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  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    The only number you can rely on today are those saying they won't vote for May.

    Within those declaring they are "supporting" her will be a significant number of duplicitous bastards. Inside Cabinet too. Politics at its least edifying.

    Gove said "100%".

    As in 100% there will be a vote on her deal Tuesday...
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    kyf_100 said:

    If only there were some website where all these so-called "tweets" were collated

    You're reading it...
  • TGOHF said:

    glw said:

    Scott_P said:
    That sounds like the sort of thing idiots expecting to lose would say.
    If May doesn't win by enough, she'll still be fatally wounded. Her entire schtick is to try to credibly claim there's a public route to her deal getting through Parliament. If 80+ of her party say WE WANT YOU GONE, then even her dimwit chief whip should be able to realise those numbers don't add up.
    As one Tory MP said on R5 : "stamina isn't strategy".

    I think the Whip knows only too well the numbers don't add up. He's been telling her for days, hence the pulling of the MV.
  • Colours nailed to mast. I've invested a whole £25 on Theresa May losing at 3/1 less Betfair's commission. There is not much liquidity yet but activity should pick up this afternoon.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    edited December 2018
    Election Maps thinks it's C177 NC81 so far (68.6%).

    You'd think some of those Cs will be lying payroll though - say 10. Assuming the 58 undeclared break evenly (big assumption I know), that leaves it at 65/35, which isn't pretty for the PM.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,728

    The only number you can rely on today are those saying they won't vote for May.

    Within those declaring they are "supporting" her will be a significant number of duplicitous bastards. Inside Cabinet too. Politics at its least edifying.

    Brexiteers are all duplicitous bastards. Always have been, always will be, every single one of them. There's not an ounce of honour or intelligence amongst them.

    They can't help it. They were bastards to Major, they were bastards to Cameron, and now they're being bastards to May.

    You support bastards. ;)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,627
    TGOHF said:

    TGOHF said:

    Ding dong the witch is dead.

    Or possibly undead.
    Will Olly Robbins still get his bonus this year ?
    He'll still get his gong in her resignation honours list.....
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    TGOHF said:

    glw said:

    Scott_P said:
    That sounds like the sort of thing idiots expecting to lose would say.
    If May doesn't win by enough, she'll still be fatally wounded. Her entire schtick is to try to credibly claim there's a public route to her deal getting through Parliament. If 80+ of her party say WE WANT YOU GONE, then even her dimwit chief whip should be able to realise those numbers don't add up.
    As one Tory MP said on R5 : "stamina isn't strategy".

    Someone who toiled through wind and snow and gloom of night to deliver me a bucket of cold vomit might feel somewhat underappreciated.

    That said, I don't mind her deal. Brexit is Brexit. I voted to Leave, I didn't get to specify that it had to be with two somersaults and a reverse pike.
  • For me the absolute key is this - in the privacy of the ballot box will the remain Tory MPs vote to knife her, in the hope that in the ensuing chaos Brexit is somehow cancelled. If they vote for May, Brexit is virtually assured. If they think like this, none of them are going to admit this publicly. I am betting on her to lose. She looks weak. They don't really like her. In the ballot box, how many Conservative MPs are really going to vote to support her? Maybe some to save their jobs out of fear of an election, but probably not a vast number. Keep her or get rid of her and see what happens - I think they will take option 2 given the chance of doing so without any accountability. I am loading up on the 4 on her to lose.
  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047
    Fenster said:
    How long have the ERG had to prepare for this? Well, not the 42 years they had to come up with a plausible Brexit plan, but long enough surely?
  • Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414
    edited December 2018

    The only number you can rely on today are those saying they won't vote for May.

    Within those declaring they are "supporting" her will be a significant number of duplicitous bastards. Inside Cabinet too. Politics at its least edifying.

    Brexiteers are all duplicitous bastards. Always have been, always will be, every single one of them. There's not an ounce of honour or intelligence amongst them.

    They can't help it. They were bastards to Major, they were bastards to Cameron, and now they're being bastards to May.

    You support bastards. ;)
    IIRC the original "duplicitous bastard" was Lord Carrington (per Al Haig) which almost makes it sound like a compliment.
  • Colours nailed to mast. I've invested a whole £25 on Theresa May losing at 3/1 less Betfair's commission. There is not much liquidity yet but activity should pick up this afternoon.

    Just followed suit.

    I think she'll scrape through, but worth a flutter with a couple of quid.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,627

    The only number you can rely on today are those saying they won't vote for May.

    Within those declaring they are "supporting" her will be a significant number of duplicitous bastards. Inside Cabinet too. Politics at its least edifying.

    Brexiteers are all duplicitous bastards. Always have been, always will be, every single one of them. There's not an ounce of honour or intelligence amongst them.

    They can't help it. They were bastards to Major, they were bastards to Cameron, and now they're being bastards to May.

    You support bastards. ;)
    Everywhere I look, I see bastards.....
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,167
    edited December 2018
    bazzer72 said:

    For me the absolute key is this - in the privacy of the ballot box will the remain Tory MPs vote to knife her, in the hope that in the ensuing chaos Brexit is somehow cancelled. If they vote for May, Brexit is virtually assured. If they think like this, none of them are going to admit this publicly. I am betting on her to lose. She looks weak. They don't really like her. In the ballot box, how many Conservative MPs are really going to vote to support her? Maybe some to save their jobs out of fear of an election, but probably not a vast number. Keep her or get rid of her and see what happens - I think they will take option 2 given the chance of doing so without any accountability. I am loading up on the 4 on her to lose.

    Yes, as I mentioned below, the remainer calculations of delay - out of the control of any future leader, rather than May's delay calculations - could end being very important. May presented this as a danger in her speech this morning, but some may see this as a possible benefit.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    I'm fully behind the PM and think she'll win. ^____________~
  • Norm said:

    That 2019 GE point is an interesting one. Despite the FTPA it must at least be an outside chance. May at the helm?

    That is what Tory MPs need to also think about. Can they face a GE with another one of her barnstorming campaigns, criss-crossing the country avoiding the public, repeating 'stable' and ducking out of TV interviews and debates?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,728

    The only number you can rely on today are those saying they won't vote for May.

    Within those declaring they are "supporting" her will be a significant number of duplicitous bastards. Inside Cabinet too. Politics at its least edifying.

    Brexiteers are all duplicitous bastards. Always have been, always will be, every single one of them. There's not an ounce of honour or intelligence amongst them.

    They can't help it. They were bastards to Major, they were bastards to Cameron, and now they're being bastards to May.

    You support bastards. ;)
    Everywhere I look, I see bastards.....
    I won't ask how near you are to a mirror ... ;)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,631
    AndyJS said:

    Desmond Swayne on Radio Five Live says he hasn't made up his mind yet. First Tory MP I've heard say that.

    He says he didn't submit a letter, and didn't want a contest. But could still vote against May.

    Mrs M
    The pulling of the parliamentary vote has likely upset those on both sides.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    *Private voice* 1.26 looks a big lay to me.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,627

    The only number you can rely on today are those saying they won't vote for May.

    Within those declaring they are "supporting" her will be a significant number of duplicitous bastards. Inside Cabinet too. Politics at its least edifying.

    Brexiteers are all duplicitous bastards. Always have been, always will be, every single one of them. There's not an ounce of honour or intelligence amongst them.

    They can't help it. They were bastards to Major, they were bastards to Cameron, and now they're being bastards to May.

    You support bastards. ;)
    Everywhere I look, I see bastards.....
    I won't ask how near you are to a mirror ... ;)
    Just looking at pb.com.....
  • The statements of public support by MPs are ( largely ) noise when we need signal.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220

    The statements of public support by MPs are ( largely ) noise when we need signal.

    1.22 amazingly short.
  • It's amazing to me that she is now nearly a 1/5 chance; what are these people seeing we are missing?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    bazzer72 said:

    It's amazing to me that she is now nearly a 1/5 chance; what are these people seeing we are missing?

    They are believing Tory MPs.........
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited December 2018
    Pulpstar said:

    The statements of public support by MPs are ( largely ) noise when we need signal.

    1.22 amazingly short.
    I think she'll probably hold on but betting against is probably going to be value. There'll most likely be a rumour at some stage tonight that she's lost even if she hasn't, and the markets will overreact to it.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,627
    Tonight will at least give us some accurate seasonal polling on how many turkeys vote for Christmas.....
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    183/81
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Pulpstar said:

    The statements of public support by MPs are ( largely ) noise when we need signal.

    1.22 amazingly short.
    It could well get shorter
  • Public statements well in favour of May.

    But 1/5 does represent the risk fairly enough, I think, that they are a bunch of hypocrites.
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    TGOHF said:

    The only number you can rely on today are those saying they won't vote for May.

    Within those declaring they are "supporting" her will be a significant number of duplicitous bastards. Inside Cabinet too. Politics at its least edifying.

    Gove said "100%".

    As in 100% there will be a vote on her deal Tuesday...
    I’m not saying Gove will vote for her but he was sent out to say the vote would happen by no 10 immediately before it was canned
  • If a vast majority of Tory MPs support her publicly and then these numbers are very different to the outcome of the private vote, the Conservatives are basically advertising themselves as untrustworthy liars. Not a good look.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited December 2018
    I'm back btw.

    I lost my @pong logon/password.
  • Welcome to PB, Mr. Ping.

    Bet against May, at 1.19. Odds still declining.
  • ping said:

    I'm back btw.

    I lost my @pong logon/password.

    Welcome back. Popcorn at standby?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited December 2018

    The statements of public support by MPs are ( largely ) noise when we need signal.

    Signal is Tory MPs saying they'll vote against, or are not sure. Those are probably reliable.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    ping said:

    I'm back btw.

    I lost my @pong logon/password.

    Welcome back - Are you backing or laying May ?
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited December 2018
    I took some no confidence @ 3/1 and doubled up at 5/1.

    This could swing wildly during the day.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    edited December 2018
    186/82 (69.4%) with 48 unknowns.

    Betfair roughly TM 5/6, vile traitors 1/6.


    Thresholds: 200, 211 (2/3), 217 (rebels <100), and for pure amusement 268 (rebels=48)
  • AndyJS said:

    The statements of public support by MPs are ( largely ) noise when we need signal.

    Signal is Tory MPs saying they'll vote against, or are not sure. Those are probably reliable.
    Agreed.
  • Bad news for Apprentice fans if Lord Sugar is bounced for the announcement of the result.

    Is that an omen? Jeremy Hunt managed to get a whole series delayed because of Sugar's Labour links. Has anyone backed our esteemed Foreign Secretary at, say, 66/1?
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    i think public declarations will end up at 210/100, take into accounting people lying and you have 190/120 or 180/130.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,690
    Pulpstar said:

    I'm fully behind the PM and think she'll win. ^____________~

    Where do I sign?
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,621
    AndyJS said:

    The statements of public support by MPs are ( largely ) noise when we need signal.

    Signal is Tory MPs saying they'll vote against, or are not sure. Those are probably reliable.
    184 Confidence 81 No Confidence

    The NCs are probably not bluffing.
    It takes about 40% of the Cs to be bluffing for Mrs May to lose this. Seems unlikely.
  • Given so little is going on in politics at the moment, very disappointed not to see a new thread on what tracks would make "Now that's what I call music for people who don't like music" Christmas compilation album.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Scott_P said:
    Difficult to believe he doesn't know the answer at this late stage.
  • Bad news for Apprentice fans if Lord Sugar is bounced for the announcement of the result.

    Is that an omen? Jeremy Hunt managed to get a whole series delayed because of Sugar's Labour links. Has anyone backed our esteemed Foreign Secretary at, say, 66/1?

    110/1
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,627
    Scott_P said:
    Asking which way they will vote before deciding!
  • Scott_P said:
    THought somebody would come up with that at some point today
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    DanSmith said:

    i think public declarations will end up at 210/100, take into accounting people lying and you have 190/120 or 180/130.

    I know it's very cynical but I think the number of false endorsements could be as high as 50.
  • Bad news for Apprentice fans if Lord Sugar is bounced for the announcement of the result.

    Is that an omen? Jeremy Hunt managed to get a whole series delayed because of Sugar's Labour links. Has anyone backed our esteemed Foreign Secretary at, say, 66/1?

    Do people still watch that show? Its gone seriously downhill since the days of Katie Hopkins...let that just sink in.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,408
    If anyone wants an explanation of how we got here I give you

    https://twitter.com/cstross/status/1072806567882432513
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220

    Bad news for Apprentice fans if Lord Sugar is bounced for the announcement of the result.

    Is that an omen? Jeremy Hunt managed to get a whole series delayed because of Sugar's Labour links. Has anyone backed our esteemed Foreign Secretary at, say, 66/1?

    Do people still watch that show? Its gone seriously downhill since the days of Katie Hopkins...let that just sink in.
    Every wednesday :)
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,293
    Scott_P said:
    That sounds like #FakeNews as it was reported only yesterday that an ERG delegation had been talking with Sir Graham about how they could fast track the leadership procees?
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    Andrew said:

    Election Maps thinks it's C177 NC81 so far (68.6%).

    You'd think some of those Cs will be lying payroll though - say 10. Assuming the 58 undeclared break evenly (big assumption I know), that leaves it at 65/35, which isn't pretty for the PM.

    You just cannot believe the Confident vote, you may not be able to believe the Not confident vote, but should be much more accurate. Any MP is playing to the crowd - for some this may mean appearing disloyal whilst voting for her, but for many more it will to be appear loyal, and then move after a loss.
  • I love this BF confidence vote market; it's a proper oldfashioned betting scrap which reminds me of open outcry futures pits. Little stats/data to go on - just a raw fight with lots of volatility based on money entering the market rather than new information being assessed rationally.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    81 definite NOs and 184 maybes. Will 50 maybes switch to No? Possibly not. They despise May but genuinely don't want to choose someone else?
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    Pulpstar said:

    183/81

    I don’t trust the ElectionMaps tally. It seems to be assuming C/NC from wider positioning (e.g. on the Withdrawal Agreement) rather than on specific pledges today. For example, my local MP is listed as NC but I’m pretty sure he hasn’t made a public statement yet.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    187/83
  • Superdry warns worse to come as profits plunge

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46535682

    I think their problem is they have become clothes for people who like Coldplay.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The fact that Mrs May is doing PMQs today only adds more interest to the day. She's very unlikely to say something that will change anyone's vote tonight, but you never know.
  • Bad news for Apprentice fans if Lord Sugar is bounced for the announcement of the result.

    Is that an omen? Jeremy Hunt managed to get a whole series delayed because of Sugar's Labour links. Has anyone backed our esteemed Foreign Secretary at, say, 66/1?

    Sugar said this morning on ITV that he would emigrate if Corbyn became PM.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,743

    Superdry warns worse to come as profits plunge

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46535682

    I think their problem is they have become clothes for people who like Coldplay.

    All yellow?
  • bazzer72 said:

    I love this BF confidence vote market; it's a proper oldfashioned betting scrap which reminds me of open outcry futures pits. Little stats/data to go on - just a raw fight with lots of volatility based on money entering the market rather than new information being assessed rationally.

    Also the chance that wealthy antagonists are trying to spin the market one way or the other.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Pulpstar said:

    183/81

    I don’t trust the ElectionMaps tally. It seems to be assuming C/NC from wider positioning (e.g. on the Withdrawal Agreement) rather than on specific pledges today. For example, my local MP is listed as NC but I’m pretty sure he hasn’t made a public statement yet.
    I agree, you can't for instance use general positions on Brexit to work out how people will vote.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    GIN1138 said:

    That sounds like #FakeNews as it was reported only yesterday that an ERG delegation had been talking with Sir Graham about how they could fast track the leadership procees?

    After she loses the vote was their thinking.

    They didn't expect the vote tonight. They wanted to defeat her on Monday, then have their chosen candidate anointed quickly thereafter
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Betting is problematic - 100 against then May wins the vote but is toast.

  • Sky News Breaking
    ‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak

    Former Brexit Secretary David Davis says the UK should reset its Brexit negotiating strategy with the European Union

    and presumably re-set article 50?
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,951
    bazzer72 said:

    I love this BF confidence vote market; it's a proper oldfashioned betting scrap which reminds me of open outcry futures pits. Little stats/data to go on - just a raw fight with lots of volatility based on money entering the market rather than new information being assessed rationally.

    It's a market based almost entirely on how much we believe Conservative MPs are telling the truth.

    I can only quote Sir Humphrey: "You have to get behind someone before you stab them in the back..."
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,028
    FF43 said:

    81 definite NOs and 184 maybes. Will 50 maybes switch to No? Possibly not. They despise May but genuinely don't want to choose someone else?

    Surely anything in triple figures against May is total crap...
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1072808903275094016 Might add some spice into the mix of numbers.
  • NemtynakhtNemtynakht Posts: 2,329
    I’ll repost this from last night

    Talk about hostage to fortune.....

    I think Javid will be PM by the end of the week

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/953068/Sajid-Javid-EU-Brexit-news-Brexiteer-Remainer-Home-Secretary

    I know it’s the express but it sets out that Javid was Eurosceptic, voted remain as worried about economics of Brexit, but has argued for clean Brexit to take advantage of benefits of leaving.

    He has also been effective as Home Secretary - sorted Windrush, medical marijuana, advocate for global immigration policy

    And as I said on here on Monday look on google street view for Stapleton road Bristol - more East Ham rather than Eton, more Oldham rather than Old School Tie. A true watershed moment with the BAME U.K. PM - a way to change the narrative.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    bazzer72 said:

    I love this BF confidence vote market; it's a proper oldfashioned betting scrap which reminds me of open outcry futures pits. Little stats/data to go on - just a raw fight with lots of volatility based on money entering the market rather than new information being assessed rationally.

    3/1 at the moment.

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.152437591
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    glw said:

    Scott_P said:
    That sounds like the sort of thing idiots expecting to lose would say.
    Using ERG referendum logic, a 1 vote win for May will allow her to say she has full support of the Conservative party and can ignore the losers. The will of the majority and all that. The ERG could then campaign for a proper MP vote.
  • I have to say I wasn't expecting to wake up to this ground breaking news this morning.....Team Sky will be no more.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,884
    Listening to R5 this morning driving to Inverness the majority view was what the hell are they doing now? There was the odd voice which claimed we would never get an acceptable deal with May but they were very much in the minority. With the BBC you never know how representative that is but we were regularly being assured this reflected the weight of texts emails and messages.

    If I was a Tory MP today I would be very annoyed that the vote was now and I would have no choice but to back May with gritted teeth.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    May, you live in interesting times.
  • TGOHF said:

    Betting is problematic - 100 against then May wins the vote but is toast.

    Agreed re the binary betting outcome re the politics. You could get against her and lose your money on a result that would still see her out by the weekend.
  • dr_spyn said:

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1072808903275094016 Might add some spice into the mix of numbers.

    In reality, despite what the MayBot has been indicating, it is comes down to a matter of a few votes, she is more toast than Toast of London eating a toasty.
  • NormNorm Posts: 1,251
    Oddly she was the first to call for May to go after the fun of GE2017.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited December 2018
    Pulpstar said:

    ping said:

    I'm back btw.

    I lost my @pong logon/password.

    Welcome back - Are you backing or laying May ?
    A vote of confidence in May is a vote for the destruction of the conservative party.

    This is shitshow^2

    That's not to say she won't win, but it's now or never.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,293

    Sky News Breaking
    ‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak

    Former Brexit Secretary David Davis says the UK should reset its Brexit negotiating strategy with the European Union

    and presumably re-set article 50?

    A new leader, a re-set of A50 and a general election are just some of the highlights we can look forward to in the New Year.

    Merry Christmas. :D
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Another undecided MP — Grant Shapps.
  • AndyJS said:

    Another undecided MP — Grant Shapps.

    And is Mr Green also undecided?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    GIN1138 said:

    Sky News Breaking
    ‏Verified account @SkyNewsBreak

    Former Brexit Secretary David Davis says the UK should reset its Brexit negotiating strategy with the European Union

    and presumably re-set article 50?

    A new leader, a re-set of A50 and a general election are just some of the highlights we can look forward to in the New Year.

    Merry Christmas. :D
    Still not seeing a GE next year.
  • Superdry warns worse to come as profits plunge

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46535682

    I think their problem is they have become clothes for people who like Coldplay.

    They've been a victim of their own success. Even I have Superdry gear!
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,951

    TGOHF said:

    Betting is problematic - 100 against then May wins the vote but is toast.

    Agreed re the binary betting outcome re the politics. You could get against her and lose your money on a result that would still see her out by the weekend.
    You can get 3/1 on Oct 2018 - Dec 2018 as TMay's exit date on BF exchange right now.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    I think I'd lie if I was a Tory MP now, voting for May would be disastrous.
  • DanSmith said:
    I've not seen this much excitement, since Coldplay last announced a world tour.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    dr_spyn said:

    Spectator is collating tweets backing May.

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/12/the-full-list-of-tory-mps-backing-theresa-may/

    as others posted public support isn't always reflected in a secret ballot.

    When I have a moment I'll categorise into those actually backing May and those decrying a leadership contest taking place.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    kyf_100 said:

    TGOHF said:

    Betting is problematic - 100 against then May wins the vote but is toast.

    Agreed re the binary betting outcome re the politics. You could get against her and lose your money on a result that would still see her out by the weekend.
    You can get 3/1 on Oct 2018 - Dec 2018 as TMay's exit date on BF exchange right now.
    I'm on the other side of that !
  • I’ll repost this from last night

    Talk about hostage to fortune.....

    I think Javid will be PM by the end of the week

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/953068/Sajid-Javid-EU-Brexit-news-Brexiteer-Remainer-Home-Secretary

    I know it’s the express but it sets out that Javid was Eurosceptic, voted remain as worried about economics of Brexit, but has argued for clean Brexit to take advantage of benefits of leaving.

    He has also been effective as Home Secretary - sorted Windrush, medical marijuana, advocate for global immigration policy

    And as I said on here on Monday look on google street view for Stapleton road Bristol - more East Ham rather than Eton, more Oldham rather than Old School Tie. A true watershed moment with the BAME U.K. PM - a way to change the narrative.
    Don't fancy a no dealer at the helm.....
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    Another undecided MP — Grant Shapps.

    And is Mr Green also undecided?
    Damian Green says he'll vote in favour of Mrs May.
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