It looks like some sort of revolutionary Socialist mural. Presumably, the woman in the centre symbolises the Labour Party, nourishing the country with her breasts.
The PM inviting opposition parties to meet this evening, where she will presumably just do what she always does and say "it's this deal or no deal or no Brexit".
If the Macron rumours are true then surely a Brexit from Jan-March 2019 (currently 14% in the graph above) is easy money?
The chances of No Deal Brexit or a somehow squeezed-through May Brexit by March 29 must now be 40%+?
Can May squeeze through it within the next 9 days?
Seems to me likely that Macron vetoes an extension request [for now] demanding more clarity from Parliament, Parliament backs MV3 in order to avoid No Deal, then Macron permits a 'short, technical extension' to ratify MV3 with the UK out by May 23.
Yes, that's my interpretation. But the chances of No Deal must now be well over 14%.
Latest thinking:
TMay's deal and short extension: 40% No deal: 30% Referendum and long extension: 10% Revoke: 10% General Election and long extension: 5% Anglo-Chinese war: 5%
What chance an Independence Day style alien invasion blitzing of the HOC.
SO24 motion goes to a debate immediately after 10 minute rule motion for up to three hours
3 hours. Could MPs perhaps just hold up signs saying "what I said earlier". There's been precious little to no creative thought or sparkling intellects on display for the last 2 years. Debates where opinions are frozen in aspic will not push the world forward.
May knows there's no extension coming so she's telling everyone it's no deal or revoke. At a total uneducated made-up-off-the-top-of-my-head guess.
Best guesses, in descending order of likelihood: 1. TMay offers to resign if her Deal passes 2. She's calling a GE 3. Revocation 4. She's legally changing her name to Raymond and going to live in Bhutan
If the meetings with the leaders tonight are with both TM and Lidington my guess is she is standing down and Lidington taking over though she carries on as PM until her successor is appointed
It looks like some sort of revolutionary Socialist mural. Presumably, the woman in the centre symbolises the Labour Party, nourishing the country with her breasts.
Why is Corbyn grimacing at his neck tit massage.
Given the rest of the mural, I'm assuming Mary Lou Mcdonald
May knows there's no extension coming so she's telling everyone it's no deal or revoke. At a total uneducated made-up-off-the-top-of-my-head guess.
Best guesses, in descending order of likelihood: 1. TMay offers to resign if her Deal passes 2. She's calling a GE 3. Revocation 4. She's legally changing her name to Raymond and going to live in Bhutan
The PM inviting opposition parties to meet this evening, where she will presumably just do what she always does and say "it's this deal or no deal or no Brexit".
If the Macron rumours are true then surely a Brexit from Jan-March 2019 (currently 14% in the graph above) is easy money?
The chances of No Deal Brexit or a somehow squeezed-through May Brexit by March 29 must now be 40%+?
Can May squeeze through it within the next 9 days?
Seems to me likely that Macron vetoes an extension request [for now] demanding more clarity from Parliament, Parliament backs MV3 in order to avoid No Deal, then Macron permits a 'short, technical extension' to ratify MV3 with the UK out by May 23.
Yes, that's my interpretation. But the chances of No Deal must now be well over 14%.
Latest thinking:
TMay's deal and short extension: 40% No deal: 30% Referendum and long extension: 10% Revoke: 10% General Election and long extension: 5% Anglo-Chinese war: 5%
What chance an Independence Day style alien invasion blitzing of the HOC.
"Remainers. Nuke them. Let's nuke the bastards!"
Pull out and nuke the planet from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.
SO24 motion goes to a debate immediately after 10 minute rule motion for up to three hours
3 hours. Could MPs perhaps just hold up signs saying "what I said earlier". There's been precious little to no creative thought or sparkling intellects on display for the last 2 years. Debates where opinions are frozen in aspic will not push the world forward.
TMay is going to announce that, as many Leavers have long believed, she is actually a lizard, and is second in command to Barak Obama (who actually wasn't born in the US, but on a planet called Zog)
What's treacherous is arrogating to yourself the right to delegitimise the widely-held views of others. It's inconsistent with a democracy and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself.
Mr Meeks.
Not at all,this forum is a small middle-class bubble .
The word that offends you and others on here is used regular out there and if the referendum is not respected,you will hear more of it.
Completely correct. Fury bubbles under the surface
And as often the case, the fury is mindless and stupid.
But existant nonetheless. The middle class can't just ignore it because they feel it mindless. That way October revolutions lie
No, it is mindless, and should be called such. People with hate in their hearts - which sums up so much of brexit.
We saw the result of such mindless and stupid thinking in New Zealand last week. 'For Rotherham' indeed...
That's your opinion. And lumping in working class brexiteers with right wing terrorist mass murderers isn't going to make everyone want to save tarquins studies in Germany or the smethursts 3rd overseas holiday
I think there are rather more intelligent working class people that think it is mindless than you want to admit. Your rather patronising view of the working class is that they are all seething with hatred for people from foreign countries and those with children called Tarquin, because it suits your own prejudiced world view.
Whilst I am not a socialist, it may escaped your attention that working class tradition has lead the charge against prejudice and division that is the hallmark of the type of unpleasant nationalism that typifies Brexit apologists.
But, you can’t have that argument both ways.
Plenty of working class people carefully weighed up their choice and decided on balance to vote to Leave, but get called stupid and nasty proles in response.
Dr. Foxy, that'd be a lot more likely if the Government didn't waste money on foreign aid and instead spent it on my sensible suggestion of a small fleet of Death Stars.
It looks like some sort of revolutionary Socialist mural. Presumably, the woman in the centre symbolises the Labour Party, nourishing the country with her breasts.
If the meetings with the leaders tonight are with both TM and Lidington my guess is she is standing down and Lidington taking over though she carries on as PM until her successor is appointed
I may be wrong but you did ask for best guess
Can she do that? She can stand down and suggest to Her Maj that she sends for Lidington. She can't hide in a corner and leave it to DL.
The PM inviting opposition parties to meet this evening, where she will presumably just do what she always does and say "it's this deal or no deal or no Brexit".
If the Macron rumours are true then surely a Brexit from Jan-March 2019 (currently 14% in the graph above) is easy money?
The chances of No Deal Brexit or a somehow squeezed-through May Brexit by March 29 must now be 40%+?
Can May squeeze through it within the next 9 days?
Seems to me likely that Macron vetoes an extension request [for now] demanding more clarity from Parliament, Parliament backs MV3 in order to avoid No Deal, then Macron permits a 'short, technical extension' to ratify MV3 with the UK out by May 23.
Yes, that's my interpretation. But the chances of No Deal must now be well over 14%.
Latest thinking:
TMay's deal and short extension: 40% No deal: 30% Referendum and long extension: 10% Revoke: 10% General Election and long extension: 5% Anglo-Chinese war: 5%
What chance an Independence Day style alien invasion blitzing of the HOC.
"Remainers. Nuke them. Let's nuke the bastards!"
Pull out and nuke the planet from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.
"I don't know if you've been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked pal!"
Can't see May revoking voluntarily and can't see a mechanism to force her to revoke. If no extension is granted I think she says to Parliament it's my deal or no deal but either way we leave on 29 March. I've been wrong before though!
What's treacherous is arrogating to yourself the right to delegitimise the widely-held views of others. It's inconsistent with a democracy and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself.
Mr Meeks.
Not at all,this forum is a small middle-class bubble .
The word that offends you and others on here is used regular out there and if the referendum is not respected,you will hear more of it.
Completely correct. Fury bubbles under the surface
And as often the case, the fury is mindless and stupid.
But existant nonetheless. The middle class can't just ignore it because they feel it mindless. That way October revolutions lie
No, it is mindless, and should be called such. People with hate in their hearts - which sums up so much of brexit.
We saw the result of such mindless and stupid thinking in New Zealand last week. 'For Rotherham' indeed...
That's your opinion. And lumping in working class brexiteers with right wing terrorist mass murderers isn't going to make everyone want to save tarquins studies in Germany or the smethursts 3rd overseas holiday
I think there are rather more intelligent working class people that think it is mindless than you want to admit. Your rather patronising view of the working class is that they are all seething with hatred for people from foreign countries and those with children called Tarquin, because it suits your own prejudiced world view.
Whilst I am not a socialist, it may escaped your attention that working class tradition has lead the charge against prejudice and division that is the hallmark of the type of unpleasant nationalism that typifies Brexit apologists.
But, you can’t have that argument both ways.
Plenty of working class people carefully weighed up their choice and decided on balance to vote to Leave, but get called stupid and nasty proles in response.
There is polling evidence that the biggest switchers Leave to Remain are WWC in the North.
If he does that makes it deal v no deal by next friday
And Bercow won't let the commons vote for deal...
In those circumstances he would have no choice
Does anyone know the facts underlying the 1604 ruling against asking the same question twice? I can't find anything on google but I strongly suspect that it was intended to exclude second debates on unbelievably *unimportant* subjects, and is therefore being misapplied here.
It is obviously to stop arseholes doing what the Tories are doing therefore being applied correctly.
Suitably, right this moment, 500m away from Downing Street, the Choir of Westminster Abbey are singing Joubert's apocalyptic anthem 'O Lorde the maker of al thing':
"Let neither us deluded be, Good Lorde, with dreame or phantasy"
If the meetings with the leaders tonight are with both TM and Lidington my guess is she is standing down and Lidington taking over though she carries on as PM until her successor is appointed
I may be wrong but you did ask for best guess
Can she do that? She can stand down and suggest to Her Maj that she sends for Lidington. She can't hide in a corner and leave it to DL.
This sounds much more significant than the maybot simply reiterating the obvious, evermore forcefully: i.e. it's my Deal or No Deal, and we leave on March 29
Remember it has to be something that shocked the Cabinet, and made them all look "very very serious".
"Fellas.. looks like we're going to be at a No Deal, Deal or Revoke moment in 24 hours. I've nailed my colours to the mast.. I'm pushing for MV3 and leaving with a Deal on May 23rd and I'm not about to change my mind. But I appreciate that's not a universal view, and this is big stuff to go through on a whim from me when even the cabinet couldn't agree. So if you lot have another plan, it's time to shit or get off the pot. I'm not going to help you, but I won't whip against motions to sit on Saturday or any of the other procedural stuff which might get in the way."
What's treacherous is arrogating to yourself the right to delegitimise the widely-held views of others. It's inconsistent with a democracy and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself.
Mr Meeks.
Not at all,this forum is a small middle-class bubble .
The word that offends you and others on here is used regular out there and if the referendum is not respected,you will hear more of it.
Completely correct. Fury bubbles under the surface
And as often the case, the fury is mindless and stupid.
But existant nonetheless. The middle class can't just ignore it because they feel it mindless. That way October revolutions lie
No, it is mindless, and should be called such. People with hate in their hearts - which sums up so much of brexit.
We saw the result of such mindless and stupid thinking in New Zealand last week. 'For Rotherham' indeed...
That's your opinion. And lumping in working class brexiteers with right wing terrorist mass murderers isn't going to make everyone want to save tarquins studies in Germany or the smethursts 3rd overseas holiday
I think there are rather more intelligent working class people that think it is mindless than you want to admit. Your rather patronising view of the working class is that they are all seething with hatred for people from foreign countries and those with children called Tarquin, because it suits your own prejudiced world view.
Whilst I am not a socialist, it may escaped your attention that working class tradition has lead the charge against prejudice and division that is the hallmark of the type of unpleasant nationalism that typifies Brexit apologists.
But, you can’t have that argument both ways.
Plenty of working class people carefully weighed up their choice and decided on balance to vote to Leave, but get called stupid and nasty proles in response.
That was their prerogative. I have a number of my relatives that voted leave. Those who voted that way are not necessarily stupid at all. I could say possibly misinformed or possible gullible, but I accept that is opinion. There is also a large number of people that voted that way (sad to say including some of my relatives) from a motivation that was pure prejudice against foreigners. This is not necessarily limited to the so-called "working class", and far from it. This was encouraged by people like Farage with his famous poster that was designed to feed on people's fears
May knows there's no extension coming so she's telling everyone it's no deal or revoke. At a total uneducated made-up-off-the-top-of-my-head guess.
Best guesses, in descending order of likelihood: 1. TMay offers to resign if her Deal passes 2. She's calling a GE 3. Revocation 4. She's legally changing her name to Raymond and going to live in Bhutan
Why would 1. cause grim faces from Cabinet? There'd be impossible-to-supress looks of glee......
This sounds much more significant than the maybot simply reiterating the obvious, evermore forcefully: i.e. it's my Deal or No Deal, and we leave on March 29
Remember it has to be something that shocked the Cabinet, and made them all look "very very serious".
She’ll say this exit deal is NOT THE FUCKING LONG TERM DEAL YOU BELL ENDS.
Her actually doing that is about the only thing that would make me vote Tory again. As long as she did it while holding David Davis in a headlock, of course.
Well, this can only mean one thing. Both May and Corbyn are going to resign and order their parties to be dissolved with immediate effect. The SNP will declare an independent Scotland and Vince Cable will be left with the task of saving us all in coalition with Plaid and the Greens and the TIG.
Once done, this will usher in a centrist utopia where nobody will ever have the wobbles.
This sounds much more significant than the maybot simply reiterating the obvious, evermore forcefully: i.e. it's my Deal or No Deal, and we leave on March 29
Remember it has to be something that shocked the Cabinet, and made them all look "very very serious".
This sounds much more significant than the maybot simply reiterating the obvious, evermore forcefully: i.e. it's my Deal or No Deal, and we leave on March 29
Remember it has to be something that shocked the Cabinet, and made them all look "very very serious".
This sounds much more significant than the maybot simply reiterating the obvious, evermore forcefully: i.e. it's my Deal or No Deal, and we leave on March 29
Remember it has to be something that shocked the Cabinet, and made them all look "very very serious".
"Nothing Has Changed" would do that in the circumstances because of the level of denial it implies.
God. Do you remember the days when everyone was sweating about whether the deal would be agreed at the September or December summit, in case there wasn't enough time to sort the practicalities out?
Happy, carefree times.
Do you remember the discussions on whether or not a successful Brexit would bring an electoral dividend or not?
My respect for the Queen is so high she makes me want to live under an absolute monarchy*.
(*this applies solely to her)
I am not a royalist, but I would agree with you there. The only problem is that the appointed successor is the Regal equivalent of a hybrid between Theresa May and Gordon Brown
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Adonis, AC Grayling, Blair and entire ERG to be stripped of their citizenships.
1. TMay offers to resign if her Deal passes
2. She's calling a GE
3. Revocation
4. She's legally changing her name to Raymond and going to live in Bhutan
I may be wrong but you did ask for best guess
Plenty of working class people carefully weighed up their choice and decided on balance to vote to Leave, but get called stupid and nasty proles in response.
Sara Pascoe?
I’d rather have another 3 years of faffing on Brexit.
Oh god this is insane.
(*this applies solely to her)
https://www.survation.com/what-does-the-british-public-now-think-about-brexit/
"Let neither us deluded be,
Good Lorde, with dreame or phantasy"
(It's on Radio 3 live right now.)
She’ll say this exit deal is NOT THE FUCKING LONG TERM DEAL YOU BELL ENDS.
Remember it has to be something that shocked the Cabinet, and made them all look "very very serious".
....unless....
.....gulp.....
Boris has agreed to be interim PM?
Well, this can only mean one thing. Both May and Corbyn are going to resign and order their parties to be dissolved with immediate effect. The SNP will declare an independent Scotland and Vince Cable will be left with the task of saving us all in coalition with Plaid and the Greens and the TIG.
Once done, this will usher in a centrist utopia where nobody will ever have the wobbles.
"No Deal it is then...."
(I think it's the 28th March, to answer your question)
Mind, it isn't got a time on it!
EU have turned down extension and told TM in advance.
TM is going to stand there and say the choice is now my deal or no deal because there’s no time otherwise.
She’s called the opposition parties in to tell them there will be no deal unless they whip their MPs to pass the deal.
She might throw a resignation-once-deal-is-passed in there but I think that’s unlikely.
I do hope I live long enough to see the knockabout comedy film that will eventually be made.
Won't it be a let-down if it's just the EU saying no to an extension?
This is like Paris a week before the Blitzkrieg. The Bunker in Berlin as the Red Army shells exploded overhead. Gotterdammerung.
It requires gin.
As a non-brie-eater, it doesn't take up much space.