HARRY ENTEN 2:20 AM Johnson is at just 3 percent of the national vote. That may go up slightly, but he’s likely not going to get close to 5 percent. In the end, most voters ended up choosing either Clinton or Trump.
@Pong dont care about that dick, it's all about the Stein.
Where's Miss @PlatoSaid this morning? Stand up and take a bow that lady.
If Plato had not pasted so much nonsense and obviously false reports, people might have taken her more seriously.
It doesnt matter if what she pasted is nonsense or false, what matters is it is the same thing that those who voted trump were reading and therefore was worth factoring into your thinking
We forgot that people cannot resist a button marked 'do not press'.
From Wikipedia:
The Imp of the Perverse is a metaphor for the urge to do exactly the wrong thing in a given situation for the sole reason that it is possible for wrong to be done. The impulse is compared to an imp (a small demon) which leads an otherwise decent person into mischief.
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L’appel du vide, literally "the call of the void" is a French phrase used to refer to intellectual suicidal thoughts, or the urge to engage in self-destructive (suicidal) behaviors during everyday life. Examples include thinking about swerving in to the opposite lane while driving, or feeling the urge to jump off a cliff edge while standing on it. These thoughts are not accompanied by emotional distress.
Where's Miss @PlatoSaid this morning? Stand up and take a bow that lady.
If Plato had not pasted so much nonsense and obviously false reports, people might have taken her more seriously.
It doesnt matter if what she pasted is nonsense or false, what matters is it is the same thing that those who voted trump were reading and therefore was worth factoring into your thinking
Agreed, and I did back Trump. But that was not what Plato was saying. She was right but for the wrong reasons.
Where's Miss @PlatoSaid this morning? Stand up and take a bow that lady.
If Plato had not pasted so much nonsense and obviously false reports, people might have taken her more seriously.
It doesnt matter if what she pasted is nonsense or false, what matters is it is the same thing that those who voted trump were reading and therefore was worth factoring into your thinking
No, she claimed it was true. There is a big difference.
I had no problem with the obscure news channel clips she posted, they were interesting but the obviously false libellous stuff is what she got really excited about in a wake up steeple manner.
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
Where's Miss @PlatoSaid this morning? Stand up and take a bow that lady.
If Plato had not pasted so much nonsense and obviously false reports, people might have taken her more seriously.
It doesnt matter if what she pasted is nonsense or false, what matters is it is the same thing that those who voted trump were reading and therefore was worth factoring into your thinking
Putin's trolls have excelled themselves, though I wonder if even Putin planned for this.
Off to an LD party meeting tonight, at least we won't just be talking of Brexit!
I would just like to mention that although they are painfully slow at calling anything, CNN's coverage has been brilliantly watchable, thoroughly analytical and professionally done. Beeb watch and learn.
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I would just like to mention that although they are painfully slow at calling anything, CNN's coverage has been brilliantly watchable, thoroughly analytical and professionally done. Beeb watch and learn.
The right is now in full control of America. Their power is as absolute as you can get in a democracy. They now have to deliver. Look out for what happens when they don't. It's going to get very nasty.
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
She's certainly not been a good choice as candidate, but these results show a pro-trumpist policy vote (even if they dislike Trump himself) more than anti Hillary. Any mainstream democrat would have lost this. Bernie may have been more competitive but still think he would have lost.
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
I would just like to mention that although they are painfully slow at calling anything, CNN's coverage has been brilliantly watchable, thoroughly analytical and professionally done. Beeb watch and learn.
I agree, their coverage was far better than the BBC.
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
Given that Obama's legacy will amount to zero you could equally make the case that it was his premature candidacy that set in train the whole process. Clinton should have been the candidate in 2008.
Nah. To lead you need to serve, to love and to understand your people. Clinton did none of those. To refer to even one American citizen as "deplorable" rules her unfit for any public office in my view.
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
Not just Hillary's. Remember Trump first had to defeat the scions of the Republican establishment, including Jeb Bush.
but it doesn't sound like a concession though. "Nothing more to say tonight"
Could this be the first election where both sides claim it's been rigged against them?
North Carolina law suits, evidence of vote machine tampering, it's only getting started.
Trump won it by 4%. Unless it's widespread, that wont change anything.
4% isn't a proper margin to decide anything. They need to have a second referendum to find out exactly which version of Trump everyone thought they were voting for.
The right is now in full control of America. Their power is as absolute as you can get in a democracy. They now have to deliver. Look out for what happens when they don't. It's going to get very nasty.
It is a very protectionalist and isolationist right, not the right of Reagan but rather that of the 1920's.
US election totals latest Popular vote Trump 48.1% Clinton 47.2% Electoral College Trump 268 Clinton 215 http://edition.cnn.com/election CNN reporting Hillary Clinton just conceded to Donald Trump, looks like Trump is the next US President after another bad night for most pollsters. VP elect Pence now coming up to Trump HQ to introduce Donald Trump
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
Given that Obama's legacy will amount to zero you could equally make the case that it was his premature candidacy that set in train the whole process. Clinton should have been the candidate in 2008.
Do you honestly think she would have beaten John McCain? Because I don't - not even with Palin on the ticket.
The right is now in full control of America. Their power is as absolute as you can get in a democracy. They now have to deliver. Look out for what happens when they don't. It's going to get very nasty.
It is a very protectionalist and isolationist right, not the right of Reagan but rather that of the 1920's.
Yep - and it will fail. But it will go down fighting. The US is not going to be a nice place to be for the next few years.
I'm surprised but not entirely shocked. What we must now hope is that this will herald a massive reset of the Political landscape, as Brexit has begun to do here.
Foreign policy, fiscal policy, both should now be up for grabs. Neither have been good for the West during the 'Neo Con' years, the UK included. The carnage in the Middle East is a message in itself.
Hopefully, despite Trump being a terrible candidate, it will drive both parties to re-evaluate their positions and come up with some fresh thinking.
Well that was the second " where were you when ? " moment of the year. Diana, 9/11, Brexit and now Trump. Two lifetime defining moments in a matter of months. Congratulations again to those that called it correctly. The West is in real trouble.
We forgot that people cannot resist a button marked 'do not press'.
If Corbyn wasnt Corbyn, his ideas could gain traction. Cons shouldnt assume that a far left labour is unelectable.
As I've been saying since his re-election. People have been massively underestimating Corbyn: he's only on the leadership ballot as a sop to the left. He won't last a week. The party will desert him. Etc, etc. Heck, I've been guilty of some of those.
Yet he has survived.
I still wouldn't say he's likely to win, but he's certainly outplayed the rivals in his own party so far.
For the record, I think his main purpose is to change the Labour party so that the leader after him (hopefully more electable) will be running on a leftist platform. But that doesn't mean he won't take any opportunity if it arises.
Where's Miss @PlatoSaid this morning? Stand up and take a bow that lady.
If Plato had not pasted so much nonsense and obviously false reports, people might have taken her more seriously.
It doesnt matter if what she pasted is nonsense or false, what matters is it is the same thing that those who voted trump were reading and therefore was worth factoring into your thinking
Putin's trolls have excelled themselves, though I wonder if even Putin planned for this.
Off to an LD party meeting tonight, at least we won't just be talking of Brexit!
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
Given that Obama's legacy will amount to zero you could equally make the case that it was his premature candidacy that set in train the whole process. Clinton should have been the candidate in 2008.
Do you honestly think she would have beaten John McCain? Because I don't - not even with Palin on the ticket.
If she'd lost the general in 2008 she wouldn't have been running in 2016.
Where's Miss @PlatoSaid this morning? Stand up and take a bow that lady.
If Plato had not pasted so much nonsense and obviously false reports, people might have taken her more seriously.
It doesnt matter if what she pasted is nonsense or false, what matters is it is the same thing that those who voted trump were reading and therefore was worth factoring into your thinking
Putin's trolls have excelled themselves, though I wonder if even Putin planned for this.
Off to an LD party meeting tonight, at least we won't just be talking of Brexit!
You're not really going with Putin are you?
Why not? There's certainly a point to be made with it.
Where's Miss @PlatoSaid this morning? Stand up and take a bow that lady.
Plato went all wobbly wobbly didn't she and went for a narrow Cliton win?
I confirmed my opinion of months on Trump winning as a certainty the other week when that Jonah ,McTernan, went across to campaign for Hilary. That was the coup de grace for her.
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2016 Clinton loses WV by 41%
Feel sorry for the world but not her. Never her.
Can't think of a single witty remark or humorous comment.
The Imp of the Perverse is a metaphor for the urge to do exactly the wrong thing in a given situation for the sole reason that it is possible for wrong to be done. The impulse is compared to an imp (a small demon) which leads an otherwise decent person into mischief.
You may also be interested in...
L’appel du vide, literally "the call of the void" is a French phrase used to refer to intellectual suicidal thoughts, or the urge to engage in self-destructive (suicidal) behaviors during everyday life. Examples include thinking about swerving in to the opposite lane while driving, or feeling the urge to jump off a cliff edge while standing on it. These thoughts are not accompanied by emotional distress.
I had no problem with the obscure news channel clips she posted, they were interesting but the obviously false libellous stuff is what she got really excited about in a wake up steeple manner.
This is very much her fault. If she had taken the hint in 2008 and decided she wasn't able to be President, this whole disaster could have been avoided.
It is her sense of entitlement, her arrogance and her incompetence, backed up by a complacent party in thrall to her self-estimation, that has led to Trump.
Despite what has happened and bearing in mind what I said earlier about her humiliation, she deserves our scorn not our pity.
HRC apparently concedes on phone....
Reported on BBC news live
Off to an LD party meeting tonight, at least we won't just be talking of Brexit!
I misread it at first as "Clinton calls for Trump to concede election" - that would have been a serious level of arrogance!!
The right is now in full control of America. Their power is as absolute as you can get in a democracy. They now have to deliver. Look out for what happens when they don't. It's going to get very nasty.
Were you up for Trump?
well.. Pence.
Step forward and take PB ermine.....
You are Legend.
Popular vote Trump 48.1% Clinton 47.2%
Electoral College Trump 268 Clinton 215
http://edition.cnn.com/election
CNN reporting Hillary Clinton just conceded to Donald Trump, looks like Trump is the next US President after another bad night for most pollsters. VP elect Pence now coming up to Trump HQ to introduce Donald Trump
Foreign policy, fiscal policy, both should now be up for grabs. Neither have been good for the West during the 'Neo Con' years, the UK included. The carnage in the Middle East is a message in itself.
Hopefully, despite Trump being a terrible candidate, it will drive both parties to re-evaluate their positions and come up with some fresh thinking.
working class votes are important
Yet he has survived.
I still wouldn't say he's likely to win, but he's certainly outplayed the rivals in his own party so far.
For the record, I think his main purpose is to change the Labour party so that the leader after him (hopefully more electable) will be running on a leftist platform. But that doesn't mean he won't take any opportunity if it arises.
Here comes the man!!!
Projected for Trump
BBC news breaking
It's over