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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,898
    > @rcs1000 said:
    > I just read PB on the Oculus Quest browser.
    >
    > That makes me officially the most geeky person on here.

    Only if you did so whilst on a train...
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Sky commentator saying labour may get zero in London!
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    ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    > @HYUFD said:
    > https://twitter.com/MehreenKhn/status/1132694835113148419?s=20<;

    +++++

    There's a certain funereal humour in that. Only a scintilla, mind.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,645
    edited May 2019
    rcs1000 said:

    I just read PB on the Oculus Quest browser.



    That makes me officially the most geeky person on here.

    I don't know, I wrote a script to find comments from specific users who I consider noteworthy and then write them to a data frame then email me a CSV. It's a shame it was in a Jupyter notebook which I don't have access to any more. :/
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    ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    > @RobD said:
    > > @Byronic said:
    > > > @RobD said:
    > > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > > twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > > >
    > > > Tsk, another criminal.<
    > >
    > > +++++
    > >
    > > Christ.
    >
    > Tongue in cheek. Unless your comment was also tongue in cheek. In which case, carry on.<

    +++++

    My remark was aimed at the incredible result, not you.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,957
    > @HYUFD said:
    > > @RobD said:
    > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > >
    > > Tsk, another criminal.
    >
    > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs

    I’ve been saying this for days. Most Tories seem to have voted TBP
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,012
    > @HYUFD said:
    > > @RobD said:
    > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > >
    > > Tsk, another criminal.
    >
    > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs

    +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,021
    > @Byronic said:
    > > @RobD said:
    > > > @Byronic said:
    > > > > @RobD said:
    > > > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > > > twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > > > >
    > > > > Tsk, another criminal.<
    > > >
    > > > +++++
    > > >
    > > > Christ.
    > >
    > > Tongue in cheek. Unless your comment was also tongue in cheek. In which case, carry on.<
    >
    > +++++
    >
    > My remark was aimed at the incredible result, not you.

    Ah, my apologies!
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    brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    > @Ave_it said:
    > LD winning everything in London
    >
    > Bit like 1906!
    >

    Even Havering?
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    > @AndyJS said:
    > Richmond Upon Thames, turnout: 53.85%.

    7% rise in turnout from 2014.

    Remain 69% in 2016.

    If what we’re hearing from other parts of London is correct then the Lib Dems will definitely have topped the poll here.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,898
    > @maaarsh said:
    > > @AndyJS said:
    > > I put £20 on the LDs winning most seats at 50/1. Don't expect to win but you never know.
    >
    > Given they're likely to be winning in the high turn-out regions, it's fair to assume their vote efficiency will be pretty poor. So for that bet to win, they'd need a comfortable win on headline vote share too.
    >
    > Best of luck.

    Though there will be similar high turnout districts even in low turnout regions. The macro and micro are driven by the same factors.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,763
    > @NickPalmer said:
    > On a non-partisan note - if all the votes have been counted, why will they wait till the early hours to announce them?

    They're on double time plus shift allowance. Unionised returning officers, comrade!
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,148
    > @NickPalmer said:
    > On a non-partisan note - if all the votes have been counted, why will they wait till the early hours to announce them?

    Overtime?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086
    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I just read PB on the Oculus Quest browser.



    That makes me officially the most geeky person on here.

    I don't know, I wrote a script to find comments from specific users who I consider noteworthy
    Dare we ask who made the list?
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    Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 4,865
    > @Jonathan said:
    > > @rcs1000 said:
    > > I just read PB on the Oculus Quest browser.
    > >
    > > That makes me officially the most geeky person on here.
    >
    > You need a VR bar chart.

    Don't let that LD column take your eye out.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,207
    edited May 2019
    > @Sean_F said:
    > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > @RobD said:
    > > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > > >
    > > > Tsk, another criminal.
    > >
    > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs
    >
    > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.

    The TBP did not stand in 2014
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    No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 3,868
    > @Chris said:
    > > @HYUFD said:
    > > As we await the UK European election results here is President Trump at the Sumo wrestling in Japan today
    > >
    > > https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1132623971139112960?s=20
    >
    > How disappointing. I thought you meant he was taking part.

    He failed the weigh-in.
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    oldpoliticsoldpolitics Posts: 455
    edited May 2019
    > @Byronic said:
    > > @RobD said:
    > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > >
    > > Tsk, another criminal.<
    >
    > +++++
    >
    > Christ.

    Would be consistent with Brexit Party 36% nationally, assuming a similar relationship to the Referendum vote, and a 5% turnout penalty. Doesn't seem implausible.
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    brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    > @dyedwoolie said:
    > Sky commentator saying labour may get zero in London!

    Surely they have got more than 8 per cent in the capital - it can’t be that bad?...
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086
    Mortimer said:

    > @HYUFD said:

    > > @RobD said:

    > > > @Gallowgate said:

    > > >



    > >

    > > Tsk, another criminal.

    >

    > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs



    I’ve been saying this for days. Most Tories seem to have voted TBP
    I bet most Tory MPs did too, privately.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,957
    > @NickPalmer said:
    > On a non-partisan note - if all the votes have been counted, why will they wait till the early hours to announce them?

    I’m pretty sure they won’t wait. If the votes are counted, they’ll announce
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,173
    edited May 2019
    > @MaxPB said:
    > I just read PB on the Oculus Quest browser.
    >
    >
    >
    > That makes me officially the most geeky person on here.
    >
    > I don't know, I wrote a script to find comments from specific users who I consider noteworthy and then write them to a data frame then email me a CSV. It's a shame it was in a Jupyter notebook which I don't have access to any more. :/

    I hope you host your Juypter notebooks on pythonanywhere :)
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,207
    edited May 2019
    > @Chris said:
    > > @HYUFD said:
    > > As we await the UK European election results here is President Trump at the Sumo wrestling in Japan today
    > >
    > > https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1132623971139112960?s=20
    >
    > How disappointing. I thought you meant he was taking part.

    He did present the trophy, he has done WWE before

    https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrExwhz_Opcs6YAbgL13olQ;_ylu=X3oDMTBzcTlnazAzBHNlYwNjZC1hdHRyBHNsawNzb3VyY2UEdnRpZAM-/RV=2/RE=1558932724/RO=10/RU=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEDP5-O9MZI/RK=2/RS=ICKDpeJ7Z_jviX03K8BCDam6W6E-
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,148
    > @nico67 said:
    > > @AndyJS said:
    > > Richmond Upon Thames, turnout: 53.85%.
    >
    > 7% rise in turnout from 2014.
    >
    > Remain 69% in 2016.
    >
    > If what we’re hearing from other parts of London is correct then the Lib Dems will definitely have topped the poll here.

    I was in Kew on Thursday and I've never seen so many Lib Dem posters anywhere.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,012
    > @HYUFD said:
    > > @Sean_F said:
    > > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > > @RobD said:
    > > > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > > > >
    > > > > Tsk, another criminal.
    > > >
    > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs
    > >
    > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.
    >
    > The TBP did not stand in 2014

    +8% on UKIP.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086

    Sky commentator saying labour may get zero in London!

    There's no way, surely? Labour's core vote in the capital is too strong to reduce down to the low single figures.
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    > @brendan16 said:
    > > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > Sky commentator saying labour may get zero in London!
    >
    > Surely they have got more than 8 per cent in the capital - it can’t be that bad?...

    Not possible. I think he’s overdoing the hyperbole .
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    Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 13,373
    > @HYUFD said:
    > > @Chris said:
    > > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > As we await the UK European election results here is President Trump at the Sumo wrestling in Japan today
    > > >
    > > > https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1132623971139112960?s=20
    > >
    > > How disappointing. I thought you meant he was taking part.
    >
    > He did present the trophy, he has done WWF before

    World Wildlife Fund?
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    franklynfranklyn Posts: 297
    Will be fascinating to see whose predictions on this site are the most inaccurate !

    I can only hope that a really horrific result for both Conservative and Labour knock some sense into them. And who will now want to lead the Conservatives when they face potential wipeout in a General election

    I do feel that Mrs May's greatest misfortune was that she never faced a proper opposition
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    @Ave_it said:

    LD winning everything in London

    Bit like 1906!

    ...................................

    No I wasn't in London ..... but at the Manchester North West count when Winston Churchill won the seat !! .... :smiley:
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    ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    I think I want Gove now.

    Major, major faults, but the only sane choice, seeing as it has to be a Brexiteer.
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    kinabalukinabalu Posts: 39,405
    edited May 2019

    On a non-partisan note - if all the votes have been counted, why will they wait till the early hours to announce them?

    That’s what I was wondering. I have a ton of chocolate and peanuts in but 2 am for London results? - that's a challenge.
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    Con 22.2% Lab 17.0% LD10.2% UKIP 34.2% Green 10.4% BNP 1% Others 5.0% in 2014
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    > @Sean_F said:
    > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > @Sean_F said:
    > > > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > > > @RobD said:
    > > > > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Tsk, another criminal.
    > > > >
    > > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs
    > > >
    > > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.
    > >
    > > The TBP did not stand in 2014
    >
    > +8% on UKIP.

    Same chap reporting a sample from Cardiff: BXP 31%, LD 23%, PC 21%... LAB 10%
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,718
    > @RobD said:
    > 15 mins to go :o :D

    We probably have two hours of insipid talking head chat to get through first.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,207
    > @Peter_the_Punter said:
    > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > @Chris said:
    > > > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > > As we await the UK European election results here is President Trump at the Sumo wrestling in Japan today
    > > > >
    > > > > https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1132623971139112960?s=20
    > > >
    > > > How disappointing. I thought you meant he was taking part.
    > >
    > > He did present the trophy, he has done WWF before
    >
    > World Wildlife Fund?

    WWE sorry
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,380
    Another safe-looking bet, admittedly only at 1.09-1.11: £350 on Tory fewer than NINE seats:

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.158458385
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,358
    > @HYUFD said:
    > As we await the UK European election results here is President Trump at the Sumo wrestling in Japan today
    >
    > https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1132623971139112960?s=20


    https://twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/1132672574809227265
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,021

    > @RobD said:

    > 15 mins to go :o:D



    We probably have two hours of insipid talking head chat to get through first.

    Should be less than 30 mins before the first result.
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    The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    > @Scott_P said:
    > https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1132750369048662018

    I discovered today that Tom Newton Dunn is the son of a former Tory, then LD MEP! Just thought some might find it interesting. I discovered this on wiki completely by accident.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086
    franklyn said:


    I can only hope that a really horrific result for both Conservative and Labour knock some sense into them. And who will now want to lead the Conservatives when they face potential wipeout in a General election

    The true believers among the Tories believe that going no deal will deliver them a majority. SOMehow.

    As for the result knocking sense into them, we can see from the responses before today andafter the anecdotes that that will not be the case. It's more akin to them having suffered a concussion from the blow, but they will insist on stepping out into the ring again anyway, on wobbly feat and shaking hands. Then they will throw up over us.
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    state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,422
    > @NickPalmer said:
    > Another safe-looking bet, admittedly only at 1.09-1.11: £350 on Tory fewer than NINE seats:
    >
    > https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.158458385

    Well - you can bet on that one !
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    brendan16brendan16 Posts: 2,315
    edited May 2019

    > @Sean_F said:

    > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > @Sean_F said:

    > > > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > > > @RobD said:

    > > > > > > @Gallowgate said:

    > > > > > >



    > > > > >

    > > > > > Tsk, another criminal.

    > > > >

    > > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs

    > > >

    > > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.

    > >

    > > The TBP did not stand in 2014

    >

    > +8% on UKIP.



    Same chap reporting a sample from Cardiff: BXP 31%, LD 23%, PC 21%... LAB 10%
    Cardiff is the Just about the most remain council Area in Wales which suggests the BXP have topped the poll in the principality?

    Surely the valleys will give Labour more votes?
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,173
    > @brokenwheel said:
    > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    >
    >
    >
    > Con 22.2% Lab 17.0% LD10.2% UKIP 34.2% Green 10.4% BNP 1% Others 5.0% in 2014

    Staggered the LDs got 10% in Portsmouth in 2014. Were there local elections that day?
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,881

    > @Sean_F said:

    > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > @Sean_F said:

    > > > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > > > @RobD said:

    > > > > > > @Gallowgate said:

    > > > > > >



    > > > > >

    > > > > > Tsk, another criminal.

    > > > >

    > > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs

    > > >

    > > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.

    > >

    > > The TBP did not stand in 2014

    >

    > +8% on UKIP.



    Same chap reporting a sample from Cardiff: BXP 31%, LD 23%, PC 21%... LAB 10%
    He's a fast mover!
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    ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819

    > @RobD said:

    > 15 mins to go :o:D



    We probably have two hours of insipid talking head chat to get through first.

    I know there's no true exit poll, but we do get some sort of "big ben strikes 10 revelation" tonight i hope?
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Ah - just like old days

    On Sky news just now

    " a terrible night for the tories (in Wales)"
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,173
    > @Black_Rook said:
    > > @Sean_F said:
    > > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > > @Sean_F said:
    > > > > > @HYUFD said:
    > > > > > > @RobD said:
    > > > > > > > @Gallowgate said:
    > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Tsk, another criminal.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs
    > > > >
    > > > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.
    > > >
    > > > The TBP did not stand in 2014
    > >
    > > +8% on UKIP.
    >
    > Same chap reporting a sample from Cardiff: BXP 31%, LD 23%, PC 21%... LAB 10%

    Wow, he really gets around. Or makes things up. Delete as appropriate.
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > @IanB2 said:
    > > What might help the Tories is if Labour have a catastrophe aswell .
    > >
    > > Technically, but odds are if Labour are having a really bad night, the Tories will be having a disastrously bad night. It will be some solace if Labour are also well down, but if the Tories truly have held only 1 seat, nothing will mollify things for them. If the calculation of 10 were to happen, sure, but no one seems to believe that.
    > >
    > > If the Tories beat Labour in Norwich that hardly augurs well
    >
    > I can't see it, I think change are 4th, labour 5th, Tories 6th. If Tories are ahead in Norwich labour have completely imploded

    The Tories did control Norwich 1968 - 1970.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086
    HYUFD said:

    > @Peter_the_Punter said:

    > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > @Chris said:

    > > > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > > As we await the UK European election results here is President Trump at the Sumo wrestling in Japan today

    > > > >

    > > > >



    > > >

    > > > How disappointing. I thought you meant he was taking part.

    > >

    > > He did present the trophy, he has done WWF before

    >

    > World Wildlife Fund?



    WWE sorry
    It was probably WWF when he did it the first time.
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,148
    > @Byronic said:
    > I think I want Gove now.
    >
    > Major, major faults, but the only sane choice, seeing as it has to be a Brexiteer.
    >
    >

    It comes to something, doesn't it? Praying for Gove to win the leadership, As we prayed for Theresa May three years ago.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,064
    > @brendan16 said:
    > > @Sean_F said:
    >
    > > > @HYUFD said:
    >
    > > > > @Sean_F said:
    >
    > > > > > @HYUFD said:
    >
    > > > > > > @RobD said:
    >
    > > > > > > > @Gallowgate said:
    >
    > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1132746074895077377
    >
    >
    >
    > > > > > >
    >
    > > > > > > Tsk, another criminal.
    >
    > > > > >
    >
    > > > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs
    >
    > > > >
    >
    > > > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.
    >
    > > >
    >
    > > > The TBP did not stand in 2014
    >
    > >
    >
    > > +8% on UKIP.
    >
    >
    >
    > Same chap reporting a sample from Cardiff: BXP 31%, LD 23%, PC 21%... LAB 10%
    >
    > Cardiff is the Just about the most remain council Area in Wales which suggests the BXP have topped the poll in the principality?
    >
    > Surely the valleys will give Labour more votes?

    Yep. 21% is very good for Plaid in Cardiff too.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,099
    Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
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    hamiltonacehamiltonace Posts: 642
    I think people underestimated the impact the revoke petition had on politics in Britain. It was the moment the students woke up. Just speaking with my son in Hackney, His whole student class voted. 30 out of 30. The only failure was one who was an EU citizen and not allowed to vote. This is a scandal I am sure we will hear more of. They wanted to vote remain and then choose the party. My son went Green.
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    StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    > @Chris said:
    > > @Byronic said:
    > > I think I want Gove now.
    > >
    > > Major, major faults, but the only sane choice, seeing as it has to be a Brexiteer.
    > >
    > >
    >
    > It comes to something, doesn't it? Praying for Gove to win the leadership, As we prayed for Theresa May three years ago.

    This Tory leadership election just gets better and better.
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,064
    From what I remember Cardiff was about 60/40 remain in the referendum. So BXP + Tory + Ukip at 40% seems about right
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    > @justin124 said:
    > > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > > @IanB2 said:
    > > > What might help the Tories is if Labour have a catastrophe aswell .
    > > >
    > > > Technically, but odds are if Labour are having a really bad night, the Tories will be having a disastrously bad night. It will be some solace if Labour are also well down, but if the Tories truly have held only 1 seat, nothing will mollify things for them. If the calculation of 10 were to happen, sure, but no one seems to believe that.
    > > >
    > > > If the Tories beat Labour in Norwich that hardly augurs well
    > >
    > > I can't see it, I think change are 4th, labour 5th, Tories 6th. If Tories are ahead in Norwich labour have completely imploded
    >
    > The Tories did control Norwich 1968 - 1970.

    And they hold Norwich South, but SIXTH?
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited May 2019
    rcs1000 said:

    > @brokenwheel said:

    >



    >

    >

    >

    > Con 22.2% Lab 17.0% LD10.2% UKIP 34.2% Green 10.4% BNP 1% Others 5.0% in 2014



    Staggered the LDs got 10% in Portsmouth in 2014. Were there local elections that day?
    Yes there were.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,012
    > @justin124 said:
    > > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > > @IanB2 said:
    > > > What might help the Tories is if Labour have a catastrophe aswell .
    > > >
    > > > Technically, but odds are if Labour are having a really bad night, the Tories will be having a disastrously bad night. It will be some solace if Labour are also well down, but if the Tories truly have held only 1 seat, nothing will mollify things for them. If the calculation of 10 were to happen, sure, but no one seems to believe that.
    > > >
    > > > If the Tories beat Labour in Norwich that hardly augurs well
    > >
    > > I can't see it, I think change are 4th, labour 5th, Tories 6th. If Tories are ahead in Norwich labour have completely imploded
    >
    > The Tories did control Norwich 1968 - 1970.

    1968 produced some of the most absurd results ever, with the Conservatives winning Islington, Hackney, Camden, Sheffield, Lambeth etc. Labour only kept Newham with the Mayor's casting vote.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    > @justin124 said:
    > > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > > @IanB2 said:
    > > > What might help the Tories is if Labour have a catastrophe aswell .
    > > >
    > > > Technically, but odds are if Labour are having a really bad night, the Tories will be having a disastrously bad night. It will be some solace if Labour are also well down, but if the Tories truly have held only 1 seat, nothing will mollify things for them. If the calculation of 10 were to happen, sure, but no one seems to believe that.
    > > >
    > > > If the Tories beat Labour in Norwich that hardly augurs well
    > >
    > > I can't see it, I think change are 4th, labour 5th, Tories 6th. If Tories are ahead in Norwich labour have completely imploded
    >
    > The Tories did control Norwich 1968 - 1970.

    I'm guessing that vote base has largely 'moved on'
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    StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    edited May 2019
    Sweden official result in two minutes (it will get slightly adjusted in coming days, but teensy)
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,718
    Gentleman Jack?

    What nonsense is this?
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    It is not impossible that Labour could be simultaneously wiped out in the North-East and in Wales tonight.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Not quite the same tension as a GE! :lol:
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    ChrisChris Posts: 11,148
    > @hamiltonace said:
    > I think people underestimated the impact the revoke petition had on politics in Britain. It was the moment the students woke up.

    Lunchtime? I didn't remember that.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,881
    rcs1000 said:

    > @Black_Rook said:

    > > @Sean_F said:

    > > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > > @Sean_F said:

    > > > > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > > > > @RobD said:

    > > > > > > > @Gallowgate said:

    > > > > > > >



    > > > > > >

    > > > > > > Tsk, another criminal.

    > > > > >

    > > > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs

    > > > >

    > > > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.

    > > >

    > > > The TBP did not stand in 2014

    > >

    > > +8% on UKIP.

    >

    > Same chap reporting a sample from Cardiff: BXP 31%, LD 23%, PC 21%... LAB 10%



    Wow, he really gets around. Or makes things up. Delete as appropriate.

    Snap!

    Plus, what's he seeing counted? - postal votes or polling station votes? I suspect the results will be different for each.

    It'll be interesting to see how closely the actiual Portsmouth results match this sample.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,173
    @brendan16 said:
    Cardiff is the Just about the most remain council Area in Wales which suggests the BXP have topped the poll in the principality?

    Surely the valleys will give Labour more votes?

    +++++++++++++++

    Given Wales is more Leavey than the UK as a whole, and given you probably only need 26-28% to top the polls in Wales, I would be utterly staggered if they did not come first in the Principality.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Here we go everyone: 20 seconds until liftoff.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    I am delighted to announce that BoZo has been playing close attention to this campaign, and has decided to emulate Labour...

    https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1132751912825237505
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 19,099
    brendan16 said:

    Cardiff is the Just about the most remain council Area in Wales which suggests the BXP have topped the poll in the principality?

    Surely the valleys will give Labour more votes?

    At a guess, no. Lab have begu to loosen ots hold on the Valleys, with Plaid and Ukip (now BXP) attacking it from different directions. If you're a remainer in the Valleys, who are you going to vote for? If you're a leaver in the Valleys, who are you going to vote for? Labour is beginning to become the answer to a question that's no longer being asked...

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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    > @TheWhiteRabbit said:
    > > @justin124 said:
    > > > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > > > @IanB2 said:
    > > > > What might help the Tories is if Labour have a catastrophe aswell .
    > > > >
    > > > > Technically, but odds are if Labour are having a really bad night, the Tories will be having a disastrously bad night. It will be some solace if Labour are also well down, but if the Tories truly have held only 1 seat, nothing will mollify things for them. If the calculation of 10 were to happen, sure, but no one seems to believe that.
    > > > >
    > > > > If the Tories beat Labour in Norwich that hardly augurs well
    > > >
    > > > I can't see it, I think change are 4th, labour 5th, Tories 6th. If Tories are ahead in Norwich labour have completely imploded
    > >
    > > The Tories did control Norwich 1968 - 1970.
    >
    > And they hold Norwich South, but SIXTH?

    North, Norwich south is Clive Lewis
    Chloe Smith holds Nch Nth for the Tories (just)
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Who won then?
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > @TheWhiteRabbit said:
    > > > @justin124 said:
    > > > > @dyedwoolie said:
    > > > > > @IanB2 said:
    > > > > > What might help the Tories is if Labour have a catastrophe aswell .
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Technically, but odds are if Labour are having a really bad night, the Tories will be having a disastrously bad night. It will be some solace if Labour are also well down, but if the Tories truly have held only 1 seat, nothing will mollify things for them. If the calculation of 10 were to happen, sure, but no one seems to believe that.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > If the Tories beat Labour in Norwich that hardly augurs well
    > > > >
    > > > > I can't see it, I think change are 4th, labour 5th, Tories 6th. If Tories are ahead in Norwich labour have completely imploded
    > > >
    > > > The Tories did control Norwich 1968 - 1970.
    > >
    > > And they hold Norwich South, but SIXTH?
    >
    > North, Norwich south is Clive Lewis
    > Chloe Smith holds Nch Nth for the Tories (just)

    Amendment gratefully accepted
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,012
    > @Casino_Royale said:
    > Gentleman Jack?
    >
    > What nonsense is this?

    Titillating historical drama about lesbians is all the rage.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,173
    @Benpointer said:
    Snap!

    Plus, what's he seeing counted? - postal votes or polling station votes? I suspect the results will be different for each.

    It'll be interesting to see how closely the actiual Portsmouth results match this sample.

    +++++++++++++++

    Plus different boxes will have different results anyway. Some areas will be Remain friendly, others Leave.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,542
    I am ready, man! Ready to get it on! :)
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    sarissasarissa Posts: 1,802
    Edinburgh turnout reported as 50.2% - up 8 percentage points.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    edited May 2019
    Italy

    Exit poll for La7

    Lega 26-29
    PD 21-24
    5 Stars 20-23
    Forza Italia 9-11
    Brothers of Italy 5-7
    +Europa 2.5-3.5


    Exit poll for Rai

    Lega 27-31
    PD 21-25
    5 Stars 18.5-22.5
    Forza Italia 8-12
    Brothers of Italy 5-7.5
    +Europa 2.5-4.5
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,173
    I was going to change the commenting system today. But I don't think that's going to happen...
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,023
    Absolute meltdown of the Tory vote.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,663
    edited May 2019
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,559

    rcs1000 said:

    > @Black_Rook said:

    > > @Sean_F said:

    > > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > > @Sean_F said:

    > > > > > @HYUFD said:

    > > > > > > @RobD said:

    > > > > > > > @Gallowgate said:

    > > > > > > >



    > > > > > >

    > > > > > > Tsk, another criminal.

    > > > > >

    > > > > > Goodness, maybe some of the polls even underestimated the Brexit Party as well as the LDs

    > > > >

    > > > > +18% for the Lib Dems, +8% for TBP on 2014, if that turns out to be the case.

    > > >

    > > > The TBP did not stand in 2014

    > >

    > > +8% on UKIP.

    >

    > Same chap reporting a sample from Cardiff: BXP 31%, LD 23%, PC 21%... LAB 10%



    Wow, he really gets around. Or makes things up. Delete as appropriate.

    Snap!

    Plus, what's he seeing counted? - postal votes or polling station votes? I suspect the results will be different for each.

    It'll be interesting to see how closely the actiual Portsmouth results match this sample.
    As I have said before, sampling can be very accurate, but only if you are looking at a representative sample to start with. Wards won’t be well mixed and a sample taken from one table will be looking at one end of an area only. In Portsmouth it matters hugely whether the sample is from North or South.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,909
    Andrew Hawkins


    @Andrew_ComRes
    Follow Follow @Andrew_ComRes
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    We can now publish postal votes from final @ComRes poll (before T May's speech) based on 20% of total voting sample:
    BRX 34%
    Lab 22%
    Con 12%
    LD 11%
    CHUK 5%
    Other (inc Grn) 12%
    #EuropeanElectionResults
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Happy 70th birthday today to Jeremy Corbyn.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086
    So, messages from the parties tonight

    BXP - The establishment has been defeated, and we must leave with no deal
    LDs - The establishment (not us, we promise) has been defeated, and we must remain
    LAB - Look, don't blame us ok, we did better than the Tories at least
    Con - *sobs quietly* leave me along, alright?
    Green - even though we came behind another remain party, clearly we are the voice of the people
    UKIP - When you think about it, BXP just copied us so we really came top
    CUK - I am proud to be a member of the LDs.
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    maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,391
    Do we get a ballot box daisy chain in Sunderland?
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    ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    Jeremy Corbyn is 70 today (says the BBC). He is too old for this game.
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    maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,391
    > @Byronic said:
    > Jeremy Corbyn is 70 today (says the BBC). He is too old for this game.
    >
    >

    Too thick is the bigger issue.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,173
    > @AndreaParma_82 said:
    > Italy
    >
    > Exit poll for La7
    >
    > Lega 26-29
    > PD 21-24
    > 5 Stars 20-23
    > Forza Italia 9-11
    > Brothers of Italy 5-7
    > +Europa
    >
    >
    > Exit poll for Rai
    >
    > Lega 27-31
    > PD 21-25
    > 5 Stars 18.5-22.5
    > Forza Italia 8-12
    > Brothers of Italy 5-7.5
    > +Europa 2.5-4.5

    Great result from Lega. Probably slightly better than expected for PD. Disappointing for M5S.
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    timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    Brexit 17307
    Lib Dem 18706
    Conservative 4863
    Labour 5563
    Green 4663
    Change 2062

    Sutton result
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    dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 28,038
    Yaxley-Lennon concedes defeat.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    @Casino_Royale said:

    Gentleman Jack?

    What nonsense is this?

    ...................................

    Qui !?!?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,086

    Andrew Hawkins





    @Andrew_ComRes

    Follow Follow @Andrew_ComRes

    More

    We can now publish postal votes from final @ComRes poll (before T May's speech) based on 20% of total voting sample:

    BRX 34%

    Lab 22%

    Con 12%

    LD 11%

    CHUK 5%

    Other (inc Grn) 12%

    #EuropeanElectionResults

    Tories would happily take 12% overall.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
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