I've been moderated for pointing out that anyone who votes for Corbyn, or helps a Labour MP with a tactical vote, is enabling the elevation of a quasi-Islamist, Britain-loathing, Jew-hating prime minister, with all that means for the soul of the nation.
And these people need to morally own their awful decision, and the terrible consequences. Remainerism is a passing affair, anti-Semitism and crypto-Marxism are continuing evils that hurt millions, and will hurt again.
I'm sorry if this offends. But it is simply the truth
I feel much the same way.
I can’t understand why 46% of the electorate would seemingly prefer him as PM in a forced choice.
This should really be down at Chirac v. Le Pen levels.
Boris is a bully, serial cheat, proven liar and unlawful in office. Can’t understand why anyone could vote for that.
Boris is a twit and a liar, a ruthless careerist, and quite amoral. He's not a nice man. Albeit clever.
But Corbyn is in a different league. How can you not see that? Corbyn is dangerously stupid and nasty, and a friend of very very evil people, who he enables. He has actual Stalinists for ALLIES and COLLEAGUES.
Casino is right, this is our version of Chirac versus Le Pen, the fraud versus the fascist. Boris is the fraud, Corbyn is the fascist.
It should be no contest.
One of the two has led a direct assault on Parliamentary democracy. Hint: it wasn’t Jeremy Corbyn.
You are the worst of the lot, because you are very intelligent. So you have no excuse.
You have no answer to this inconvenient but highly relevant fact. Boris Johnson is a clear menace to the country, just as Jeremy Corbyn is. Only your shrill mania prevents you seeing this.
The distinct advantage of Corbyn over Johnson is his zero probability of a majority.
I've been moderated for pointing out that anyone who votes for Corbyn, or helps a Labour MP with a tactical vote, is enabling the elevation of a quasi-Islamist, Britain-loathing, Jew-hating prime minister, with all that means for the soul of the nation.
And these people need to morally own their awful decision, and the terrible consequences. Remainerism is a passing affair, anti-Semitism and crypto-Marxism are continuing evils that hurt millions, and will hurt again.
I'm sorry if this offends. But it is simply the truth
I feel much the same way.
I can’t understand why 46% of the electorate would seemingly prefer him as PM in a forced choice.
This should really be down at Chirac v. Le Pen levels.
Boris is a bully, serial cheat, proven liar and unlawful in office. Can’t understand why anyone could vote for that.
Boris is a twit and a liar, a ruthless careerist, and quite amoral. He's not a nice man. Albeit clever.
But Corbyn is in a different league. How can you not see that? Corbyn is dangerously stupid and nasty, and a friend of very very evil people, who he enables. He has actual Stalinists for ALLIES and COLLEAGUES.
Casino is right, this is our version of Chirac versus Le Pen, the fraud versus the fascist. Boris is the fraud, Corbyn is the fascist.
It should be no contest.
I agree with your second paragraph. I would also agree with it if you substituted Corbyn for Boris and Stalinists for English Defence League supporters.
Abuse away!
Boris Johnson is friends with Taki Theodorocopulos and his other pal Darius Guppy writes for Richard Spencer.
Hardly surprising unfortunately. It is in the wild bird population and emerges into the domestic bird population with frightening regularity. I have almost got to the point where I don't bother removing the isolation protection from my chickens and ducks anymore as I pretty quickly have to reinstall it all. Very depressing
Worrying given the number of Xmas birds in that area. I saw my own turkey being taken off to meet his end yesterday afternoon.
And these people need to morally own their awful decision, and the terrible consequences. Remainerism is a passing affair, anti-Semitism and crypto-Marxism are continuing evils that hurt millions, and will hurt again.
I'm sorry if this offends. But it is simply the truth
I feel much the same way.
I can’t understand why 46% of the electorate would seemingly prefer him as PM in a forced choice.
This should really be down at Chirac v. Le Pen levels.
Boris is a bully, serial cheat, proven liar and unlawful in office. Can’t understand why anyone could vote for that.
Chirac had a far worse count on all measures.
Corbyn is a dangerous idiot who’s driven by a juvenile dogma that will see our economy collapse in a debt-fuelled crisis, and result in people lose their jobs and homes. He will make us far more vulnerable to security threats, that Russia and China will exploit, and quite possibly get people killed in developing terrorist plots that he refuses to act upon. Strikes will become frequent and more regular. Our lives will be depressed and utterly miserable. For some, Jews, there will be an exodus that will utterly shame our country. Others will fear for their rights of free expression in the intimidating atmosphere he facilitated, and the security of their properties.
Boris will just be a massive self-centred twat and rather lazy whilst doing it. He’ll drift along making pretty bog-standard establishment decisions, which he’ll big up as massive successes. But he won’t threaten the fundamentals of our national security, defence, economy, terrify one of our longstanding religious communities or pour fuel of the flames of political violence. He will be something of a damp squib and the Tories out by the next election, if sanity returns.
It isn’t even a difficult choice.
If you feel that way, deny both a majority.
We don’t have this choice at this election.
It would result in another gridlocked parliament and a No Deal Brexit.
I've been moderated for pointing out that anyone who votes for Corbyn, or helps a Labour MP with a tactical vote, is enabling the elevation of a quasi-Islamist, Britain-loathing, Jew-hating prime minister, with all that means for the soul of the nation.
And these people need to morally own their awful decision, and the terrible consequences. Remainerism is a passing affair, anti-Semitism and crypto-Marxism are continuing evils that hurt millions, and will hurt again.
I'm sorry if this offends. But it is simply the truth
I feel much the same way.
I can’t understand why 46% of the electorate would seemingly prefer him as PM in a forced choice.
This should really be down at Chirac v. Le Pen levels.
Few would agree with characterising Jeremy Corbyn as "Britain-loathing"! Which way would Shelley, Blake, Burns and Dickens vote on Thursday?
I think lots would agree that Jeremy Corbyn is Britain-loathing.
That's rubbish. Corbyn dislikes Britain's inequality and unfairness and its colonial past. Disliking the establishment isn't the same as hating Britain. I love this country, that's why I want it to be better. I think Corbyn's views come from a similar place.
I agree there is a long and honorable tradition of English radicalism, from the Levellers and Diggers to the Tolpuddle Martyrs and Chartists, the Abolitionists and the Pro-Boers through to modern times. Corbyn is at the heart of this tradition.
For example, Thomas Paine's books were massive sellers in their day, and still read well today. The Rights of Man sold possibly a million copies, when the population of England was less than 10 million people.
I've been moderated for pointing out that anyone who votes for Corbyn, or helps a Labour MP with a tactical vote, is enabling the elevation of a quasi-Islamist, Britain-loathing, Jew-hating prime minister, with all that means for the soul of the nation.
And these people need to morally own their awful decision, and the terrible consequences. Remainerism is a passing affair, anti-Semitism and crypto-Marxism are continuing evils that hurt millions, and will hurt again.
I'm sorry if this offends. But it is simply the truth
I feel much the same way.
I can’t understand why 46% of the electorate would seemingly prefer him as PM in a forced choice.
This should really be down at Chirac v. Le Pen levels.
Boris is a bully, serial cheat, proven liar and unlawful in office. Can’t understand why anyone could vote for that.
Boris is a twit and a liar, a ruthless careerist, and quite amoral. He's not a nice man. Albeit clever.
But Corbyn is in a different league. How can you not see that? Corbyn is dangerously stupid and nasty, and a friend of very very evil people, who he enables. He has actual Stalinists for ALLIES and COLLEAGUES.
Casino is right, this is our version of Chirac versus Le Pen, the fraud versus the fascist. Boris is the fraud, Corbyn is the fascist.
It should be no contest.
Boris clever? So the rumour that he was a Skullion Scholar at Oxford is untrue?
The PB Tories have gone wobbly again. They’ll be back to their pompous best in seven minutes.
You’re a good guy, Jonathan. I like you and I wish the Labour Party had more like you.
However, one of things that drives you is a pathological detestation of the Conservative Party, your lifelong enemy.
It is so obvious how this comes out in your most partisan form, and I know it isn’t really you.
You’re a thinker.
If only we all had your impartiality and objectivity Casino! FWIW Boris took it to a new level when he acted unlawfully. Should have been sacked then and there. No way back after that.
CON 337 LAB 235 SNP 41 LD 14 PC 3 GRN 1 BXP 0 Speaker 1
CON majority 24
A Brexit designed by the ERG with those figures.
We’d risk a No Deal Brexit with that.
It’s in everyone’s interests for Boris to win big, even the Labour Party as it’s their only route back to sanity and Government.
So wrong
No, it’s spot on.
If Labour do “ok” - again - you’ll be stuck with a hard Left successor on a ‘one more heave’ basis, who will - again - fail to win next time.
Boris is going to take a lot of political damage for the final Brexit Deal, and very probably suffer a nasty recession in office too. The Tories will become wildly disliked.
It doesn’t matter even if they get 400 seats, the electorate is very volatile these days and the right (sane) leader Labour could gain 200 seats in the subsequent election and a majority if they sort themselves out.
The radiotherapy needs to be applied first. But, you must first get over your immediate hatred of the Tories and see the long game.
No it’s not. You are making assumptions about large majority Johnson government which are heroically rose tinted. Some might say delusional.
Nope, everything we know about Boris’s personality and past record tells us he wants to ditch the ERG and do a practical deal with the EU, and sell it as a huge success..
It really doesn’t. Sacking the left wing of his party, benching Hunt and appointing people like Raab, Patel and Mogg to the cabinet point to another direction.
Thats because he was in a hung parliament and hostage to the ERG and trying to get to the election!
And yet polls have barely moved, as an average, in several weeks.
I make so many predictions, but I think the last one I made was Tory majority of about 35. They'd take that, or 28 for that matter, but there's no doubt the MRP will give Labour supporters a shot in the arm, belief that they can do this, they just need to outperform the polls a little rather than a lot. They could still do this.
I've been moderated for pointing out that anyone who votes for Corbyn, or helps a Labour MP with a tactical vote, is enabling the elevation of a quasi-Islamist, Britain-loathing, Jew-hating prime minister, with all that means for the soul of the nation.
And these people need to morally own their awful decision, and the terrible consequences. Remainerism is a passing affair, anti-Semitism and crypto-Marxism are continuing evils that hurt millions, and will hurt again.
I'm sorry if this offends. But it is simply the truth
I feel much the same way.
I can’t understand why 46% of the electorate would seemingly prefer him as PM in a forced choice.
This should really be down at Chirac v. Le Pen levels.
Few would agree with characterising Jeremy Corbyn as "Britain-loathing"! Which way would Shelley, Blake, Burns and Dickens vote on Thursday?
I think lots would agree that Jeremy Corbyn is Britain-loathing.
That's rubbish. Corbyn dislikes Britain's inequality and unfairness and its colonial past. Disliking the establishment isn't the same as hating Britain. I love this country, that's why I want it to be better. I think Corbyn's views come from a similar place.
You do, yes. Corbyn sees Britain as the root of all evil in the world.
It comes through with every fibre of his being, and everything he says.
This isn’t even a point for debate. It’s just true.
Not really. He dislikes the establishment and the colonialist and racist mindset that has ruled for much of our history. But then all right thinking people would hate that too. There is another Britain, that isn't the Britain of the House of Lords, the great public schools and the officers' mess. The Britain of the nonconformists, the trades unionists, the suffragettes and the Chartists, musical pioneers like the Beatles, writing songs to change the world from a council house in Liverpool. And the Britain of ordinary people living unsung lives, working hard for not a lot of money. This is the Britain that I love, the Britain that Labour will always fight for.
Given the direction, that probably means a Hung Parliament.
Catastrophe.
The catastrophe is a Labour majority. That isn’t happening. A close to 10 point lead will deliver the Tories a handy majority. Johnson will be free to launch his assault on the constitution.
The LibDems are going to regret "Bollocks to Brexit", and personalising the campaign around Jo Swinson. She may even lose her seat. That being said, in pure vote terms, the LDs will do significantly better than in '15 or '17. With 50+% more votes than last time, and it would be surprising if they were to actually fall backwards in number of seats.
If the Lib Dems gain a decent number of affluent English seats and Jo Swinson loses hers, it would be a good result for them in the longer term. Choosing her was a disastrous decision.
The PB Tories have gone wobbly again. They’ll be back to their pompous best in seven minutes.
You’re a good guy, Jonathan. I like you and I wish the Labour Party had more like you.
However, one of things that drives you is a pathological detestation of the Conservative Party, your lifelong enemy.
It is so obvious how this comes out in your most partisan form, and I know it isn’t really you.
You’re a thinker.
If only we all had your impartiality and objectivity Casino! FWIW Boris took it to a new level when he acted unlawfully. Should have been sacked then and there. No way back after that.
You know I hated that just as much as you did. I said so on here at the time.
This is about stopping Corbyn, and resolving (for now) the biggest national issue we face.
Boris can then do one if he’s shite as far as I’m concerned.
Yougov MRP then still gives a Tory majority of 28 and the biggest Tory majority since Thatcher even if as expected it has tightened a bit since the last poll
East Devon is a tossup between IND and CON with the point estimates and confidence intervals both exactly the same, and no other party on more than 3 !
Erm am I missing something here? It’s still showing a Tory majority, and actually one I think looks quite realistic.
I think people need to calm down.
Direction of travel and how much further progress need to make, ie, not much more. Still a good result for the Tories if it pans out, but the media narrative will spread - it is close, very close. And will those Labour waverers, and the red wall, risk it now?
At GE2017 the combined Tory majorities in their 14 most marginal seats was 5,596 votes, meaning 2,803 people voting differently would have lost them those seats.
9 point lead is still very good, 1 day of campaigning to go and the Tories would have taken that 6 weeks ago, but obviously a shame the majority has halved, but that was over 2 weeks or so!
For goodness sake all of you, get a grip! It is a poll saying Boris will win and the fact it is not suggesting a landslide means any Tory waiverers are far less likely to waiver if there is even the slightest chance of a Corbyn government.
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Worrying given the number of Xmas birds in that area. I saw my own turkey being taken off to meet his end yesterday afternoon.
It's Tory maj of 30. Fuck. We are inches from disaster
60 seconds to go.
You’re still wrong, though.
For example, Thomas Paine's books were massive sellers in their day, and still read well today. The Rights of Man sold possibly a million copies, when the population of England was less than 10 million people.
It's going to be a Hung Parliament.
It's heading for Hung Parliament again.
Catastrophe.
Obvs.
https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2019/
7 looks like a Hung Parliament - and Labour look to be on the move.
I think people need to calm down.
42-43% is not enough to win a majority in the present times, they need more.
I make so many predictions, but I think the last one I made was Tory majority of about 35. They'd take that, or 28 for that matter, but there's no doubt the MRP will give Labour supporters a shot in the arm, belief that they can do this, they just need to outperform the polls a little rather than a lot. They could still do this.
Pleasant night to all.
Con 43%
Lab 34%
LD 12%
Mon-Fri I am living with CHB
Sat/Sun I am living outside cyclefree's £5m hampstead house
What a shit poll
As one or two of us have been suggesting
And that's a clear and definite shift to Labour.
Cons will be a bit worried tonight. If they're not in denial.
Labour is recovering - but is it quickly enough?
*innocent face*
This is about stopping Corbyn, and resolving (for now) the biggest national issue we face.
Boris can then do one if he’s shite as far as I’m concerned.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1204521341774381056?s=20
PB Tories panic and say “hung parliament”
Go figure.
That could play out either way on Election Day.
https://twitter.com/graemedemianyk/status/1204494393824235521?s=21
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/workington-man-still-doesnt-know-who-to-vote-for-in-the-general-election-mv0kncmvr
And lo, the banter heuristic came to pass
So 2 more points and 319 = HP.
Off we go
2,803 votes out of 33 million.