Do Labour not think this "the evil Tories, what about the homeless yadda yadda yadda"...basically you are telling voters you were wrong, you are heartless for voting for the other team.
Blair won on slogans like "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" and "education, education, education".
Bland slogans, anyone could have won in 1997. Who could have won in 1987 is the more propper question ?
Corbyn and McDonnell wouldn't have won in 1997.
Against Major after the post 1992 mess ? They almost beat May under better conditions for the Consevatives. They could have beaten May in an election now.
That was a different age. JC and JMD have benefitted from social media in a way they couldn't have done then. TB was just continuation tory for the first term.
Did we ever think when we saw Boris Johnson bumbling through his appearances on Have I Got News For You that he would one day be the Tory leader who would deliver their biggest majority since Thatcher?
Do Labour not think this "the evil Tories, what about the homeless yadda yadda yadda"...basically you are telling voters you were wrong, you are heartless for voting for the other team.
Blair won on slogans like "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" and "education, education, education".
Bland slogans, anyone could have won in 1997. Who could have won in 1987 is the more propper question ?
Corbyn and McDonnell wouldn't have won in 1997.
Against Major after the post 1992 mess ? They almost beat May under better conditions for the Consevatives. They could have beaten May in an election now.
In 1997 many more people had memories of the 1970s. That's why it took someone like Blair to seal the deal. I'd say 2017 was the perfect storm for Corbyn and McDonnell.
Labour were leading massively since late 1992 before Blair took over. The Conservatives were disintegrating over scandals, europe, economic mismanagement and leadership.
I don't like to be premature, but I'm now prepared to accept that there is the slight possibility that this is not 2017 again.
And being serious, I would never have predicted that if there was a big majority, which was certainly looking possible, it would be down to the Red Wall being crumbly enough that a crappy outcome in Scotland was overcome.
Like many others I am very concerned about the Union - I had thought at least one positive of a big majority would be the SNP not having a very very good night.
Did we ever think when we saw Boris Johnson bumbling through his appearances on Have I Got News For You that he would one day be the Tory leader who would deliver their biggest majority since Thatcher?
The authors of this book must be feeling pretty stupid right about now...
We did better in Totnes than I had expected - 12,700 majority versus my 8,888 sweepstake entry. That said, we really worked hard to find our vote in a constituency that covers 250 sq. miles.
I don't like to be premature, but I'm now prepared to accept that there is the slight possibility that this is not 2017 again.
And being serious, I would never have predicted that if there was a big majority, which was certainly looking possible, it would be down to the Red Wall being crumbly enough that a crappy outcome in Scotland was overcome.
Like many others I am very concerned about the Union - I had thought at least one positive of a big majority would be the SNP not having a very very good night.
In the past 3 elections when the Consevatives are popular in England and Wales they are unpopular in Scotland and vice versa.
We did better in Totnes than I had expected - 12,700 majority versus my 8,888 sweepstake entry. That said, we really worked hard to find our vote in a constituency that covers 250 sq. miles.
cheers for the reports from there Mark. I got on early at 11/8 partly thanks to your information.
All three Scottish borders seats hold for the Tories.
Tory Scottish seat total up to FOUR.
About what I thought they'd get at the start of the campaign, but the regional polls, such as they were, looked pretty decent for non-SNP. Alas, not the case.
We did better in Totnes than I had expected - 12,700 majority versus my 8,888 sweepstake entry. That said, we really worked hard to find our vote in a constituency that covers 250 sq. miles.
cheers for the reports from there Mark. I got on early at 11/8 partly thanks to your information.
We did better in Totnes than I had expected - 12,700 majority versus my 8,888 sweepstake entry. That said, we really worked hard to find our vote in a constituency that covers 250 sq. miles.
Well done Marquee for all your feed back. Thank you
Well, there are two more SNP gains from the LD they're "expecting" from the exit poll: CS&ER and O&S. The first is probably odds on for them, the second is - I suspect - unlikely.
We did better in Totnes than I had expected - 12,700 majority versus my 8,888 sweepstake entry. That said, we really worked hard to find our vote in a constituency that covers 250 sq. miles.
Congratulations and thanks for all your hard work!
The irony is that, if her constituents had known the likely result in the rest of the country, she would probably have been elected with a decent majority.
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Did we ever think when we saw Boris Johnson bumbling through his appearances on Have I Got News For You that he would one day be the Tory leader who would deliver their biggest majority since Thatcher?
The Conservatives were disintegrating over scandals, europe, economic mismanagement and leadership.
And being serious, I would never have predicted that if there was a big majority, which was certainly looking possible, it would be down to the Red Wall being crumbly enough that a crappy outcome in Scotland was overcome.
Like many others I am very concerned about the Union - I had thought at least one positive of a big majority would be the SNP not having a very very good night.
Cons 359
Labour 203
LD 12
SNP 53
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000662
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13160423-prime-minister-boris-and-other-things-that-never-happened
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50770931?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central&ns_campaign=bbc_politics
TY to TSE and other moderators and all participators!
a gain?
no, a hold.
Didn't expect that. I thought that was by far the most vulnerable LD seat in Scotland.
I want what she's drinking
CON 44
LAB 33
LD 11
UNS
CON 357
LAB 214
LD 18
UNS is again very reliable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Grundy_(politician) Shame. She has taken huge amounts of crap and did not deserve it.
That is impossible - already Con 5, LD 2, Lab 1
So max SNP 51 if win all rest
The irony is that, if her constituents had known the likely result in the rest of the country, she would probably have been elected with a decent majority.
Meanwhile, Lord Mann is truly excellent.
They hit the pavements, and the SNP got 56/59 at the next election.
It's won in the ground game, and you need to know your stuff. You can't just descend with a rent a crowd, and run about like headless chickens.
MRP in theory gives you which seats are going to change hands and the number of seats.
Another over rated hack. His show is unwatchable.
Passed 326 seats