But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?
No.
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.
Deal. A Negroni for loads of stories of useless lawyers!
And bankers. Then I can come and tell your students what careers to avoid.
Got quite a few who want to be lawyers. Can't think offhand of any potential bankers.
Sensible kids. Their heads get turned at university.
On a serious point I do talks about What Life is Really Like as a Lawyer and What I Wish I'd Known When I Was Younger, especially to girls, if that is ever of interest. Did one for International Womens Day this year. Role models - or just real life examples (not boring "I'm trying to sell my firm" ones) can be helpful.
Thanks. That might be of interest.
I'm on holiday next week - can I contact you to discuss it next month?
But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?
No.
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.
Deal. A Negroni for loads of stories of useless lawyers!
And bankers. Then I can come and tell your students what careers to avoid.
Got quite a few who want to be lawyers. Can't think offhand of any potential bankers.
Sensible kids. Their heads get turned at university.
On a serious point I do talks about What Life is Really Like as a Lawyer and What I Wish I'd Known When I Was Younger, especially to girls, if that is ever of interest. Did one for International Womens Day this year. Role models - or just real life examples (not boring "I'm trying to sell my firm" ones) can be helpful.
Thanks. That might be of interest.
I'm on holiday next week - can I contact you to discuss it next month?
Boris coming into office with this Iran crisis is a worry but can anyone imagine Corbyn dealing with this
Kent and Surrey are a small price to pay for peace, and the suspension of some Labour MPs clearly, once again, demonstrates that Labour has zero-tolerance when it comes to agreeing with Israeli sourced comments such as 'surrender-monkey'.
Tbf the Iranian nuclear programme would have had to be much more far advanced than anyone thought for that to happen. Perhaps inspiring the red mist to descend upon John Bolton resulting in us all being destroyed in a nuclear war would be more likely.
Armageddon, pshaw, I cast my glove of pedantry in your face.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?
No.
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.
Deal. A Negroni for loads of stories of useless lawyers!
And bankers. Then I can come and tell your students what careers to avoid.
Got quite a few who want to be lawyers. Can't think offhand of any potential bankers.
Sensible kids. Their heads get turned at university.
On a serious point I do talks about What Life is Really Like as a Lawyer and What I Wish I'd Known When I Was Younger, especially to girls, if that is ever of interest. Did one for International Womens Day this year. Role models - or just real life examples (not boring "I'm trying to sell my firm" ones) can be helpful.
Thanks. That might be of interest.
I'm on holiday next week - can I contact you to discuss it next month?
Is false recall really the right term? I get there could be confusion about voting some ways back, but surely no one without a problem 'recalls' incorrectly so recently?
Not everyone takes the decision so seriously that it's indelibly marked in their memory.
That's a reason not to remember who you voted for in 79, or 97, but come on, it's so casual people actually forget within a few years?
Not only does the phenomenon exist, it's pretty unremarkable. There was a thread a few days ago about how it is so prevalent one pollster doesn't weight by past vote, and panel pollsters take the vote recall as recorded just after the vote.
People are not necessary good nor kind nor conscientious, they can be shallow, silly, malevolent or just plain evil. People vote for silly reasons and hen pretend to themselves they didn't.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Yes. Although I hear he’s having dinner with HYUFD.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
I think they are trying not to upscale it to PM level and use diplomacy
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Quite. If he isn't, it won't reflect badly on him...
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Yes. Although I hear he’s having dinner with HYUFD.
HYUFD did name drop that last night to be fair, so more than likely
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
Riiiight...a man who signs EDMs praising the democratic nature of the Iranian government would be a real boon in hits situation.
For the Iranians, admittedly, but hey, we can't win them all.
(BTW, you do know that the allegation is that Iranian tanker was breaching EU sanctions, don't you?)
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
Not necessarily 'nothing to do with the US.' They were urging us to seize it. But also hardly 'splitting us off from the EU.'
The irony is, if we had left the EU it would have been the Spanish who would have had to seize the tanker.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
Well, in fairness, if he hadn't I for one might have doubted if he was literate.
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
The Spanish have said it was due to a US request. We don't know the real reason but let's acknowledge there is debate on the subject.
Personally, I don't support us seizing the tanker, I don't care a jot about it going to Syria, I wish we would just leave Assad to get on with it, but perhaps a good solution would be for us to just purchase the crude? Then it doesn't go to the nasty Syrian regime, and Iran gets to make an honest buck, which is surely what we want them to do, rather than enriching uranium.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Yes. Although I hear he’s having dinner with HYUFD.
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
I'm not sure I believe that. Firstly the UK is leading the charge on saving JPOCA because our interests are well served by the agreement and frankly I think May was personally pretty pissed off that Trump started this stupid conflict back in 2017. Secondly, Jeremy Hunt is quite personally invested in these efforts since it's been his balliwick and one of his main achievements during his tenure. I'm not convinced that either of them would jeapordise their own aims in this scenario without some alternative pull factor. Reuters seems to have some grounds to suggest that the tanker was impounded at the request of Washington (and they usually have some pretty good diplomatic contacts https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-tanker-gibraltar/gibraltar-extends-detention-of-iranian-tanker-for-a-month-idUSKCN1UE16I).
Fundamentally I think this is a powerplay to try to break apart the multilateral coalition that's been trying to undermine the US sanctions effort against Iran over JPOCA.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Delivering a solution without understanding the problem is a rare talent. Obviously explains how Johnson is going to deliver on Brexit.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
Don't worry Alistair in a week's time or so it'll be his job to be interested in the solution
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
So we're told.
Well, we're not really. We're being told Gibraltar was not ordered to seize it, which is a far cry from saying the US didn't ask us to.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
Don't worry Alistair in a week's time or so it'll be his job to be interested in the solution
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
I'm not sure I believe that. Firstly the UK is leading the charge on saving JPOCA because our interests are well served by the agreement and frankly I think May was personally pretty pissed off that Trump started this stupid conflict back in 2017. Secondly, Jeremy Hunt is quite personally invested in these efforts since it's been his balliwick and one of his main achievements during his tenure. I'm not convinced that either of them would jeapordise their own aims in this scenario without some alternative pull factor. Reuters seems to have some grounds to suggest that the tanker was impounded at the request of Washington (and they usually have some pretty good diplomatic contacts https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-tanker-gibraltar/gibraltar-extends-detention-of-iranian-tanker-for-a-month-idUSKCN1UE16I).
Fundamentally I think this is a powerplay to try to break apart the multilateral coalition that's been trying to undermine the US sanctions effort against Iran over JPOCA.
It is accepted that the tanker was breaking EU sanctions hence it was stopped.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
I'm not sure I believe that. Firstly the UK is leading the charge on saving JPOCA because our interests are well served by the agreement and frankly I think May was personally pretty pissed off that Trump started this stupid conflict back in 2017. Secondly, Jeremy Hunt is quite personally invested in these efforts since it's been his balliwick and one of his main achievements during his tenure. I'm not convinced that either of them would jeapordise their own aims in this scenario without some alternative pull factor. Reuters seems to have some grounds to suggest that the tanker was impounded at the request of Washington (and they usually have some pretty good diplomatic contacts https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-tanker-gibraltar/gibraltar-extends-detention-of-iranian-tanker-for-a-month-idUSKCN1UE16I).
Fundamentally I think this is a powerplay to try to break apart the multilateral coalition that's been trying to undermine the US sanctions effort against Iran over JPOCA.
It is accepted that the tanker was breaking EU sanctions hence it was stopped.
Again, 'accepted' is the wrong word. It is 'very probable.' (In fact, we know it's more than that because otherwise Iran would have given us the assurances we asked for and it would have been released by now, rather than Iran behaving like drunken lunatics or spoiled two year olds.) But it is not yet proven to a legal standard.
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
I'm not sure I believe that. Firstly the UK is leading the charge on saving JPOCA because our interests are well served by the agreement and frankly I think May was personally pretty pissed off that Trump started this stupid conflict back in 2017. Secondly, Jeremy Hunt is quite personally invested in these efforts since it's been his balliwick and one of his main achievements during his tenure. I'm not convinced that either of them would jeapordise their own aims in this scenario without some alternative pull factor. Reuters seems to have some grounds to suggest that the tanker was impounded at the request of Washington (and they usually have some pretty good diplomatic contacts https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-tanker-gibraltar/gibraltar-extends-detention-of-iranian-tanker-for-a-month-idUSKCN1UE16I).
Fundamentally I think this is a powerplay to try to break apart the multilateral coalition that's been trying to undermine the US sanctions effort against Iran over JPOCA.
It is accepted that the tanker was breaking EU sanctions hence it was stopped.
Again, 'accepted' is the wrong word. It is 'very probable.' (In fact, we know it's more than that because otherwise Iran would have given us the assurances we asked for and it would have been released by now, rather than Iran behaving like drunken lunatics or spoiled two year olds.) But it is not yet proven to a legal standard.
Corbyn running the show in this imbroglio with Iran would be a damned sight better than Johnson, mostly because he wouldn't be trying to suck up to his hair buddy in Washington. We should have told the Americans to get bent when they asked us to sieze the Iranian tanker in the straight of Gibraltar. Bolton and his cabal of loons are trying to deliberately split us from the rest of Europe on JPOCA and I'm worried that De Pfeffel will happily oblige.
The tanker in Gibraltar was seized due to suspicion that it was breaking EU sanctions. Nothing to do with the US
I'm not sure I believe that. Firstly the UK is leading the charge on saving JPOCA because our interests are well served by the agreement and frankly I think May was personally pretty pissed off that Trump started this stupid conflict back in 2017. Secondly, Jeremy Hunt is quite personally invested in these efforts since it's been his balliwick and one of his main achievements during his tenure. I'm not convinced that either of them would jeapordise their own aims in this scenario without some alternative pull factor. Reuters seems to have some grounds to suggest that the tanker was impounded at the request of Washington (and they usually have some pretty good diplomatic contacts https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-tanker-gibraltar/gibraltar-extends-detention-of-iranian-tanker-for-a-month-idUSKCN1UE16I).
Fundamentally I think this is a powerplay to try to break apart the multilateral coalition that's been trying to undermine the US sanctions effort against Iran over JPOCA.
It is accepted that the tanker was breaking EU sanctions hence it was stopped.
That's a slightly facetious take. We all know it's possible to tactically ignore situations in order to gain advantage in others that you consider more important (see EU negotiations over the last 20 years).
There are always reasons why beyond the boilerplate. I think it's unconvincing that the UK was just being a stand up citizen in the fight against Assad when that war is lost and a tanker load of oil makes bugger all difference to a regime that's getting its energy needs met by the Russians. Whether US pressure was the only reason to act is another question but I find it extremely unlikely that Downing St and the Foreign Office would make a strategically disadvantageous decision like seizing an Iranian tanker if the US wasn't pushing for it.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
Well, I'm off for a few days, and it's likely I won't be on PB much. Failing John Bolton or Boris blowing up the world, I will be back a week on Tuesday.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
Well, I'm off for a few days, and it's likely I won't be on PB much. Failing John Bolton or Boris blowing up the world, I will be back a week on Tuesday.
Could be worse. Could be IDS emerging from 10 Downing Street to declare war the French Iraq. Oh no, we’ve already had that.
Remember HYUFD is having dinner with IDS and Raab tonight with Boris expected to join them so no doubt we can all rest easy as they can hold their own Cobra meeting and HYUFD can provide expert analysis on how each option will effect Boris's poll rating !!!
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
There’s no point bending rules about access to a security briefing to accommodate someone who does not treat it seriously.
Well, I'm off for a few days, and it's likely I won't be on PB much. Failing John Bolton or Boris blowing up the world, I will be back a week on Tuesday.
Have a good one.
Have a good break - look forward to your return postings
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
From what I have heard, Johnson doesn't lack curiosity. That might be more of a May issue. Johnson's issues are that he lacks diligence, principle and responsibility
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
Don't worry Alistair in a week's time or so it'll be his job to be interested in the solution
As far he's concerned it will be to give the impression (with varying degrees of conviction) that he's interested in the solution.
The point when the blustering, hoohahing, unserious shit meets the implacable, carbon steel bladed fan.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
There’s no point bending rules about access to a security briefing to accommodate someone who does not treat it seriously.
Not sure about your reasoning there but more specifically he has not been elected yet so this matter has to be the responsibility of TM until Boris is confirmed and in no 10
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
There’s no point bending rules about access to a security briefing to accommodate someone who does not treat it seriously.
Not sure about your reasoning there but more specifically he has not been elected yet so this matter has to be the responsibility of TM until Boris is confirmed and in no 10
Boris is due at the Palace on Wednesday so it seems churlish to exclude him for the sake of a few days. Hunt is already there, of course.
ETA betting-wise, this must strengthen the case for Hunt remaining in post.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
There’s no point bending rules about access to a security briefing to accommodate someone who does not treat it seriously.
Not sure about your reasoning there but more specifically he has not been elected yet so this matter has to be the responsibility of TM until Boris is confirmed and in no 10
Boris is due at the Palace on Wednesday so it seems churlish to exclude him for the sake of a few days. Hunt is already there, of course.
ETA betting-wise, this must strengthen the case for Hunt remaining in post.
We may well see TM, Hunt and Boris attending Cobra over the next few days
Well, I'm off for a few days, and it's likely I won't be on PB much. Failing John Bolton or Boris blowing up the world, I will be back a week on Tuesday.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
There’s no point bending rules about access to a security briefing to accommodate someone who does not treat it seriously.
Not sure about your reasoning there but more specifically he has not been elected yet so this matter has to be the responsibility of TM until Boris is confirmed and in no 10
Boris is due at the Palace on Wednesday so it seems churlish to exclude him for the sake of a few days. Hunt is already there, of course.
ETA betting-wise, this must strengthen the case for Hunt remaining in post.
We may well see TM, Hunt and Boris attending Cobra over the next few days
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
Surely Boris ought to be there. Protocol or no.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep Boris out would be a political gesture and an utterly futile one.
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
There’s no point bending rules about access to a security briefing to accommodate someone who does not treat it seriously.
Not sure about your reasoning there but more specifically he has not been elected yet so this matter has to be the responsibility of TM until Boris is confirmed and in no 10
Boris is due at the Palace on Wednesday so it seems churlish to exclude him for the sake of a few days. Hunt is already there, of course.
ETA betting-wise, this must strengthen the case for Hunt remaining in post.
I have said earlier Boris needs to keep Hunt as FS
O/T but I'm extremely excited about the new Top Gun trailer that dropped yesterday. The F14 flying sequences in the orignal always turn me into a wide-eyed schoolboy even now and the new one looks excellent. Zoomy plane goes vroom vroom.
Boris Johnson ducked out of a Cobra meeting to be photographed signing a letter. He made his choice about priorities then.
It really isn't about Boris's priorities. It's about who is about to be PM. What a petulant response.
I’d rather brief people who are going to be interested in the problem.
I'd rather brief people who are going to be interested in the solution.
Boris Johnson doesn’t fall in either group. So your bleating on his behalf is incomprehensible.
It isn't on his behalf. The less suitable or capable the next PM is, the wiser and more necessary it is to brief them. To keep
It was his job when he was Foreign Secretary. He opted out then, to be pictured holding a pen.
Yes, but as I'm trying to say, that is not relevant when he's a the next PM. It stops being about whether he deserves a briefing, or should get to sit at the high table, and starts being about the fact that he should be briefed and included at this stage because of his forthcoming role. The only good reason I can see for excluding him is to make the political point that he is unfit to Govern. This may be true, but at this stage, it's futile to make it, and potentially results in an even less prepared PM.
There’s no point bending rules about access to a security briefing to accommodate someone who does not treat it seriously.
Not sure about your reasoning there but more specifically he has not been elected yet so this matter has to be the responsibility of TM until Boris is confirmed and in no 10
Boris is due at the Palace on Wednesday so it seems churlish to exclude him for the sake of a few days. Hunt is already there, of course.
ETA betting-wise, this must strengthen the case for Hunt remaining in post.
We may well see TM, Hunt and Boris attending Cobra over the next few days
I wish people would stop calling him Boris.
I think that is highly unlikely but I am sure he will be called a lot of things
O/T but I'm extremely excited about the new Top Gun trailer that dropped yesterday. The F14 flying sequences in the orignal always turn me into a wide-eyed schoolboy even now and the new one looks excellent. Zoomy plane goes vroom vroom.
A rapper. Moreover, a wealthy and influential American. Who therefore cannot seriously be expected to face due process in a foreign country. We are reaching the point where the Trump administration is pushing its luck.
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Not cheap but heartily recommended
I'm on holiday next week - can I contact you to discuss it next month?
The second one was the cheaper.
The Iranian took back control from their unelected ruler.
And Boris had a conversation with Trump yesterday according to US sources
Armageddon, pshaw, I cast my glove of pedantry in your face.
To me it is essential Hunt stays as FO to deal with this crisis with Iran and I just hope Boris does not move him in an act of stupidity, but this is Boris !!!!
People are not necessary good nor kind nor conscientious, they can be shallow, silly, malevolent or just plain evil. People vote for silly reasons and hen pretend to themselves they didn't.
And given more credence to Mohammad Mosaddegh.
For the Iranians, admittedly, but hey, we can't win them all.
(BTW, you do know that the allegation is that Iranian tanker was breaching EU sanctions, don't you?)
The irony is, if we had left the EU it would have been the Spanish who would have had to seize the tanker.
It's a good job one of the two people about to become PM never mangles his words...
Personally, I don't support us seizing the tanker, I don't care a jot about it going to Syria, I wish we would just leave Assad to get on with it, but perhaps a good solution would be for us to just purchase the crude? Then it doesn't go to the nasty Syrian regime, and Iran gets to make an honest buck, which is surely what we want them to do, rather than enriching uranium.
Fundamentally I think this is a powerplay to try to break apart the multilateral coalition that's been trying to undermine the US sanctions effort against Iran over JPOCA.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-tanker-gibraltar/gibraltar-extends-detention-of-iranian-tanker-for-a-month-idUKKCN1UE15O
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49037205
the FrenchIraq. Oh no, we’ve already had that.There are always reasons why beyond the boilerplate. I think it's unconvincing that the UK was just being a stand up citizen in the fight against Assad when that war is lost and a tanker load of oil makes bugger all difference to a regime that's getting its energy needs met by the Russians. Whether US pressure was the only reason to act is another question but I find it extremely unlikely that Downing St and the Foreign Office would make a strategically disadvantageous decision like seizing an Iranian tanker if the US wasn't pushing for it.
Edit: well, depends on the shirt and what's on instead of the trainers...
Have a good one.
The point when the blustering, hoohahing, unserious shit meets the implacable, carbon steel bladed fan.
ETA betting-wise, this must strengthen the case for Hunt remaining in post.
We are reaching the point where the Trump administration is pushing its luck.