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    ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    Absolute git. I no longer require his procreative services.

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    Jez-tastic rally in Islington - you can hear Sky News praying for a Sheffield moment.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,909
    kjohnw said:
    As yet unrevealed - either a poll Lab lead or swing back to Tories on a big scale was the thinking, with the second kaboom meaning another.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    kle4 said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    Eh? Vauxhall is a 'Labour' defence. I use the inverted commas because it is the odious Kate Hoey who is the Labour MP there. Let's hope she loses.
    I was confused too, but I think the point was if LDs are up massively in Vauxhall but the national polls are right they are making no progress, then it is likely the LDs are doing well in London but poorly elsewhere, meaning other LDs are under threat?
    It also could be where the LDs have put in the miles, they could be doing well. I hope Kate Tory Hoey loses.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,543
    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,488
    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this:

    If Kaboom 1 Was YouGov showing a bigger Con Lead (still on) and Kaboom 2 was Survation showing a small Lab Lead (now cancelled) what does it mean for PB Bedwetters? ;)

    A dry night ahead
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,325
    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this:

    If Kaboom 1 Was YouGov showing a bigger Con Lead (still on) and Kaboom 2 was Survation showing a small Lab Lead (now cancelled) what does it mean for PB Bedwetters? ;)

    An uncomfortable night?
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Scott_P said:
    That is a really lame cover.

    He looks like Top Cat, who was of course a leader of an oppressed group of homeless against the forces of the state, in the form of Constable Dibble.
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this:

    If Kaboom 1 Was YouGov showing a bigger Con Lead (still on) and Kaboom 2 was Survation showing a small Lab Lead (now cancelled) what does it mean for PB Bedwetters? ;)

    a lot of key depressions on F5
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    It was the Lab ahead by 1% rumour was it?
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883
    Sorry to burst the fellow leftie excitement but tomorrow night in 24hrs and 10 minutes.

    We will know TMICIPM

    and by Friday morning she will have an increased majority
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    Eh? Vauxhall is a 'Labour' defence. I use the inverted commas because it is the odious Kate Hoey who is the Labour MP there. Let's hope she loses.
    Sorry, I mean if the Lib Dems are close (i.e. if they are picking up a lot of votes here, they are losing them elsewhere to stay standing still).
    There are special circumstances in Vauxhall. It's a deep red, ultra liberal, highly europhile, central London seat. Hoey is a socially conservative arch Labour Leaver who fraternised with Farage. It is has possibly the most incongruous MP of any seat in the whole country.
    She also has non-urban views on fox-hunting....
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,909
    surbiton said:

    kle4 said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    Eh? Vauxhall is a 'Labour' defence. I use the inverted commas because it is the odious Kate Hoey who is the Labour MP there. Let's hope she loses.
    I was confused too, but I think the point was if LDs are up massively in Vauxhall but the national polls are right they are making no progress, then it is likely the LDs are doing well in London but poorly elsewhere, meaning other LDs are under threat?
    It also could be where the LDs have put in the miles, they could be doing well.
    A possibility as well. If the polls are right on national share, that would mean they are going even further backwards in many other places in pursuit of those target seats.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,962

    Scott_P said:
    That is a really lame cover.

    He looks like Top Cat, who was of course a leader of an oppressed group of homeless against the forces of the state, in the form of Constable Dibble.
    Officer Dibble
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    spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,312

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this:

    If Kaboom 1 Was YouGov showing a bigger Con Lead (still on) and Kaboom 2 was Survation showing a small Lab Lead (now cancelled) what does it mean for PB Bedwetters? ;)

    a lot of key depressions on F5
    I'm pretty sure that mine has broken...
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,059

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    which was?
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    RestharrowRestharrow Posts: 233
    glw said:

    Joining online polling panels would seem one obvious way in for the Russians.

    GCHQ boasts of being able to manipulate online polls, but I assume they mean defeating the basic checks that some voodoo polls use (rate limiting, IP checks and so on), not filling panels with puppets. I wouldn't say it is impossible unless a pollster has some thorough verification, not that I think that's happening here.
    Is there a link to this particular boast?
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    Jez-tastic rally in Islington - you can hear Sky News praying for a Sheffield moment.

    They are leaving it late to unveil the Jezstone.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,325
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    hps://twitter.com/carrie_symonds1/status/872553343486488577

    Going for the 'he's clueless' approach rather than 'he's a terrorist(apologist)' approach I see (yes they mention it, but it's one of many points, and the image is about him being a fool, not dangerous).

    Terrible headline though. They can do better.
    And you could put together an argument for a fair few of the Sun's list applying equally to Mrs Maybe?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,543

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    which was?
    Lab ahead by 3% - But it was bollocks.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,909

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    Potayto, Potahto.
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    Scott_P said:
    That is a really lame cover.

    He looks like Top Cat, who was of course a leader of an oppressed group of homeless against the forces of the state, in the form of Constable Dibble.
    hahaha !
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    Don't take this the wrong way but fuck you too.
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    My, it's all kicking off tonight.
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    Bobajob_PBBobajob_PB Posts: 928

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    Eh? Vauxhall is a 'Labour' defence. I use the inverted commas because it is the odious Kate Hoey who is the Labour MP there. Let's hope she loses.
    Sorry, I mean if the Lib Dems are close (i.e. if they are picking up a lot of votes here, they are losing them elsewhere to stay standing still).
    There are special circumstances in Vauxhall. It's a deep red, ultra liberal, highly europhile, central London seat. Hoey is a socially conservative arch Labour Leaver who fraternised with Farage. It is has possibly the most incongruous MP of any seat in the whole country.
    She also has non-urban views on fox-hunting....
    Indeed.

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    Was that Kaboon 1 or Kaboon 2 (or a Kaboon 3)?

    They even sound like Russian spacecraft.
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    LibDems 11/2 on Betfair in Vauxhall. Might just have a small flutter on that.
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    timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    And Brake
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    2 amusing anecdotal stories that mean feck all but made me laugh

    Facebook post going around Colchester that we got from a Lib Dem activist / councillor - allegedly Labour are ahead in this region - snigger - If true Jezza on for a landslide

    Teacher at my sons school (female) tells my 14 year old sons class that Corbyn is "utterly crap"
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,543
    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    Don't take this the wrong way but fuck you too.
    Heh, I didn't hint about it until it has been debunked
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,673
    Jezza is enjoying his final moment in the spotlight before the polls open.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,057
    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,059

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    which was?
    Lab ahead by 3% - But it was bollocks.
    Phew....
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,325
    kle4 said:

    surbiton said:

    kle4 said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    Eh? Vauxhall is a 'Labour' defence. I use the inverted commas because it is the odious Kate Hoey who is the Labour MP there. Let's hope she loses.
    I was confused too, but I think the point was if LDs are up massively in Vauxhall but the national polls are right they are making no progress, then it is likely the LDs are doing well in London but poorly elsewhere, meaning other LDs are under threat?
    It also could be where the LDs have put in the miles, they could be doing well.
    A possibility as well. If the polls are right on national share, that would mean they are going even further backwards in many other places in pursuit of those target seats.
    As I have said many times, a scenario where minor party voters switch towards Corbyn, and one where voters coalesce behind the leading anti-Tory candidate in each seat, look exactly the same in a national VI poll, since the large majority of Tory MPs/targets have Labour challengers.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Scott_P said:
    That is a really lame cover.

    He looks like Top Cat, who was of course a leader of an oppressed group of homeless against the forces of the state, in the form of Constable Dibble.
    That is a classic front page
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    FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,052

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    Was that from David Herdson?

    Or should I say 'David Herdson'?
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,488

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    which was?
    Lab ahead by 3% - But it was bollocks.
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    Potayto, Potahto.
    Interesting. Switch that lead around and I could suggest that might be the final Yougov.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,909
    timmo said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    And Brake
    Not a single one of the LDs is entirely comfortable, though Carmichael is probably closest to being so, hoping the loyalty of locals to the LDs in 2016 holds true for him personally.

    If they do have net losses, whoever survived both 2015 and 2017 will enter legend as they try to rebuild.
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    spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,312

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    I know what will happen tomorrow. The news will be eerily quiet while a lot of people vote.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,370
    ELBOW for the four polls so far this week (Opinium/SurveyMonkey/ICM/ComRes):

    Con 43.58
    Lab 33.44
    LD 7.52
    UKIP 4.58

    Tory lead 10.14
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,467

    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    which was?
    Lab ahead by 3% - But it was bollocks.
    Phew....
    There's still Kaboom 1.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    IanB2 said:

    Chameleon said:

    kle4 said:

    Essexit said:

    When are we expecting this poll? I want to play Civilization VI...

    Personally, I'm playhing Endless Space 2 - excellent game.
    There's so many space 4x games out there - any idea how it stacks up against rivals?
    Very well for my taste. I'm a MOO 2 fan - I like lots of rich detail plus asymmetric races plus turn-by-turn play plus decent AI. I hate3D fiddling and real-time action. Endless Space 2 is perfect for me - all the good stuff, plus evocative films of the battles (which one can switch off) but no real-time control. I'm beating the AI at Normal, but Hard is a bit more of a challeng, and it works well with humans too.
    Stellaris is a very decent recent addition to the genre. Paradox games generally are very high quality. Victoria 2 & Crusader Kings being my stand out recommendations.
    +1 for Paradox. Although City Skylines would appeal to the aspirant mayors in here.
    Agreed. I used to play their WW2 games a lot too, before I got a bit too busy. The economics were rubbish but the politics were delightfully detailed - you could simulate what would have appened if the USA went Communit with President Gus Hall, or Britain went pro-Nazi, or other unlikely alternate histories.
    Is that hearts of iron? The various versions struggle to get the right balance between complexity/micro-management and over-simplification.
    Hearts of Iron IV is a serious time thief
    Yes, HOI. I never got past HOI III. The military side was fascinating, but the dumbed-down eonomics seemed a real pity. How does HOI IV change it?
    I understood it simplified a lot of the micro-management from III but spoiled the depth of the game in the process. So I didn't buy it. Maybe I should reconsider?
    War in the East - that is all :-)
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,043

    Is this a good time to mention that I backed the Lib Dems to win Vauxhall at 10/1
    What kind of idiot laid the LibDems at 10/1?
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    Unless Con are around 310, in which case everyone wins as a sensible Tory comes in.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @estwebber: The Lib Dems are playing Sex Machine by James Brown as they await Tim Farron
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    I am on the road tomorrow, if I am not back by 10pm I am going to have to pull over in case I crash the car!
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    RhubarbRhubarb Posts: 359

    glw said:

    Joining online polling panels would seem one obvious way in for the Russians.

    GCHQ boasts of being able to manipulate online polls, but I assume they mean defeating the basic checks that some voodoo polls use (rate limiting, IP checks and so on), not filling panels with puppets. I wouldn't say it is impossible unless a pollster has some thorough verification, not that I think that's happening here.
    Is there a link to this particular boast?
    IIRC It's one of the leaked Snowdon slides.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,488
    spudgfsh said:

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    I know what will happen tomorrow. The news will be eerily quiet while a lot of people vote.
    I might wimp out and live pause the BBC at 9:59, then come here to see whether there's bunting out or a smouldering crater in the ground before I press play...
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,325

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    Who would even have predicted that anyone could be saying that (the first bit), back three weeks ago when PB was ramping ever more unlikely Tory gains?

    The second bit was always self evident.
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    hps://twitter.com/carrie_symonds1/status/872553343486488577

    Going for the 'he's clueless' approach rather than 'he's a terrorist(apologist)' approach I see (yes they mention it, but it's one of many points, and the image is about him being a fool, not dangerous).

    Terrible headline though. They can do better.
    Shades of 1997 when CCHQ could not quite decide how to attack Tony Blair: demon eyes or Bambi.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,467
    This has to end, sooner or later.

    I'm taking comfort in that.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,909
    Chameleon said:

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    Unless Con are around 310, in which case everyone wins as a sensible Tory comes in.
    Why would you assume a party that suffered a shock net loss of seats and its majority would respond sensibly?
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Floater said:

    2 amusing anecdotal stories that mean feck all but made me laugh

    Facebook post going around Colchester that we got from a Lib Dem activist / councillor - allegedly Labour are ahead in this region - snigger - If true Jezza on for a landslide

    Teacher at my sons school (female) tells my 14 year old sons class that Corbyn is "utterly crap"

    I know a few pro-Bob switchers, from both other parties. Don't think it will be enough though.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,370
    timmo said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    And Brake
    Make or Brake :)
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    kle4 said:
    He wasn't, I had heard a very interesting rumour about a forth coming poll, which has now been debunked.
    which was?
    Lab ahead by 3% - But it was bollocks.
    Phew....
    There's still Kaboom 1.
    I'm beginning to feel a bit of Kaboom fatigue. Also if it doesn't come out soon it will miss the papers.
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    DM_AndyDM_Andy Posts: 333
    Scott_P said:
    That ought to help Labour, The Sun is despised by exactly the kind of waverers that the Tories have been trying to woo.
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    RestharrowRestharrow Posts: 233
    Floater said:

    2 amusing anecdotal stories that mean feck all but made me laugh

    Facebook post going around Colchester that we got from a Lib Dem activist / councillor - allegedly Labour are ahead in this region - snigger - If true Jezza on for a landslide

    Teacher at my sons school (female) tells my 14 year old sons class that Corbyn is "utterly crap"

    Strangely enough, parents of pupils at Ydoethur's school are reporting a similar phenomenon. Are there any in between?
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    This has to end, sooner or later.

    I'm taking comfort in that.

    There will be another one sooner or later.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,909

    timmo said:

    tlg86 said:

    If the national polls are anywhere near accurate and Labour are close in Vauxhall, then I think Farron, Clegg, Mulholland and Lamb are toast.
    And Brake
    Make or Brake :)
    Brake staked?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,962

    This has to end, sooner or later.

    I'm taking comfort in that.

    In death's cold embrace. I voted remain, but I think I know how the hardcore remainers now feel.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,057
    spudgfsh said:

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    I know what will happen tomorrow. The news will be eerily quiet while a lot of people vote.
    Until 22.00. And then the real fun starts ...

    I think I'm going to buy a bottle of Glenmorangie. I'll be my first whisky since I've vaguely restarted drinking. Although I'm afraid it won't go well with popcorn.

    Can anyone recommend a whisky that'll go well with salted popcorn and maltesers? ;)
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    This has to end, sooner or later.

    I'm taking comfort in that.

    But the universe might carry on expanding forever.
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    SaltireSaltire Posts: 525
    Scott_P said:
    Surely the Ad at the bottom is not helping, it makes her look like a long shot to win!

    (I know what the small print says but still)
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    kle4 said:

    Chameleon said:

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    Unless Con are around 310, in which case everyone wins as a sensible Tory comes in.
    Why would you assume a party that suffered a shock net loss of seats and its majority would respond sensibly?
    Because the Conservatives love power. If it was Labour on the other hand...
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549

    glw said:

    Joining online polling panels would seem one obvious way in for the Russians.

    GCHQ boasts of being able to manipulate online polls, but I assume they mean defeating the basic checks that some voodoo polls use (rate limiting, IP checks and so on), not filling panels with puppets. I wouldn't say it is impossible unless a pollster has some thorough verification, not that I think that's happening here.
    Is there a link to this particular boast?
    UNDERPASS: Change outcome of online polls (previously known as NUBILO).
    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/gchq_catalog_of.html
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,909

    This has to end, sooner or later.

    I'm taking comfort in that.

    There will be another one sooner or later.
    Maybe not - the Green leaflet I had told me this election was not about the next five years, but the next 50 years.

    Damn, that FTPA really was shit!
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    Is everyone watching election spy on BBC? It is really, really funny.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,345
    Just had two e mails from CCHQ including one from Boris with lots of material to send out on social media

    It has been non stop from them the last few days - is this the new way of targetting the messages
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,467
    Who would you vote for in a GE between YouGov and Martin Boon?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Scott_P said:

    twitter.com/martynmcl/status/872556578116960256

    Clean up crew required....coffee spillage on the keyboard.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    In Betfair spreads, Labour 150-199 is 2.6 and 200-249 2.64.

    Labour seat numbers dropping.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    matt said:

    TudorRose said:

    Chameleon said:

    kle4 said:

    Essexit said:

    When are we expecting this poll? I want to play Civilization VI...

    Personally, I'm playhing Endless Space 2 - excellent game.
    There's so many space 4x games out there - any idea how it stacks up against rivals?
    Very well for my taste. I'm a MOO 2 fan - I like lots of rich detail plus asymmetric races plus turn-by-turn play plus decent AI. I hate3D fiddling and real-time action. Endless Space 2 is perfect for me - all the good stuff, plus evocative films of the battles (which one can switch off) but no real-time control. I'm beating the AI at Normal, but Hard is a bit more of a challeng, and it works well with humans too.
    Stellaris is a very decent recent addition to the genre. Paradox games generally are very high quality. Victoria 2 & Crusader Kings being my stand out recommendations.
    Europa Universalis can be heavy but very rewarding and immersive.
    They change the rules every time I learn them!!
    Just try the board game that EU cribs many of its ideas from....
    What game is that?
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    HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    I am getting up early tomorrow to vote on my way to work to avoid a post work rush (there was a queue at the locals...never seen one before) and then will not be staying up tomorrow night to check the results. A warm mug of tea and something easy to watch from netflix for me.
    But I will wake up some time around 5am friday and end up checking the results anyway.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,673

    spudgfsh said:

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    I know what will happen tomorrow. The news will be eerily quiet while a lot of people vote.


    Can anyone recommend a whisky that'll go well with salted popcorn and maltesers? ;)
    The cheapest crap you can get your hands on.
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    Chameleon said:

    Is everyone watching election spy on BBC? It is really, really funny.

    I was disappointed; the banter on here is wittier and more crisply written.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,467
    Pulpstar said:

    This has to end, sooner or later.

    I'm taking comfort in that.

    In death's cold embrace. I voted remain, but I think I know how the hardcore remainers now feel.
    I've felt this before many times.

    Chiefly 1997, and 2001, but also properly bricking it all the way up to the IndyRef and when Edinburgh came in.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    I take it I missed some developments here.
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215

    Just had two e mails from CCHQ including one from Boris with lots of material to send out on social media

    It has been non stop from them the last few days - is this the new way of targetting the messages

    Me too and in duplicate, also from David Davis. Tempted to put cchq into the spam folder.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    Floater said:

    matt said:

    TudorRose said:

    Chameleon said:

    kle4 said:

    Essexit said:

    When are we expecting this poll? I want to play Civilization VI...

    Personally, I'm playhing Endless Space 2 - excellent game.
    There's so many space 4x games out there - any idea how it stacks up against rivals?
    Very well for my taste. I'm a MOO 2 fan - I like lots of rich detail plus asymmetric races plus turn-by-turn play plus decent AI. I hate3D fiddling and real-time action. Endless Space 2 is perfect for me - all the good stuff, plus evocative films of the battles (which one can switch off) but no real-time control. I'm beating the AI at Normal, but Hard is a bit more of a challeng, and it works well with humans too.
    Stellaris is a very decent recent addition to the genre. Paradox games generally are very high quality. Victoria 2 & Crusader Kings being my stand out recommendations.
    Europa Universalis can be heavy but very rewarding and immersive.
    They change the rules every time I learn them!!
    Just try the board game that EU cribs many of its ideas from....
    What game is that?
    Craps.
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    HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    Oh, and if the Tories do win a clear majority I predict riots on friday night. And quite a few of them I'm afraid.
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    TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,662
    surbiton said:

    In Betfair spreads, Labour 150-199 is 2.6 and 200-249 2.64.

    Labour seat numbers dropping.

    Con majority coming in on Betfair, now at 1.18.
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    SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    new thread
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,325

    spudgfsh said:

    I've still got no effing idea what's going to happen tomorrow.

    For me though, it's really the Alien versus Predator election: Whoever wins... we lose :(

    I know what will happen tomorrow. The news will be eerily quiet while a lot of people vote.
    Until 22.00. And then the real fun starts ...

    I think I'm going to buy a bottle of Glenmorangie. I'll be my first whisky since I've vaguely restarted drinking. Although I'm afraid it won't go well with popcorn.

    Can anyone recommend a whisky that'll go well with salted popcorn and maltesers? ;)
    Try one of those medicinal ones from Islay; you won't be able to taste anything else anyway.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,543
    David Herdson has confirmed to me that he did post that comment at 8.43pm
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,137

    Just had two e mails from CCHQ including one from Boris with lots of material to send out on social media

    It has been non stop from them the last few days - is this the new way of targetting the messages

    But only if it gets sent out. I have had all the same guff and whilst I am very happy to leaflet and door-knock for the Conservative Party, no way in Hell am I going to post that stuff on my social media!
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,467

    David Herdson has confirmed to me that he did post that comment at 8.43pm

    F*ck.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    It's a good job I don't trade on polling rumours. Well, not since that accidentally revealed 7 point Yes lead during IndyRef poll caused me to completely ruin my beautiful green position.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,345
    DM_Andy said:

    Scott_P said:
    That ought to help Labour, The Sun is despised by exactly the kind of waverers that the Tories have been trying to woo.
    It has an immense readership among 'the lads' and UKIP
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,673

    David Herdson has confirmed to me that he did post that comment at 8.43pm

    BOOM!!!!!
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    GadflyGadfly Posts: 1,191
    New thread!
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886

    David Herdson has confirmed to me that he did post that comment at 8.43pm

    Oooh
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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215
    I'm doing the 7.00am telling slot at my own polling station tomorrow. With luck, as in pb threads, I shall be FIRST.
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    David Herdson has confirmed to me that he did post that comment at 8.43pm

    gulp.
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,352
    Floater said:

    2 amusing anecdotal stories that mean feck all but made me laugh

    Facebook post going around Colchester that we got from a Lib Dem activist / councillor - allegedly Labour are ahead in this region - snigger - If true Jezza on for a landslide

    Teacher at my sons school (female) tells my 14 year old sons class that Corbyn is "utterly crap"

    That's actually illegal, isn't it? Teachers are allowed to encourage pupils to explore ideas and compare alternative beliefs, but are phohibited from expressing their own political opinions. There was a minor row in Nottingham because a head teacher signed a letter endorsing Labour, and Tories objected: his get-out was that it was entirely outside the school.
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