As an Englishman I get most annoyed by the Welsh and Gaelic constituency names. I have to check their spelling every single time. Even then I sometimes get them wrong.
When the Tory manifesto came out I said that it was time to get some unpalatable stuff on the table and a hit in the polls wouldn't hurt too much. . I'm sure the same calculation was done by the Tories. The joker was May's poor campaigning performance. I don't think it's so bad as to prevent an increased majority but it could have been better and it has also revealed May's Achilles heel, public speaking - strange in a politician
I am no fan of TM but at least she is offering a serious platform. Her style is a bit wooden but I think people would rather have someone tell you the truth rather than the Blair and to a lesser extent Cameron who were all polish and media focused. If you look back at dynamic PMs they are usually followed by technocratic types. Think: Macmillan followed by Home or Wilson followed by Callaghan or Thatcher followed by Major or Blair followed by Brown and now Cameron followed by May. Politics is a cycle, if Labour can get rid of Corbyn they should be in for a period of rejuvenation as the pendulum swings against the Tories.
May is not telling the truth on Brexit.
I wasn't thinking of Brexit more of some of the other Non Brexit challenges. You do have a point on Brexit as I feel we have been told a pack of lies on that subject. The problem is we are at the point where it has to be executed even though I disagreed with it.
An email from TM at 5:58 asking me to get out and vote as it could come down to a few votes... in Skipton and Ripon where Julian Smith has a majority of several gazillions... have a Lancaster postcode mind, so that might be confusing the message targeting...
At my polling station in Birkhill tonight it was bouncing. I am usually there at the crack of so it was an unusual time but I have never seen it so busy.
Bit weird really. Dundee West is not marginal, no one canvassed us, no tellers, no obvious GOTV operation. My guess is that the SNP storm troopers are all in Angus and Perth and North Perthshire. But people are voting, no doubt about it.
I'd like to see the reaction of sunderland if they lose their 'fastest declaration' to Newcastle...
It would be the end of them doing it. I was told it costs near £250,000 to do it. Once every five years is one thing - justifying it again after just two took some arm-twisting. It's a lot of money for a relatively poor area. They really must think it gives some serious kudos.
250 grand?! why the hell do they bother? I'd be seriously pissed off if that was my tax money. It's a bit sad really.
Certainly not Aberavon - lots of places with the name not most significant settlement (or used to be many like that).
I have to admit I have noticed the excessive 'and' usage in Scotland - they stick to a theme. Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey is just too long though.
I like the ones where you lack a compass point - very common in local elections too - Royal Wootton Bassett has a north, south and east, but no west division.
South Holland and the Deepings is a great name.
Richmond (Yorks) is an unfortunate name. The parentheses is surely not necessary considering the similarly named seat is actually Richmond Park and considering Richmond, North Yorkshire came first (by some 600 years), it shouldn't be the one to suffer the caveat.
Notwithstanding this, the seat should be called Northallerton and Richmond anyway.
They have an issue with almost every single constituency name, which is quite impressive in itself.
They are not that impressive. Altrincham and Sale West is missing from the list as is Wythenshawe and Sale East. Or have they no issues with those? They both have the hated "and" in the middle.
An email from TM at 5:58 asking me to get out and vote as it could come down to a few votes... in Skipton and Ripon where Julian Smith has a majority of several gazillions... have a Lancaster postcode mind, so that might be confusing the message targeting...
They always do that, I remember getting a text from David Cameron (Obviously it was a huge mail out) in 2010.
I am not a member of any political party now, so I have received no communications from any party.
As an Englishman I get most annoyed by the Welsh and Gaelic constituency names. I have to check their spelling every single time. Even then I sometimes get them wrong.
Some of us even get the names of the constituencies wrong.
When the Tory manifesto came out I said that it was time to get some unpalatable stuff on the table and a hit in the polls wouldn't hurt too much. . I'm sure the same calculation was done by the Tories. The joker was May's poor campaigning performance. I don't think it's so bad as to prevent an increased majority but it could have been better and it has also revealed May's Achilles heel, public speaking - strange in a politician
I am no fan of TM but at least she is offering a serious platform. Her style is a bit wooden but I think people would rather have someone tell you the truth rather than the Blair and to a lesser extent Cameron who were all polish and media focused. If you look back at dynamic PMs they are usually followed by technocratic types. Think: Macmillan followed by Home or Wilson followed by Callaghan or Thatcher followed by Major or Blair followed by Brown and now Cameron followed by May. Politics is a cycle, if Labour can get rid of Corbyn they should be in for a period of rejuvenation as the pendulum swings against the Tories.
May is not telling the truth on Brexit.
She tells the truth and we have capital flight and a recession.
That's coming anyway, but if she'd told the truth she would have lost in a landslide.
It pees me off when I hear people complain about politicians not telling the truth, when everybody knows what a high price they pay electorally for being honest with us.
My gut is telling me Labour closer to 160 than 180.
But I'll stick to 180 give or take. Definitely not 200.
You a seller of Labour Seats then Southam? Sporting's spread has crept up during the day and is now 207/212. Even I think that's a bit high and I started buying when they were 160.
Big profits available to you if you are right and have the cojones. I'm not sure. Staying out of it.
The rule of thumb in every election is that it will be worse for Labour than most are expecting. That has been bucked every now and again, but it usually works. Looking at the demographics on who Labour is relying on to turn out and it is pretty clear to me that the Tories are going to walk this. I am not betting on this election, though. I would need more than gut feeling; I would need certainty. This is not the absolute 100% slam dunk that I knew the Referendum would be.
When the Tory manifesto came out I said that it was time to get some unpalatable stuff on the table and a hit in the polls wouldn't hurt too much. . I'm sure the same calculation was done by the Tories. The joker was May's poor campaigning performance. I don't think it's so bad as to prevent an increased majority but it could have been better and it has also revealed May's Achilles heel, public speaking - strange in a politician
I am no fan of TM but at least she is offering a serious platform. Her style is a bit wooden but I think people would rather have someone tell you the truth rather than the Blair and to a lesser extent Cameron who were all polish and media focused. If you look back at dynamic PMs they are usually followed by technocratic types. Think: Macmillan followed by Home or Wilson followed by Callaghan or Thatcher followed by Major or Blair followed by Brown and now Cameron followed by May. Politics is a cycle, if Labour can get rid of Corbyn they should be in for a period of rejuvenation as the pendulum swings against the Tories.
May is not telling the truth on Brexit.
Is anyone?
That song 'liar liar' can be applied to both May and Corbyn.
An email from TM at 5:58 asking me to get out and vote as it could come down to a few votes... in Skipton and Ripon where Julian Smith has a majority of several gazillions... have a Lancaster postcode mind, so that might be confusing the message targeting...
They always do that, I remember getting a text from David Cameron (Obviously it was a huge mail out) in 2010.
I am not a member of any political party now, so I have received no communications from any party.
Ah, I had assumed that some bloke called Jim Messina studies my web activity and sends me a personal email based on how many times I have looked at PB or Breitbart. Or something.
Evening all we are all set for the exit poll at 10pm then. I still have no sense of how this is going to play out. Lots of Labour leafleting outside Finchley Central tube station tonight. I can't see them gaining the seat though with Corbyn as leader.
Evening all we are all set for the exit poll at 10pm then. I still have no sense of how this is going to play out. Lots of Labour leafleting outside Finchley Central tube station tonight. I can't see them gaining the seat though with Corbyn as leader.
Labour seem to be leafleting all across London today - I guess they have the Momentum manpower in the capital to rely on. Leaflets have been thrust at me all day in Dulwich which to the best of my knowledge is in no way a marginal or a target for anybody.
My other hot prediction is that Labour will end up with fewer seats than the Exit Poll initially predicts.
That I agree with for the reasons I have said but I think 180 is excessively pessimistic, let alone 160. I expect Labour to be around 200. Above or below will be quite important psychologically.
I would have thought the 209 seats they won in the 1983 election might hold more psychological resonance.
Apparently the returning officer usually in charge of the Sunderland counts has moved to Newcastle, which is why the latter is being mooted as a possible first declaration this time.
At my polling station in Birkhill tonight it was bouncing. I am usually there at the crack of so it was an unusual time but I have never seen it so busy.
Bit weird really. Dundee West is not marginal, no one canvassed us, no tellers, no obvious GOTV operation. My guess is that the SNP storm troopers are all in Angus and Perth and North Perthshire. But people are voting, no doubt about it.
You'd describe it as risk then?
Post work is always the busiest time when I've voted
It's an election night on PB only when Ave It is in the house.... although has he mellowed a little we ask?
I've a feeling the person we shall most miss tonight is Martin Day, with his artwork of means of LibDem conveyances....
For me, his masterpiece was the Galapagos Tortoise with Gordon Brown's head grafted ineptly onto it. I still have that stored away somewhere. A crazed genius. Sort of.
Evening all we are all set for the exit poll at 10pm then. I still have no sense of how this is going to play out. Lots of Labour leafleting outside Finchley Central tube station tonight. I can't see them gaining the seat though with Corbyn as leader.
Labour seem to be leafleting all across London today - I guess they have the Momentum manpower in the capital to rely on. Leaflets have been thrust at me all day in Dulwich which to the best of my knowledge is in no way a marginal or a target for anybody.
They have been leafleting in Borough all week though there are lots of Bring Back Simon Hughes posters too!
Evening all we are all set for the exit poll at 10pm then. I still have no sense of how this is going to play out. Lots of Labour leafleting outside Finchley Central tube station tonight. I can't see them gaining the seat though with Corbyn as leader.
Jews have made their minds up about Corbyn like he has made his up about Jews.
Turnout seems OK, not earth-shattering. Only one teller, a Tory.
Sunil means "blue"...
Did you vote or ?
I'm tittering and chortling right now
But my little brother voted Labour
Your have fallen significantly on the Order of Lenin shortlist.
Sunil's little "brother" needs to be sent for re-education to the gulags of Tunbridge Wells....
I was there earlier today. Saw a few Greg Clark posters, not much else except for some home made ones saying: "Don't be stupid, be a smarty. Vote against the Tory party".
My other hot prediction is that Labour will end up with fewer seats than the Exit Poll initially predicts.
That I agree with for the reasons I have said but I think 180 is excessively pessimistic, let alone 160. I expect Labour to be around 200. Above or below will be quite important psychologically.
I would have thought the 209 seats they won in the 1983 election might hold more psychological resonance.
I look at the list of seats that need to fall for Labour even to be down at 180 and I just shake my head. I just can't see any of them with a Tory MP.
If they do fall, it is a political earthquake that Corbyn will have unleashed (for it will be his doing, and not that of Theresa May).
5-2 Billy Hills first constituency to declare before 22:45
With no locals there'll be a race to break records.
Any thoughts on the Lib Dems at 12s under 7 seats? Seems very generous?
If its a Tory landslide we will be wiped out. I couldn't believe it that a lifetime lib dem in somerton and frome voted Tory because she didn't want jimmy krankie pulling the strings. There's no way labour can win there but it influenced her vote. I think we may be toast.
Visiting his local polling station in Derby, a friend of mine had to brake hard - Margaret Beckett walked out in front of his car without looking! No harm caused, fortunately.
5-2 Billy Hills first constituency to declare before 22:45
With no locals there'll be a race to break records.
Any thoughts on the Lib Dems at 12s under 7 seats? Seems very generous?
If its a Tory landslide we will be wiped out. I couldn't believe it that a lifetime lib dem in somerton and frome voted Tory because she didn't want jimmy krankie pulling the strings. There's no way labour can win there but it influenced her vote. I think we may be toast.
Turnout was fairly sizzling in Beckenham from the rush hour commuter trains. A fair amount of well dressed 30 somethings. Where their vote goes is hard to say but Bob Stewart will be fine even if demographics mean his margin gets cut as the snooty liberal Dulwich sorts move here.
After writing my abstention note on the ballot paper for 15 seconds I became conscious my pencil was making a lot more noise than anyone else's and promptly stopped.
Visiting his local polling station in Derby, a friend of mine had to brake hard - Margaret Beckett walked out in front of his car without looking! No harm caused, fortunately.
*Interesting*
Sounds as though she is flustered. Like other PB'ers to see Labour down at the 150-160 level you wince at some of the seats that would potentially go - Bolsover, Durhan NW, Hemsworth?, Blyth Valley?
And to think that Margaret Beckett was instrumental in getting Jezza on the leadership ballot a couple of years ago.............
5-2 Billy Hills first constituency to declare before 22:45
With no locals there'll be a race to break records.
Any thoughts on the Lib Dems at 12s under 7 seats? Seems very generous?
If its a Tory landslide we will be wiped out. I couldn't believe it that a lifetime lib dem in somerton and frome voted Tory because she didn't want jimmy krankie pulling the strings. There's no way labour can win there but it influenced her vote. I think we may be toast.
When the Tory manifesto came out I said that it was time to get some unpalatable stuff on the table and a hit in the polls wouldn't hurt too much. . I'm sure the same calculation was done by the Tories. The joker was May's poor campaigning performance. I don't think it's so bad as to prevent an increased majority but it could have been better and it has also revealed May's Achilles heel, public speaking - strange in a politician
I am no fan of TM but at least she is offering a serious platform. Her style is a bit wooden but I think people would rather have someone tell you the truth rather than the Blair and to a lesser extent Cameron who were all polish and media focused. If you look back at dynamic PMs they are usually followed by technocratic types. Think: Macmillan followed by Home or Wilson followed by Callaghan or Thatcher followed by Major or Blair followed by Brown and now Cameron followed by May. Politics is a cycle, if Labour can get rid of Corbyn they should be in for a period of rejuvenation as the pendulum swings against the Tories.
May is not telling the truth on Brexit.
Is anyone?
That song 'liar liar' can be applied to both May and Corbyn.
5-2 Billy Hills first constituency to declare before 22:45
With no locals there'll be a race to break records.
Any thoughts on the Lib Dems at 12s under 7 seats? Seems very generous?
If its a Tory landslide we will be wiped out. I couldn't believe it that a lifetime lib dem in somerton and frome voted Tory because she didn't want jimmy krankie pulling the strings. There's no way labour can win there but it influenced her vote. I think we may be toast.
I know what you’re thinking. How do you split a town in two and end up with a “Central” and an “East”? A West and an East, sure. A Central and an Outer, fine. But what exactly are they sniffing over at the Boundary Commission?'
Is very funny.
The three Westernmost wards in Barnsley are actually in Penistone & Stocksbridge, which makes a little more sense of it, especially when you consider that two of those Wards (Penistone East and West) are almost as big as the rest of the town when it comes to area.
The names are actually fairly sensible. Perhaps Barnsley Central could be better described as Barnsley North and Barnsley East does include a large part of the South of the town.
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Turns out she couldn't remember the correct floor number - and he wouldn't press the button!
Lots of new posters today.
Mr. Observer, it'd be a good thing for the UK if the sane PLP members split and formed a comparable party here.
With no locals there'll be a race to break records.
Bit weird really. Dundee West is not marginal, no one canvassed us, no tellers, no obvious GOTV operation. My guess is that the SNP storm troopers are all in Angus and Perth and North Perthshire. But people are voting, no doubt about it.
is there a way all of them could be considered wrong?
Labour win?
Tories on nearly 50% and Labour less than 30%?
Notwithstanding this, the seat should be called Northallerton and Richmond anyway.
I am not a member of any political party now, so I have received no communications from any party.
It pees me off when I hear people complain about politicians not telling the truth, when everybody knows what a high price they pay electorally for being honest with us.
The voters that turned out then are turning out now.
But he's not sure who they are voting for.
Mrs C, Yorkshire is a flourishing and bountiful land, nourished by the timely rain. Not a parched realm of nightmares, like Mordor.
I do like to be helpful when I can.
Derbyshire has been left out of everything since the dawn of civilisation.....
Post work is always the busiest time when I've voted
Any sign of this youth tsunami yet?
Now trying to decide whether to go back in, and onto what.
If they do fall, it is a political earthquake that Corbyn will have unleashed (for it will be his doing, and not that of Theresa May).
Visiting his local polling station in Derby, a friend of mine had to brake hard - Margaret Beckett walked out in front of his car without looking! No harm caused, fortunately.
*Interesting*
https://twitter.com/montie/status/872878018351550465
After writing my abstention note on the ballot paper for 15 seconds I became conscious my pencil was making a lot more noise than anyone else's and promptly stopped.
And to think that Margaret Beckett was instrumental in getting Jezza on the leadership ballot a couple of years ago.............
The names are actually fairly sensible. Perhaps Barnsley Central could be better described as Barnsley North and Barnsley East does include a large part of the South of the town.
What is the defence if we assume the Tories get a total vote which is perhaps 1 to 2 million more than his party?
Predictably, I've already been branded a "Tory"!