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    PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083

    Mrs C, Yorkshire is a flourishing and bountiful land, nourished by the timely rain. Not a parched realm of nightmares, like Mordor.

    Leave Derbyshire out of this.....
    Derbyshire has been left out of everything since the dawn of civilisation.....
    It is slowly creeping up on Sheffield though. It seems to get closer every time I go over Snake Pass.
    It's a sneaky county, Derbyshire. You've got to watch it like a hawk....
    It is so bleak up in the hills. If you car has a problem up there then you might as well be on the back of the moon as far as mobile phones are concerned.
    My first car was an ex-National Rivers Authority Land Rover 110. It nearly killed me three times, including once when I was travelling over the tops between Chesterfield and Matlock on a foggy night and lost all electrics, including lights.

    My brother had much more fun with his Land Rover, including the time he was on its roof and it rolled onto him. That's an impressive feat!
    I regularly drive past the Land Rover factory in Liverpool. There are plenty more of them to go around so tell your brother not to worry too much ;)
    I don't think they make the classic Land Rover any more? It's all Freeloaders and Piscoverys now, isn't it. :(

    I saw a figure somewhere for the percentage of Land Rovers made that are still in existence: it was remarkably high. You just can't kill them.
    I took my 110 to the Royal Cornwall Show today. Car parks are a mud bath, and as a result it's now mud spattered from sill to roof. I may have taken a few "alternative" routes. Can't stop smiling.

    (And saw the new Disco there. Don't know what they're doing - possibly the ugliest vehicle I've ever seen)
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662

    hmmm majority still stubbornly at 1.2- thought we would have seen tightening by now

    I'm also surprised, but my betting fund is now all committed (mostly at 1.28) and I don't intend to trade out before 10pm.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Ave_it said:

    Where's malcolmG?

    Ayr, I think.

    His quietness tempts me with a few quid on the Ruth Davidson party there.

    Bdtfair seems to be heading the way of a 50-100 majority.

    My pred is unchanged:

    Con 362
    Lab 215
    SNP 40
    LD 11
    PC 3
    Gn 1
    NI 18

    76 majority

    I have just backed some of the run off though as this is a particularly difficult one to predict.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,949
    nunu said:

    alex. said:

    RobD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Ave_it said:

    Where's malcolmG?

    Malc has been VERY quiet recently?
    Turnip season?
    Wasn't he banned?
    He's unbanned now.
    Can't think what Malc would ever do to get himself banned...
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    currystarcurrystar Posts: 1,171

    hmmm majority still stubbornly at 1.2- thought we would have seen tightening by now

    I imagine its due to the EU referendum and burnt fingers
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 63,132
    edited June 2017
    rpjs said:

    Brom said:

    Oldies for Jez.

    https://twitter.com/_AngelaLansbury/status/872559410379444224

    I actually think this is quite a cool celeb endorsement. Obviously runs in the family.

    I would agree. Her grandfather was Labour leader no? I have a lot more respect for her than your Lily Allens or Ruby Tandohs.
    shes not a nice person

    everywhere she goes there are dead bodies
    She did help stop the Nazis from invading back around 1940, with a bit of help from the boys of the old Home Guard.
    You are forgetting her chilling appearance in The Manchurian Candidate.

    #Maomentum

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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Did Jack W make his promised prediction. I didn't see it.
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    Ave_it said:

    Where's malcolmG?

    Ayr, I think.

    His quietness tempts me with a few quid on the Ruth Davidson party there.

    Bdtfair seems to be heading the way of a 50-100 majority.

    My pred is unchanged:

    Con 362
    Lab 215
    SNP 40
    LD 11
    PC 3
    Gn 1
    NI 18

    76 majority

    I have just backed some of the run off though as this is a particularly difficult one to predict.
    If he's in ayr he is going to be keeping quiet tonight! :lol:
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,542
    I'm still holding with a majority of 64-ish. Maybe I'm being too cautious, but I still can't see a landslide happening.
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    JMBJMB Posts: 7
    TudorRose said:

    hmmm majority still stubbornly at 1.2- thought we would have seen tightening by now

    I'm also surprised, but my betting fund is now all committed (mostly at 1.28) and I don't intend to trade out before 10pm.
    But con maj 75-99 dropped from 5 to 3.8 on betfair in last 30 mins - too many people reading this thread?
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    RobD said:

    Dougie said:

    Anecdote - I was called up by someone at a Conservative phonebank today asking if I had voted in Edinburgh North and Leith - which is my constituency. I had and asked him how it was going. He said the Tories were getting their vote out but that it would be close. Of course he would say that anyway, but interesting that the Tories are throwing resources at EN&L at this stage.

    Er, close between Lab and the SNP, surely??
    Look at the switching matrix of Lab to Con, factor in almost total Con retention and SNP vote fall and you get Con anywhere from 2000 votes behind to 2000 votes ahead. The Constituency takes in most of the city centre (elected Ruth Davidson) and some of the most affluent and we'll healed parts of Edinburgh. Don't be fooled by Leith in the consituency name. It takes in Fettes, Trinity and Inverleith where if a house is worthless than half a million it is a hovel.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    bunnco said:

    Four anecdotes from telling in Norwich South [New Costessey Ward - LV1] for 10 hours today...

    1 The polling station Inspector tells me that the queues at the University of East Anglia polling station were transitory and caused by a whole load of students leaving a big exam at the same time and all going off to the polling station before retiring to the pub. Treat twitter pix with caution.

    2 I met a charming lady with two poll cards asking me what to do with the other - her husband died on Tuesday. I just hugged her tightly and then the presiding officer helped her in her grief and looked after the card for her. Lump in the throat time.

    3 Turnout v high at about 75pc - that is about 1100 in the polling station and an additional 500+ postals.

    4 Labour phoned someone who lived 3 doors from the polling station asking him whether he wanted a taxi. He was a committed Tory voter so was perplexed by the offer.

    Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot

    Is the high turnout only in your ward which is one of the more Conservative parts of the constituency ?

    And is the university area having much lower turnout ?

    Surely there's no chance that Labour might not win Norwich South.
    Only if Costessey turns out en masse and the students and city vote don't. He's safe.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034

    bunnco said:

    Four anecdotes from telling in Norwich South [New Costessey Ward - LV1] for 10 hours today...

    1 The polling station Inspector tells me that the queues at the University of East Anglia polling station were transitory and caused by a whole load of students leaving a big exam at the same time and all going off to the polling station before retiring to the pub. Treat twitter pix with caution.

    2 I met a charming lady with two poll cards asking me what to do with the other - her husband died on Tuesday. I just hugged her tightly and then the presiding officer helped her in her grief and looked after the card for her. Lump in the throat time.

    3 Turnout v high at about 75pc - that is about 1100 in the polling station and an additional 500+ postals.

    4 Labour phoned someone who lived 3 doors from the polling station asking him whether he wanted a taxi. He was a committed Tory voter so was perplexed by the offer.

    Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot

    Is the high turnout only in your ward which is one of the more Conservative parts of the constituency ?

    And is the university area having much lower turnout ?

    Surely there's no chance that Labour might not win Norwich South.
    I bloody well hope they do. Surely the Tories can't take Norwich south !
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,771
    rpjs said:

    Brom said:

    Oldies for Jez.

    https://twitter.com/_AngelaLansbury/status/872559410379444224

    I actually think this is quite a cool celeb endorsement. Obviously runs in the family.

    I would agree. Her grandfather was Labour leader no? I have a lot more respect for her than your Lily Allens or Ruby Tandohs.
    shes not a nice person

    everywhere she goes there are dead bodies
    She did help stop the Nazis from invading back around 1940, with a bit of help from the boys of the old Home Guard.
    yes but she'd have welcomed Stalin and his mates from the NKVD
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,915

    Did Jack W make his promised prediction. I didn't see it.

    104 maj
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,710

    Did Jack W make his promised prediction. I didn't see it.

    Yup, Jack's prediction was

    Con 378 .. Lab 199 .. LibDem 8 .. SNP 44 .. PC 3 .. Green 1 .. UKIP 0 .. Speaker 1 .. NI 18

    Con Maj 102

    Turnout 66%
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    JMB said:

    TudorRose said:

    hmmm majority still stubbornly at 1.2- thought we would have seen tightening by now

    I'm also surprised, but my betting fund is now all committed (mostly at 1.28) and I don't intend to trade out before 10pm.
    But con maj 75-99 dropped from 5 to 3.8 on betfair in last 30 mins - too many people reading this thread?
    Timber?
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    DougieDougie Posts: 57
    RobD said:

    Dougie said:

    Anecdote - I was called up by someone at a Conservative phonebank today asking if I had voted in Edinburgh North and Leith - which is my constituency. I had and asked him how it was going. He said the Tories were getting their vote out but that it would be close. Of course he would say that anyway, but interesting that the Tories are throwing resources at EN&L at this stage.

    Er, close between Lab and the SNP, surely??
    You'd have thought. But with the Tories increasing their vote by 11 - 15% Scotland wide, and the SNP apparently declining by 7 - 10%, there are going to be some enormous and unexpected swings in some parts of Scotland.

    For the record my bet is that those swings will be in the north east rather than Edinburgh. Although the Tories will get a good vote in the New Town/Inverleith part of Edinburgh North and Leith, I have a hard time seeing them breaking through into the more populous Leith part of the seat.

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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,154

    bunnco said:

    Four anecdotes from telling in Norwich South [New Costessey Ward - LV1] for 10 hours today...

    1 The polling station Inspector tells me that the queues at the University of East Anglia polling station were transitory and caused by a whole load of students leaving a big exam at the same time and all going off to the polling station before retiring to the pub. Treat twitter pix with caution.

    2 I met a charming lady with two poll cards asking me what to do with the other - her husband died on Tuesday. I just hugged her tightly and then the presiding officer helped her in her grief and looked after the card for her. Lump in the throat time.

    3 Turnout v high at about 75pc - that is about 1100 in the polling station and an additional 500+ postals.

    4 Labour phoned someone who lived 3 doors from the polling station asking him whether he wanted a taxi. He was a committed Tory voter so was perplexed by the offer.

    Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot

    Is the high turnout only in your ward which is one of the more Conservative parts of the constituency ?

    And is the university area having much lower turnout ?

    Surely there's no chance that Labour might not win Norwich South.
    Only if Costessey turns out en masse and the students and city vote don't. He's safe.
    Thanks.

    Norwich South Lab has some of my bank account temporarily residing in it.
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,771
    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    Where's malcolmG?

    Ayr, I think.

    His quietness tempts me with a few quid on the Ruth Davidson party there.

    Bdtfair seems to be heading the way of a 50-100 majority.

    My pred is unchanged:

    Con 362
    Lab 215
    SNP 40
    LD 11
    PC 3
    Gn 1
    NI 18

    76 majority

    I have just backed some of the run off though as this is a particularly difficult one to predict.
    If he's in ayr he is going to be keeping quiet tonight! :lol:
    malc's a shy tory

    hes voting theresa
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    bunnco said:

    Four anecdotes from telling in Norwich South [New Costessey Ward - LV1] for 10 hours today...

    1 The polling station Inspector tells me that the queues at the University of East Anglia polling station were transitory and caused by a whole load of students leaving a big exam at the same time and all going off to the polling station before retiring to the pub. Treat twitter pix with caution.

    2 I met a charming lady with two poll cards asking me what to do with the other - her husband died on Tuesday. I just hugged her tightly and then the presiding officer helped her in her grief and looked after the card for her. Lump in the throat time.

    3 Turnout v high at about 75pc - that is about 1100 in the polling station and an additional 500+ postals.

    4 Labour phoned someone who lived 3 doors from the polling station asking him whether he wanted a taxi. He was a committed Tory voter so was perplexed by the offer.

    Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot

    Is the high turnout only in your ward which is one of the more Conservative parts of the constituency ?

    And is the university area having much lower turnout ?

    Surely there's no chance that Labour might not win Norwich South.
    Only if Costessey turns out en masse and the students and city vote don't. He's safe.
    Thanks.

    Norwich South Lab has some of my bank account temporarily residing in it.
    If it falls then a 200 majority is on. It won't. The city is true red.
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    Think there will be a lot of torn Labour voters out there tonight? Some feeling that Corbyn has to go but know it might take a big Conservative result to force that change? Some perhaps hoping it is a 100 or more Tory majority so to get rid of Corbyn?

    There is a real danger tonight he could do well enough to stay on especially in terms of percentage of the vote. I guess there is the argument if he increases say the vote share that Miliband got that his politics is a viable brand and the country might be open to a hard left government. But if Corbyn is still a major turn off they might never go all the way in letting Labour back in.

    If I was a Labour voter I might want a pasting tonight, get rid of Corbyn and go back to the center left hoping that Brexit damages the Conservatives badly and ready to take over at the next election.
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited June 2017
    RobD said:

    Dougie said:

    Anecdote - I was called up by someone at a Conservative phonebank today asking if I had voted in Edinburgh North and Leith - which is my constituency. I had and asked him how it was going. He said the Tories were getting their vote out but that it would be close. Of course he would say that anyway, but interesting that the Tories are throwing resources at EN&L at this stage.

    Er, close between Lab and the SNP, surely??
    A SLab bod tweeted this. Treat with caution though:
    https://twitter.com/ianssmart/status/872875506349355008
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    EastwingerEastwinger Posts: 351

    bunnco said:

    Four anecdotes from telling in Norwich South [New Costessey Ward - LV1] for 10 hours today...

    1 The polling station Inspector tells me that the queues at the University of East Anglia polling station were transitory and caused by a whole load of students leaving a big exam at the same time and all going off to the polling station before retiring to the pub. Treat twitter pix with caution.

    2 I met a charming lady with two poll cards asking me what to do with the other - her husband died on Tuesday. I just hugged her tightly and then the presiding officer helped her in her grief and looked after the card for her. Lump in the throat time.

    3 Turnout v high at about 75pc - that is about 1100 in the polling station and an additional 500+ postals.

    4 Labour phoned someone who lived 3 doors from the polling station asking him whether he wanted a taxi. He was a committed Tory voter so was perplexed by the offer.

    Bunnco - Your Man on the Spot

    Is the high turnout only in your ward which is one of the more Conservative parts of the constituency ?

    And is the university area having much lower turnout ?

    Surely there's no chance that Labour might not win Norwich South.
    Only if Costessey turns out en masse and the students and city vote don't. He's safe.
    Big turnout here in the Golden Triangle. Clive will increase his majority.
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    bunncobunnco Posts: 169
    Can't really say about turnout in the rest of the constituency in Norwich South- NewCostessey is held exclusively by LibDem candidates at the district & county councils so it isn't traditionally Tory. That said, it looked quite Blue today.

    re the University ward turnout - You need to remember that voter registration in University ward is only 64% of the Norwich South ward average but theory should suggest that the number of voters in each ward should be equal. So the the students just aren't registered to vote.

    Couple that with the fact that term finished on 19th May with only those with exams staying on.

    So I suspect a double whammy repeated all over
    Low student voter registration
    Low turnout because either they've gone home. Or just can't be arsed.

    And if they're registered to vote at home instead by mummy and daddy, there's a good chance their Corbynistic tendancies will be diluted.



    Is the high turnout only in your ward which is one of the more Conservative parts of the constituency ?

    And is the university area having much lower turnout ?

    Surely there's no chance that Labour might not win Norwich South.

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    LucyJonesLucyJones Posts: 651
    CD13 said:

    Mr P,

    My favourite Wigan joke which bears re-telling while we're waiting for the exit poll. Not suitable for snowflakes.

    A St Helens man goes to Wigan and sees a little girl crying her eyes out at the side of the road.
    "What's wrong, little girl?" he asks.
    "It's my mummy," she says. "I've lost her and can't find her anywhere."
    "Don't worry," he says. "We'll soon find her. What's she like?"
    "Bingo and cock," comes the answer.

    It's a scouse joke, so they switch towns if they're in Wigan.

    This is my favourite Wigan joke (you need to imagine the accent):

    Man goes into a jewellers: "Can you make me a statue of my dog, in gold"
    "Eighteen carat?"
    "Er... no thanks. Chewing a bone".

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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    RobD said:

    Dougie said:

    Anecdote - I was called up by someone at a Conservative phonebank today asking if I had voted in Edinburgh North and Leith - which is my constituency. I had and asked him how it was going. He said the Tories were getting their vote out but that it would be close. Of course he would say that anyway, but interesting that the Tories are throwing resources at EN&L at this stage.

    Er, close between Lab and the SNP, surely??
    A Labour bod tweeted this. Treat with caution though:
    https://twitter.com/ianssmart/status/872875506349355008
    The sums make it clear it is a target.

    May's late Edinburgh visit was to North and Leith.
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    I have always loathed Angel Lansbury in her TV detective sort of role that's been on tele forever.
    Now I know she is a socialist too, It just confirms my opinion
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    DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    Is that "not going to be a 100 seat majority" less bullish or...
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,551

    TW1R64 said:

    Chameleon said:

    Why would anybody choose the BBC over Sky. Why curtice was still saying too close to call in the EU referendum and 2015 GE, Thrasher had already calculated the results and gone home.

    For me it depends on the graphics, best graphics get on the TV, second best on the laptop, ITV off.
    I love watching BBC just to see the disappointment on their faces. Andrew Marr was practically in tears after the exit poll 2015.
    You do know he is a Tory?
    What? A real Tory or an everyone-to-the-right-of-John-McDonnell-is-a-Tory Tory?
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    So Forsyth and Dunn giving out mixed messages then....
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    just voted, turnout similar to eu referendum. just one polling statin though.

    benfleet - castle point.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034
    I'm watching Emmerdale Farm now - God almighty.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,940

    GIN1138 said:



    But this is my prediction for tonight

    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/872495125250834432


    A good night for Theresa May!

    Yah, and I'm spending the night with three Corbynistas
    Abbott Thornberry and Long Bailey.......I'm jealous
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Mother ducker. Betfair Sports book limiting me to £3.55 on Constituency bets.
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    MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 25,473
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Then again, I remember that twitter commentary two years ago before the exit poll made me think Labour had a chance.
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,060
    edited June 2017
    BUGGER!!!! I need 10 in total. Mind you I've got those big bets on the 3 border constituencies that Alastair "forced" us to bet on... thank you.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Are there any 'unofficial' exit polls happening this time?
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,222
    alex. said:

    Are there any 'unofficial' exit polls happening this time?

    By that do you mean opinion polls on the day?
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    alex. said:

    Are there any 'unofficial' exit polls happening this time?

    I assume Yougov is doing a re-contact of its panel?
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Expectations management. Means 12 or so are in play. Salmond............
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    mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    Polruan said:

    Mrs C, Yorkshire is a flourishing and bountiful land, nourished by the timely rain. Not a parched realm of nightmares, like Mordor.

    Leave Derbyshire out of this.....
    Derbyshire has been left out of everything since the dawn of civilisation.....
    It is slowly creeping up on Sheffield though. It seems to get closer every time I go over Snake Pass.
    It's a sneaky county, Derbyshire. You've got to watch it like a hawk....
    It is so bleak up in the hills. If you car has a problem up there then you might as well be on the back of the moon as far as mobile phones are concerned.
    My first car was an ex-National Rivers Authority Land Rover 110. It nearly killed me three times, including once when I was travelling over the tops between Chesterfield and Matlock on a foggy night and lost all electrics, including lights.

    My brother had much more fun with his Land Rover, including the time he was on its roof and it rolled onto him. That's an impressive feat!
    I regularly drive past the Land Rover factory in Liverpool. There are plenty more of them to go around so tell your brother not to worry too much ;)
    I don't think they make the classic Land Rover any more? It's all Freeloaders and Piscoverys now, isn't it. :(

    I saw a figure somewhere for the percentage of Land Rovers made that are still in existence: it was remarkably high. You just can't kill them.
    I took my 110 to the Royal Cornwall Show today. Car parks are a mud bath, and as a result it's now mud spattered from sill to roof. I may have taken a few "alternative" routes. Can't stop smiling.

    (And saw the new Disco there. Don't know what they're doing - possibly the ugliest vehicle I've ever seen)
    The Discovery's key target market is SW London. Just as the Evoque's is new money Cheshire.
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    JamesPJamesP Posts: 85
    Ancedata Alert:

    Voted today at 5:37pm.

    Overheard from polling officer / desk sitter (can't think of the proper names for them):

    I was voter #450 of the day (3rd sheet finished). There are about 1950 voters registered at my polling location. 24.1% of these have postal votes.

    I live in what was a LD/CON SW marginal, which turned blue in 2015. The polling station area and ward is best described as a better off, older (and few students) suburban area, part of the main town in the constituency. Turnout for the county council election was 43% (which covers a wider area). I am under the impression that turnout is normally higher here than the average for the constituency.

    Making the assumption that 80% of postal voters voted. (376). And add in the 450 = 826/1950 voters by 5:37pm for a turnout of 42.3%. I think this may be indicating a lower turnout in the old LD/CON marginals (which no longer are marginal!). Even another 450 voters in the last 4 hours and 23 minutes would only mean a turnout of 65.4% (I would expect last time for it to be nearing 80% in my area, for a turnout of 70% overall).

    In addition to this, throughout the campaign the LDs have not been as 'tenacious' as they once were. No contact from them, when only 7 years ago, they were bordering on fanatical, even in 2015 they were far more active. Perhaps this has translated into a low turnout in these sorts of seats...
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    OUTOUT Posts: 569

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    Where's malcolmG?

    Ayr, I think.

    His quietness tempts me with a few quid on the Ruth Davidson party there.

    Bdtfair seems to be heading the way of a 50-100 majority.

    My pred is unchanged:

    Con 362
    Lab 215
    SNP 40
    LD 11
    PC 3
    Gn 1
    NI 18

    76 majority

    I have just backed some of the run off though as this is a particularly difficult one to predict.
    If he's in ayr he is going to be keeping quiet tonight! :lol:
    malc's a shy tory

    hes voting theresa
    It's Ruth's party up here.
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    ab195ab195 Posts: 477
    Alistair said:

    Mother ducker. Betfair Sports book limiting me to £3.55 on Constituency bets.

    Betfair is doing that to me. Is it a generic thing or it because of bahaviour on an account? I.e. Hypothetically could one beat it via several accounts.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    just voted, turnout similar to eu referendum. just one polling statin though.

    benfleet - castle point.

    Care to reveal who you voted for?
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    1 hr 30 mins to perhaps celebrating or bed wetting and having to learn The Red Flag.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034

    just voted, turnout similar to eu referendum. just one polling statin though.

    benfleet - castle point.

    Safe seat but a good pointer the blue kippers are coming out.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034

    alex. said:

    Are there any 'unofficial' exit polls happening this time?

    I assume Yougov is doing a re-contact of its panel?
    That'll be more misleading than sin.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034
    Me too, can't remember my username for Clegg phonebank. Neck and neck apparently.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    ab195 said:

    Alistair said:

    Mother ducker. Betfair Sports book limiting me to £3.55 on Constituency bets.

    Betfair is doing that to me. Is it a generic thing or it because of bahaviour on an account? I.e. Hypothetically could one beat it via several accounts.
    Ah, happier if it is a universal thing. I have a number of Constituency bets considerably larger than £3.55 though which will be hard to lay off.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,814

    I bedwetted out of the spreads last night.

    Now trying to decide whether to go back in, and onto what.

    I did the same about a week ago, but just sold half my stake. Glad I did because I would otherwise have been a nervous wreck by now.
    You still have half open then?
    Yes, but if I were starting with a blank sheet now I'd be a seller at 207, for small stakes.
    I've sold at £10.

    Already sort of regretting, but that's because I'm a big jessie.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,526
    OUT said:

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    Where's malcolmG?

    Ayr, I think.

    His quietness tempts me with a few quid on the Ruth Davidson party there.

    Bdtfair seems to be heading the way of a 50-100 majority.

    My pred is unchanged:

    Con 362
    Lab 215
    SNP 40
    LD 11
    PC 3
    Gn 1
    NI 18

    76 majority

    I have just backed some of the run off though as this is a particularly difficult one to predict.
    If he's in ayr he is going to be keeping quiet tonight! :lol:
    malc's a shy tory

    hes voting theresa
    It's Ruth's party up here.
    We are indeed blessed. Well comparatively.
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    GadflyGadfly Posts: 1,191

    TW1R64 said:

    Chameleon said:

    Why would anybody choose the BBC over Sky. Why curtice was still saying too close to call in the EU referendum and 2015 GE, Thrasher had already calculated the results and gone home.

    For me it depends on the graphics, best graphics get on the TV, second best on the laptop, ITV off.
    I love watching BBC just to see the disappointment on their faces. Andrew Marr was practically in tears after the exit poll 2015.
    You do know he is a Tory?
    Very much doubt it. Andrew Neil maybe.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022
    calum said:
    I quite like Nicholson.. will be a shame if he goes.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,987

    I bedwetted out of the spreads last night.

    Now trying to decide whether to go back in, and onto what.

    I did the same about a week ago, but just sold half my stake. Glad I did because I would otherwise have been a nervous wreck by now.
    You still have half open then?
    Yes, but if I were starting with a blank sheet now I'd be a seller at 207, for small stakes.

    I don't have the nerves for spreads so took the easy way out and went to to SkyBet to put £50 at evens on Labour to get less than 208 seats. A silly little bet, but free money IMO.

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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Alistair said:

    RobD said:

    Dougie said:

    Anecdote - I was called up by someone at a Conservative phonebank today asking if I had voted in Edinburgh North and Leith - which is my constituency. I had and asked him how it was going. He said the Tories were getting their vote out but that it would be close. Of course he would say that anyway, but interesting that the Tories are throwing resources at EN&L at this stage.

    Er, close between Lab and the SNP, surely??
    A Labour bod tweeted this. Treat with caution though:
    https://twitter.com/ianssmart/status/872875506349355008
    The sums make it clear it is a target.

    May's late Edinburgh visit was to North and Leith.
    I didn't even think they were targetting that. Does that mean they think they have Edin South West for sure? and the north east (region) must be looking very good foor them, no?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    From the VoteUK forum, regarding Newcastle-under-Lyme:

    "There appear to be problems with students from Keele University being turned away from voting. Newcastle Borough Council are advising that late registrations may not have been included on the voting lists sent out."
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    asjohnstoneasjohnstone Posts: 1,276
    ab195 said:

    Alistair said:

    Mother ducker. Betfair Sports book limiting me to £3.55 on Constituency bets.

    Betfair is doing that to me. Is it a generic thing or it because of bahaviour on an account? I.e. Hypothetically could one beat it via several accounts.
    If you want to violate the T&Cs
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034
    RobD said:

    calum said:
    I quite like Nicholson.. will be a shame if he goes.
    That is wonderful misdirection to Lib/Con undecideds.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    I love all these rumours and gossip. Most of them will turn out to be tosh but they're fun to read about as we wait for the exit poll.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024

    BUGGER!!!! I need 10 in total. Mind you I've got those big bets on the 3 border constituencies that Alastair "forced" us to bet on... thank you.
    plus one hold means 8 in total, but they are targetting Edin North now so 10 is looking good.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,222
    RobD said:

    calum said:
    I quite like Nicholson.. will be a shame if he goes.
    You are joking, aren't you? If there's one **** I want to see the back of it's him.
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    RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    I think turnout in the shires will be down. I think turnout of blue-collar Tories will be up. That's who May needs.
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    calum said:
    I quite like Nicholson.. will be a shame if he goes.
    That is wonderful misdirection to Lib/Con undecideds.
    I believe he is a nicolson, as a Nicholson I fealing I must point it out, but I might be wrong
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034
    RoyalBlue said:

    I think turnout in the shires will be down. I think turnout of blue-collar Tories will be up. That's who May needs.

    Blue collar Tories will turn out.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,940

    Brom said:

    Oldies for Jez.

    https://twitter.com/_AngelaLansbury/status/872559410379444224

    I actually think this is quite a cool celeb endorsement. Obviously runs in the family.

    I would agree. Her grandfather was Labour leader no? I have a lot more respect for her than your Lily Allens or Ruby Tandohs.
    shes not a nice person

    everywhere she goes there are dead bodies
    She wouldn't even harm a fly.......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYDxxHrlmUg
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    ab195 said:

    Alistair said:

    Mother ducker. Betfair Sports book limiting me to £3.55 on Constituency bets.

    Betfair is doing that to me. Is it a generic thing or it because of bahaviour on an account? I.e. Hypothetically could one beat it via several accounts.
    I got similar on PP, but still could make bigger stakes on BF SB. It must be behaviour related.
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    ab195ab195 Posts: 477

    ab195 said:

    Alistair said:

    Mother ducker. Betfair Sports book limiting me to £3.55 on Constituency bets.

    Betfair is doing that to me. Is it a generic thing or it because of bahaviour on an account? I.e. Hypothetically could one beat it via several accounts.
    If you want to violate the T&Cs
    Got you. Fair enough for them to want to manage their position and most stuff can be done with othe firms.
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    Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 13,382

    I bedwetted out of the spreads last night.

    Now trying to decide whether to go back in, and onto what.

    I did the same about a week ago, but just sold half my stake. Glad I did because I would otherwise have been a nervous wreck by now.
    You still have half open then?
    Yes, but if I were starting with a blank sheet now I'd be a seller at 207, for small stakes.
    I've sold at £10.

    Already sort of regretting, but that's because I'm a big jessie.
    Same stake as me, but due to earlier trading I'm on at 180. I'm expecting a result very close to 200 but can cope with anything but a complete meltdown - under 150 would be ugly, but I'm pretty sure that isn't going to happen.
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    FF43FF43 Posts: 15,848
    nunu said:

    Alistair said:

    RobD said:

    Dougie said:

    Anecdote - I was called up by someone at a Conservative phonebank today asking if I had voted in Edinburgh North and Leith - which is my constituency. I had and asked him how it was going. He said the Tories were getting their vote out but that it would be close. Of course he would say that anyway, but interesting that the Tories are throwing resources at EN&L at this stage.

    Er, close between Lab and the SNP, surely??
    A Labour bod tweeted this. Treat with caution though:
    https://twitter.com/ianssmart/status/872875506349355008
    The sums make it clear it is a target.

    May's late Edinburgh visit was to North and Leith.
    I didn't even think they were targetting that. Does that mean they think they have Edin South West for sure? and the north east (region) must be looking very good foor them, no?
    I was surprised too. The Tories were a distant third in both the 2015 GE and the equivalent 2016 seat for Holyrood. However, just looked at the council results from a couple of weeks back and the Conservatives did really well in the wards that make up the Edinburgh North & Leith constituency.
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    JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488

    I'm still holding with a majority of 64-ish. Maybe I'm being too cautious, but I still can't see a landslide happening.

    I can and have bet accordingly. I've got strong positions out to a 175 majority.
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    GadflyGadfly Posts: 1,191
    I bumped into an old friend who campaigns for Farron earlier today and he was decidedly glum.
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,551
    80 minutes to go.
    The BBC coverage may be frustrating, but no-one anywhere does drama like the first minute after the polls close on the BBC.
    Switching over to ITV after that mind. Or going to bed in despair, one or the other.
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    ScarfNZScarfNZ Posts: 29
    This is probably one of the most important UK General Elections for a number of years. If May wins you get BREXIT and a finacial crisis. If Corbyn wins ....... you will also get a financial crisis! I am sat in front of the telly, laptop on the table and waiting patiently for the results to start flowing. It will be a fascinating day and hopefully you guys will be causing the earthquakes rather than NZ! Enjoy everyone!
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum, regarding Newcastle-under-Lyme:

    "There appear to be problems with students from Keele University being turned away from voting. Newcastle Borough Council are advising that late registrations may not have been included on the voting lists sent out."

    They’ve had seven weeks to get their names on the local register. They’ll know for next time.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    nunu said:

    BUGGER!!!! I need 10 in total. Mind you I've got those big bets on the 3 border constituencies that Alastair "forced" us to bet on... thank you.
    plus one hold means 8 in total, but they are targetting Edin North now so 10 is looking good.
    nunu said:

    BUGGER!!!! I need 10 in total. Mind you I've got those big bets on the 3 border constituencies that Alastair "forced" us to bet on... thank you.
    plus one hold means 8 in total, but they are targetting Edin North now so 10 is looking good.
    nunu said:

    BUGGER!!!! I need 10 in total. Mind you I've got those big bets on the 3 border constituencies that Alastair "forced" us to bet on... thank you.
    plus one hold means 8 in total, but they are targetting Edin North now so 10 is looking good.
    For the Love of Thor, please let it be 10. £££
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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    calum said:
    I quite like Nicholson.. will be a shame if he goes.
    That is wonderful misdirection to Lib/Con undecideds.
    SCON's use of national polling data at a constituency level has muddied the waters as well.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,814
    Ah, just remembered a bet I placed with PP on LD seats to be 9 and under at 14/1.

    That's cheered me up.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Final forecasts:

    Hanretty: Con 366, Lab 207, SNP 46. LD 7, Greens 1, UKIP 1 (which seat?!)
    Baxter: Con 358, Lab 218, SNP 49, LD 3, PC 3, Greens 1
    YouGov: Con 302, Lab 269, SNP 44, LD 12, PC 2, Greens 1
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    PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    matt said:

    Polruan said:

    Mrs C, Yorkshire is a flourishing and bountiful land, nourished by the timely rain. Not a parched realm of nightmares, like Mordor.

    Leave Derbyshire out of this.....
    Derbyshire has been left out of everything since the dawn of civilisation.....
    It is slowly creeping up on Sheffield though. It seems to get closer every time I go over Snake Pass.
    It's a sneaky county, Derbyshire. You've got to watch it like a hawk....
    It is so bleak up in the hills. If you car has a problem up there then you might as well be on the back of the moon as far as mobile phones are concerned.
    My first car was an ex-National Rivers Authority Land Rover 110. It nearly killed me three times, including once when I was travelling over the tops between Chesterfield and Matlock on a foggy night and lost all electrics, including lights.

    My brother had much more fun with his Land Rover, including the time he was on its roof and it rolled onto him. That's an impressive feat!
    I regularly drive past the Land Rover factory in Liverpool. There are plenty more of them to go around so tell your brother not to worry too much ;)
    I don't think they make the classic Land Rover any more? It's all Freeloaders and Piscoverys now, isn't it. :(

    I saw a figure somewhere for the percentage of Land Rovers made that are still in existence: it was remarkably high. You just can't kill them.
    I took my 110 to the Royal Cornwall Show today. Car parks are a mud bath, and as a result it's now mud spattered from sill to roof. I may have taken a few "alternative" routes. Can't stop smiling.

    (And saw the new Disco there. Don't know what they're doing - possibly the ugliest vehicle I've ever seen)
    The Discovery's key target market is SW London. Just as the Evoque's is new money Cheshire.
    Sure, so people in SW London don't have off-road needs, but they do have eyes. This satisfies the former and offends the latter.
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    not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,342

    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum, regarding Newcastle-under-Lyme:

    "There appear to be problems with students from Keele University being turned away from voting. Newcastle Borough Council are advising that late registrations may not have been included on the voting lists sent out."

    They’ve had seven weeks to get their names on the local register. They’ll know for next time.
    If they registered before the deadline then they have every right to be on the register. Shocking failure by the council.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 59,022

    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum, regarding Newcastle-under-Lyme:

    "There appear to be problems with students from Keele University being turned away from voting. Newcastle Borough Council are advising that late registrations may not have been included on the voting lists sent out."

    They’ve had seven weeks to get their names on the local register. They’ll know for next time.
    If they registered before the deadline then they have every right to be on the register. Shocking failure by the council.
    You'd have thought the lack of polling card would have rang alarm bells.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum, regarding Newcastle-under-Lyme:

    "There appear to be problems with students from Keele University being turned away from voting. Newcastle Borough Council are advising that late registrations may not have been included on the voting lists sent out."

    They’ve had seven weeks to get their names on the local register. They’ll know for next time.
    If they registered before the deadline then they have every right to be on the register. Shocking failure by the council.
    Could be a by-election if the majority is less than the number of people allegedly not registered.
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    BenedictWhiteBenedictWhite Posts: 1,944
    I've put an edited copy of AndyJS's spreadsheet here:

    I have updated it so that 2017 figures can be entered to calculate running totals. I will be editing it for a while but not all night.

    If anyone wants to get edit access to my copy (as opposed to downloading it and playing with it) email me at benedictmpwhite at gmail dhat com.

    Many thanks to Andy JS for all his hard work.
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    MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,242

    AndyJS said:

    From the VoteUK forum, regarding Newcastle-under-Lyme:

    "There appear to be problems with students from Keele University being turned away from voting. Newcastle Borough Council are advising that late registrations may not have been included on the voting lists sent out."

    They’ve had seven weeks to get their names on the local register. They’ll know for next time.
    If they registered before the deadline then they have every right to be on the register. Shocking failure by the council.
    Yep, that's the key question..
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034

    Ah, just remembered a bet I placed with PP on LD seats to be 9 and under at 14/1.

    That's cheered me up.

    Under 7 @ 12-1 WIll Hills.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,034
    AndyJS said:

    Final forecasts:

    Hanretty: Con 366, Lab 207, SNP 46. LD 7, Greens 1, UKIP 1 (which seat?!)
    Baxter: Con 358, Lab 218, SNP 49, LD 3, PC 3, Greens 1
    YouGov: Con 302, Lab 269, SNP 44, LD 12, PC 2, Greens 1

    Kip 1 is an amalgamation.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,229
    calum said:

    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    calum said:
    I quite like Nicholson.. will be a shame if he goes.
    That is wonderful misdirection to Lib/Con undecideds.
    SCON's use of national polling data at a constituency level has muddied the waters as well.
    The LDs did poorly in the Holyrood elections in the East Dunbartonshire constituency too. I think it'll be an SNP hold.

    There were only two constituencies which the LDs "won" at both Holyrood and in the locals: Edinburgh West and Fife NE. (Orkney & Shetland is full of independents.)
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    AndyJS said:

    Final forecasts:

    Hanretty: Con 366, Lab 207, SNP 46. LD 7, Greens 1, UKIP 1 (which seat?!)

    Probably South Thanet
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Not one report from a committee room so to a degree all anecdotal, if the queue now are longer than ever before then that will be a pointer. At this stage you normally can't catch everybody going in or out to get their number and it doesn't actually matter because you work off the 20:00 data.are the queues building up more than is usual?
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    Rexel56Rexel56 Posts: 807
    nunu said:

    Can't believe Sunil's elbow has the Tory lead exacty the same as the actual lead in 2015. Is this all gonna be for nothing?

    Noises I'm hearing suggest that's exactly where we're going... bit bigger majority but a few nervous hours after the exit poll...
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