All this talk about President Trump and bomb shelters. Its Clinton who terrifies me with the neo hawk drive towards war with Russia. I'd trust The Donald to not "accidentally" provoke WWIII far more than I do the Manchurian Candidate.
Indeed. In fact, it's more likely he and Putin will accidentally push the button while they're in bed together than while they're having a confrontation.
This is the Trump who wonders out aloud why have nukes if you don't use them?
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
The one thing that might cause Brexit to be scuppered is President Trump. IMO, the idea of sticking together with a big block to keep Trump in line might suddenly seem attractive to Middle England.
Err, no.
People want safety more than anything else. That didn't matter at the time of the Referendum, because there didn't really seem to be much to be scared of in the world. That will change if we suddenly have a deranged narcissist with his hands on the nuclear codes -- people might think Mama Merkel and Papa Juncker are out of touch, bossy, arrogant, etc., but they atleast seem vaguely sane.
This is genuinely terrifying. I have lost interest in the money I am about to lose.
I think I'm going to stop being interested in politics. The last few years have just been beyond depressing. I can deal with a Conservative government, Brexit, but this? No, this is too scary, way too scary. I think I've live in a place where ignorance is bliss. I don't need to be any more involved in this.
The closest we will come to understanding how it must have felt in the 1930s.
Or at least it is as close as I want to come.
Yep, but it's more understanding how it must have felt in the the early 1940s I'm worried about.
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
No, Corbyn is guaranteed to deliver defeat to Labour.
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
Or a UKIP win if we don't get hard Brexit. However some polls did have Trump ahead, namely the LA Times and IBID TIPP, just as ICM and TNS had Leave ahead. Not all the polls were wrong, the brave ones who went against the grain were proved right it seems
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
No, Corbyn is guaranteed to deliver defeat to Labour.
Just like Trump couldn't win a GE? How we all thought he was a joke candidate intially?
I did my best and got so poo-pood I finally gave in, ditto the whole mood and attitudes I was picking up.
None so blind as those who will not see.
CNN are now talking about Hillary's concession speech Not something they expected to be doing. Wolf was talking of Trump dropping out about three hours ago.
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
There won't be a GE in 2020 as we will have a national unity government as we are at war.
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
Or a UKIP win if we don't get hard Brexit. However some polls did have Trump ahead, namely the LA Times and IBID TIPP, just as ICM and TNS had Leave ahead. Not all the polls were wrong, the brave ones who went against the grain were proved right it seems
Yes.
And Nate Silver actually wrote that he was disregarding the LATimes "because it has been an outlier all year"
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
There won't be a GE in 2020 as we will have a national unity government as we are at war.
A war where the US and Russia are on the same team. Oh dear.
How is the silly sod who put £120k on Clinton feeling, I wonder?
Every election there is somebody who puts enormous sums on an individual who loses. Somebody back in 1992 flew to the UK (betting on the US President is illegal in the US, remember?) to place an enormous bet on Pat Robertson.
Paul Krugman @paulkrugman 12m12 minutes ago The Detroit Free Press has just called Michigan for HRC. If they're right, we probably avoid the full nightmare.
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
There won't be a GE in 2020 as we will have a national unity government as we are at war.
A war where the US and Russia are on the same team. Oh dear.
Putin to be the first foreign leader to congratulate President Trump?
The American media presenters are starting to look like UK ones on the night of brexit, slowly realising the small world they exist in is not representative of the country they live in.
If the Dems hold PA + VA + CO + MI lose all the other marginals, they're on 269...
Hillary needs Arizona or Nevada, it is now still possible Hillary wins the EC but it will be very tight, the popular vote probably looks to be going for Trump if he keeps his lead once California reports (much of Texas too to report). Am still hopeful for my bet the winner of the popular vote loses the EC, so am cheering for Hillary now!
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
No, Corbyn is guaranteed to deliver defeat to Labour.
Just like Trump couldn't win a GE? How we all thought he was a joke candidate intially?
Corbyn isn't a joke candidate, he's an incapable candidate.
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
There won't be a GE in 2020 as we will have a national unity government as we are at war.
A war where the US and Russia are on the same team. Oh dear.
Putin to be the first foreign leader to congratulate President Trump?
Yes, Russia now has their stooge in the White House.
How is the silly sod who put £120k on Clinton feeling, I wonder?
Every election there is somebody who puts enormous sums on an individual who loses. Somebody back in 1992 flew to the UK (betting on the US President is illegal in the US, remember?) to place an enormous bet on Pat Robertson.
I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
No, Corbyn is guaranteed to deliver defeat to Labour.
Just like Trump couldn't win a GE? How we all thought he was a joke candidate intially?
Corbyn isn't a joke candidate, he's an incapable candidate.
Frank's been making a complete Charlie of himself on Twitter for about two or three weeks. He was making loads of fact free assertions that didn't bear any scrutiny. He's disowned the GOP now - I'm not surprised, he's been trending NeverTrump and it's become painfully obvious.
I suspect he secretly wanted Trump to lose all along - so he'd get crushed and the GOP could revert to type.
Fair point, but I need to remind you that I have a) gone out of my way to thank you for your contributions, and b) I have money on Trump (£150@10/3). Money has a way of focussing my attention...
There's surely no chance at all of Clinton winning Arizona on the basis of results so far. Pretty much zero swing in Texas so I'd be surprised if it was much different in AZ.
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I don't think we can take any of them seriously anymore.
I actually wouldn't rule out Corbyn as PM in 2020 (or whenever the GE is called) - a lot of the theory as to why he won't win is based on polls, and they, clearly are a load of shit.
Looks like she'll take Virginia, but as plenty people were saying last week ......... Michigan?
Well to you maybe. Some of us predicted Michigan for Trump days ago. Ahem....
"JackW - Chortle..."
Raw exit polling is very all over the place and has more faith in it than it should.
None so blind as those who will not see.
CNN are now talking about Hillary's concession speech
We pretty much all missed this.
After suggesting that Trump was 55% liklihood for the presidency I rowed back last week. What a fool.
If the Dems hold PA + VA + CO + MI lose all the other marginals, they're on 269...
And Nate Silver actually wrote that he was disregarding the LATimes "because it has been an outlier all year"
What's that Golden Rule?
The Beatrice Kiddo of PB. Leave your limbs behind. They belong to her...
Trump 137 ECVs
Clinton 104
The Detroit Free Press has just called Michigan for HRC. If they're right, we probably avoid the full nightmare.
Trump is winning Ohio by 10% now.
You bunch of fecking numpties. Why didn't you get anyone decent to run for the nomination?
Biden would have walked it.
Hillary Clinton = Jeremy Corbyn
Yours fraternally,
Sandy R.
Trump is holding his ground in the Milwaukee suburbs and he is advancing elsewhere.
He might win it.
Hillary's margin in Madison is down 28% from Obama.
I suspect he secretly wanted Trump to lose all along - so he'd get crushed and the GOP could revert to type.