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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,859
    I hope everyone remembers, when things calm down over the next few weeks, that the Tories would have been happy with 60-80 majority, so if they end up getting that, it won't be a disappointment, even if from these heights it looks like it should be.
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    Jason said:

    Jason said:

    Have we all fallen for TSE's spin again?

    What spin, there's about 4 more polls due tonight.
    Sorry, I was just going by your previous *statements* regarding the 9.30pm poll. It was rather a damp squib compared to the others.
    See my post at 9.41pm
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    kle4 said:

    Hmm - even the most optimistic have been struggling to see more than about 5 prospective Tory gains in Scotland, what ones could possibly be vulnerable?

    At SCon 30% it's a whole different ball game.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    So what are Team Jezza's plan for next week. He has tried the rigged election routine, of course the Tories, the Tories, the Tories, the NHS, .....fake fat Elvis you are needed.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    spudgfsh said:
    SNP down to low 40s? LDs will surely pick up at least a couple.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Ok, that is eyebrow-raising.
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    Alistair said:

    Complete realignment

    If the conservatives win 12 seats does that take the SNP down to 47 if no Lib Dems
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,893

    Can one of you classical scholars please tell me which is the appropriate complete victory metaphor from the ancient world that these polls imply?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Carthage_(c._149_BC)

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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    alex. said:

    Chameleon said:

    Scott_P said:
    Yup, this is the one that TSE is ramping. Got to be.
    It's quite difficult to get them to 12 on Baxter
    I would assume that it factors in unionist tactical voting which Baxtering can't do. If not then the poll may be even more seismic than it seems from the headline.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    I always thought Edinburgh South was very winnable for the Tories. The likes of Stirling and Angus must be included in the 12 as well.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,854
    edited April 2017

    Can one of you classical scholars please tell me which is the appropriate complete victory metaphor from the ancient world that these polls imply?

    The Battle of Kleidion

    The ensuing battle was a major defeat for the Bulgarians. Bulgarian soldiers were captured and reputedly blinded by order of Basil II,
    I was thinking what Genghis Khan did to Minor Asia.
    Yes. "Man's greatest joy is to slaughter his enemies, to drive them before him, and to listen to the Lamentations of the women."
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Alistair said:

    I Plan to do a polling round up sometime between 10pm and 10.30pm

    Check your spam folder for other polls
    I've told all my polling contacts to email, text, whatsapp, and Snapchat me all their future embargoed polls.
    You forgot hand delivery.
    Polls by orgasm is a new even for PB ....
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,859
    If this is what happens when TMay avoids the public, I can see why she is keen to keep doing so.
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    I'll let you into another Jesus Fucking Christ moment, connected to the first one.

    Tactical Unionist Voting could see those 12 Tory seats in Scotland, a lot higher.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886

    Alistair said:

    Complete realignment

    If the conservatives win 12 seats does that take the SNP down to 47 if no Lib Dems
    Shetland & Orkney will always be LD, and the LDs won the Fife constituency in the Scottish Parliament election, so I assume that they'd get those two. SNP down to 45 in that case.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436
    WHERE CAN I FIND MORE SCOTTISH SEATS MARKETS?

    Sorry to shout. Betfair Sports only have a handful.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    If this is right, late swing to Labour seems less likely.

    https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/855883786206281730
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    OUTOUT Posts: 569
    Now you see what i'm saying about Labour supporting papers.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,882
    alex. said:

    Chameleon said:

    Scott_P said:
    Yup, this is the one that TSE is ramping. Got to be.
    It's quite difficult to get them to 12 on Baxter
    And they polled 28% in the last Panelbase, so it must be more than 30%
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886

    I'll let you into another Jesus Fucking Christ moment, connected to the first one.

    Tactical Unionist Voting could see those 12 Tory seats in Scotland, a lot higher.

    Fuck me. I assumed that those 12 were including tactical voting.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    If the Scots poll is as it sounds then clearly May is resonating big time up there. That is major.
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    DadgeDadge Posts: 2,038

    glw said:

    And the rest. Unbelievable really, remember when everyone though the EU referendum would tear the Conservatives apart?
    It did tear the Conservatives apart, but May's phoenix rose from the Cameroonian ashes. To quote Neil Kinnock, they got their party back.
    In the medium term, becoming the Brexit Party will have consequences of course. Team UK is in for a rough ride over the next few years, and the Tory party will now suffer as a consequence. Thing is, she could've taken advantage of Labour's Corbyn problem without tying her party's flag so tightly to the Brexit mast, so I imagine quite a few Tories will start to fall out of love with her before too long.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,424
    Nicky S is going to be pissed!!
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    ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312

    Someone I trust has said when I see one poll tonight, my reaction will be

    'Jesus fucking Christ' and he wasn't talking about the ComRes poll.

    I'm really not sure what would surprise me now. Labour in the teens, I suppose.
    that high?
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    kle4 said:

    I hope everyone remembers, when things calm down over the next few weeks, that the Tories would have been happy with 60-80 majority, so if they end up getting that, it won't be a disappointment, even if from these heights it looks like it should be.

    People didn't remember that for the 2010 election, which for years wasn't supposed to yield a Tory majority.
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    This evening will be forever remembered as The Night of the Long Polls.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,833
    Labour "wiped out"? They've only got one Scottish seat anyway...
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    Why the Tory leads could get even bigger

    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/855885980267663362
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
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    Bet on those Scottish seats. NOW.

    I just had £10 on the Tories at 16/1 in Angus.

    Same here.

    I am on PP but they only have a few up - would someone please tell me were there is a wider selection of constituency bets? Thanks.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,783
    Floater said:

    Chameleon said:

    Jason said:

    Have we all fallen for TSE's spin again?

    What spin, there's about 4 more polls due tonight.
    You better not be bamboozling us...
    I think its fair to say that his comment was a fair reflection of what a lot of us felt when we read about the Scot findings.
    I think a comment on 1-2 seats would have been met with "oh well, hoped for a bit better, work still to do.....". but 12 is double most optimistic estimates.....
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436
    felix said:

    If the Scots poll is as it sounds then clearly May is resonating big time up there. That is major.

    Or Ruth Davidson is, May is at least neutral doesn't repel, but Sturgeon does because IndyRef2 can just go do one.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436
    So glad I backed the Tories at 8/1 in Aberdeen South and 16/1 in Angus.

    Those prices won't last more than a few more minutes.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    Bet on those Scottish seats. NOW.

    I just had £10 on the Tories at 16/1 in Angus.

    Same here.

    I am on PP but they only have a few up - would someone please tell me were there is a wider selection of constituency bets? Thanks.
    PP/BF are the experts here. So perhaps nowhere... (and aren't they lucky!)
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    If I wasn't already sitting down I'd have to have a sit down. And the campaign has barely got going.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,097
    Jason said:

    This evening will be forever remembered as The Night of the Long Polls.

    The day the polls burned.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436

    Bet on those Scottish seats. NOW.

    I just had £10 on the Tories at 16/1 in Angus.

    Same here.

    I am on PP but they only have a few up - would someone please tell me were there is a wider selection of constituency bets? Thanks.
    I can't find the PP ones.
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    DeClareDeClare Posts: 483
    felix said:

    I think UKIP may even disband before June.

    What about the Scottish Labour Party?
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    Chameleon said:

    Alistair said:

    Complete realignment

    If the conservatives win 12 seats does that take the SNP down to 47 if no Lib Dems
    Shetland & Orkney will always be LD, and the LDs won the Fife constituency in the Scottish Parliament election, so I assume that they'd get those two. SNP down to 45 in that case.
    Angus Robertson in Moray must be under threat. I am not surprised as most of my Scots family live in Moray and the fishing communities are pro Brexit
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    felix said:

    If the Scots poll is as it sounds then clearly May is resonating big time up there. That is major.

    Or Ruth Davidson is, May is at least neutral doesn't repel, but Sturgeon does because IndyRef2 can just go do one.
    I keep wanting to write a thread that shows a plausible way for Ruth to become May's successor as PM.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    Floater said:
    That's SCon over 30%...
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,356

    Can one of you classical scholars please tell me which is the appropriate complete victory metaphor from the ancient world that these polls imply?

    Operation Ten-Go, from 1945.

    Oh, you said Classical World :)
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    spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,312
    GIN1138 said:


    Labour "wiped out"? They've only got one Scottish seat anyway...

    That's still a massive drop in two years. Scotland was effectively a Labour fiefdom for 18 years.
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,893
    kle4 said:

    Can one of you classical scholars please tell me which is the appropriate complete victory metaphor from the ancient world that these polls imply?

    Well, it ain't Classical, but the fall of the khwarezmid empire?
    F**k that. It's the last Kaled-Thal war. After this, the only thing moving in Labour will be bacteria...
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    Has anyone heard from TUD or MalcG?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    12 seats is roughly where the Tories were in 1987 and 1992. Probably the same constituencies as then, taking boundary changes into account. (Except Edinburgh South).
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    Bet on those Scottish seats. NOW.

    I just had £10 on the Tories at 16/1 in Angus.

    Same here.

    I am on PP but they only have a few up - would someone please tell me were there is a wider selection of constituency bets? Thanks.
    I can't find the PP ones.
    They have Aberdeen South and Angus at the same odds you quoted but not much else.
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    Mirror ComRes has Tories hitting 50. This won't be a general election. It's going to be the murder of the Labour Party.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124

    felix said:

    If the Scots poll is as it sounds then clearly May is resonating big time up there. That is major.

    Or Ruth Davidson is, May is at least neutral doesn't repel, but Sturgeon does because IndyRef2 can just go do one.
    I think it has to be both and yes it's a stunner.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,859

    Bet on those Scottish seats. NOW.

    I just had £10 on the Tories at 16/1 in Angus.

    Already in to 7, but I got a few quid on at 16/1.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Chameleon said:

    Floater said:
    That's SCon over 30%...
    They are saying Tories more than doubled their 2015 support and their 2015 support was 14.9%. So....
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    DeClare said:

    felix said:

    I think UKIP may even disband before June.

    What about the Scottish Labour Party?
    Who?
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    DeClare said:

    felix said:

    I think UKIP may even disband before June.

    What about the Scottish Labour Party?
    They'll elect Anas Sarwar or Neil Findlay as leader, just to really finish things.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,883

    Why the Tory leads could get even bigger

    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/855885980267663362

    SwingBack still to come.
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    It's pretty clear the Tories are getting a surge in Scotland so I guess this is reflected in the national polls which means they're not doing so well in England, which may be some comfort to Lib Dems
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,424

    Mirror ComRes has Tories hitting 50. This won't be a general election. It's going to be the murder of the Labour Party.

    The country has decided this election to send the Labour Party to Dignitas because it's the kindest way....
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    Alistair said:

    Chameleon said:

    Floater said:
    That's SCon over 30%...
    They are saying Tories more than doubled their 2015 support and their 2015 support was 14.9%. So....
    True. 29.9% is possible.
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    Chameleon said:

    Alistair said:

    Complete realignment

    If the conservatives win 12 seats does that take the SNP down to 47 if no Lib Dems
    Shetland & Orkney will always be LD, and the LDs won the Fife constituency in the Scottish Parliament election, so I assume that they'd get those two. SNP down to 45 in that case.
    Angus Robertson in Moray must be under threat. I am not surprised as most of my Scots family live in Moray and the fishing communities are pro Brexit
    Betting opportunity I would assume
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,859
    edited April 2017
    These UKIP odds in Scotland puzzle me - some at 200/1, others 300/1, some 500/1. Surely all basically the same, low, chance.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    RobD said:

    Twelve seats... :o *faints*

    William Hill:
    Total Conservative Party Seats In Scotland Over/Under
    Over 9.5 at 20/1
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    I wonder if Sir Crosby's polling pre-Easter showed similar results and Mrs May got a phone call to tell her she wouldn't be insane not to go for a GE?
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    What's the betting the chattering classes still won't get what's happening - middle Britain's taking the country back.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,833

    Mirror ComRes has Tories hitting 50. This won't be a general election. It's going to be the murder of the Labour Party.

    Could this be one of those once in a century, epoch defining elections... Last one probably 1924 (when the Liberals "died") ?
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    TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    This talk of Jesus screeches like chalk on a blackboard.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,984
    RobD said:

    Got impatient for the wiki - here's my polling spreadsheet, just like in 2015.

    goo.gl/7cTbAf

    Let me fix that link:

    https://goo.gl/7cTbAf
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,783

    Chameleon said:

    Alistair said:

    Complete realignment

    If the conservatives win 12 seats does that take the SNP down to 47 if no Lib Dems
    Shetland & Orkney will always be LD, and the LDs won the Fife constituency in the Scottish Parliament election, so I assume that they'd get those two. SNP down to 45 in that case.
    Angus Robertson in Moray must be under threat. I am not surprised as most of my Scots family live in Moray and the fishing communities are pro Brexit
    I'm on record as saying he's safe - so he's probably doomed!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Are some Tories starting to worry that Corbyn might actually be replaced if this continues?
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    BTW you're going to love the headline on the next thread
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    DeClare said:

    felix said:

    I think UKIP may even disband before June.

    What about the Scottish Labour Party?
    One day we'll tell our grandchildren stories about what one of those used to be.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,833
    AndyJS said:

    Are some Tories starting to worry that Corbyn might actually be replaced if this continues?

    This is the Labour Party. Do you really think they would do that? ;)
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    If CCHQ's private polling was anything like this, why did Mrs May go for a 7 week campaign?

    A quick cut and run of the bare minimum would have been most sensible. The greatest risk now seems to be the prospect of either a Con mistake, apathy, or a feeling that an overwhelming victory is bad for democracy taking hold.

    All of these are more likely with a longer campaign.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    In 100 years time, in a lonely cemetery, there will be a tombstone.

    Inscribed in lettering still legible will be the words:

    Here lies Jeremy Corbyn.
    He thought he was a hero,
    but he destroyed the Labour Party.


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    Chameleon said:

    Alistair said:

    Complete realignment

    If the conservatives win 12 seats does that take the SNP down to 47 if no Lib Dems
    Shetland & Orkney will always be LD, and the LDs won the Fife constituency in the Scottish Parliament election, so I assume that they'd get those two. SNP down to 45 in that case.
    Angus Robertson in Moray must be under threat. I am not surprised as most of my Scots family live in Moray and the fishing communities are pro Brexit
    I'm on record as saying he's safe - so he's probably doomed!
    Lot of SNP members who are Brexiteers and pro Union. Remember RAF Lossiemouth has just had a 400 million defence award and the investment must be threatened on Independence.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited April 2017

    If CCHQ's private polling was anything like this, why did Mrs May go for a 7 week campaign?

    A quick cut and run of the bare minimum would have been most sensible. The greatest risk now seems to be the prospect of either a Con mistake, apathy, or a feeling that an overwhelming victory is bad for democracy taking hold.

    All of these are more likely with a longer campaign.

    They couldn't do it much quicker, due to FTA, local election etc etc etc.
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    ReggieCideReggieCide Posts: 4,312
    Dadge said:

    glw said:

    And the rest. Unbelievable really, remember when everyone though the EU referendum would tear the Conservatives apart?
    It did tear the Conservatives apart, but May's phoenix rose from the Cameroonian ashes. To quote Neil Kinnock, they got their party back.
    In the medium term, becoming the Brexit Party will have consequences of course. Team UK is in for a rough ride over the next few years, and the Tory party will now suffer as a consequence. Thing is, she could've taken advantage of Labour's Corbyn problem without tying her party's flag so tightly to the Brexit mast, so I imagine quite a few Tories will start to fall out of love with her before too long.
    define "too long"
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436
    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    Twelve seats... :o *faints*

    William Hill:
    Total Conservative Party Seats In Scotland Over/Under
    Over 9.5 at 20/1
    Thanks. Just got on.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Mirror ComRes has Tories hitting 50. This won't be a general election. It's going to be the murder of the Labour Party.

    Not murder, it's suicide.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Wonder if this will dent Labour's poll ratings...

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/855888626701533184
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    Sun Tel headline linking Corbyn to increased terror risk - the long slow process of dredging up Jezza's unwise associations begins.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Quick thingy I've just done.

    If you take the 2015 vote and add 66% of the Lab vote to Con then I make it 30% Con support and 5 Seats to the Conservatives in Scotland.

    The 3 borders seats, East Renfrewshire and Edinburgh South.
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    spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,312
    GIN1138 said:

    Mirror ComRes has Tories hitting 50. This won't be a general election. It's going to be the murder of the Labour Party.

    Could this be one of those once in a century, epoch defining elections... Last one probably 1924 (when the Liberals "died") ?
    in 1924 Labour was there to replace the liberals. the polling isn't showing anyone who would replace Labour (at the moment). This might 'break' the labour party but whether the labour party fixes itself or proves unable to do so over the next 4 to 5 years will say whether the LibDems can overtake Labour.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    Where do you find constituency betting on PP?
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    GeoffM said:

    RobD said:

    Twelve seats... :o *faints*

    William Hill:
    Total Conservative Party Seats In Scotland Over/Under
    Over 9.5 at 20/1
    Thanks. Just got on.
    They've locked my effing account! So it's my account balance of, er, 24p on...
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    If CCHQ's private polling was anything like this, why did Mrs May go for a 7 week campaign?

    A quick cut and run of the bare minimum would have been most sensible. The greatest risk now seems to be the prospect of either a Con mistake, apathy, or a feeling that an overwhelming victory is bad for democracy taking hold.

    All of these are more likely with a longer campaign.

    That's the thing that's getting me 3 swift bubbly weeks of froth and bam an eternal Con majority across the land.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,436

    felix said:

    If the Scots poll is as it sounds then clearly May is resonating big time up there. That is major.

    Or Ruth Davidson is, May is at least neutral doesn't repel, but Sturgeon does because IndyRef2 can just go do one.
    I keep wanting to write a thread that shows a plausible way for Ruth to become May's successor as PM.
    That might be possible now.

    And what better way to preserve the Union than to have a Scottish Tory UK PM?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    11 possible Tory gains in Scotland:

    West Aberdeenshire
    Dumfries
    Berwickshire
    Aberdeen South
    East Renfrewshire
    Moray
    Perth
    Angus
    Stirling
    Edinburgh South
    Edinburgh South West / Banff & Buchan

    Have I missed any more obvious targets?
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527

    If CCHQ's private polling was anything like this, why did Mrs May go for a 7 week campaign?

    A quick cut and run of the bare minimum would have been most sensible. The greatest risk now seems to be the prospect of either a Con mistake, apathy, or a feeling that an overwhelming victory is bad for democracy taking hold.

    All of these are more likely with a longer campaign.

    Since the FTPA there have to be 5 weeks - excluding Bank Holidays - between Dissolution and Polling Day.
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    BTW you're going to love the headline on the next thread

    dont mention football
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133

    If CCHQ's private polling was anything like this, why did Mrs May go for a 7 week campaign?

    A quick cut and run of the bare minimum would have been most sensible. The greatest risk now seems to be the prospect of either a Con mistake, apathy, or a feeling that an overwhelming victory is bad for democracy taking hold.

    All of these are more likely with a longer campaign.

    Minimum is five weeks which would I think have put it in schools' half term?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,783

    Chameleon said:

    Alistair said:

    Complete realignment

    If the conservatives win 12 seats does that take the SNP down to 47 if no Lib Dems
    Shetland & Orkney will always be LD, and the LDs won the Fife constituency in the Scottish Parliament election, so I assume that they'd get those two. SNP down to 45 in that case.
    Angus Robertson in Moray must be under threat. I am not surprised as most of my Scots family live in Moray and the fishing communities are pro Brexit
    I'm on record as saying he's safe - so he's probably doomed!
    Lot of SNP members who are Brexiteers and pro Union. Remember RAF Lossiemouth has just had a 400 million defence award and the investment must be threatened on Independence.
    Certainly the SNP has the highest proportion of LEAVE voters after UKIP and the Tories....
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,859

    Mirror ComRes has Tories hitting 50. This won't be a general election. It's going to be the murder of the Labour Party.

    Never before in the history of the Labour Party had such a mass of voters moved and suffered together. This was no disciplined march, it was a stampede, without order and without a goal, millions of people, ideologically unprepared, driving headlong away from the party. It was the beginning of the rout of civilization, of the massacre of the left wing.

    Richard Burton, War of the Worlds (2017 GE, amended version)

    Actually, I'm among the more optimistic about their chances.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,984
    justin124 said:

    If CCHQ's private polling was anything like this, why did Mrs May go for a 7 week campaign?

    A quick cut and run of the bare minimum would have been most sensible. The greatest risk now seems to be the prospect of either a Con mistake, apathy, or a feeling that an overwhelming victory is bad for democracy taking hold.

    All of these are more likely with a longer campaign.

    Since the FTPA there have to be 5 weeks - excluding Bank Holidays - between Dissolution and Polling Day.
    Could have dissolved two weeks earlier, but then wouldn't have had time for wash up.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024

    BTW you're going to love the headline on the next thread

    Labour on course for a punishment f&ck?
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    If CCHQ's private polling was anything like this, why did Mrs May go for a 7 week campaign?

    A quick cut and run of the bare minimum would have been most sensible. The greatest risk now seems to be the prospect of either a Con mistake, apathy, or a feeling that an overwhelming victory is bad for democracy taking hold.

    All of these are more likely with a longer campaign.

    1) Needed time if she had to no confidence herself and have two weeks to call the election

    2) The Tories need seven weeks to tell the country Jezza's back story
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549

    I wonder if Sir Crosby's polling pre-Easter showed similar results and Mrs May got a phone call to tell her she wouldn't be insane not to go for a GE?

    "PM, we asked the public would they like to kick Corbyn up the arse, and the result was overwhelmingly positive."
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,984

    felix said:

    If the Scots poll is as it sounds then clearly May is resonating big time up there. That is major.

    Or Ruth Davidson is, May is at least neutral doesn't repel, but Sturgeon does because IndyRef2 can just go do one.
    I keep wanting to write a thread that shows a plausible way for Ruth to become May's successor as PM.
    That might be possible now.

    And what better way to preserve the Union than to have a Scottish Tory UK PM?
    A third woman leader.. I can just hear the gnashing of teeth....
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