When I suggested, about 18 months ago, that Amber Rudd might be the next Conservative leader, my suggestion was treated with derision by the usual suspects, and the bookies didn't even have her listed (despite the fact that she was already a Cabinet minister). In the event, the change of leadership came too early for her, but next time is quite possible. It's interesting that Theresa May has given her such a prominent place in her government and this campaign.
Rudd is outnumbered here, with a typically cambridge audience - all she can do is play the firm headed adult, and hope that plays well to those at home.
Find me a Russell Group university that is pro-Brexit!
Seen enough in 30 mins to know May would not have done a better job than Rudd so far. Remains to be seen how much damage May will get from her no show, but if Rudd keeps landing these blows on Corbyn it might be less of a factor.
Rudd is unapologetically repeating and repeating the Crosby lines. I presume this works in the aggregate as otherwise Crosby wouldn't do it, but it looks astonishingly robotic to me.
Everyone said that about the referendum - "Vote Leave - Take Back Control"
And 2015 election "Long term economic plan"
These "lines" do work with floaters.
Remember the vast majority of voters don't follow politics and only pick up the occasional bit of information and sound-bite.
Eh, depends how judge each person, who have different measures for success. Farron is getting a chance to be seen at least, Robertson sits back before weighing in magisterially, Corbyn gets a chance to get righteously angry and gets great applause for it, Rudd gets to play the serious politician, Wood...er, gets to be there. And Nuttal gets some limelight.
Wow, finally a Green on Labour attack, if mild.
Robertson laying it on a bit thick suggesting, in effect, that no one watching at home would have a problem with immigration. No one? He's good though, dignified, authoritative, convincing, playing to his audience well.
Nuttall doing some dirty work for the tories, people who like his arguments will mostly vote Tory. Meanwhile, the 'progressive parties' tearing each other apart
Not watching but I'm surprised people are surprised by Rudd. She was excellent in the Brexit debate.
Remember the quip Boris about driving home? She gets stuck in.
The Brexit debate??? Her side lost! She was bettered by her number two - Loathsome.
Yes but she was the best performer on her side and had the more difficult hand to play. I was for Brexit and she had me spitting feathers - she done good.
Nuttall doing some dirty work for the tories, people who like his arguments will mostly vote Tory. Meanwhile, the 'progressive parties' tearing each other apart
Finding it increasingly hard to believe the audience is actually representative of the voting public in terms of party support/leavers versus remainers.
not getting involved with the coalition of chaos with the rigged bbc audience
Radio 4 today had two people saying they were lifelong Labour and now voting Tory because they didn't like Jeremy Corbyn (cheques in the post?), and one person who said she was voting Labour but either she wasn't asked her reason or they cut out the reason she gave. Tonight they'll be playing "God save the queen", not the Internationale.
Lucas is RIGHT on nuclear weapons, HS2 and Hinkley Point ! I accept I'm in the minority on the first though
Not sure about the first. I'd want us to sign some sort of deal with the US and/or France. I want the security of nukes, just not sure we need to have our own system.
Finding it increasingly hard to believe the audience is actually representative of the voting public in terms of party support/leavers versus remainers.
Maybe YouGov is right, the Tories are not as popular as they think...
Corbyn looking like he'd be bullied by the SNP in coalition.
One thing Corbyn can be relied upon to do is to stick to his policies, after all he has done so for 35 years in Westminster.
Errm except for the small matter of having voted and campaigned against the EU continuously for 40 years until about 18 months ago for some strange reason. Always bemuses me that people forget that.
Finding it increasingly hard to believe the audience is actually representative of the voting public in terms of party support/leavers versus remainers.
You have to remember this is Cambridge; even the Tories are socially liberal there. The immigration question in a city hugely dependent on foreign students and foreign connections wasn't the best one to judge the left/right balance of the audience.
Eh, depends how judge each person, who have different measures for success. Farron is getting a chance to be seen at least, Robertson sits back before weighing in magisterially, Corbyn gets a chance to get righteously angry and gets great applause for it, Rudd gets to play the serious politician, Wood...er, gets to be there. And Nuttal gets some limelight.
Wow, finally a Green on Labour attack, if mild.
Robertson laying it on a bit thick suggesting, in effect, that no one watching at home would have a problem with immigration. No one? He's good though, dignified, authoritative, convincing, playing to his audience well.
Finding it increasingly hard to believe the audience is actually representative of the voting public in terms of party support/leavers versus remainers.
Maybe YouGov is right, the Tories are not as popular as they think...
Quite possibly. But no way are 52% of the audience erstwhile Leavers.
Jezza not doing much reassurance of the "sums adding up", I have to admit. But many people watching will share his raw anger at the terrible state of the country, and MIGHT just Trump-style decide to emotionally lash out, to hell with the practicalities.
Corbyn looking like he'd be bullied by the SNP in coalition.
One thing Corbyn can be relied upon to do is to stick to his policies, after all he has done so for 35 years in Westminster.
Errm except for the small matter of having voted and campaigned against the EU continuously for 40 years until about 18 months ago for some strange reason. Always bemuses me that people forget that.
How unlike May, the U turn expert (Rudd too of course!), the difference is that Corbyn does believe in Brexit.
Finding it increasingly hard to believe the audience is actually representative of the voting public in terms of party support/leavers versus remainers.
Maybe YouGov is right, the Tories are not as popular as they think...
If the Tories were this unpopular Labour would not have needed the crap manifesto to recover, they wouldn't have lost the locals so badly.
Finding it increasingly hard to believe the audience is actually representative of the voting public in terms of party support/leavers versus remainers.
Maybe YouGov is right, the Tories are not as popular as they think...
If the Tories were this unpopular Labour would not have needed the crap manifesto to recover, they wouldn't have lost the locals so badly.
It was bad but worth remembering it wasn't as bad as the polls.
I can't help think that "watching" this via PB comments from Provence is far more relaxing than the real thing. The outcomes seem simple though: Blue can't underperform unless Rudd does something truly awful (she won't) but there isn't any upside either. They've taken the hit through May's chicken apologia on the 6 o'clock news and can now move on. No further upside for Red either - Corbyn has to avoid doing anything stupider than he has in the last fortnight so he doesn't take the gloss off his increasingly shiny reputation. Like an England cricket supporter, he could avoid disaster for two years straight and I'd still be behind the sofa. Farron - well, the only way is up I guess, but I'm not sure he'll find the ladder.
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Remember the quip Boris about driving home? She gets stuck in.
But as Nutjob said Tory targets are Jackanory they have increased it to record levels
Labour, propped up by the SNP et al, can't agree on a single thing
If virtue signalling could be transformed into energy, that room would be able to power the City of London for about a decade
but Tory record is equally dire
Wow, finally a Green on Labour attack, if mild.
Robertson laying it on a bit thick suggesting, in effect, that no one watching at home would have a problem with immigration. No one? He's good though, dignified, authoritative, convincing, playing to his audience well.
Tory majority has drifted to 1.22-1.23.
Good line from Corbyn
Corbyn now having to be more realistic, less righteous anger at punishing the disabled and so on, more 'well, this is complicated' stuff.
Don't ask me why - If Plaid and SNP are there so should the Northern Irish.
They should be there...
Hard to know who will be the first to fall on their sword in the early hours of June 8th.
Probably one of Leanne, Tim and Nuttall. Depending on what happens could be Theresa and Nicola as well.
At least Jazza is safe.
Expected attack from the Greens about Rudd being on the Remain side, dealt with about as you'd expect.
ZING.
HS2 and Hinkley Point should go!
Maybe the lefties in the audience are just more vocal?