No one can know. At this moment we could have 70% voting Labour or 70% voting Tory and no one would have a clue. We just have to wait until 10pm. These market movements ae not driven by any inside knowledge.
No. Although I've heard nasty stories from no less a source than the BBC that the postals are especially good for the Tories. Wonder what happens if they lose the proper vote but win just purely because of people doing it early by mail? Do we get to know the split even?
How are you calling it btw?
Excuse me, and with respect what on earth is this proper vote. A postal vote for us oldies is a proper vote, and for many others who cannot get to the polls who may be disabled
Sorry but that is not really acceptable
I dont agree with the previous poster but acceptable is the wrong word imo. They are allowed their thoughts on what is and isnt a proper vote.
I would prefer voting at weekends, voting for residents who have been here 5+ years but dont happen to have the right flavour passport, but others dont want that.
I fail to see why people shouldnt be able to express their disdain for certain categories of voting, when in reality everyone has some view on who should be able to vote and how.
Maybe but many would be disenfranchised if they could not postal vote
Many are disenfranchised by no weekend voting, or by not having the right flavour passport.
7 AM - 10 PM, nobody is disenfranchised. If you can't find 30 mins to vote, you don't want to.
Boris taking his dog to the polling station is clever electioneering. He’s appearing all over the shop.
Wtf? "I really wish I could decide how to vote. Oh, wait, Boris is taking his dog to the polling station. That settles it - I'm voting for the dog!"
Obviously such things are not designed to cause somebody to suddenly switch their view, they're part of the ongoing process of building an image or brand, or just getting more visibility.
He is referring to all makers of bullshit products
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
Been good reading your posts. Shame we won't be seeing you again after 10PM.
No offence but it's amazing how much can be written based on nothing concrete.
It reminds me of 1997 in Mitcham & Morden. Tory canvassers there were convinced they were going to buck the national trend and increase their slim majority. In fact they suffered an enormous defeat on a huge swing, and the Labour MP is still there today.
Absolutely. Has there ever been an election before where the polls averaged a 10% lead and you could get 1.48 for a majority? Staggering, but I think nobody is taking anything for granted yet.
Well I would lump on if I wasn't already positioned that way for a slightly scary amount. Will the Cons REALLY pick up a ton of WC Labour seats though? When those people are in the ballot box will they actually go ahead and do it? Is Brexit so important to them as to risk being called class traitors by their nearest and dearest?
Not in big cities, not at all.
But, in smaller urban areas in the North and Midlands, the drift away from Labour has been taking place over a long time. It's rather like the way people refused to believe, pre-1997, that places like Leeds NE, Leeds NW, Bristol West, Edinburgh Pentlands, Birmingham Edgbaston were on the point of voting Labour, simply because they never had done before.
It’s strange as a Labour supporter I’ve already accepted a Tory majority and so aren’t stressed at all ! It seems the Tory supporters in here seem convinced that it might be a 2017 repeat .
I even wrote a piece on how this isn't 2017 which I'm starting to get the willies about !
Very funny ! As much as I’d like it to be a 2017 repeat I can’t see it happening .
I think I can understand though how some Tory supporters are suffering an emotional rollercoaster . I think the problem is what sort of lead guarantees a majority .
There might be more tactical voting this time , and even with a big lead the situation in Scotland is complicated.
We don’t really know about turnout barring these reports from people at some of the polling stations , I suspect though it will be higher in Remain areas but because the Tories have managed to keep onside many of their Remainers it might not be so damaging .
I think it’s a bit more unpredictable overall with loads of different dynamics in play .
Brexit Party not standing in 2017 Tory won seats certainly helps the Tories not go backwards - but having asymmetric swing between the two sets of seats really does make it tricky. The extent of the swing in those marginals the Tories must gain is perhaps obscured. 10% lead should be enough. 5% - not so much.
Anyway, I could be any serener if I was a Williams sister.
*makes a grab for another bag of compulsively eaten popcorn, despite hating the stuff.....*
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
Would people be interested in real time betting numbers on the spreadsheet? And if so, which ones? I have put up Betfair Tory O/M up just as a test.
Depends how “real time”. In 2017 I needed a “bloody hell it was supposed to be a Tory majority how do I salvage my betting position” button. If you can do me one of those that would be great.
No one can know. At this moment we could have 70% voting Labour or 70% voting Tory and no one would have a clue. We just have to wait until 10pm. These market movements ae not driven by any inside knowledge.
No. Although I've heard nasty stories from no less a source than the BBC that the postals are especially good for the Tories. Wonder what happens if they lose the proper vote but win just purely because of people doing it early by mail? Do we get to know the split even?
How are you calling it btw?
Excuse me, and with respect what on earth is this proper vote. A postal vote for us oldies is a proper vote, and for many others who cannot get to the polls who may be disabled
Sorry but that is not really acceptable
I dont agree with the previous poster but acceptable is the wrong word imo. They are allowed their thoughts on what is and isnt a proper vote.
I would prefer voting at weekends, voting for residents who have been here 5+ years but dont happen to have the right flavour passport, but others dont want that.
I fail to see why people shouldnt be able to express their disdain for certain categories of voting, when in reality everyone has some view on who should be able to vote and how.
Maybe but many would be disenfranchised if they could not postal vote
Many are disenfranchised by no weekend voting, or by not having the right flavour passport.
7 AM - 10 PM, nobody is disenfranchised. If you can't find 30 mins to vote, you don't want to.
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
From afar it looks like most of any surge of young voters there might be is happening in seats Labour would expect to win anyway based on the most recent polling.
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
Andecdata - first geniune election in the former Peoples Republic of Bercow for many years. Looked like lots of 'ticks' already showing on the address lists.
Put 3 down for former Tory Dorrell and 1 down for the current Tory (v reluctantly by yours truly).
I wonder if Lib Dems will surprise on the upside now after managing expectations so well with their pants campaign?
Would people be interested in real time betting numbers on the spreadsheet? And if so, which ones? I have put up Betfair Tory O/M up just as a test.
Depends how “real time”. In 2017 I needed a “bloody hell it was supposed to be a Tory majority how do I salvage my betting position” button. If you can do me one of those that would be great.
Well at the moment it is pining Betfair every 15s. I can obviously ping it faster.
Just voted near Cowbridge. I pondered and pondered. Who are Gwlad, Gwlad ( auto correct didn't like them either). Their candidate lived in Bexleyheath anyway. Only other choices were the Greens, Cairns and the National Socialists. Did I get the last bit right?
No one can know. At this moment we could have 70% voting Labour or 70% voting Tory and no one would have a clue. We just have to wait until 10pm. These market movements ae not driven by any inside knowledge.
No. Although I've heard nasty stories from no less a source than the BBC that the postals are especially good for the Tories. Wonder what happens if they lose the proper vote but win just purely because of people doing it early by mail? Do we get to know the split even?
How are you calling it btw?
Excuse me, and with respect what on earth is this proper vote. A postal vote for us oldies is a proper vote, and for many others who cannot get to the polls who may be disabled
Sorry but that is not really acceptable
I dont agree with the previous poster but acceptable is the wrong word imo. They are allowed their thoughts on what is and isnt a proper vote.
I would prefer voting at weekends, voting for residents who have been here 5+ years but dont happen to have the right flavour passport, but others dont want that.
I fail to see why people shouldnt be able to express their disdain for certain categories of voting, when in reality everyone has some view on who should be able to vote and how.
Maybe but many would be disenfranchised if they could not postal vote
Many are disenfranchised by no weekend voting, or by not having the right flavour passport.
7 AM - 10 PM, nobody is disenfranchised. If you can't find 30 mins to vote, you don't want to.
Well, there's disruption on GWR services out of Paddington this evening. Could affect Thames Valley constituencies' turnout a bit (although I think a lot of us voted this morning. The polling booth was busier than I remember it at 7:00 this morning); that kind of thing is outside (apparently) anyone's control but the Almighty. And, on the evidence, he's a total b*st*rd.
It’s strange as a Labour supporter I’ve already accepted a Tory majority and so aren’t stressed at all ! It seems the Tory supporters in here seem convinced that it might be a 2017 repeat .
I even wrote a piece on how this isn't 2017 which I'm starting to get the willies about !
Very funny ! As much as I’d like it to be a 2017 repeat I can’t see it happening .
I think I can understand though how some Tory supporters are suffering an emotional rollercoaster . I think the problem is what sort of lead guarantees a majority .
There might be more tactical voting this time , and even with a big lead the situation in Scotland is complicated.
We don’t really know about turnout barring these reports from people at some of the polling stations , I suspect though it will be higher in Remain areas but because the Tories have managed to keep onside many of their Remainers it might not be so damaging .
I think it’s a bit more unpredictable overall with loads of different dynamics in play .
Brexit Party not standing in 2017 Tory won seats certainly helps the Tories not go backwards - but having asymmetric swing between the two sets of seats really does make it tricky. The extent of the swing in those marginals the Tories must gain is perhaps obscured. 10% lead should be enough. 5% - not so much.
Anyway, I could be any serener if I was a Williams sister.
*makes a grab for another bag of compulsively eaten popcorn, despite hating the stuff.....*
Does it help them? Look at rabbs worries with his majority, what swallowing brexit party may have done is make Boris Tories look like populist front more than traditional conservative, in some areas good look, in liberal conservative remain areas strategic blunder
Just voted near Cowbridge. I pondered and pondered. Who are Gwlad, Gwlad ( auto correct didn't like them either). Their candidate lived in Bexleyheath anyway. Only other choices were the Greens, Cairns and the National Socialists. Did I get the last bit right?
That last one is the new name for the Brexit Party
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
ramp alert
Sorry, truth hurts eh
You have no idea what the turnout is, nobody does, you are just guessing
It’s strange as a Labour supporter I’ve already accepted a Tory majority and so aren’t stressed at all ! It seems the Tory supporters in here seem convinced that it might be a 2017 repeat .
I even wrote a piece on how this isn't 2017 which I'm starting to get the willies about !
Very funny ! As much as I’d like it to be a 2017 repeat I can’t see it happening .
I think I can understand though how some Tory supporters are suffering an emotional rollercoaster . I think the problem is what sort of lead guarantees a majority .
There might be more tactical voting this time , and even with a big lead the situation in Scotland is complicated.
We don’t really know about turnout barring these reports from people at some of the polling stations , I suspect though it will be higher in Remain areas but because the Tories have managed to keep onside many of their Remainers it might not be so damaging .
I think it’s a bit more unpredictable overall with loads of different dynamics in play .
Brexit Party not standing in 2017 Tory won seats certainly helps the Tories not go backwards - but having asymmetric swing between the two sets of seats really does make it tricky. The extent of the swing in those marginals the Tories must gain is perhaps obscured. 10% lead should be enough. 5% - not so much.
Anyway, I could be any serener if I was a Williams sister.
*makes a grab for another bag of compulsively eaten popcorn, despite hating the stuff.....*
Does it help them? Look at rabbs worries with his majority, what swallowing brexit party may have done is make Boris Tories look like populist front more than traditional conservative, in some areas good look, in liberal conservative remain areas strategic blunder
In six weeks, I haven't met a single voter who articulated anything close to that.
It’s strange as a Labour supporter I’ve already accepted a Tory majority and so aren’t stressed at all ! It seems the Tory supporters in here seem convinced that it might be a 2017 repeat .
I even wrote a piece on how this isn't 2017 which I'm starting to get the willies about !
Very funny ! As much as I’d like it to be a 2017 repeat I can’t see it happening .
I think I can understand though how some Tory supporters are suffering an emotional rollercoaster . I think the problem is what sort of lead guarantees a majority .
There might be more tactical voting this time , and even with a big lead the situation in Scotland is complicated.
We don’t really know about turnout barring these reports from people at some of the polling stations , I suspect though it will be higher in Remain areas but because the Tories have managed to keep onside many of their Remainers it might not be so damaging .
I think it’s a bit more unpredictable overall with loads of different dynamics in play .
Brexit Party not standing in 2017 Tory won seats certainly helps the Tories not go backwards - but having asymmetric swing between the two sets of seats really does make it tricky. The extent of the swing in those marginals the Tories must gain is perhaps obscured. 10% lead should be enough. 5% - not so much.
Anyway, I could be any serener if I was a Williams sister.
*makes a grab for another bag of compulsively eaten popcorn, despite hating the stuff.....*
I agree the BP has made it even more difficult to work out . Are you sure it’s just popcorn ? Or is it too early to drink !
It's worth remembering that last time the Tories did better than the exit poll with the first few results to be declared from the North East which led Peter Kellner to say that maybe the Tories would get a majority after all. That came to an end when Swindon North was declared a bit later and was in line with the exit poll.
It’s strange as a Labour supporter I’ve already accepted a Tory majority and so aren’t stressed at all ! It seems the Tory supporters in here seem convinced that it might be a 2017 repeat .
I even wrote a piece on how this isn't 2017 which I'm starting to get the willies about !
Very funny ! As much as I’d like it to be a 2017 repeat I can’t see it happening .
I think I can understand though how some Tory supporters are suffering an emotional rollercoaster . I think the problem is what sort of lead guarantees a majority .
There might be more tactical voting this time , and even with a big lead the situation in Scotland is complicated.
We don’t really know about turnout barring these reports from people at some of the polling stations , I suspect though it will be higher in Remain areas but because the Tories have managed to keep onside many of their Remainers it might not be so damaging .
I think it’s a bit more unpredictable overall with loads of different dynamics in play .
Brexit Party not standing in 2017 Tory won seats certainly helps the Tories not go backwards - but having asymmetric swing between the two sets of seats really does make it tricky. The extent of the swing in those marginals the Tories must gain is perhaps obscured. 10% lead should be enough. 5% - not so much.
Anyway, I could be any serener if I was a Williams sister.
*makes a grab for another bag of compulsively eaten popcorn, despite hating the stuff.....*
Does it help them? Look at rabbs worries with his majority, what swallowing brexit party may have done is make Boris Tories look like populist front more than traditional conservative, in some areas good look, in liberal conservative remain areas strategic blunder
It was the straw that ensured I will definitely not be voting Tory for the first time in 8 GEs!
Just voted near Cowbridge. I pondered and pondered. Who are Gwlad, Gwlad ( auto correct didn't like them either). Their candidate lived in Bexleyheath anyway. Only other choices were the Greens, Cairns and the National Socialists. Did I get the last bit right?
That last one is the new name for the Brexit Party
Gwlad Gwald describe themselves as a Welsh nationalist centre right pro-Brexit Party.
‘our teams on the ground are reporting a high Labour turnout. So have you voted yet? Have your friends and family?’
I got the same email. Must admit, I’m looking forward to the Cabinet getting back to running the country instead of writing emails to me twice a day.
At least the begging letters have stopped - after I wrote into HQ telling them to bugger off with their e-mails, as some of us were working bloody hard in the field to get our candidates elected.
But, in smaller urban areas in the North and Midlands, the drift away from Labour has been taking place over a long time. It's rather like the way people refused to believe, pre-1997, that places like Leeds NE, Leeds NW, Bristol West, Edinburgh Pentlands, Birmingham Edgbaston were on the point of voting Labour, simply because they never had done before.
My fear is that the Midlands in particular will go blue blue blue. They went for Thatcher in a way that places like South Yorkshire and the North East did not.
And there was that CH4 vox pop from Brum with the oiky guy saying how Boris was a "lovable buffoon" who was a "straight talker". That shook me up.
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
Been good reading your posts. Shame we won't be seeing you again after 10PM.
The much awaited Murali_s final seat projection for GE19 has been released and it's reasonably good news for the PB Tories. The Tories on course for a majority of 4!
C: 327 L: 237 LD: 18 SNP: 45 OTH: 23
Margin of error +/- 20 seats for C, L; +/- 5 seats for LD, SNP.
The much awaited Murali_s final seat projection for GE19 has been released and it's reasonably good news for the PB Tories. The Tories on course for a majority of 4!
C: 327 L: 237 LD: 18 SNP: 45 OTH: 23
Margin of error +/- 20 seats for C, L; +/- 5 seats for LD, SNP.
But, in smaller urban areas in the North and Midlands, the drift away from Labour has been taking place over a long time. It's rather like the way people refused to believe, pre-1997, that places like Leeds NE, Leeds NW, Bristol West, Edinburgh Pentlands, Birmingham Edgbaston were on the point of voting Labour, simply because they never had done before.
My fear is that the Midlands in particular will go blue blue blue. They went for Thatcher in a way that places like South Yorkshire and the North East did not.
And there was that CH4 vox pop from Brum with the oiky guy saying how Boris was a "lovable buffoon" who was a "straight talker". That shook me up.
I just don't trust them.
You don't trust who? The Tories or West MIdlands voters?
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
Been good reading your posts. Shame we won't be seeing you again after 10PM.
No one can know. At this moment we could have 70% voting Labour or 70% voting Tory and no one would have a clue. We just have to wait until 10pm. These market movements ae not driven by any inside knowledge.
No. Although I've heard nasty stories from no less a source than the BBC that the postals are especially good for the Tories. Wonder what happens if they lose the proper vote but win just purely because of people doing it early by mail? Do we get to know the split even?
How are you calling it btw?
Excuse me, and with respect what on earth is this proper vote. A postal vote for us oldies is a proper vote, and for many others who cannot get to the polls who may be disabled
Sorry but that is not really acceptable
I dont agree with the previous poster but acceptable is the wrong word imo. They are allowed their thoughts on what is and isnt a proper vote.
I would prefer voting at weekends, voting for residents who have been here 5+ years but dont happen to have the right flavour passport, but others dont want that.
I fail to see why people shouldnt be able to express their disdain for certain categories of voting, when in reality everyone has some view on who should be able to vote and how.
Maybe but many would be disenfranchised if they could not postal vote
Many are disenfranchised by no weekend voting, or by not having the right flavour passport.
7 AM - 10 PM, nobody is disenfranchised. If you can't find 30 mins to vote, you don't want to.
Well, there's disruption on GWR services out of Paddington this evening. Could affect Thames Valley constituencies' turnout a bit (although I think a lot of us voted this morning. The polling booth was busier than I remember it at 7:00 this morning); that kind of thing is outside (apparently) anyone's control but the Almighty. And, on the evidence, he's a total b*st*rd.
Train disruption in this country isn't exactly an unusual occurrence.
Just voted near Cowbridge. I pondered and pondered. Who are Gwlad, Gwlad ( auto correct didn't like them either). Their candidate lived in Bexleyheath anyway. Only other choices were the Greens, Cairns and the National Socialists. Did I get the last bit right?
That last one is the new name for the Brexit Party
Gwlad Gwald describe themselves as a Welsh nationalist centre right pro-Brexit Party.
that party name sounds like Biggus Dickus announcing how pweased he is!
Its pretty important for Labour to have this rain clearing.
Historically their supporters tend to come out in bigger numbers from around 7 to 10 pm . It’s this period last time according to those on the 2017 exit poll where Mays majority started slipping away .
I remember Michael Thrasher saying this when he was talking about the changes they saw during the day .
Just voted near Cowbridge. I pondered and pondered. Who are Gwlad, Gwlad ( auto correct didn't like them either). Their candidate lived in Bexleyheath anyway. Only other choices were the Greens, Cairns and the National Socialists. Did I get the last bit right?
That last one is the new name for the Brexit Party
Gwlad Gwald describe themselves as a Welsh nationalist centre right pro-Brexit Party.
that party name sounds like Biggus Dickus announcing how pweased he is!
I had assumed they were blood and soil nationalists when I saw the name. I suspect they are. And yet the candidate in the Vale of Glamorgan lives in Bexleyheath.
It’s strange as a Labour supporter I’ve already accepted a Tory majority and so aren’t stressed at all ! It seems the Tory supporters in here seem convinced that it might be a 2017 repeat .
I even wrote a piece on how this isn't 2017 which I'm starting to get the willies about !
Very funny ! As much as I’d like it to be a 2017 repeat I can’t see it happening .
I think I can understand though how some Tory supporters are suffering an emotional rollercoaster . I think the problem is what sort of lead guarantees a majority .
There might be more tactical voting this time , and even with a big lead the situation in Scotland is complicated.
We don’t really know about turnout barring these reports from people at some of the polling stations , I suspect though it will be higher in Remain areas but because the Tories have managed to keep onside many of their Remainers it might not be so damaging .
I think it’s a bit more unpredictable overall with loads of different dynamics in play .
Brexit Party not standing in 2017 Tory won seats certainly helps the Tories not go backwards - but having asymmetric swing between the two sets of seats really does make it tricky. The extent of the swing in those marginals the Tories must gain is perhaps obscured. 10% lead should be enough. 5% - not so much.
Anyway, I could be any serener if I was a Williams sister.
*makes a grab for another bag of compulsively eaten popcorn, despite hating the stuff.....*
Does it help them? Look at rabbs worries with his majority, what swallowing brexit party may have done is make Boris Tories look like populist front more than traditional conservative, in some areas good look, in liberal conservative remain areas strategic blunder
In six weeks, I haven't met a single voter who articulated anything close to that.
What are the liberal conservative remain areas. In your neck of woods it’s all very brexitty I think a good night for conservatives in south west. So you mightrightly be serene, your problems elsewhere. That sort lumpy night where Lib Dem’s can take Raab but miss Wells, Cheltenham etc. Another factor is how conservatives took south west back from Lib Dem’s in 2015, labour supporters hated libdems after coalition years, unfortunate for Lib Dem’s as many seats since nineties built up on tactical coalition, that hatred still alive and well in 2017, look at the size of labour vote in Wells for example, but my anecdotal sis that is over for this one, is that the same sense you got out there?
Seems like Labour has managed a higher or more enthusiastic turnout, than expected. Wouldn't be suprised, if this last minute surge, brings Labour in the 36-39% range.
Been good reading your posts. Shame we won't be seeing you again after 10PM.
The price is now too long at 1.5 based on the information we have available. The Conservatives still may not get an overall majority but they must have upwards of an 80% chance now. So I've lumped on. I'll probably hold this bet to conclusion now.
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We are in for a long night IMO
Something I didnt realise until today Dennis has been in hospital for the whole campaign.
I am back on him in the Constituency betting but DYOR.
Too many cars today trying to help him retain the seat.
I was turned away.
It reminds me of 1997 in Mitcham & Morden. Tory canvassers there were convinced they were going to buck the national trend and increase their slim majority. In fact they suffered an enormous defeat on a huge swing, and the Labour MP is still there today.
But, in smaller urban areas in the North and Midlands, the drift away from Labour has been taking place over a long time. It's rather like the way people refused to believe, pre-1997, that places like Leeds NE, Leeds NW, Bristol West, Edinburgh Pentlands, Birmingham Edgbaston were on the point of voting Labour, simply because they never had done before.
Anyway, I could be any serener if I was a Williams sister.
*makes a grab for another bag of compulsively eaten popcorn, despite hating the stuff.....*
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2019/11/27/parking-fears-over-wolves-europa-league-clash-on-general-election-night/
We’ve had both weather and turnout occurring, with scattered showers of brisk, slowing down later,
Put 3 down for former Tory Dorrell and 1 down for the current Tory (v reluctantly by yours truly).
I wonder if Lib Dems will surprise on the upside now after managing expectations so well with their pants campaign?
sorry if this has been asked already but is there a list of estimated declaration times?
Thanks Robin. Looks wild out there ! Robin Wiggs, our Wales correspondent, on the spot in Wales there.
In other news..
Could you do it at 1.07? Laying Lab maj at 16/1 ish??
Check out the seat tab.
NOM at circa 3.0 is a bargain.
Although IMO 3.0 is about right
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LfRjAazZUbSjAOQ0w_ctAPWKfi5hBKilNj0LvuIZp9U/edit#gid=0
And there was that CH4 vox pop from Brum with the oiky guy saying how Boris was a "lovable buffoon" who was a "straight talker". That shook me up.
I just don't trust them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDwxNcURTU
C: 327
L: 237
LD: 18
SNP: 45
OTH: 23
Margin of error +/- 20 seats for C, L; +/- 5 seats for LD, SNP.
Or are you one of those 400 employees Labour let go?
This sounds like bollocks
quite encouraging despite torrential drizzle and floods of less than Biblical proportions.
See you guys at 9.55pm
It deserves an overt and painstakingly typed out GREAT POST
A few anecdotes on this post
Historically their supporters tend to come out in bigger numbers from around 7 to 10 pm . It’s this period last time according to those on the 2017 exit poll where Mays majority started slipping away .
I remember Michael Thrasher saying this when he was talking about the changes they saw during the day .
Bloody students.
Just off to vote now.
I think a good night for conservatives in south west. So you mightrightly be serene, your problems elsewhere.
That sort lumpy night where Lib Dem’s can take Raab but miss Wells, Cheltenham etc.
Another factor is how conservatives took south west back from Lib Dem’s in 2015, labour supporters hated libdems after coalition years, unfortunate for Lib Dem’s as many seats since nineties built up on tactical coalition, that hatred still alive and well in 2017, look at the size of labour vote in Wells for example, but my anecdotal sis that is over for this one, is that the same sense you got out there?
I thought i'd saved it but haven't.
Can anybody give me a refresher please?