
Not sure that's the case.
There's a fundamental difference between halving the area under a curve vs picking the maximum point and splitting it that way.
Most of the projections looks roughly symmetric. So if you are near the peak you are probably quite close to 50% of the total area.
Yes, if the projections are symmetric, then yes, but I wouldn't dare be precise about it.
I can see the final 'distribution' having a long tail, fwiw
On the face of it, certainly so, but its Monday and the figures are often distorted by the weekend. I'm sure the deaths figure is right, but the new cases could be wrong.
I recall years ago when my wife was pregnant, she was told by the NCT that a majority of babies are born between 9am and 5pm, Monday to Friday. Despite all the issues, breaking into weekend working still seems almost taboo, and I bet both testing is down over the weekend, and the official coroner may have knocked off early on Sunday so there will be a lot of 8am Monday morning 'deaths' today.
You'd also expect the peak in deaths to lag the peak in new cases by several days at least - unless the deaths that happen are happening very soon after diagnosis (or a large proportion before diagnosis - i.e. positive tests after death).
I wouldn't necessarily expect that. The number to look at in Italy is deaths. There's obviously tons of untested infections
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
Get real.
Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada
If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer
We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter
Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.
Not sure that's the case.
There's a fundamental difference between halving the area under a curve vs picking the maximum point and splitting it that way.
Most of the projections looks roughly symmetric. So if you are near the peak you are probably quite close to 50% of the total area.
Yes, if the projections are symmetric, then yes, but I wouldn't dare be precise about it.
I can see the final 'distribution' having a long tail, fwiw
True. You are likely to be closer to 50% than 20% or 80% though.
Police have launched a hunt for a customer who coughed in a Tesco employee's face and spat at a member of the public amid heightened fears about the spread of Covid-19.
Officers were called to the retailer's petrol station at Kingston Park, Newcastle, just before 10am on Saturday, following an incident during which a customer came to the cashier's aid.
Right they are first on the flight to the real life Battle Royale....
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
From my work emails, and the limits placed on staff into school from tomorrow, I'd say you're right.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
Get real.
Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada
If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer
We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter
Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.
That rather assumes the curve will look like a normal distribution.
Yeah... given the ~14 day wait until severe symptoms show, one might hope that there would be a sharper drop off in new cases after the peak, so I'm not sure we should expect it to be symmetric. I think the symmetry comes if you let the epidemic run uncontrolled or if you introduce less stringent social distancing measures. With more extreme measures (as we began to adopt here on Friday last and will likely reinforce today) you would expect cases to rise for the next fortnight and then to drop off, as many of those who would show a severe infection requiring hospitalisation would likely have been infected prior to the lockdown period.
Police have launched a hunt for a customer who coughed in a Tesco employee's face and spat at a member of the public amid heightened fears about the spread of Covid-19.
Officers were called to the retailer's petrol station at Kingston Park, Newcastle, just before 10am on Saturday, following an incident during which a customer came to the cashier's aid.
Right they are first on the flight to the real life Battle Royale....
So is the Salmond acquittal good or bad news for Sturgeon?
Very Bad
Can you just summarise why? (Sorry, I should know this.)
Well it was all SNP senior people or senior members of the SNP team that did the accusing , they reported it to SNP who said they would hold on to it in case he made a comeback and as soon as he indicated that they used it. They bungled it and had to fold initial case and pay Salmond 600K in costs , almost unheard of as many times actual costs. He will be after them for sure and have plenty ammunition I would imagine and a new independence party would be very bad news for them. He will not be hiding away for sure.
Thanks Malc - my impression (from down here) of Salmond was that he was an extremely effective and formidable politician. Why would SNP senior people be after his head? Is it credible that even if they wanted to get rid of him that they would manufacture such awful charges against him?
The Rentool formula says current infection level is between 268,000 and 536,000.
So, over 90% of those tested do not have Covid-19. What`s going on? Are folk going to NHS to get tested when they just have a cold?
There was an item on the lunchtime news from GPs reporting that some people are apparently exaggerating or making up their symptoms and/or travel history in order to get in to see a doctor and ask for a test. Some of them confess once they get the appointment they are wanting.
Do the emergency powers include an equivalent offence to wasting police time, for wasting the time of key medical workers? Let's hope so.
Does this verdict change much? People make their own minds up as to guilt or innocence and a verdict won’t change their minds. See OJ Simpson where the reaction to the verdict was split on racial lines. In this case I would imagine that reaction will be similarly polarised according to your own view of the individual.
The presence of the "not proven" verdict option in Scotland ought to give more weight to a "not guilty" verdict. In other jurisdictions, "not proven" and "not guilty" get lumped together under "not guilty".
It is NOT GUILTY and sticks in unionists craws
But there was one where it was not proven, wasn't there?
In Scotland that is exactly the same as Innocent.
Well, not really. Not Guilty is innocent. Not Proven is....not proven.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
From my work emails, and the limits placed on staff into school from tomorrow, I'd say you're right.
We are basically a couple of days behind Germany in case number and implementation I think...
designate affected employees as ‘furloughed workers,’ and notify your employees of this change - changing the status of employees remains subject to existing employment law and, depending on the employment contract, may be subject to negotiation submit information to HMRC about the employees that have been furloughed and their earnings through a new online portal (HMRC will set out further details on the information required) HMRC will reimburse 80% of furloughed workers wage costs, up to a cap of £2,500 per month. HMRC are working urgently to set up a system for reimbursement. Existing systems are not set up to facilitate payments to employers.
Is there a betting market for "word of the year 2020"? I am plumping for "furlough".
I'll go for "coronavirus".
Social distancing
No contest
That’s two words.
Fake news won in 2017. Other winners include post-truth and single-use.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
The fact that it's a televised address in the middle of primetime TV, rather than a press conference at 5pm, suggests the measures will be quite big.
I'd prefer to get home from the isle of wight first.
Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.
SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.
Not quite right. Donald Stewart, former leader of the SNP and MP for the Western Isles, accepted a peerage.
No he didn't.
You're right. My mistake. Thanks for the correction. I think George Reid accepted a knighthood after stepping down as presiding officer, but not the same really,
Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.
SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.
Not quite right. Donald Stewart, former leader of the SNP and MP for the Western Isles, accepted a peerage.
The Rentool formula says current infection level is between 268,000 and 536,000.
So, over 90% of those tested do not have Covid-19. What`s going on? Are folk going to NHS to get tested when they just have a cold?
There was an item on the lunchtime news from GPs reporting that some people are apparently exaggerating or making up their symptoms and/or travel history in order to get in to see a doctor and ask for a test. Some of them confess once they get the appointment they are wanting.
Do the emergency powers include an equivalent offence to wasting police time, for wasting the time of key medical workers? Let's hope so.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
The fact that it's a televised address in the middle of primetime TV, rather than a press conference at 5pm, suggests the measures will be quite big.
I'd prefer to get home from the isle of wight first.
My ferry is at 11am tomorrow morning.
I doubt the Isle of Wight will be cut off from the mainland.
Police have launched a hunt for a customer who coughed in a Tesco employee's face and spat at a member of the public amid heightened fears about the spread of Covid-19.
Officers were called to the retailer's petrol station at Kingston Park, Newcastle, just before 10am on Saturday, following an incident during which a customer came to the cashier's aid.
Right they are first on the flight to the real life Battle Royale....
Time to bring back flogging?
(Some) young men will be a problem. They are pumped full of testosterone and aggression and feel both frustrated and like they have something to prove.
Now there's a chap who should know how to entertain himself while self isolating.
There was a guy in my industry called Richard Head.... how can any parent be that dense?
I once had to work with a with an idiot graduate engineer (employed by another outfit) who rejoiced in the name Richard Rider. That was foolish of his parents. Also used to have dealings with a Richard Eddy, who had a predicable nickname...
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
Get real.
Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada
If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer
We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter
Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.
Not sure that's the case.
There's a fundamental difference between halving the area under a curve vs picking the maximum point and splitting it that way.
Most of the projections looks roughly symmetric. So if you are near the peak you are probably quite close to 50% of the total area.
Yes, if the projections are symmetric, then yes, but I wouldn't dare be precise about it.
I can see the final 'distribution' having a long tail, fwiw
True. You are likely to be closer to 50% than 20% or 80% though.
Sure. Its just something I do spend a bit of time working on.
Just a fwiw, but the two approaches differ by 33 % for this distribution.
Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.
SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.
Not quite right. Donald Stewart, former leader of the SNP and MP for the Western Isles, accepted a peerage.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
Get real.
Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada
If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer
We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter
Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.
Not sure that's the case.
There's a fundamental difference between halving the area under a curve vs picking the maximum point and splitting it that way.
Most of the projections looks roughly symmetric. So if you are near the peak you are probably quite close to 50% of the total area.
Yes, if the projections are symmetric, then yes, but I wouldn't dare be precise about it.
I can see the final 'distribution' having a long tail, fwiw
True. You are likely to be closer to 50% than 20% or 80% though.
Just a fwiw, but the two approaches differ by 33 % for this distribution.
Interesting, the peak can come earlier than the 50th percentile person being infected. You could imagine the final distribution being the other way round, too.
Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.
SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.
Not quite right. Donald Stewart, former leader of the SNP and MP for the Western Isles, accepted a peerage.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
So is the Salmond acquittal good or bad news for Sturgeon?
Very Bad
Can you just summarise why? (Sorry, I should know this.)
Well it was all SNP senior people or senior members of the SNP team that did the accusing , they reported it to SNP who said they would hold on to it in case he made a comeback and as soon as he indicated that they used it. They bungled it and had to fold initial case and pay Salmond 600K in costs , almost unheard of as many times actual costs. He will be after them for sure and have plenty ammunition I would imagine and a new independence party would be very bad news for them. He will not be hiding away for sure.
Thanks Malc - my impression (from down here) of Salmond was that he was an extremely effective and formidable politician. Why would SNP senior people be after his head? Is it credible that even if they wanted to get rid of him that they would manufacture such awful charges against him?
They did not want him back in politics , the cosy clique at the top had a lot to lose but made a complete horlicks of the alleged stitch up.
Now there's a chap who should know how to entertain himself while self isolating.
There was a guy in my industry called Richard Head.... how can any parent be that dense?
I once had to work with a with an idiot graduate engineer (employed by another outfit) who rejoiced in the name Richard Rider. That was foolish of his parents. Also used to have dealings with a Richard Eddy, who had a predicable nickname...
I used to have a constituent called John Thomas. Who got very cross when I canvassed him using that name, as he commonly used his second name instead.
And there was Krystal Ball on Newsnight recently talking about the US Primaries.
Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.
SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.
Not quite right. Donald Stewart, former leader of the SNP and MP for the Western Isles, accepted a peerage.
On Today this morning they stated that - on the basis of the 233 number - we were bang in line with Italy. It was poor reporting by an organisation that should be able to fact check
Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.
SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.
Not quite right. Donald Stewart, former leader of the SNP and MP for the Western Isles, accepted a peerage.
According to wikipedia he refused it.
Scurrilous lies
I confess, Malc. Got that wrong. Mea culpa.
Off to the SNP reeducation centre with you.
I live north of the border already..that's what it feels like, anyway,
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
No lockdown. Trust the people.
The poll posted above suggest a large fraction are following the recommendations. I wonder how much of this is the media looking for non-compliance and finding it, and reporting it as if everyone is not complying.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
The fact that it's a televised address in the middle of primetime TV, rather than a press conference at 5pm, suggests the measures will be quite big.
I'd prefer to get home from the isle of wight first.
My ferry is at 11am tomorrow morning.
I doubt the Isle of Wight will be cut off from the mainland.
True. They're still making people pour out the cars and into passenger cabins on some journeys though, which I think is crazy.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
The fact that it's a televised address in the middle of primetime TV, rather than a press conference at 5pm, suggests the measures will be quite big.
I'd prefer to get home from the isle of wight first.
My ferry is at 11am tomorrow morning.
I doubt the Isle of Wight will be cut off from the mainland.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
The fact that it's a televised address in the middle of primetime TV, rather than a press conference at 5pm, suggests the measures will be quite big.
I'd prefer to get home from the isle of wight first.
My ferry is at 11am tomorrow morning.
I doubt the Isle of Wight will be cut off from the mainland.
True. They're still making people pour out the cars and into passenger cabins on some journeys though, which I think is crazy.
It’s contrary to international maritime law to have passengers on a designated cargo deck, and they had to get a dispensation for the one boat based on their safety plan including having staff manning the deck throughout the voyage. Perhaps the design of the Clare made it easier to get the dispensation for than the Victoria.
Plan to build 30,000 ventilators to treat Covid-19 patients steps up a gear as final design settled on ready for mass production.
There's at least four F1 teams involved in this project - just about the only time they've ever agreed on anything!
Great to see a lot of British engineering companies step up to help
Hopefully they aren't as complicated to operate as the standard F1 steering wheel...so you say I have to engage the left trigger 75% of the way in, while pressing the X and the B buttons for exactly 5s to put it in auto-start ventilate mode, is that correct?
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
No lockdown. Trust the people.
The poll posted above suggest a large fraction are following the recommendations. I wonder how much of this is the media looking for non-compliance and finding it, and reporting it as if everyone is not complying.
The media need to take a long, hard look at themselves over their reporting of the past few weeks.
Way too much time on finding angles, opinion pieces and storytelling - at the expense of hard facts, official advice and science.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
No lockdown. Trust the people.
The poll posted above suggest a large fraction are following the recommendations. I wonder how much of this is the media looking for non-compliance and finding it, and reporting it as if everyone is not complying.
The media need to take a long, hard look at themselves over their reporting of the past few weeks.
Way too much time on finding angles, opinion pieces and storytelling - at the expense of hard facts, official advice and science.
Well you only have to look at this morning. Hancock announces that in a week he has managed to go from 5,000 to 12,000 ventilators, has done a great deal with the private hospitals to get all their capacity and staff at cost and got over 7500 medical staff out of retirement....and the first response is WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE.
Just seen the footage of a scrum outside a supermarket on ITV news.
Then the scenes from the tube.
That's why strong measures are required.
The Underground today has been a real disaster. On the one hand you have Sadiq Khan urging people not to travel and then you have the service reductions which I can't work out are because of drivers not being available or a deliberate attempt to prevent usage by making it difficult to use.
Add to that the fact we don't have a lock-down and those people who can't work from home and are compelled to go somewhere to work end up trying to get to work and it's a recipe for disaster.
The shutdown of non-essential business (to be announced tonight?) should reduce the demand to travel though I suspect some will still try to travel tomorrow morning because, and it bears repeating, there are people who have to work and cannot survive without the daily or weekly wage.
Whether the news of Sunak's largesse has reached these individuals and whether some of them will understand how to take advantage of said largesse remains to be seen,
Plan to build 30,000 ventilators to treat Covid-19 patients steps up a gear as final design settled on ready for mass production.
There's at least four F1 teams involved in this project - just about the only time they've ever agreed on anything!
Great to see a lot of British engineering companies step up to help
They can build them quick as well as their tea breaks only last 7 seconds
Perhaps we'll see next year's pit crews hyperventilating for a minute or two before the car stops, once someone works out after a thousand hours of testing that it might make the pit stop 0.1 seconds faster?
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it
No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK
The reason is vested interests are hiding behind their hands
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Can we all just get together and say 2020 is a write off, and we'll try 2020 again next year?
Can’t they just show all last year’s sport on television as repeats?
Well I think they definitely should replay the Eng vs NZ cricket world cup final and also the final day of the Ashes test where Stokes played one of the greatest innings in test cricket.
So, what’s everyone think, lockdown or no lockdown?
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
No lockdown. Trust the people.
There's been a concerted ramping up of measures over time preparing people for either formal or informal lockdown, as much as is possible. Societal pressure is needed to see such a tactic succeed, and right now people are mostly primed to back stringent measures, whether they are formally a lockdown or not.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it
No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK
The reason is vested interests are hiding behind their hands
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Can we all just get together and say 2020 is a write off, and we'll try 2020 again next year?
Can’t they just show all last year’s sport on television as repeats?
Well I think they definitely should replay the Eng vs NZ cricket world cup final and also the final day of the Ashes test where Stokes played one of the greatest innings in test cricket.
They did that on Sky Sports on Christmas Day and New Year's Day.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it
No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK
The reason is vested interests are hiding behind their hands
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Can we all just get together and say 2020 is a write off, and we'll try 2020 again next year?
Can’t they just show all last year’s sport on television as repeats?
Well I think they definitely should replay the Eng vs NZ cricket world cup final and also the final day of the Ashes test where Stokes played one of the greatest innings in test cricket.
They did that on Sky Sports on Christmas Day and New Year's Day.
They should do the nation a favour and stick it on the YouTube...
Police have launched a hunt for a customer who coughed in a Tesco employee's face and spat at a member of the public amid heightened fears about the spread of Covid-19.
Officers were called to the retailer's petrol station at Kingston Park, Newcastle, just before 10am on Saturday, following an incident during which a customer came to the cashier's aid.
Right they are first on the flight to the real life Battle Royale....
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it
No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK
The reason is vested interests are hiding behind their hands
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Can we all just get together and say 2020 is a write off, and we'll try 2020 again next year?
Can’t they just show all last year’s sport on television as repeats?
Well I think they definitely should replay the Eng vs NZ cricket world cup final and also the final day of the Ashes test where Stokes played one of the greatest innings in test cricket.
Can they replay the entire 2005 Ashes series, the 2003 Rugby World Cup and the 2005 European Cup final? Oh, and the 2008 Brazil Grand Prix. Pretty please.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it
No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK
The reason is vested interests are hiding behind their hands
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Can we all just get together and say 2020 is a write off, and we'll try 2020 again next year?
Can’t they just show all last year’s sport on television as repeats?
Well I think they definitely should replay the Eng vs NZ cricket world cup final and also the final day of the Ashes test where Stokes played one of the greatest innings in test cricket.
They did that on Sky Sports on Christmas Day and New Year's Day.
They should do the nation a favour and stick it on the YouTube...
They should stick the Wimbledon final on at the same time for greater verisimilitude.
Also, based on that poll 90% of people are following government advice in one way or another.
Of course they are.
The only ones I've seen out and about who haven't been are young men. Anyone over about 45 years old takes it very seriously.
I'm seeing the exact opposite - young people, especially with small children, are being hyper careful, and the older generation are scornful of their overcautiousness. My father in law seems determined to spend more time out of the house than usual, to the horror of his daughter (and wife, admittedly).
Both he and my father (less committed to dying early, but still putting up a good show) are of the Hardest Brexit Possible persuasion, which tallies with other data indicating there's a correlation there.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it
No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK
The reason is vested interests are hiding behind their hands
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Can we all just get together and say 2020 is a write off, and we'll try 2020 again next year?
Can’t they just show all last year’s sport on television as repeats?
Well I think they definitely should replay the Eng vs NZ cricket world cup final and also the final day of the Ashes test where Stokes played one of the greatest innings in test cricket.
Can they replay the entire 2005 Ashes series, the 2003 Rugby World Cup and the 2005 European Cup final? Oh, and the 2008 Brazil Grand Prix. Pretty please.
Perhaps the media companies could play nicely with one another and either take over a free to air channel for the next 2-3 months or do a live YouTube channel showing the home nations greatest sports matches.
I am sure people would love to see stuff like the 1966 World Cup final again.
» show previous quotes Well, if what your alleging is the case, there will be further legal action to come.
It was stated in the evidence from the court that 6 of them were in a Whatsapp group discussing the allegations.
What does that prove?
Merely that the accusers were an organised group many years after the allegations took place and reported it to SNP first rather than police. I did not say it proved anything merely that they were online comparing stories which I imagine is unusual, though I have no legal qualifications..
If they are an organised group not acknowledged in advance and in public, is that not a deception of the court ie Contempt?
(Shades of the unacknowledged coordination before the attacks on Sir Tim Hunt that had him defenestrated from UCL.)
Trump moves seamlessly from charlatan politician to quack doctor.
It's the Power of Positive Thinking. It can solve all problems...
That being said, if we are able to find a drug regime that reduces the likelihood of hospitalisation by (say) 50%, and if you combine it with early testing, then that has pretty positive impacts on outcomes.
When a journalist sees groups of 4 or 5 people in close proximity on a beach or in a park, I wonder whether they're betraying their own prejudices in assuming that those people don't live in the same place of residence? London journalists are probably one of the groups most likely to either live alone or with just one other person, whereas in other parts of the country households are more likely to consist of a larger number of people.
Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season
Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then
Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July
You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it
No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK
The reason is vested interests are hiding behind their hands
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Can we all just get together and say 2020 is a write off, and we'll try 2020 again next year?
Can’t they just show all last year’s sport on television as repeats?
Well I think they definitely should replay the Eng vs NZ cricket world cup final and also the final day of the Ashes test where Stokes played one of the greatest innings in test cricket.
They did that on Sky Sports on Christmas Day and New Year's Day.
They should do the nation a favour and stick it on the YouTube...
Replaying the entire 2012 olympics on the tv as it happened was a good idea I thought
Some people are being very creative with this situation e.g apparently the PT Joe Wicks got 100,000s of kids doing his PE class this morning.
A Boston band did a free live streamed concert for St Patricks day, and got about a million views on the night and another million on catchup.
Last night, the official F1 Youtube channel did a live stream of "Not the Bahrain Grand Prix", which was an "esports" game of a couple of dozen pro drivers all on their PlayStations from home. A lot of out-of-the-box thinking going on.
F1 management have also unblocked a load of Youtube content that Bernie had taken down over the years, including dozens of full races.
When a journalist sees groups of 4 or 5 people in close proximity on a beach or in a park, I wonder whether they're betraying their own prejudices in assuming that those people don't live in the same place of residence? London journalists are probably one of the groups most likely to either live alone or with just one other person, whereas in other parts of the country households are more likely to consist of a larger number of people.
Whilst there is no doubt bad behaving in this ,it is an unhealthy trait to always be obsessing about other people in this respect . Far better to concentrate on what you do .There is not a lot of point getting worked up by others . Not sure the media are that angelic themselves either .Do we really want to get like the Stasi? Spying on others ?Collecting "evidence" by filming etc
I’ve just been told by the NHS that, due to my vulnerability I need to self isolate for 12 weeks. That is going to be hard.
Positive attitude mate. I haven't left the house for 2 weeks and kept myself busy and it is whizzing by.
Also, Ozarks is back in 3 days.....
I've been stuck since the start of February when I had an op, got the same text today! Well I presume it's the same, compared notes with a friend and she got whatever the electronic equivalent of a carbon copy is.
Perhaps we can all compare notes, mine said:
NHS Coronavirus Service: We have identified that you're someone at risk of severe illness if you catch Coronavirus.
Please remain at home for a minimum of 12 weeks. Home is the safest place for you.
Staying in helps you stay well and that will help the NHS too. You can open a window but do not leave your home, and stay 3 steps away from others indoors.
Wash your hands more often, for at least 20 seconds.
The Dutch Justice Minister announced today that the government will ban all public gatherings in the Netherlands until June 1, removing the previous limit of 100 people and extending previously announced measures.
Ferdinand Grapperhaus, Minister of Justice and Security, also said that the government is empowering mayors to fine people or businesses who disregard the rules.
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He will be after them for sure and have plenty ammunition I would imagine and a new independence party would be very bad news for them. He will not be hiding away for sure.
The fact GB athletes cannot train in Florida is of little concern
I suspect it will be lockdown 0.5. No going to public spaces except essential workers needing to travel. But stopping short of banning us all leaving the house.
I can see the final 'distribution' having a long tail, fwiw
Officers were called to the retailer's petrol station at Kingston Park, Newcastle, just before 10am on Saturday, following an incident during which a customer came to the cashier's aid.
Right they are first on the flight to the real life Battle Royale....
My ferry is at 11am tomorrow morning.
https://twitter.com/rickastley/status/1242158901279313923
I think George Reid accepted a knighthood after stepping down as presiding officer, but not the same really,
Twas ever thus.
Also used to have dealings with a Richard Eddy, who had a predicable nickname...
Just a fwiw, but the two approaches differ by 33 % for this distribution.
And there was Krystal Ball on Newsnight recently talking about the US Primaries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz4bh9L172U
The Olympics will not take place and to be honest thinking they will is an insult to the millions of people suffering severe health and economic costs
Most if not all sporting events upto late august will be cancelled
Then the scenes from the tube.
That's why strong measures are required.
Great to see a lot of British engineering companies step up to help
Accept the inevitable
Way too much time on finding angles, opinion pieces and storytelling - at the expense of hard facts, official advice and science.
Add to that the fact we don't have a lock-down and those people who can't work from home and are compelled to go somewhere to work end up trying to get to work and it's a recipe for disaster.
The shutdown of non-essential business (to be announced tonight?) should reduce the demand to travel though I suspect some will still try to travel tomorrow morning because, and it bears repeating, there are people who have to work and cannot survive without the daily or weekly wage.
Whether the news of Sunak's largesse has reached these individuals and whether some of them will understand how to take advantage of said largesse remains to be seen,
Also, Ozarks is back in 3 days.....
We are also shielding.
Both he and my father (less committed to dying early, but still putting up a good show) are of the Hardest Brexit Possible persuasion, which tallies with other data indicating there's a correlation there.
I am sure people would love to see stuff like the 1966 World Cup final again.
(Shades of the unacknowledged coordination before the attacks on Sir Tim Hunt that had him defenestrated from UCL.)
That being said, if we are able to find a drug regime that reduces the likelihood of hospitalisation by (say) 50%, and if you combine it with early testing, then that has pretty positive impacts on outcomes.
A Boston band did a free live streamed concert for St Patricks day, and got about a million views on the night and another million on catchup.
F1 management have also unblocked a load of Youtube content that Bernie had taken down over the years, including dozens of full races.
Perhaps we can all compare notes, mine said:
Ferdinand Grapperhaus, Minister of Justice and Security, also said that the government is empowering mayors to fine people or businesses who disregard the rules.