"Staff will receive free burials when it's over" would be a lot more chilling.
At least it assumes staff will be alive at the end of this process.
The ones in HDU/ICU will see plenty of death in normal times, there were a right good few during my hospital visiting during my wife's recent 5 week stay.
Bizarrely, Waitrose's standard email response now includes the instructions for sending it out:
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Not all businesses are suffering. Try buying home gym equipment.
Just ordered a Peloton! I'm told it will arrive April 2nd. I won't be shocked if it doesn't...
Is that the one where you get stung for 40 quid a month so you can pretend you are cycling with a bunch of freaks and some whiny bint prattles on in a high pitched squeaky voice
Precisely. I can't wait.
I know there are cheaper ways of doing the same thing, but as an iPhone user I find it reassuringly expensive.
Not all businesses are suffering. Try buying home gym equipment.
Just ordered a Peloton! I'm told it will arrive April 2nd. I won't be shocked if it doesn't...
Is that the one where you get stung for 40 quid a month so you can pretend you are cycling with a bunch of freaks and some whiny bint prattles on in a high pitched squeaky voice
Precisely. I can't wait.
I know there are cheaper ways of doing the same thing, but as an iPhone user I find it reassuringly expensive.
Hopefully they do not use the American's over here or you will be driven insane by those voices
Given the circumstances we find ourselves in I am going to take a slightly different approach to the review this week. As opposed to selecting a single subject to critique, I thought it would be more helpful to pick out five 5-star (IMO) hidden gems freely accessible online, which can be enjoyed at home.
I've tried to mix it up a bit, taking in a classic kids TV series, an amazing speech, a great documentary, magnificent opera, and tip top pod.
I'm sure some PBers can themselves suggest other things of interest.
I am quite enjoying Monk on Amazon Prime at the moment. Think autistic Colombo with OCD, in San Fran. Each episode is stand alone and contains a crime mystery, so it’s an engaging way to spend chunks of 45 minutes.
Bones from the same source is also engaging and there are hundreds (quite literally) of episodes.
Health officials in New York City and Los Angeles County are signaling a change in local strategy when it comes to coronavirus testing, recommending that doctors avoid testing patients except in cases where a test result would significantly change the course of treatment.
That's the anti-Korea strategy, the "we don't want to know" strategy, the "oh please go around spreading CV-19" strategy.
Not all businesses are suffering. Try buying home gym equipment.
Just ordered a Peloton! I'm told it will arrive April 2nd. I won't be shocked if it doesn't...
Is that the one where you get stung for 40 quid a month so you can pretend you are cycling with a bunch of freaks and some whiny bint prattles on in a high pitched squeaky voice
Given the circumstances we find ourselves in I am going to take a slightly different approach to the review this week. As opposed to selecting a single subject to critique, I thought it would be more helpful to pick out five 5-star (IMO) hidden gems freely accessible online, which can be enjoyed at home.
I've tried to mix it up a bit, taking in a classic kids TV series, an amazing speech, a great documentary, magnificent opera, and tip top pod.
I'm sure some PBers can themselves suggest other things of interest.
I am quite enjoying Monk on Amazon Prime at the moment. Think autistic Colombo with OCD, in San Fran. Each episode is stand alone and contains a crime mystery, so it’s an engaging way to spend chunks of 45 minutes.
Bones from the same source is also engaging and there are hundreds (quite literally) of episodes.
I've recently discovered Newsroom. Its really enjoyable. Good old Sorkin!
The blob talks a lot about the other 148 countries and all the governors and what they are doing, not so much about his tremendous success. The messaging seems to change.
Not all businesses are suffering. Try buying home gym equipment.
Just ordered a Peloton! I'm told it will arrive April 2nd. I won't be shocked if it doesn't...
Is that the one where you get stung for 40 quid a month so you can pretend you are cycling with a bunch of freaks and some whiny bint prattles on in a high pitched squeaky voice
The blob talks a lot about the other 148 countries and all the governors and what they are doing, not so much about his tremendous success. The messaging seems to change.
A lot of things he’s banking as being the first President in history to do.
They've closed the stores because they don't have any customers.
Admitted JLP is not quite like other companies, but they wouldn't keep staff (sorry: "partners") for long if they didn't have the revenue to pay them
It's more like that it's an example of Sunak's policy working.
Maybe they were going to close on Monday with or without the package. That is possible. I did say that JL was only a possible example of what I'm saying.
But you do get my general points, I'm sure -
1. The package will make closing a no-brainer decision for some businesses that otherwise would have struggled on for a while.
2. There is scope for abuse by businesses that are not seriously struggling.
And to be clear, I raise this purely for interest, not because I oppose the package.
Restriced number of entries coupled with announcement of sunday's closures and rumours on weekend's bans....ended up with these situations in front of Milan supermarkers (but it was the same in other cities) yesterday
Given the circumstances we find ourselves in I am going to take a slightly different approach to the review this week. As opposed to selecting a single subject to critique, I thought it would be more helpful to pick out five 5-star (IMO) hidden gems freely accessible online, which can be enjoyed at home.
I've tried to mix it up a bit, taking in a classic kids TV series, an amazing speech, a great documentary, magnificent opera, and tip top pod.
I'm sure some PBers can themselves suggest other things of interest.
I am quite enjoying Monk on Amazon Prime at the moment. Think autistic Colombo with OCD, in San Fran. Each episode is stand alone and contains a crime mystery, so it’s an engaging way to spend chunks of 45 minutes.
Bones from the same source is also engaging and there are hundreds (quite literally) of episodes.
I've recently discovered Newsroom. Its really enjoyable. Good old Sorkin!
Yes, I really enjoyed it. Sadly, got canned after two, or maybe three series.
God he is back on the corporate advertising. Trump should wear a suit jacket with all the corporate logos on each time he does a press conference, so he doesn't need to waste time name checking them all.
We've got 8 fantastic days of weather ahead. Plenty of time to grab a few cold drinks and sunbathe.
What are you calling fantastic weather? We had about three weeks with max temp 23/24 but there is no evidence it has made a difference. Someone did say they thought the virus killing temp was 27
The blob talks a lot about the other 148 countries and all the governors and what they are doing, not so much about his tremendous success. The messaging seems to change.
A lot of things he’s banking as being the first President in history to do.
Driven by circumstances, against previous messaging. Looks defensive and increasingly weak.
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/han/advisory/2020/covid-19-03202020.pdf To preserve PPE for HCW providing medically necessary care for hospitalized patients, the NYC Health Department is directing healthcare facilities to IMMEDIATELY STOP TESTING NON-HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS FOR COVID-19 unless test results will impact the clinical management of the patient. In addition, do not test asymptomatic people, including HCWs or first responders. COVID-19 testing is only indicated for HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS....
Similar shortage of PPE to us.
Earlier this week the AVMA banned all non-emergency treatments in vet clinics to preserve PPE.
We've got 8 fantastic days of weather ahead. Plenty of time to grab a few cold drinks and sunbathe.
What are you calling fantastic weather? We had about three weeks with max temp 23/24 but there is no evidence it has made a difference. Someone did say they thought the virus killing temp was 27
I think he just meant self isolating in the garden would be quite pleasant
I run a (largely online) business. More orders since 5pm last night than in the whole of the previous 4 days put together.
I think people were incredibly reassured by the statement made yesterday. Despite some in the media stirring the pot.
Great. As I say, I'm not slagging it off. I'm just thinking of how it might play out in certain situations. People wanted to hear something big and reassuring. They heard something big and reassuring.
Restriced number of entries coupled with announcement of sunday's closures and rumours on weekend's bans....ended up with these situations in front of Milan supermarkers (but it was the same in other cities) yesterday
Restriced number of entries coupled with announcement of sunday's closures and rumours on weekend's bans....ended up with these situations in front of Milan supermarkers (but it was the same in other cities) yesterday
We've had this in Spain for the past week - very well organised and orderly - some gaps on the shelves but still plenty of options.
We had the problems on the shelves on the first couple of days when the crisis was only in Codogno and co and there was some panic buying and supermarkets not ready for it. I went last Thursday and there was no problem in the shelves. I took half an hour to get in because they obviously allow only a certain number of people in at the same time. I managed to order it online last week...it will arrive next Tuesday. I bought enough last week to cope until the online order arrives.
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/han/advisory/2020/covid-19-03202020.pdf To preserve PPE for HCW providing medically necessary care for hospitalized patients, the NYC Health Department is directing healthcare facilities to IMMEDIATELY STOP TESTING NON-HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS FOR COVID-19 unless test results will impact the clinical management of the patient. In addition, do not test asymptomatic people, including HCWs or first responders. COVID-19 testing is only indicated for HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS....
Similar shortage of PPE to us.
Earlier this week the AVMA banned all non-emergency treatments in vet clinics to preserve PPE.
We've got 8 fantastic days of weather ahead. Plenty of time to grab a few cold drinks and sunbathe.
What are you calling fantastic weather? We had about three weeks with max temp 23/24 but there is no evidence it has made a difference. Someone did say they thought the virus killing temp was 27
I think he just meant self isolating in the garden would be quite pleasant
Well it’s shit here at the moment cold, 14 and wet and another two or three days of it.
At what point can I suggest to my wife that we eat the dog?
I was reading an account of the Lewis & Clark expedition recently; during their hard times they got to eat all manner of animals, yet they said dog was what they enjoyed the most.
I think we have tried with the nudge. We have tried with information. We will try with the shaming. Ultimately we might try force but I fear there are no resources in the country to apply the necessary force.
Observing my fairly middle class neighbours operating today. They don't have a clue.
I’m amazed by how many are going in the largest supermarkets where social distancing is impossible. Largest shop in town centre where I am is Waitrose. Jam packed. Reasonably sized Tesco Metro two minutes away. Relatively empty and no queues at tills. Some shortages (as there are everywhere) but more than enough to do a decent shop.
We've got 8 fantastic days of weather ahead. Plenty of time to grab a few cold drinks and sunbathe.
What are you calling fantastic weather? We had about three weeks with max temp 23/24 but there is no evidence it has made a difference. Someone did say they thought the virus killing temp was 27
I think he just meant self isolating in the garden would be quite pleasant
Well it’s shit here at the moment cold, 14 and wet and another two or three days of it.
Currently positive:: 42.681 (+4.821 net) including UCI 2.857 (+202 net) Deaths: 4.825 (+793) Healed: 6.072 (+943)
So 6557 new cases
Do you know how many tests there were yesterday?
Total this evening is 233,222 It was 206,866 yesterday
Long time lurker, rather nervously typing....
This means the fraction of positive cases has remained constant the last couple of days, right? Also, the number of tests in Lombardy doubled in the last 24h (from 4931 to 9555), meaning the fraction of positive tests there actually fell from 50% to 33%.
I think we have tried with the nudge. We have tried with information. We will try with the shaming. Ultimately we might try force but I fear there are no resources in the country to apply the necessary force.
I fear it might be every man for himself.
Telling everyone that they're morally to blame for what is, in many cases, trying to adapt to everyone else's demand, will achieve nothing. You have to hammer home the message that if we all might have a rational reasons for wanting more than usual, we all have to do that very gradually, otherwise we all lose out. Shaming people in a society like Britain's will achieve nothing and make them tune out ; that may have its own implications, but that is the daily reality.
If trying to hammer home a more civic culture of some European countries doesn't work in a short space of time, the government may have to impose limits and try and police them, however difficult that will be.
They've closed the stores because they don't have any customers.
Admitted JLP is not quite like other companies, but they wouldn't keep staff (sorry: "partners") for long if they didn't have the revenue to pay them
It's more like that it's an example of Sunak's policy working.
Maybe they were going to close on Monday with or without the package. That is possible. I did say that JL was only a possible example of what I'm saying.
But you do get my general points, I'm sure -
1. The package will make closing a no-brainer decision for some businesses that otherwise would have struggled on for a while.
2. There is scope for abuse by businesses that are not seriously struggling.
And to be clear, I raise this purely for interest, not because I oppose the package.
A business that is not "seriously struggling" would rather have people remain in employment and working. It might trim back individuals, but if it decided to do that then it wouldn't be interested in a 3 month option to keep them on. Retail stores or others that have no revenues in this situation simply would have to fire people, which is what the package avoids.
total is 53k because it is the sum of currently positive + deaths + healed
Ah thank you! People usually quote "Total cases" - that's what threw me!
Watching the US Press Conference - this shuffling back and forth to the single lectern makes the Downing St Press conferences look polished and professional.
Currently positive:: 42.681 (+4.821 net) including UCI 2.857 (+202 net) Deaths: 4.825 (+793) Healed: 6.072 (+943)
So 6557 new cases
Do you know how many tests there were yesterday?
Total this evening is 233,222 It was 206,866 yesterday
Long time lurker, rather nervously typing....
This means the fraction of positive cases has remained constant the last couple of days, right? Also, the number of tests in Lombardy doubled in the last 24h (from 4931 to 9555), meaning the fraction of positive tests there actually fell from 50% to 33%.
Ecstatic that I managed to locate a pc monitor on line today
I wasn't aware there were mass shortages.
Out of stock everywhere. In London anyway.
I wanted a monitor as now WAH full time - in the 10 mins between me sourcing 2 monitors and being approved they had gone - In the end I purchased one and got authority afterwards - each obviously more expensive than the last
This means the fraction of positive cases has remained constant the last couple of days, right?
The positive% each day is climbing but not too steeply. Start of the month it was 20%ish, now it's maybe 27%ish (during which period the number of daily tests has increased near ten-fold).
For comparison, the UK figure is maybe around 10% now. Spain's is over 50%.
We've got 8 fantastic days of weather ahead. Plenty of time to grab a few cold drinks and sunbathe.
What are you calling fantastic weather? We had about three weeks with max temp 23/24 but there is no evidence it has made a difference. Someone did say they thought the virus killing temp was 27
I think he just meant self isolating in the garden would be quite pleasant
Well it’s shit here at the moment cold, 14 and wet and another two or three days of it.
From Italy, one big negative out of today's numbers, and two small positives.
The big negative is new cases continue to climb in Lombardy and Veneto, despite those being the earliest places to implement lockdowns. Lombardy saw (if my nunbers are correct, which they may not ne) 3,251 new cases which is 50% above the pace of the last few days. Veneto increased 586 new cases, which is a small increase from 547 the previous day.
The small positives are:
- across all of Italy we continued to see a gentle slowing in the number infected. It increased 14% from the previous day. This has been gradually trending down over the past two weeks from the 30s. But, of course, off much bigger bases each time.
- at least some of the increase in infections is due to the Italians doing much, much more testing. In the last two days, the number tested has risen from (and again excuse my maths here) 17,000 to 33,000. This means the proportion testing positive has gone from 30% to 20%.
At what point can I suggest to my wife that we eat the dog?
I was reading an account of the Lewis & Clark expedition recently; during their hard times they got to eat all manner of animals, yet they said dog was what they enjoyed the most.
Currently positive:: 42.681 (+4.821 net) including UCI 2.857 (+202 net) Deaths: 4.825 (+793) Healed: 6.072 (+943)
So 6557 new cases
Do you know how many tests there were yesterday?
Total this evening is 233,222 It was 206,866 yesterday
Long time lurker, rather nervously typing....
This means the fraction of positive cases has remained constant the last couple of days, right? Also, the number of tests in Lombardy doubled in the last 24h (from 4931 to 9555), meaning the fraction of positive tests there actually fell from 50% to 33%.
They've closed the stores because they don't have any customers.
Admitted JLP is not quite like other companies, but they wouldn't keep staff (sorry: "partners") for long if they didn't have the revenue to pay them
It's more like that it's an example of Sunak's policy working.
Maybe they were going to close on Monday with or without the package. That is possible. I did say that JL was only a possible example of what I'm saying.
But you do get my general points, I'm sure -
1. The package will make closing a no-brainer decision for some businesses that otherwise would have struggled on for a while.
2. There is scope for abuse by businesses that are not seriously struggling.
And to be clear, I raise this purely for interest, not because I oppose the package.
A business that is not "seriously struggling" would rather have people remain in employment and working. It might trim back individuals, but if it decided to do that then it wouldn't be interested in a 3 month option to keep them on. Retail stores or others that have no revenues in this situation simply would have to fire people, which is what the package avoids.
I imagine John Lewis are shifting a lot of staff to Waitrose.
Also, whilst I have great sympathy for the situation many self employed find themselves in, there are companies (most obviously supermarkets) creating jobs that people can apply for. They shouldn’t just expect the Govt to solve everything. God knows what the Govt does if there’s a repeat of what is happening now in winter.
Currently positive:: 42.681 (+4.821 net) including UCI 2.857 (+202 net) Deaths: 4.825 (+793) Healed: 6.072 (+943)
So 6557 new cases
Do you know how many tests there were yesterday?
Total this evening is 233,222 It was 206,866 yesterday
Long time lurker, rather nervously typing....
This means the fraction of positive cases has remained constant the last couple of days, right? Also, the number of tests in Lombardy doubled in the last 24h (from 4931 to 9555), meaning the fraction of positive tests there actually fell from 50% to 33%.
Currently positive:: 42.681 (+4.821 net) including UCI 2.857 (+202 net) Deaths: 4.825 (+793) Healed: 6.072 (+943)
So 6557 new cases
Do you know how many tests there were yesterday?
Total this evening is 233,222 It was 206,866 yesterday
Long time lurker, rather nervously typing....
This means the fraction of positive cases has remained constant the last couple of days, right? Also, the number of tests in Lombardy doubled in the last 24h (from 4931 to 9555), meaning the fraction of positive tests there actually fell from 50% to 33%.
From Italy, one big negative out of today's numbers, and two small positives.
The big negative is new cases continue to climb in Lombardy and Veneto, despite those being the earliest places to implement lockdowns. Lombardy saw (if my nunbers are correct, which they may not ne) 3,251 new cases which is 50% above the pace of the last few days. Veneto increased 586 new cases, which is a small increase from 547 the previous day.
The small positives are:
- across all of Italy we continued to see a gentle slowing in the number infected. It increased 14% from the previous day. This has been gradually trending down over the past two weeks from the 30s. But, of course, off much bigger bases each time.
- at least some of the increase in infections is due to the Italians doing much, much more testing. In the last two days, the number tested has risen from (and again excuse my maths here) 17,000 to 33,000. This means the proportion testing positive has gone from 30% to 20%.
I do wonder if total lockdowns have the potential to be counterproductive, at least in the short term. Because it basically ensures that (especially in small flats) whole families/groups living together will be infected whereas before they may have previously had a fair level of distancing and/or non operation of “common” hours etc
I have found a packet of unopened spaghetti in the cupboard, use by dated 2014.
At what price should I start the bidding?
I can beat that. I have a packet of Lasagne best by 2006 and another use by 2009. I'm working backwards from one dated 2016 which I cooked and ate two days ago. Delicious.
A business that is not "seriously struggling" would rather have people remain in employment and working. It might trim back individuals, but if it decided to do that then it wouldn't be interested in a 3 month option to keep them on. Retail stores or others that have no revenues in this situation simply would have to fire people, which is what the package avoids.
That will no doubt cover most scenarios. I'm not saying otherwise. I'm postulating a couple of other scenarios that will probably also occur.
1. A business that would have struggled on for a while without the package decides instead to close now for at least 3 months.
2. A business not struggling that has people WFH due to the crisis re-designates them as being on furlough due to the crisis, thus unlocking the 80%
Comments
1. Will partially explain the rush of business closures we are about to see.
2. Is a loophole that businesses who are NOT struggling can exploit.
Is that not extremely interesting?
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I know there are cheaper ways of doing the same thing, but as an iPhone user I find it reassuringly expensive.
I think people were incredibly reassured by the statement made yesterday. Despite some in the media stirring the pot.
They've closed the stores because they don't have any customers.
Admitted JLP is not quite like other companies, but they wouldn't keep staff (sorry: "partners") for long if they didn't have the revenue to pay them
It's more like that it's an example of Sunak's policy working.
I'm not sure it will pan out well.
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1241409104645476352?s=20
The messaging seems to change.
https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1241405397606584321?s=20
But you do get my general points, I'm sure -
1. The package will make closing a no-brainer decision for some businesses that otherwise would have struggled on for a while.
2. There is scope for abuse by businesses that are not seriously struggling.
And to be clear, I raise this purely for interest, not because I oppose the package.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43BXI4fo5mI
But we are orderly!
Currently positive:: 42.681 (+4.821 net)
including UCI 2.857 (+202 net)
Deaths: 4.825 (+793)
Healed: 6.072 (+943)
So 6557 new cases
It was 206,866 yesterday
But I think we will be worse than them all.
Observing my fairly middle class neighbours operating today. They don't have a clue.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
I went last Thursday and there was no problem in the shelves. I took half an hour to get in because they obviously allow only a certain number of people in at the same time.
I managed to order it online last week...it will arrive next Tuesday. I bought enough last week to cope until the online order arrives.
https://twitter.com/bianca_nobilo/status/1241117231481749504?s=09
I think we have tried with the nudge. We have tried with information. We will try with the shaming. Ultimately we might try force but I fear there are no resources in the country to apply the necessary force.
I fear it might be every man for himself.
This means the fraction of positive cases has remained constant the last couple of days, right? Also, the number of tests in Lombardy doubled in the last 24h (from 4931 to 9555), meaning the fraction of positive tests there actually fell from 50% to 33%.
If trying to hammer home a more civic culture of some European countries doesn't work in a short space of time, the government may have to impose limits and try and police them, however difficult that will be.
At what price should I start the bidding?
Watching the US Press Conference - this shuffling back and forth to the single lectern makes the Downing St Press conferences look polished and professional.
The positive% each day is climbing but not too steeply. Start of the month it was 20%ish, now it's maybe 27%ish (during which period the number of daily tests has increased near ten-fold).
For comparison, the UK figure is maybe around 10% now. Spain's is over 50%.
The big negative is new cases continue to climb in Lombardy and Veneto, despite those being the earliest places to implement lockdowns. Lombardy saw (if my nunbers are correct, which they may not ne) 3,251 new cases which is 50% above the pace of the last few days. Veneto increased 586 new cases, which is a small increase from 547 the previous day.
The small positives are:
- across all of Italy we continued to see a gentle slowing in the number infected. It increased 14% from the previous day. This has been gradually trending down over the past two weeks from the 30s. But, of course, off much bigger bases each time.
- at least some of the increase in infections is due to the Italians doing much, much more testing. In the last two days, the number tested has risen from (and again excuse my maths here) 17,000 to 33,000. This means the proportion testing positive has gone from 30% to 20%.
Draw your own conclusions.
* (although once @rcs1000 finishes the dog...)
Come on, serious bidders only...
Also, whilst I have great sympathy for the situation many self employed find themselves in, there are companies (most obviously supermarkets) creating jobs that people can apply for. They shouldn’t just expect the Govt to solve everything. God knows what the Govt does if there’s a repeat of what is happening now in winter.
I happen to be a vegetarian
1. A business that would have struggled on for a while without the package decides instead to close now for at least 3 months.
2. A business not struggling that has people WFH due to the crisis re-designates them as being on furlough due to the crisis, thus unlocking the 80%
Yes?