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  • ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658

    DavidL said:

    Surely the Eagles only have one song. You hear it, you wonder again how a bunch of dorks came up with that and then you go home.

    Desperado was/is brilliant. And even more so when sung by Karen carpenter.
    Try the Linda Ronstadt version.

  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,274
    Oh dear, does OGH know about Tim Farron's football loyalties? Is this why he was looking for a Stop Farron candidate two years ago?
  • Torby_FennelTorby_Fennel Posts: 438
    HaroldO said:

    Awww Peter Sallis. Aside from Wallace he was also good in the original Ice Warriors story in Doctor Who with Patrick Troughton.

    His was one of the finest and cleverest guest performances in Doctor Who history, in my opinion. :)

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:
    how many Muslim leaders?
    130 Imams, so that's about 1/10th of East London? :smile:
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215

    Scott_P said:

    QT off to a belter...

    "Why don't we have internment?"

    Because BT haven't laid the cables yet?
    LOL.
  • BigIanBigIan Posts: 198
    Scott_P said:
    He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,005

    That maybe the best way of stopping the religious fanatics who commit atrocities. I have no understanding of the religion but does it leave the dead suicide bombers soul in limbo? I suppose if you were a believer it could be a barrier to doing something nasty.

    After each attack we are told "they're not true muslims" so surely it doesn't matter what is done?
  • ChelyabinskChelyabinsk Posts: 505

    isam said:

    Progress at long last?

    how many Muslim leaders?
    And which ones haven't refused?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,635
    edited June 2017
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    edited June 2017
    Pulpstar said:
    Pet Shop Boys, some great tunes from them of course.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    @SeanT

    By the way, here is more Enoch & Buckley. No talk of immigration here, just a beautiful deconstruction of the prices and incomes policy, the perils of socialism and the moral conundrum of standing for parliament when you don't agree with the party line

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0YGdROxVE
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    edited June 2017
    Pulpstar said:
    Have they asked him about Homosexual acts yet? In the good old days one of the other political parties would have sent a person dressed as a chicken with a ghetoblaster pounding out "it's a sin!". I suppose the best we can hope for now is Andrew Neil on this week taking the piss! :naughty:
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BBCPhilipSim: Sitcom ideas: Pope Farron #bbcqt
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    Prodicus said:

    DavidL said:

    Surely the Eagles only have one song. You hear it, you wonder again how a bunch of dorks came up with that and then you go home.

    Desperado was/is brilliant. And even more so when sung by Karen carpenter.
    Try the Linda Ronstadt version.

    Cheers for the tip.
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185

    HaroldO said:

    Awww Peter Sallis. Aside from Wallace he was also good in the original Ice Warriors story in Doctor Who with Patrick Troughton.

    His was one of the finest and cleverest guest performances in Doctor Who history, in my opinion. :)

    Usually the guest actors were a little....average (I'm looking at you Beryl Reid) but he had a strong voice and presence, it gave Troughton something to work with in what is a good (if overlong) story.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    BigIan said:

    Scott_P said:
    He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
    Fab!
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Completely OT: I have accidentally scratched the wall in my hallway- the paint has come off. Just a small scratch. Any DIY advice? I don't have any paint sample pots. Colour is magnolia. Maybe smear some toothpaste?? Help.

    Well, can't be any more boring than my usual posts.....
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    AndyJS said:

    Surely the best GE Bee Gees song is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9oYSSjFI

    I once listened to this song about 50 times in a row, without a break. It's that good.
    Gosh, that is very good. I'd quite forgotten it.

    I reckon pop song writing is (ahem) a bit like thriller writing. People sneer at it (especially if it is popular) because it appears cheap and ubiquitous - sold in supermarkets like detergent. In reality, it is very difficult and few can do it well, hence the huge rewards if you get it right - as the Bee Gees clearly did.

    Here's another forsaken classic. In my mind the greatest song about male lovesickness and romantic rejection ever written

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpR8r0D2EyY

    "I'd pay the devil to replace her"

    GENIUS
    I love Hall and Oates.
    Also the subject of a magnificent Big Train sketch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5f-_I1df4
    I miss Big Train.
    It was the greatest comedy sketch show of all time. Oddly neglected. So brilliantly imaginative

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TZxFQaXkc
    The staring contest's were my personal favourite.
  • BlueberryBlueberry Posts: 408
    Floater said:
    The lying at 3.35 in that link is excruciating. She not just stupid but also dishonest.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    Tim Farron's folksy/comic verbosity is actually grating. He's making a twat of himself, live on BBC1.

    Nick Robinson is enjoying himself, doubling down on Tim's self-inflicted twattiness.

    To me, as a many times LibDem voter, after Ashdown, Kennedy and Clegg, even Campbell, Tim Farron has proved to be an utter, utter disappointment.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,249

    Completely OT: I have accidentally scratched the wall in my hallway- the paint has come off. Just a small scratch. Any DIY advice? I don't have any paint sample pots. Colour is magnolia. Maybe smear some toothpaste?? Help.

    Well, can't be any more boring than my usual posts.....

    Sell your house.

    It's over.
  • RhubarbRhubarb Posts: 359
    edited June 2017

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    IIRC the received wisdom was it was around £12k for the one targetting Farron.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,274
    So why is Sturgeon doing this thing tonight? Should it not be Robertson?
  • BigIanBigIan Posts: 198
    camel said:

    Tim Farron's folksy/comic verbosity is actually grating. He's making a twat of himself, live on BBC1.

    Nick Robinson is enjoying himself, doubling down on Tim's self-inflicted twattiness.

    To me, as a many times LibDem voter, after Ashdown, Kennedy and Clegg, even Campbell, Tim Farron has proved to be an utter, utter disappointment.

    He physically resembles a wooden spoon as well.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979

    Pulpstar said:
    Have they asked him about Homosexual acts yet? In the good old days one of the other political parties would have sent a person dressed as a chicken with a ghetoblaster pounding out "it's a sin!". I suppose the best we can hope for now is Andrew Neil on this week taking the piss! :naughty:
    I forgot to say Farron has had a lot of media exposure today then, if he has been on the English QT and the Scottish program. Possibly the most coverage of the election other than the manifesto launch.
  • TypoTypo Posts: 195
    Is it a good idea for a particularly sanctimonious party (the Lib Dems) to have an especially sanctimonious leader?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    So whilst trying to puzzle what the runes are saying about the South of Scotland I was reminded of the great oddity of the Scottish independence referendum which was the ComRes IndyRef poll done for Border TV which covered just Dumfries & Galloway and The Borders.

    http://www.comresglobal.com/wp-content/themes/comres/poll/ITV_Border_Scots_Independence_Wave_2_16th_June_2014.pdf

    What I would give for a Borders TV poll right now. Interestingly that must have been the only political poll in existence where 10/10 certainty to vote under-reported by a massive 22%
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Completely OT: I have accidentally scratched the wall in my hallway- the paint has come off. Just a small scratch. Any DIY advice? I don't have any paint sample pots. Colour is magnolia. Maybe smear some toothpaste?? Help.

    Well, can't be any more boring than my usual posts.....

    Around here absolutely every house is magnolia inside because it was stolen from the Dockyard by the lorry load.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    SeanT said:

    HaroldO said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    AndyJS said:

    Surely the best GE Bee Gees song is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9oYSSjFI

    I once listened to this song about 50 times in a row, without a break. It's that good.
    Gosh, that is very good. I'd quite forgotten it.

    I reckon pop song writing is (ahem) a bit like thriller writing. People sneer at it (especially if it is popular) because it appears cheap and ubiquitous - sold in supermarkets like detergent. In reality, it is very difficult and few can do it well, hence the huge rewards if you get it right - as the Bee Gees clearly did.

    Here's another forsaken classic. In my mind the greatest song about male lovesickness and romantic rejection ever written

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpR8r0D2EyY

    "I'd pay the devil to replace her"

    GENIUS
    I love Hall and Oates.
    Also the subject of a magnificent Big Train sketch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5f-_I1df4
    I miss Big Train.
    It was the greatest comedy sketch show of all time. Oddly neglected. So brilliantly imaginative

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TZxFQaXkc
    The staring contest's were my personal favourite.
    Also Darth Vader hoovering. And the wanking thing. And the rediscovered mother. And this, possibly the greatest sketch of all time in any form, the Working Classes via Hitchcock

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLToN2pjik8
    I have always found this funny and I have no idea why;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCPhkxskRVs
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Completely OT: I have accidentally scratched the wall in my hallway- the paint has come off. Just a small scratch. Any DIY advice? I don't have any paint sample pots. Colour is magnolia. Maybe smear some toothpaste?? Help.

    Well, can't be any more boring than my usual posts.....

    I wouldn't recommend toothpaste. Ask neighbours? Loads of people have half pots of paint stored away and magnolia is v popular.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215

    Pulpstar said:
    Have they asked him about Homosexual acts yet? In the good old days one of the other political parties would have sent a person dressed as a chicken with a ghetoblaster pounding out "it's a sin!". I suppose the best we can hope for now is Andrew Neil on this week taking the piss! :naughty:
    Truly great song. Almost as good as Rent.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    isam said:

    @SeanT

    By the way, here is more Enoch & Buckley. No talk of immigration here, just a beautiful deconstruction of the prices and incomes policy, the perils of socialism and the moral conundrum of standing for parliament when you don't agree with the party line

    tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0YGdROxVE

    Only watched the first ten minutes, but a fairly compelling speaker.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    SeanT said:

    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    JonWC said:

    Coldplay fan who also saw them at Wembley.. easily the most impressive show I've ever seen. How many bands can play over twenty songs at a concert?

    Hmm. I think it is a generational thing. I saw your posting and my first thought was if I saw a band that played less than 20 songs I would feel cheated. But most of the bands I watch have been around for decades. Of those I have seen in the last couple of years

    Springsteen regularly does 30 plus songs - 33 when I saw him at Coventry last year
    Fleetwood Mac did 23 at Leeds in 2015
    The Eagles did 27 at Leeds the year before
    ELO did 20 at Nottingham

    Even the young upstarts Suede did 27 at Leeds last year.
    I saw Paul Simon play for almost four hours a few years ago. I didn't count how many songs he sung, but it was a lot.
    I remember going to see Lenny Kravitz Just after the 7/7 bombings and he was on stage for around 3 hours, some of which was just him and his band jamming and doing covers of songs about togetherness and love. It is one of the best gigs I've been to.
    Aren't Grateful Dead the winners of this competition, every time?
    Coz they were all on heroin. Not hard to play for 19 hours if you're totally smacked out (as I can personally attest)

    Surely the question should be: how many good or great songs can you play, i.e. how brilliant is your back catalogue? Most pop stars can only claim one or two famous songs (if they write themselves).

    The acts in a different league can claim a dozen, even two dozen: the Beatles, the Stones, Led Zep, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Elton John, Genesis, the Smiths, Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, the Bee Gees, Abba, the entire Stone Roses first album (and nothing since)

    I struggle to name bands post 1985 because I genuinely think pop music has declined since then, the way Italian painting declined post-Raphael, or English verse drama after Shakespeare.

    There was a golden age of popular music, and it was 1965-1985, maybe 1990 at a push. Art forms are born, they thrive, and then they kind of die - or evolve dramatically into something different.
    Kasabian are the best stadium band, or festival headliners at the moment. They are great live and know how to put on a show. They are headlining at Reading this August. Worth taking in. I have seen them 4 times, and they too are well known Leicester City Fans. They did a free concert for us on Vicky Park a year ago.

    For the best song about breakup, I would nominate Husker Du's "Don't want to know if you are lonely"

    youtu.be/eoKeH7JYE48
    Best break up album is Beck "Sea Change"
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    In danger of breaking the spell, but all this music talk seems to have led to a more harmonious atmosphere.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    edited June 2017
    isam said:

    isam said:
    how many Muslim leaders?
    130 Imams, so that's about 1/10th of East London? :smile:
    Good for them. Exactly what is needed.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,301

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    The Bristol Post also had Labour wrap around front sheet today. Labour were banging on about how awful it was for the Tories to do this about 3 weeks ago.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    I share the gut feelings of those who think that this was always the Tories of it has swung back to them as it got a bit more serious.
    I started off with a majority of about 120, came down to 80 and am now moving back over 100. Despite May's best efforts she is going to win and win fairly big. But it was never a fair fight.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

    With the greatest of respect, Bradford isn't that big a city in terms of local newspaper circulation.is quite small, with a circulation of 15k, which is small compared to say Leeds or Manchester,
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345
    kle4 said:

    In danger of breaking the spell, but all this music talk seems to have led to a more harmonious atmosphere.

    Why do you think I put in subtle pop music references into my threads.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    isam said:



    Best break up album is Beck "Sea Change"

    Guero is my favourite Beck album although I'll give you the nod for Sea Change.
  • ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    Murnaghan was brilliant and very cruel. Excellent.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    Prodicus said:

    DavidL said:

    Surely the Eagles only have one song. You hear it, you wonder again how a bunch of dorks came up with that and then you go home.

    Desperado was/is brilliant. And even more so when sung by Karen carpenter.
    Try the Linda Ronstadt version.

    Don Henley and Glenn Fry of the Eagles were her backing band.
  • TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

    With the greatest of respect, Bradford isn't that big a city in terms of local newspaper circulation.is quite small, with a circulation of 15k, which is small compared to say Leeds or Manchester,
    Bradford wouldn't be in the top 20 cities in England
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,359
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    calum said:
    Corbyn was in Gateshead today, 3 days before the election, Labour majority 14,000 and not even in the top 100 Tory target seats and got a 10,000 turnout. Hooray! Meanwhile May was in Scotland targeting marginal seats held by the SNP. Surge or no surge I have never seen a general election campaign as strategically inept as this Labour campaign, Blair and Mandelson must have their heads in their hands!
    May was in an invitation only meeting with activists in a warehouse specialising in office storage. perhaps she has a plan for Mayexit? Is packing tea-chests a boy or girl job?
    She was at a rally in Scotland in a marginal seat then went to a factory in Berwickshire meeting voters who might be won over from the SNP, not one voter who attended that Corbyn rally in a safe Labour seat will not already be voting for him
    Not one voter that attended Tessy's secret squirrel Scottish outings will not already be voting for her. Though I have to assume that wifie who said no thanks to Tessy's piss poor canvassing definitely won't be.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    kle4 said:

    In danger of breaking the spell, but all this music talk seems to have led to a more harmonious atmosphere.

    Not sure. I might never speak to DavidL again after his mean words about the Eagles. :)
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,854
    Chris Morris's Jam was a great sketch show too. Sometimes you wonder if political parties staff their front benches from the thick people employment agency:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

    With the greatest of respect, Bradford isn't that big a city in terms of local newspaper circulation.is quite small, with a circulation of 15k, which is small compared to say Leeds or Manchester,
    Give up ;-)

    Well the cover was pretty good at getting labours message across,it nearly frightened me into voting labour ;-)

    Wonder if the tories will do the same ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    Prodicus said:

    Murnaghan was brilliant and very cruel. Excellent.

    Didn't he go something like 'Because of all this I've been rereading this report, and I'm sure you have to'? Which is more subtle opening gambit when laying a trap than most.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BradenDavy: How the SNP solved problems
    Schools - #Indyref2
    Hospitals - #Indyref2
    Economy - #Indyref2
    Policing - #Indyref2
    #Bbcqt #GE2017
  • LucyJonesLucyJones Posts: 651

    Completely OT: I have accidentally scratched the wall in my hallway- the paint has come off. Just a small scratch. Any DIY advice? I don't have any paint sample pots. Colour is magnolia. Maybe smear some toothpaste?? Help.

    Well, can't be any more boring than my usual posts.....

    I wouldn't recommend toothpaste. Ask neighbours? Loads of people have half pots of paint stored away and magnolia is v popular.
    No, no, no. There are lots of different versions of magnolia. If you don't know which one you have, get a flake of paint and get it colour-matched at your local d-i-y store. Probably cost around £20 for the smallest sized pot. You can probably just paint a couple of coats over the damaged part with a roller. Make sure the wall is prepped (i.e. lightly sanded and painted over with a base coat of diluted paint) before you start so it doesn't flake off again.
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

    With the greatest of respect, Bradford isn't that big a city in terms of local newspaper circulation.is quite small, with a circulation of 15k, which is small compared to say Leeds or Manchester,
    Bradford wouldn't be in the top 20 cities in England
    Bradford wouldn't be in my top 20 cities in Bradford.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BBCPhilipSim: Sitcom ideas: Nicola Sturgeon time travels to 1707 #bbcqt
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,345
    edited June 2017

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

    With the greatest of respect, Bradford isn't that big a city in terms of local newspaper circulation.is quite small, with a circulation of 15k, which is small compared to say Leeds or Manchester,
    Give up ;-)

    Well the cover was pretty good at getting labours message across,it nearly frightened me into voting labour ;-)

    Wonder if the tories will do the same ?
    I'd be amazed if the Tories were targeting any of the Bradford seats.

    There's a few more plausible targets for them close by.

    Though I've given up any hope of the Tories taking Batley and Spen.
  • ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    isam said:

    isam said:
    how many Muslim leaders?
    130 Imams, so that's about 1/10th of East London? :smile:
    That's 10% of the East London Imam population presumably, so a start.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,249
    isam said:

    @SeanT

    By the way, here is more Enoch & Buckley. No talk of immigration here, just a beautiful deconstruction of the prices and incomes policy, the perils of socialism and the moral conundrum of standing for parliament when you don't agree with the party line

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0YGdROxVE

    What I love about this is there is *no* embellishing: it's just one hour of very serious conversation, with a proper interviewer asking penetrating questions.

    Nothing else.

    In modern times, the interviewer would only be interested in forcing a gaffe, embarrassing the subject, or outing them as a bigot. The politician would want to avoid the questions, and get their soundbites across.

    Depressing.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    kle4 said:

    Prodicus said:

    Murnaghan was brilliant and very cruel. Excellent.

    Didn't he go something like 'Because of all this I've been rereading this report, and I'm sure you have to'? Which is more subtle opening gambit when laying a trap than most.
    He toyed with her like a cat with a half dead bird
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,249
    isam said:

    @SeanT

    By the way, here is more Enoch & Buckley. No talk of immigration here, just a beautiful deconstruction of the prices and incomes policy, the perils of socialism and the moral conundrum of standing for parliament when you don't agree with the party line

    isam, if you believe all that, as I do, then why on earth "can't you wait" to vote for Labour again?
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507

    Chris Morris's Jam was a great sketch show too. Sometimes you wonder if political parties staff their front benches from the thick people employment agency:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok

    I wonder if the drop off in youth voting coincided with the end of spitting image. I could name most of the front benches in those days and I wasn't really interested in politics.
  • Torby_FennelTorby_Fennel Posts: 438
    HaroldO said:



    Usually the guest actors were a little....average (I'm looking at you Beryl Reid) but he had a strong voice and presence, it gave Troughton something to work with in what is a good (if overlong) story.

    Oh yes... Beryl Reid... Not sure I'd use the word "average" to describe that particular performance though. ;)

  • FattyBolgerFattyBolger Posts: 299
    kquote>

    Karen carpenter has the best voice of all time for me.

    It was amazing.

    Annie Lennox (when with the Eurythmics) and Stevie Nicks (when in her pomp) are particular favorite female voices I really enjoy listening to.

    All good choices, but - Aretha.
    That is all.



    Sandy Denny
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    SeanT said:

    HaroldO said:

    SeanT said:

    HaroldO said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    AndyJS said:

    Surely the best GE Bee Gees song is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9oYSSjFI

    I once listened to this song about 50 times in a row, without a break. It's that good.
    Gosh, that is very good. I'd quite forgotten it.

    I reckon pop song writing is (ahem) a bit like thriller writing. People sneer at it (especially if it is popular) because it appears cheap and ubiquitous - sold in supermarkets like detergent. In reality, it is very difficult and few can do it well, hence the huge rewards if you get it right - as the Bee Gees clearly did.

    Here's another forsaken classic. In my mind the greatest song about male lovesickness and romantic rejection ever written

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpR8r0D2EyY

    "I'd pay the devil to replace her"

    GENIUS
    I love Hall and Oates.
    Also the subject of a magnificent Big Train sketch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5f-_I1df4
    I miss Big Train.
    It was the greatest comedy sketch show of all time. Oddly neglected. So brilliantly imaginative

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TZxFQaXkc
    The staring contest's were my personal favourite.
    Also Darth Vader hoovering. And the wanking thing. And the rediscovered mother. And this, possibly the greatest sketch of all time in any form, the Working Classes via Hitchcock

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLToN2pjik8
    I have always found this funny and I have no idea why;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCPhkxskRVs
    Funniest show ever. Not sure why it is overlooked.
    At the time myself and my mates loved it (I was still at school for the first series), and the cast is packed with talent. The second series is not as good as the first though.
    Hmmm, time to see if it is on netflix otherwise it's dvd purchasing time.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    LucyJones said:

    Completely OT: I have accidentally scratched the wall in my hallway- the paint has come off. Just a small scratch. Any DIY advice? I don't have any paint sample pots. Colour is magnolia. Maybe smear some toothpaste?? Help.

    Well, can't be any more boring than my usual posts.....

    I wouldn't recommend toothpaste. Ask neighbours? Loads of people have half pots of paint stored away and magnolia is v popular.
    No, no, no. There are lots of different versions of magnolia. If you don't know which one you have, get a flake of paint and get it colour-matched at your local d-i-y store. Probably cost around £20 for the smallest sized pot. You can probably just paint a couple of coats over the damaged part with a roller. Make sure the wall is prepped (i.e. lightly sanded and painted over with a base coat of diluted paint) before you start so it doesn't flake off again.
    Thanks. And there was me thinking TipEx..... ;-)
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    @SeanT

    By the way, here is more Enoch & Buckley. No talk of immigration here, just a beautiful deconstruction of the prices and incomes policy, the perils of socialism and the moral conundrum of standing for parliament when you don't agree with the party line

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0YGdROxVE

    What I love about this is there is *no* embellishing: it's just one hour of very serious conversation, with a proper interviewer asking penetrating questions.

    Nothing else.

    In modern times, the interviewer would only be interested in forcing a gaffe, embarrassing the subject, or outing them as a bigot. The politician would want to avoid the questions, and get their soundbites across.

    Depressing.
    Yes I absolutely love them. The clarity of the explanations re market forces/wages is almost on a par with soothing music in terms of helping me relax!

    There are dozens more Firing Line interviews on youtube, inc early Thatcher, MacMillan, Reagan etc
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185

    HaroldO said:



    Usually the guest actors were a little....average (I'm looking at you Beryl Reid) but he had a strong voice and presence, it gave Troughton something to work with in what is a good (if overlong) story.

    Oh yes... Beryl Reid... Not sure I'd use the word "average" to describe that particular performance though. ;)

    Hugely fucking miscast would be better, watching her interact with the Cybermen was just....bizarre.
  • ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    dr_spyn said:

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    The Bristol Post also had Labour wrap around front sheet today. Labour were banging on about how awful it was for the Tories to do this about 3 weeks ago.
    Uncle Len has found some change for them, down the back of his sofa.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Scott_P said:

    @BBCPhilipSim: Sitcom ideas: Nicola Sturgeon time travels to 1707 #bbcqt

    Judging by the QT audience* and Nicola's look of fear, I think my forecast of 40 SNP holds may be a bit optomistic.

    * Yes, I know!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,274
    Sturgeon looking utterly stupid on the top rate of tax.
  • TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

    With the greatest of respect, Bradford isn't that big a city in terms of local newspaper circulation.is quite small, with a circulation of 15k, which is small compared to say Leeds or Manchester,
    Give up ;-)

    Well the cover was pretty good at getting labours message across,it nearly frightened me into voting labour ;-)

    Wonder if the tories will do the same ?
    I'd be amazed if the Tories were targeting any of the Bradford seats.

    There's a few more plausible targets for them close by.

    Though I've given up any hope of the Tories taking Batley and Spen.
    Rumour that mary creagh will hold on in Wakefield but that was based on canvass returns last week according to wakefield express despite voting against article 50.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    edited June 2017
    I see the actor Mark Ruffalo, not even a Brit, has endorsed Corbyn

    Because @jeremycorbyn offers people an alternative to the Corporate status quo, which never ends well for them, I humbly endorse Corbyn.

    I really like him as an actor, but that is such a twatty way of putting an endorsement, and there are no shortage of examples. 'Humbly' endorse, my arse. And no, celebs going 'anyone who votes for Corbyn is a fool' would not be much better, but at least is less twatty.
  • Sorry to interrupt, anyone know where the politics forum has gone?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Judging by the QT audience* and Nicola's look of fear, I think my forecast of 40 SNP holds may be a bit optomistic.

    * Yes, I know!

    @MilesBriggsMSP: Never seen Nicola Sturgeon so rattled and not answering questions than tonight. The SNP's shocking record is catching up with her !#bbcqt
  • ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    edited June 2017

    Prodicus said:

    DavidL said:

    Surely the Eagles only have one song. You hear it, you wonder again how a bunch of dorks came up with that and then you go home.

    Desperado was/is brilliant. And even more so when sung by Karen carpenter.
    Try the Linda Ronstadt version.

    Don Henley and Glenn Fry of the Eagles were her backing band.
    Aha. Didn't notice that. Still have the vinyl somewhere! And all the Eagles' LPs, naturally.

    Lyin' Eyes. Great stuff.

  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,765

    isam said:

    @SeanT

    By the way, here is more Enoch & Buckley. No talk of immigration here, just a beautiful deconstruction of the prices and incomes policy, the perils of socialism and the moral conundrum of standing for parliament when you don't agree with the party line

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0YGdROxVE

    What I love about this is there is *no* embellishing: it's just one hour of very serious conversation, with a proper interviewer asking penetrating questions.

    Nothing else.

    In modern times, the interviewer would only be interested in forcing a gaffe, embarrassing the subject, or outing them as a bigot. The politician would want to avoid the questions, and get their soundbites across.

    Depressing.
    If you like Buckley, I recommend best of enemies on Netflix. Good fun seeing him spar with Gore Vidal.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Please could someone answer this - My local paper today(bradford T&A) had a political front sheet cover for labour,how much would this cost the labour party ?

    £10 to £15 grand.
    Even for a big city local paper ?

    With the greatest of respect, Bradford isn't that big a city in terms of local newspaper circulation.is quite small, with a circulation of 15k, which is small compared to say Leeds or Manchester,
    Give up ;-)

    Well the cover was pretty good at getting labours message across,it nearly frightened me into voting labour ;-)

    Wonder if the tories will do the same ?
    I'd be amazed if the Tories were targeting any of the Bradford seats.

    There's a few more plausible targets for them close by.

    Though I've given up any hope of the Tories taking Batley and Spen.
    Tories losing seats ;-)

    Bradford metropolitan area ?

    Keighley or shipley ;-)
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,635
    edited June 2017
    tlg86 said:

    Sturgeon looking utterly stupid on the top rate of tax.

    9/10 for Wee Jimmy so far I reckon. Keeping the middle class nats onside.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    LucyJones said:

    Completely OT: I have accidentally scratched the wall in my hallway- the paint has come off. Just a small scratch. Any DIY advice? I don't have any paint sample pots. Colour is magnolia. Maybe smear some toothpaste?? Help.

    Well, can't be any more boring than my usual posts.....

    I wouldn't recommend toothpaste. Ask neighbours? Loads of people have half pots of paint stored away and magnolia is v popular.
    No, no, no. There are lots of different versions of magnolia. If you don't know which one you have, get a flake of paint and get it colour-matched at your local d-i-y store. Probably cost around £20 for the smallest sized pot. You can probably just paint a couple of coats over the damaged part with a roller. Make sure the wall is prepped (i.e. lightly sanded and painted over with a base coat of diluted paint) before you start so it doesn't flake off again.
    Thanks. And there was me thinking TipEx..... ;-)
    My MiL used to keep some oil paints for matching colours when repairing china.

    It may well be possible to do something similar.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,765
    edited June 2017
    https://youtu.be/CzgfQvB2dvA

    For Buckley fans. On Netflix.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    edited June 2017
    Unconfirmed report that 1000's of PVs gone missing in the SW of England (as has mine and my daughters boyfriens) councils asking for people to report it to eliminate the possibility of fraud. Whilst mine is in yeovil major concern is Plymouth. As I said unconfirmed source seeking confirmation. They need to know to check if the vote has been used in the event of a challenge to the result and was not submitted by the person entitled, but difficult to do as you would have to forge a signature, more likely a problem in the postal distribution system.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830

    Sorry to interrupt, anyone know where the politics forum has gone?

    People are taking a break in order to have the partisan energy to go into the last days of the GE- like politicians being up for 2 days straight, you need to prepare for a marathon session like that.

    Me, I'm listening to some Simon and Garfunkel - very relaxing.
  • SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    AndyJS said:

    Surely the best GE Bee Gees song is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9oYSSjFI

    I once listened to this song about 50 times in a row, without a break. It's that good.
    Gosh, that is very good. I'd quite forgotten it.

    I reckon pop song writing is (ahem) a bit like thriller writing. People sneer at it (especially if it is popular) because it appears cheap and ubiquitous - sold in supermarkets like detergent. In reality, it is very difficult and few can do it well, hence the huge rewards if you get it right - as the Bee Gees clearly did.

    Here's another forsaken classic. In my mind the greatest song about male lovesickness and romantic rejection ever written

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpR8r0D2EyY

    "I'd pay the devil to replace her"

    GENIUS
    I love Hall and Oates.
    Also the subject of a magnificent Big Train sketch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5f-_I1df4
    I miss Big Train.
    It was the greatest comedy sketch show of all time. Oddly neglected. So brilliantly imaginative

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TZxFQaXkc
    I loved Big Train. Especially as the original had no canned laughter unlike the repeats. Trust the viewer to know what's funny.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JamieRoss7: A woman speculates that Sturgeon is "losing a lot of votes from SNP supporters" because they don't want a referendum now.
  • Torby_FennelTorby_Fennel Posts: 438
    HaroldO said:



    Hugely fucking miscast would be better, watching her interact with the Cybermen was just....bizarre.

    Yes, I don't rate Earthshock as highly as most fans do to begin with anyway. :/ It doesn't really do it for me.

  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    Nick Robinson > David Dimbleby
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    camel said:

    Nick Robinson > David Dimbleby

    Dimbleby is becoming unbearable these days.
  • ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658

    Sorry to interrupt, anyone know where the politics forum has gone?

    Points.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,830
    I've heard Corbyn speak, and he can be pretty good, although often his content is blander and more cliche than I'd have expected- why do people turn up in their thousands and thousands to hear it? I'd rather catch the clips of a speech from someone I supported than watch it live, unless it was truly groundbreaking, and most of his stuff has been said a thousand times.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,274
    camel said:

    Nick Robinson > David Dimbleby

    Absolutely. He did very well there.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,215
    isam said:

    kle4 said:

    Prodicus said:

    Murnaghan was brilliant and very cruel. Excellent.

    Didn't he go something like 'Because of all this I've been rereading this report, and I'm sure you have to'? Which is more subtle opening gambit when laying a trap than most.
    He toyed with her like a cat with a half dead bird
    It was bordering on cruel but if she wasn't such a lying bitch who has absolutely no knowledge of her cabinet position or portfolio it wouldn't have worked.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    @SeanT

    By the way, here is more Enoch & Buckley. No talk of immigration here, just a beautiful deconstruction of the prices and incomes policy, the perils of socialism and the moral conundrum of standing for parliament when you don't agree with the party line

    isam, if you believe all that, as I do, then why on earth "can't you wait" to vote for Labour again?
    Erm... I am not sure! I did say that it's true. Thinking about it, I cant see it happening really
  • kingbongokingbongo Posts: 393
    All this talk of Buckley and Powell makes me nostalgic for Brian Walden and Weekend world - we criticise pols for being shadows of former years' but nobody today even the sainted A Neill can do the job that Walden used to - as for politicians Powell and Foot sparring over opinion polls and the EC makes me embarrassed for our current crop
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    SeanT said:

    HaroldO said:

    SeanT said:

    HaroldO said:

    SeanT said:

    HaroldO said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    AndyJS said:

    Surely the best GE Bee Gees song is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9oYSSjFI

    I once listened to this song about 50 times in a row, without a break. It's that good.
    Gosh, that is very good. I'd quite forgotten it.

    I reckon pop song writing is (ahem) a bit like thriller writing. People sneer at it (especially if it is popular) because it appears cheap and ubiquitous - sold in supermarkets like detergent. In reality, it is very difficult and few can do it well, hence the huge rewards if you get it right - as the Bee Gees clearly did.

    Here's another forsaken classic. In my mind the greatest song about male lovesickness and romantic rejection ever written

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpR8r0D2EyY

    "I'd pay the devil to replace her"

    GENIUS
    I love Hall and Oates.
    Also the subject of a magnificent Big Train sketch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5f-_I1df4
    I miss Big Train.
    It was the greatest comedy sketch show of all time. Oddly neglected. So brilliantly imaginative

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TZxFQaXkc
    The staring contest's were my personal favourite.
    Also Darth Vader hoovering. And the wanking thing. And the rediscovered mother. And this, possibly the greatest sketch of all time in any form, the Working Classes via Hitchcock

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLToN2pjik8
    I have always found this funny and I have no idea why;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCPhkxskRVs
    Funniest show ever. Not sure why it is overlooked.
    At the time myself and my mates loved it (I was still at school for the first series), and the cast is packed with talent. The second series is not as good as the first though.
    Hmmm, time to see if it is on netflix otherwise it's dvd purchasing time.
    The first is definitely superior. It's classic sketch after classic sketch. Brilliant.

    The second is much patchier, but there are still total gems. Deffo worth buying or downloading.
    It's one of those shows that you think you own but....you don't. I shall rectify.
  • TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    BBC news turnoff every tory voter.
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185

    HaroldO said:



    Hugely fucking miscast would be better, watching her interact with the Cybermen was just....bizarre.

    Yes, I don't rate Earthshock as highly as most fans do to begin with anyway. :/ It doesn't really do it for me.

    I like most of it, just her in it ruins a good few scenes. And Adric of course.

    Wait, why do I like it again?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,525
    edited June 2017
    Back from the pub to find Diane finally appeared, only to open her mouth and insert her foot.
    Car crash TV

    https://twitter.com/_/status/871810034677698560
  • Pretty uncomfortable 30 minutes for Sturgeon.
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