For many years the leftist journalist most worth reading has been John Harris. That won’t change.
Won't find any argument from me over that. His "Anywhere But Westminster" is extremely good. He manages to put his own politics to one side and ask the whys?
Turn-out 67% so far...so again total horse-shit about voting rush.
All that guff about registration too.
Except that there really was a late registration rush and there really were queues to vote. Whether there were regional variations, or we should question the lazy assumption these were all or even mainly Labour voters, can wait.
But turn-out isn't up. And registration increase was basically inline with population increase (and as I said numerous times, lots of uni now auto-enroll all students).
And queues were because people didn’t want to vote in the dark and had Xmas parties to go to.
Turn-out 67% so far...so again total horse-shit about voting rush.
All that guff about registration too.
Except that there really was a late registration rush and there really were queues to vote. Whether there were regional variations, or we should question the lazy assumption these were all or even mainly Labour voters, can wait.
But turn-out isn't up. And registration increase was basically inline with population increase (and as I said numerous times, lots of uni now auto-enroll all students).
And queues were because people didn’t want to vote in the dark and had Xmas parties to go to.
Those may have been factors but there were queues when I voted in the dark.
I'll be proven wrong in future on a bunch of stuff, so I'm going to take a brief moment now to stress that my posts earlier today disparaging election day rumours as meaningless guesswork was right this time. Take this beauty, for example, with 4k retweets from a verified journalist. And the Betfair swings against a Tory majority based on them.
Perhaps this has all been said already, but it's interesting that - while the final YouGov MRP doesn't look particularly good in the light of the results - if it had been released a day earlier it would have been spot on in terms of Tory vote share and only about a dozen out in terms of Tory seats.
Final Scotland seats results seem to be: SNP 48 CON 6 LD 4 LAB 1
Basically it's a LAB-SNP swing of 8% and little else, apart from Swinson but that was Swinson.
Tories probably two below expectation and Labour one below. Not really a seismic result.
Tories were a few hundred away in Gordon, which would have made it 7 Scottish seats for them and a unionist buffer stretching along the border and right round the east coast. I reckon they'd have been pretty happy with 7. Six is okay.
The fact that Labour have narrowly stayed above 200 seats is bad news for those who want to get rid of Corbyn and McDonnell. It just looks better than one hundred and something even if it had been 199.
For all of Labour's losses, it's notable that there hasn't really been a big name defeated. I know more high profile MPs tend to have safer seats, but some of the seats they've lost were fairly safe. It's not healthy for them the top of their party has become dominated by those in big cities.
For all of Labour's losses, it's notable that there hasn't really been a big name defeated. I know more high profile MPs tend to have safer seats, but some of the seats they've lost were fairly safe. It's not healthy for them the top of their party has become dominated by those in big cities.
For all of Labour's losses, it's notable that there hasn't really been a big name defeated. I know more high profile MPs tend to have safer seats, but some of the seats they've lost were fairly safe. It's not healthy for them the top of their party has become dominated by those in big cities.
The fact that Labour have narrowly stayed above 200 seats is bad news for those who want to get rid of Corbyn and McDonnell. It just looks better than one hundred and something even if it had been 199.
Imagine what the electoral map of the 80s and 90s would have been if Foot had remained leader after 1983...
How many of the 2015 LD survivors are still in parliament? Farron and Carmichael(if he wins)?
Very few of those who voted LD in 2015 are voting LD in this election, they have retained only half of their past vote each of the last 3 elections according to the polls. They only remain stable because newcomers from other parties fill the gap.
For all of Labour's losses, it's notable that there hasn't really been a big name defeated. I know more high profile MPs tend to have safer seats, but some of the seats they've lost were fairly safe. It's not healthy for them the top of their party has become dominated by those in big cities.
For all of Labour's losses, it's notable that there hasn't really been a big name defeated. I know more high profile MPs tend to have safer seats, but some of the seats they've lost were fairly safe. It's not healthy for them the top of their party has become dominated by those in big cities.
Pidcock probably the biggest scalp.
Ha! I'd forgotten about her. ITV didn't mention her when showing notable casualties. I guess she's not that much of a household name.
For all of Labour's losses, it's notable that there hasn't really been a big name defeated. I know more high profile MPs tend to have safer seats, but some of the seats they've lost were fairly safe. It's not healthy for them the top of their party has become dominated by those in big cities.
I suppose that, at the end of the night and after all the talk of Portillo moments, it's kind of fitting that the decapitee turned out to be the leader of the Revoke Party. And now the Liberal Democrats are projected to end up with one seat fewer than they won in 2017 - and Tim Farron is the last survivor in the country between Oxford and Edinburgh. Where they're meant to go from here, who knows?
Wooden-headed Labour looks at imminent risk of going to war with itself, as the Momentum wing tries to buy time to push Corbyn Mk2 upon what's left of the PLP, and upon the nation.
Meanwhile, Boris Johnson wins an immense landslide victory in England, Nicola Sturgeon does likewise in Scotland, and the breakup of Britain once again looms upon the horizon.
I would love to believe Boris has a plan to win over Scotland, draw it back from the brink of indy other than just saying no to them, and that that plan will work, but I cannot. He's proven me very wrong before, so I hope he will again.
I would love to believe Boris has a plan to win over Scotland, draw it back from the brink of indy other than just saying no to them, and that that plan will work, but I cannot. He's proven me very wrong before, so I hope he will again.
The fact that Labour have narrowly stayed above 200 seats is bad news for those who want to get rid of Corbyn and McDonnell. It just looks better than one hundred and something even if it had been 199.
They did better than 2010 and 2015 in terms of votes, better than Kinnock in 1987. But Boris did better than Thatcher on that measure.
There are a lot of miserable people on the left (Berry the latest on the BBC) who are coming dangerously close to saying the people are idiots for voting the way they did.
I would love to believe Boris has a plan to win over Scotland, draw it back from the brink of indy other than just saying no to them, and that that plan will work, but I cannot. He's proven me very wrong before, so I hope he will again.
What's he actually meant to do? The Unionist vote in Scotland is hopelessly split. If we somehow end up with Indyref2 *AND* the No campaign wins it again, Indyref3 will simply follow in a few years' time.
Given Jezza's campaign trail, do we think Labour knew they were in for a shell-laking or they had no clue about anything?
Anecdotes on Twitter from 'sources' suggest they thought they'd done enough for a hung parliament.
We were also informed by certain Labourites on here that Corbyn had some magical, super secret oracle MRP up his sleeve that was guiding him efficiently to the seats he needed to be in.
I think they were making it up as they were going along.
Given Jezza's campaign trail, do we think Labour knew they were in for a shell-laking or they had no clue about anything?
Anecdotes on Twitter from 'sources' suggest they thought they'd done enough for a hung parliament.
We were also informed by certain Labourites on here that Corbyn had some mystyical oracle MRP up his sleeve that was guiding him efficiently to the seats he needed to be in.
I think they were making it up as they were going along.
Look forward to Dr Moderate’s next polling conspiracy in 2024
Labour deserves to lose this badly. The country did not deserve to have these conscienceless spivs inflicted on them for the foreseeable future. One more ratchet down in the spiral of decline.
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And now you've found a break to make at last
You've got to find a way
Say what you want to say
Brake out
https://twitter.com/jubileeline/status/1205357932680007680?s=20
SNP 48
CON 6
LD 4
LAB 1
Basically it's a LAB-SNP swing of 8% and little else, apart from Swinson but that was Swinson.
Lab manifesto was just telling poor people we'll give them free things.
https://twitter.com/ljayes/status/1205205524352045056
The SNP underperformed the Exit Poll, I always thought that the SNP can not win all seats on just 44% of the vote.
Con 28,430
LD 27,445
Lab 2,723
JACP 292
Con 26,171
Lab 24,618
LD 2,406
Grn 1,060
Only consolations: Labour humiliated; SNP underwhelms; DUP damaged.
A whole book could / must be written on the pisspoor Lib Dem campaign.
They only remain stable because newcomers from other parties fill the gap.
Pidders loss a blow to the Corbynista ultras.
I suppose that, at the end of the night and after all the talk of Portillo moments, it's kind of fitting that the decapitee turned out to be the leader of the Revoke Party. And now the Liberal Democrats are projected to end up with one seat fewer than they won in 2017 - and Tim Farron is the last survivor in the country between Oxford and Edinburgh. Where they're meant to go from here, who knows?
Wooden-headed Labour looks at imminent risk of going to war with itself, as the Momentum wing tries to buy time to push Corbyn Mk2 upon what's left of the PLP, and upon the nation.
Meanwhile, Boris Johnson wins an immense landslide victory in England, Nicola Sturgeon does likewise in Scotland, and the breakup of Britain once again looms upon the horizon.
Where will we find ourselves by 2024, I wonder?
Lab 18,390
Con 16,044
BRX 2,819
LD 1,505
Grn 983
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000588
But Boris did better than Thatcher on that measure.
Buckingham yet?
https://twitter.com/JosephineCumbo/status/1205357163146817536?s=20
Not a great look.
The Union is finished. It's done.
I think they were making it up as they were going along.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16BjKMutz0rNyU7jqyH-S0VTcYPwhp-fGD5z73s-5YoA