"I'm an IT guy and her email story is implausible at best, dishonest in the middle and downright corrupt at worst.
AIUI you're a lawyer/investigator working in financial services.
How would you react if one of the senior traders at your firm was caught with company secrets / client data on their own email account? Not just a random gmail account either, but on their own server at home? When you asked them to turn it over, they produced a pile of printed out emails and had wiped the server with industrial server cleaner. Yet when questioned they say there's nothing wrong and you have everything you need to see.
What do you say about that person, when the boss asks you for a reference for their promotion? "
If one of our staff did that they would certainly be disciplined and almost certainly dismissed. But that doesn't explain the vitriol and hatred. On its own, anyway.
As for @MaxP: A good rib of beef for Xmas lunch is one of life's joys. None of this turkey/goose rubbish. Buy your beef from a proper butcher. And don't be put off by all this nonsense about how difficult it is to cook. Nonsense all of it.
Thanks for the reply. IMHO Hillary Clinton is completely unfit to be president, as she would be unfit to work at your company, let alone get a promotion.
Now Donald Trump is an idiot, and really shouldn't still be in the race. If I were American, I'd want to live in Utah so I could vote for McMullin. Failing that, I'd vote Johnson>Trump>Clinton
Kamrad Trumpcat FBI just released the "Vince Foster files". They have declared war on Criminal Hillary Clinton !!WOWZAH #PodestaEmails26 Donald Trump https://t.co/pgMPFkhOVZ
Another well timed freedom of Information request, or have lizard people taken over the FBI?
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
Trump may win. Trump may lose. But those of us who come on here for betting tips have to spend an inordinate amount of time wading through several gallons of Platonic drivel, every damned day.
Jay Sekulow We've filed a lawsuit over AG Lynch's secret meeting w/ the former President amid his wife's investigation: https://t.co/BUD2NQIvSE #JayLive
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
Trump may win. Trump may lose. But those of us who come on here for betting tips have to spend an inordinate amount of time wading through several gallons of Platonic drivel, every damned day.
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
He’s all that and more, but then I’m not voting in this election. Just sitting back gobsmacked.
Kamrad Trumpcat FBI just released the "Vince Foster files". They have declared war on Criminal Hillary Clinton !!WOWZAH #PodestaEmails26 Donald Trump https://t.co/pgMPFkhOVZ
Another well timed freedom of Information request, or have lizard people taken over the FBI?
I'm getting the distinct impression that FOIAs are getting some priority impetus.
I've read dozens of articles citing pissed off FBI agents and this looks like throwing mud back in spades against Democrats who've insulted them en masse. Hillary's team made a massive mistake trying to demonise Comey a la Ken Starr.
He's considered to be a straight arrow and it's backfired all over them.
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
I don't and you clearly do. The difference is that I don't give a rats arse what you think - but you are clearly riled (or paid) enough to try to change our views.
Clinton's obvious map: MI, WI, PA, CO, VA, & NH. Her lead in these not large, but it's consistent. 69 October polls: 68 HRC leads & 1 tie.
Grouping all the polls like that is meaningless, and lead/tie doesn't say anything about what is happening to the lead. Most likely is it's going down.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
What we think doesn;t count. Its what the US electorate thinks that's important. And what you say has been reported to the American people as fact, without the allegations ever being tested in a court of law.
Kamrad Trumpcat FBI just released the "Vince Foster files". They have declared war on Criminal Hillary Clinton !!WOWZAH #PodestaEmails26 Donald Trump https://t.co/pgMPFkhOVZ
Another well timed freedom of Information request, or have lizard people taken over the FBI?
If the FBI really had released Vince Foster files today, that would be sensational. But it isn't true. They released those files years ago.
Clinton's obvious map: MI, WI, PA, CO, VA, & NH. Her lead in these not large, but it's consistent. 69 October polls: 68 HRC leads & 1 tie.
True - at the moment 538 has Trump the favourite in 7 swing states - but still 1 short. He needs one of the above to fall AND take the rest where he is favourite. It is unlikely the polls will cause 538 to make him favourite in any over the next 6 days - but a week is a long time in politics.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
What we think doesn;t count. Its what the US electorate thinks that's important. And what you say has been reported to the American people as fact, without the allegations ever being tested in a court of law.
"I'm an IT guy and her email story is implausible at best, dishonest in the middle and downright corrupt at worst.
AIUI you're a lawyer/investigator working in financial services.
How would you react if one of the senior traders at your firm was caught with company secrets / client data on their own email account? Not just a random gmail account either, but on their own server at home? When you asked them to turn it over, they produced a pile of printed out emails and had wiped the server with industrial server cleaner. Yet when questioned they say there's nothing wrong and you have everything you need to see.
What do you say about that person, when the boss asks you for a reference for their promotion? "
If one of our staff did that they would certainly be disciplined and almost certainly dismissed. But that doesn't explain the vitriol and hatred. On its own, anyway.
As for @MaxP: A good rib of beef for Xmas lunch is one of life's joys. None of this turkey/goose rubbish. Buy your beef from a proper butcher. And don't be put off by all this nonsense about how difficult it is to cook. Nonsense all of it.
Thanks for the reply. IMHO Hillary Clinton is completely unfit to be president, as she would be unfit to work at your company, let alone get a promotion.
Now Donald Trump is an idiot, and really shouldn't still be in the race. If I were American, I'd want to live in Utah so I could vote for McMullin. Failing that, I'd vote Johnson>Trump>Clinton
If Hilary were an employee where I work she would be dismissed for breaches of procedures. Maintenance of confidentiality is very important. But that is a long way from saying that someone is a criminal. Let alone saying that someone is unfit to be President.
LBJ was a pretty corrupt politician. And yet, Vietnam aside, he has some claims to be considered a great President for what he did in relation to civil rights for blacks and his attempt to help the poor, both black and white in the US. And Nixon too had achievements to his name.
All of them. If we win on Sunday I will even change my avatar to the most reviled picture I can imagine and it's not Mark Reckless... first though bring on the German team!!
Said it before, but if Clinton loses to Trump she'll go down in history as a byword for losing from a starting place of seemingly unassailable strength.
Said it before, but if Clinton loses to Trump she'll go down in history as a byword for losing from a starting place of seemingly unassailable strength.
"She will say anything and change nothing. Hillary can't be trusted and isn't qualified to be President."
"I'm an IT guy and her email story is implausible at best, dishonest in the middle and downright corrupt at worst.
AIUI you're a lawyer/investigator working in financial services.
How would you react if one of the senior traders at your firm was caught with company secrets / client data on their own email account? Not just a random gmail account either, but on their own server at home? When you asked them to turn it over, they produced a pile of printed out emails and had wiped the server with industrial server cleaner. Yet when questioned they say there's nothing wrong and you have everything you need to see.
What do you say about that person, when the boss asks you for a reference for their promotion? "
If one of our staff did that they would certainly be disciplined and almost certainly dismissed. But that doesn't explain the vitriol and hatred. On its own, anyway.
As for @MaxP: A good rib of beef for Xmas lunch is one of life's joys. None of this turkey/goose rubbish. Buy your beef from a proper butcher. And don't be put off by all this nonsense about how difficult it is to cook. Nonsense all of it.
Thanks for the reply. IMHO Hillary Clinton is completely unfit to be president, as she would be unfit to work at your company, let alone get a promotion.
Now Donald Trump is an idiot, and really shouldn't still be in the race. If I were American, I'd want to live in Utah so I could vote for McMullin. Failing that, I'd vote Johnson>Trump>Clinton
If Hilary were an employee where I work she would be dismissed for breaches of procedures. Maintenance of confidentiality is very important. But that is a long way from saying that someone is a criminal. Let alone saying that someone is unfit to be President.
LBJ was a pretty corrupt politician. And yet, Vietnam aside, he has some claims to be considered a great President for what he did in relation to civil rights for blacks and his attempt to help the poor, both black and white in the US. And Nixon too had achievements to his name.
You forget the fact that unlike in your industry such "breaches of procedure" with government classified data are definitely illegal - and others with different surnames are currently in prison for such breaches.
You mention Nixon. He had to resign as President for deleting 18 minutes of recording. Hillary has deleted 30,000 emails and not even started yet.
I am amused by some of the comments on here today with regard to Trump. Anyone would think he is riding a crest of a wave, when in reality he has slightly improved his polling. He seems to have a ceiling he cannot pass through. Clinton on the other hand has a higher floor and higher ceiling. This is probably as good as it gets for Trump and I suspect something else will come out of the woodwork with regards to Trump over the coming days.
I am also puzzled by some British posters on this site wanting Trump to win. ODD!
"I'm an IT guy and her email story is implausible at best, dishonest in the middle and downright corrupt at worst.
AIUI you're a lawyer/investigator working in financial services.
How would you react if one of the senior traders at your firm was caught with company secrets / client data on their own email account? Not just a random gmail account either, but on their own server at home? When you asked them to turn it over, they produced a pile of printed out emails and had wiped the server with industrial server cleaner. Yet when questioned they say there's nothing wrong and you have everything you need to see.
What do you say about that person, when the boss asks you for a reference for their promotion? "
If one of our staff did that they would certainly be disciplined and almost certainly dismissed. But that doesn't explain the vitriol and hatred. On its own, anyway.
As for @MaxP: A good rib of beef for Xmas lunch is one of life's joys. None of this turkey/goose rubbish. Buy your beef from a proper butcher. And don't be put off by all this nonsense about how difficult it is to cook. Nonsense all of it.
Thanks for the reply. IMHO Hillary Clinton is completely unfit to be president, as she would be unfit to work at your company, let alone get a promotion.
Now Donald Trump is an idiot, and really shouldn't still be in the race. If I were American, I'd want to live in Utah so I could vote for McMullin. Failing that, I'd vote Johnson>Trump>Clinton
If Hilary were an employee where I work she would be dismissed for breaches of procedures. Maintenance of confidentiality is very important. But that is a long way from saying that someone is a criminal. Let alone saying that someone is unfit to be President.
LBJ was a pretty corrupt politician. And yet, Vietnam aside, he has some claims to be considered a great President for what he did in relation to civil rights for blacks and his attempt to help the poor, both black and white in the US. And Nixon too had achievements to his name.
You forget the fact that unlike in your industry such "breaches of procedure" with government classified data are definitely illegal - and others with different surnames are currently in prison for such breaches.
You mention Nixon. He had to resign as President for deleting 18 minutes of recording. Hillary has deleted 30,000 emails and not even started yet.
I think it was the fact that he deleted recordings pertaining to a criminal act - i.e. breaking into the Watergate building - that was the issue.
Lol it is brown trouser time for the spread sellers if Trump is ahead in fricking Virginia
This whole thing is insane - the pollsters are using useless D+ and Trump is still winning.
Reagan reversed his massive deficit because of two things - a late debate and Carter's failure to resolve the Iranian hostage crisis the weekend before polling.
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
I don't and you clearly do. The difference is that I don't give a rats arse what you think - but you are clearly riled (or paid) enough to try to change our views.
Why the feck would anybody pay someone in the (forlorn) hope of changing 'our' views?
I am amused by some of the comments on here today with regard to Trump. Anyone would think he is riding a crest of a wave, when in reality he has slightly improved his polling. He seems to have a ceiling he cannot pass through. Clinton on the other hand has a higher floor and higher ceiling. This is probably as good as it gets for Trump and I suspect something else will come out of the woodwork with regards to Trump over the coming days.
I am also puzzled by some British posters on this site wanting Trump to win. ODD!
Wikileaks is also apparently planning a final drop in the last few days of the campaign, which will presumably be about Hillary. Plenty more dirt on both sides of the aisle. As I have said before if I were American I would probably reluctantly vote Hillary but Trump would be better for Brexit UK having said he would do a trade deal with the UK before the EU unlike Hillary.
Hillary's average poll lead has now fallen to 1.9%, if replicated at the election that would make 2016 the 4th closest presidential election in popular vote terms since WW2. However given Hillary leads Pennsylvania by 4.9% on average, Colorado by 2.4% and Virginia by 4.7%, a Trump popular vote win is still more likely than a Trump electoral college win http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
You forget the fact that unlike in your industry such "breaches of procedure" with government classified data are definitely illegal - and others with different surnames are currently in prison for such breaches.
We've just been through all this, for heaven's sake. Is the concept of knowing anything at all about what you're talking about completely alien?
Lol it is brown trouser time for the spread sellers if Trump is ahead in fricking Virginia
This whole thing is insane - the pollsters are using useless D+ and Trump is still winning.
Reagan reversed his massive deficit because of two things - a late debate and Carter's failure to resolve the Iranian hostage crisis the weekend before polling.
This is a totally different game.
I am long Trump (and anyone who doesn't load up on the SpreadEx 250+ market for Trump is an idiot), but you do sound a bit like StuartTruth at times.
Lol it is brown trouser time for the spread sellers if Trump is ahead in fricking Virginia
This whole thing is insane - the pollsters are using useless D+ and Trump is still winning.
Reagan reversed his massive deficit because of two things - a late debate and Carter's failure to resolve the Iranian hostage crisis the weekend before polling.
This is a totally different game.
What is "insane" is your continued inability to understand party weighting in state polls. Are you willfully trying to mislead PBers?
Does this stuff matter any more? So much mud has been thrown both candidates are already covered head to toe in shite.
And surely anyone who can be swayed away from Trump will already have shifted to Clinton, from the plentiful evidence, hitherto presented, that the Donald is a nutter and a dickhead.
It's very hard to call. If there is a Brexit effect, Trump wins. But I think he'll lose by a few points.
If there is a sharp trend from Clinton to Trump in the past few days, it does matter. At least to the extent that people are beginning to forget why they disliked Trump or are starting to remember why they disliked Clinton. It would only be unimportant if the polling was steady.
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
I don't and you clearly do. The difference is that I don't give a rats arse what you think - but you are clearly riled (or paid) enough to try to change our views.
Why the feck would anybody pay someone in the (forlorn) hope of changing 'our' views?
Paid astroturfing is not a new thing. In fact if this were a UK election rather than one in which most of us have no vote we'd have already wondered if 666 was paid to post.
Due to his monomaniac single-issue style I'm still half wondering if PB.com was accidentally added to a HRC list of sites for her supporters to astroturf and 666 drew the short straw.
snip How would you react if one of the senior traders at your firm was caught with company secrets / client data on their own email account? Not just a random gmail account either, but on their own server at home? When you asked them to turn it over, they produced a pile of printed out emails and had wiped the server with industrial server cleaner. Yet when questioned they say there's nothing wrong and you have everything you need to see.
What do you say about that person, when the boss asks you for a reference for their promotion? "
If one of our staff did that they would certainly be disciplined and almost certainly dismissed. But that doesn't explain the vitriol and hatred. On its own, anyway.
As for @MaxP: A good rib of beef for Xmas lunch is one of life's joys. None of this turkey/goose rubbish. Buy your beef from a proper butcher. And don't be put off by all this nonsense about how difficult it is to cook. Nonsense all of it.
Thanks for the reply. IMHO Hillary Clinton is completely unfit to be president, as she would be unfit to work at your company, let alone get a promotion.
Now Donald Trump is an idiot, and really shouldn't still be in the race. If I were American, I'd want to live in Utah so I could vote for McMullin. Failing that, I'd vote Johnson>Trump>Clinton
If Hilary were an employee where I work she would be dismissed for breaches of procedures. Maintenance of confidentiality is very important. But that is a long way from saying that someone is a criminal. Let alone saying that someone is unfit to be President.
LBJ was a pretty corrupt politician. And yet, Vietnam aside, he has some claims to be considered a great President for what he did in relation to civil rights for blacks and his attempt to help the poor, both black and white in the US. And Nixon too had achievements to his name.
You forget the fact that unlike in your industry such "breaches of procedure" with government classified data are definitely illegal - and others with different surnames are currently in prison for such breaches.
You mention Nixon. He had to resign as President for deleting 18 minutes of recording. Hillary has deleted 30,000 emails and not even started yet.
Nixon was a boy scout in comparison to what I've read re Wikileaks. I can't get over the LalalaLand of PB 'no one cares about this'.
Yeah, right. Except the FBI and interested voters.
I can think of several dozen who'd be easily indicted already - Watergate had 43.
I honestly suspect many PBers are in so much denial that they're missing witnessing an enormous scandal - I'm agog at it.
Mr. T, sorry to hear of your friend. As you say, it's tragic (worsened by the failed surgery).
I'm trying to console her, but, really, what can you say? What can you possibly say that might comfort?
Horrible.
There have been big breakthroughs in stem cell regeneration of the nervous system so hopefully they can be applied for you friend in the near future and she can regain her ability to walk. Not that I'd say that to her and get her hopes up. The best thing you can do is listen to her.
Maybe give it a read, and if it seems it might help, point her to it [the story's written by the severely disabled daughter of Mark Lawrence, the Prince of Thorns author].
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
I don't and you clearly do. The difference is that I don't give a rats arse what you think - but you are clearly riled (or paid) enough to try to change our views.
Why the feck would anybody pay someone in the (forlorn) hope of changing 'our' views?
Paid astroturfing is not a new thing. In fact if this were a UK election rather than one in which most of us have no vote we'd have already wondered if 666 was paid to post.
Due to his monomaniac single-issue style I'm still half wondering if PB.com was accidentally added to a HRC list of sites for her supporters to astroturf and 666 drew the short straw.
Presumably by that rationale Plato is on $100 a hour from the Tea Party.
Lol it is brown trouser time for the spread sellers if Trump is ahead in fricking Virginia
This whole thing is insane - the pollsters are using useless D+ and Trump is still winning.
Reagan reversed his massive deficit because of two things - a late debate and Carter's failure to resolve the Iranian hostage crisis the weekend before polling.
This is a totally different game.
I am long Trump (and anyone who doesn't load up on the SpreadEx 250+ market for Trump is an idiot), but you do sound a bit like StuartTruth at times.
Lol it is brown trouser time for the spread sellers if Trump is ahead in fricking Virginia
This whole thing is insane - the pollsters are using useless D+ and Trump is still winning.
Reagan reversed his massive deficit because of two things - a late debate and Carter's failure to resolve the Iranian hostage crisis the weekend before polling.
This is a totally different game.
What is "insane" is your continued inability to understand party weighting in state polls. Are you willfully trying to mislead PBers?
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
I don't and you clearly do. The difference is that I don't give a rats arse what you think - but you are clearly riled (or paid) enough to try to change our views.
Why the feck would anybody pay someone in the (forlorn) hope of changing 'our' views?
Paid astroturfing is not a new thing. In fact if this were a UK election rather than one in which most of us have no vote we'd have already wondered if 666 was paid to post.
Due to his monomaniac single-issue style I'm still half wondering if PB.com was accidentally added to a HRC list of sites for her supporters to astroturf and 666 drew the short straw.
Presumably by that rationale Plato is on $100 a hour from the Tea Party.
Paid in USD, no wonder she was never bothered by Brexit.
Plato is like a shark scenting blood tonight. Her Trumpomatic spin machine has gone turbo.
In fairness, when leaders are campaigning in areas that are meant to either be givens or dead losses for them, it's reasonable to raise an eyebrow.
Indeed - I think Trump has had every phobe and ism chucked at him over the past year and yet, hear we are with the polling neck and neck less than a week out from voting.
so you dont think he is a racist prick who gropes women without permission?
I don't and you clearly do. The difference is that I don't give a rats arse what you think - but you are clearly riled (or paid) enough to try to change our views.
Why the feck would anybody pay someone in the (forlorn) hope of changing 'our' views?
Paid astroturfing is not a new thing. In fact if this were a UK election rather than one in which most of us have no vote we'd have already wondered if 666 was paid to post.
Due to his monomaniac single-issue style I'm still half wondering if PB.com was accidentally added to a HRC list of sites for her supporters to astroturf and 666 drew the short straw.
Presumably by that rationale Plato is on $100 a hour from the Tea Party.
Paid in USD, no wonder she was never bothered by Brexit.
Somewhat off-topic, I heard today that a friend of mine, a 19 year old student, fun, bubbly, pretty, smart, has been in a car crash.
She was exiting a car park and the woman in front of her braked without warning. The crash was quite nasty. The operation on my friend's legs, damaged in the impact, then went wrong, and she is now in a wheelchair, and has been told there's a reasonable chance she will never walk again.
From the breezy optimism of a happy young student, to a life in a wheelchair. In a few seconds. And not even her fault. 19 years old.
Eat, drink and be merry, my pb pals, for life is short, and also cruel.
A terrible story Sean, and my best sympathies and wishes. Life is indeed short and unpredictable.
@Plato on Nixon. Rather than spouting spam, lies and prejudices (although it's good to see that you've moved on Muslims) read some real histories on Nixon. You'll like Black but not Reston. Then you might have an opinion worth listening to.
In which the author advocates the (entirely reasonable) notion that the polls in the run-up to the EU referendum weren't so very wide of the mark, and that the heavy assumption of a narrow Remain victory was mostly the product of bias, whether conscious or otherwise, amongst the analysts, who mainly belonged to a social group that found a Brexit outcome almost unthinkable. Though to be fair, I think that a lot of people have learned their lessons from this event and aren't treating a Clinton victory as quite the done deal.
In which we are reminded that turnout in elections is a complex beast. The analysis of the many possible implications of high early voting levels in North Carolina is particularly interesting.
Lol it is brown trouser time for the spread sellers if Trump is ahead in fricking Virginia
This whole thing is insane - the pollsters are using useless D+ and Trump is still winning.
Reagan reversed his massive deficit because of two things - a late debate and Carter's failure to resolve the Iranian hostage crisis the weekend before polling.
This is a totally different game.
I am long Trump (and anyone who doesn't load up on the SpreadEx 250+ market for Trump is an idiot), but you do sound a bit like StuartTruth at times.
So, I should post things you agree with instead - rather than the Trump community I watch and read?
What an odd view. I've immersed myself in this movement to provide some insight - it's fascinating. Still, poo poo it if that suits.
Also, there's an 8% chance of a recount in a state that decides the Electoral College.
Very unlikely that FL decides the college.
Indeed, Florida is currently just under 1% tighter than Hillary's RCP average national poll lead on that Quinnipiac poll (though RCP has Trump 0.7% ahead in Florida on average), Trump could win Florida and lose the popular vote, just. However he could win the popular vote based on the RCP average, where Hillary leads by 1.9%, and still lose Pennsylvania, where Hillary leads by 4.9% with RCP and Colorado where she leads by 2.4% and the electoral college
Now surely EVERYONE can agree that one is worth Plato re-posting?
I take the hate as a compliment - if it didn't threaten them, they'd not bother.
It's all most entertaining. What sort of small dick wanker can't take Unsafe Space stuff?
"You know, if you just set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything, wouldn't you, at any time? And you would achieve nothing!" - M. H. Thatcher, interview 3/5/1989
Thanks for the reply. IMHO Hillary Clinton is completely unfit to be president, as she would be unfit to work at your company, let alone get a promotion.
Now Donald Trump is an idiot, and really shouldn't still be in the race. If I were American, I'd want to live in Utah so I could vote for McMullin. Failing that, I'd vote Johnson>Trump>Clinton
If Hilary were an employee where I work she would be dismissed for breaches of procedures. Maintenance of confidentiality is very important. But that is a long way from saying that someone is a criminal. Let alone saying that someone is unfit to be President.
LBJ was a pretty corrupt politician. And yet, Vietnam aside, he has some claims to be considered a great President for what he did in relation to civil rights for blacks and his attempt to help the poor, both black and white in the US. And Nixon too had achievements to his name.
You forget the fact that unlike in your industry such "breaches of procedure" with government classified data are definitely illegal - and others with different surnames are currently in prison for such breaches.
You mention Nixon. He had to resign as President for deleting 18 minutes of recording. Hillary has deleted 30,000 emails and not even started yet.
I think it was the fact that he deleted recordings pertaining to a criminal act - i.e. breaking into the Watergate building - that was the issue.
The issue with Nixon was, as the late Senator Rayburn put it, what did the President know about the burglary and when did he know it. As it turned out he knew a great deal more about it than he first claimed and much sooner than he claimed. It was the lies he told in relation to this which did for him in the end and the fact that throughout the investigation he sought to expand the President's executive privilege and interfere with the work of independent counsel. He was abusing the powers of the office and seemed to have little regard for the proper separation of powers between the executive and the judiciary.
Now I'm not a US criminal lawyer so don't know whether what Clinton is alleged to have done is or is not a criminal act. But she has not been charged and this latest brouhaha arises from the FBI saying that they have found material which is potentially relevant to their investigation. Finding potentially relevant material is a long way from a charge, let alone conviction as a criminal, a point which appears to be lost on some posters.
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Now Donald Trump is an idiot, and really shouldn't still be in the race. If I were American, I'd want to live in Utah so I could vote for McMullin. Failing that, I'd vote Johnson>Trump>Clinton
1. There's a good reason Gallup aren't polling in this election
2. The latest figures for PA are Dem 4.062M and GOP 3,126M
http://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/Documents/2016 Election VR Stats.pdf
MULawPoll – @MULawPoll
On Weds and Thurs, 47% favored Clinton, 36% Trump. On Fri, Trump 48%, Clinton 40%. Sat-Mon, Clinton 46%, Trump 40%. #mulawpoll
I now wonder if Hillary is Cameron 2015, and she will outperform her polling.
We've filed a lawsuit over AG Lynch's secret meeting w/ the former President amid his wife's investigation: https://t.co/BUD2NQIvSE #JayLive
P.S. It is bloody freezing down here. Cold winter on its way.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/37841365
I've read dozens of articles citing pissed off FBI agents and this looks like throwing mud back in spades against Democrats who've insulted them en masse. Hillary's team made a massive mistake trying to demonise Comey a la Ken Starr.
He's considered to be a straight arrow and it's backfired all over them.
The difference is that I don't give a rats arse what you think - but you are clearly riled (or paid) enough to try to change our views.
What we think doesn;t count. Its what the US electorate thinks that's important. And what you say has been reported to the American people as fact, without the allegations ever being tested in a court of law.
Clinton 43 .. Trump 40
https://luc.id/2016-presidential-tracker/
The dems are panicking.
Deplorable Lynn
Donald Trump Protester Speaks Out: “I Was Paid $3,500 To Protest Trump’s Rally” https://t.co/W3Af74pd2O via @ABC News
LBJ was a pretty corrupt politician. And yet, Vietnam aside, he has some claims to be considered a great President for what he did in relation to civil rights for blacks and his attempt to help the poor, both black and white in the US. And Nixon too had achievements to his name.
https://twitter.com/LisaBloom/status/793880513018785792
Micro Spooky Leaks
Loretta Lynch represented the Clinton's during the White Water scandal https://t.co/yx9Pv6XgW0
Each candidate won Florida exactly 5,000 times in our 10,000 simulations just now. https://t.co/WLXtJovjYd https://t.co/e9IN5Etnnj
Also, there's an 8% chance of a recount in a state that decides the Electoral College.
Senator Barack Obama, 2008
Bill Mitchell
Trump now leads the CPP Poll in VA by 3 that he previously trailed by 12. Wowsers!
https://t.co/mtYTJUwA6t
If it was a police matter, it would certainly count big time. It isn't.
You mention Nixon. He had to resign as President for deleting 18 minutes of recording. Hillary has deleted 30,000 emails and not even started yet.
I am also puzzled by some British posters on this site wanting Trump to win. ODD!
Reagan reversed his massive deficit because of two things - a late debate and Carter's failure to resolve the Iranian hostage crisis the weekend before polling.
This is a totally different game.
Hillary's average poll lead has now fallen to 1.9%, if replicated at the election that would make 2016 the 4th closest presidential election in popular vote terms since WW2. However given Hillary leads Pennsylvania by 4.9% on average, Colorado by 2.4% and Virginia by 4.7%, a Trump popular vote win is still more likely than a Trump electoral college win
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Plenty of evidence on this website to back this up.
Due to his monomaniac single-issue style I'm still half wondering if PB.com was accidentally added to a HRC list of sites for her supporters to astroturf and 666 drew the short straw.
Yeah, right. Except the FBI and interested voters.
I can think of several dozen who'd be easily indicted already - Watergate had 43.
I honestly suspect many PBers are in so much denial that they're missing witnessing an enormous scandal - I'm agog at it.
After some searching, found this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wheel-Mouse-vs-All-Crazy-Robots-ebook/dp/B0087D3H34/
Maybe give it a read, and if it seems it might help, point her to it [the story's written by the severely disabled daughter of Mark Lawrence, the Prince of Thorns author].
I have no doubt you're doing the best possible job. Good luck.
If any Carthaginians want to pay me for my historical posts, I accept bribes.
You just ignore us when we do.
It's all most entertaining. What sort of small dick wanker can't take Unsafe Space stuff?
Indeed. Amid the torrent of utter drivel there is the odd gem. The stopped clock principle applies here.
FL: Clinton 46—Trump 45
NC: Clinton 47—Trump 44
OH: Trump 46—Clinton 41
PA: Clinton 48—Trump 43
Very unlikely that FL decides the college.
1. Brexit Surprise Due to Analysts' Bias, Not Numbers
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/11/01/brexit_surprise_due_to_analysts_bias_not_numbers.html
In which the author advocates the (entirely reasonable) notion that the polls in the run-up to the EU referendum weren't so very wide of the mark, and that the heavy assumption of a narrow Remain victory was mostly the product of bias, whether conscious or otherwise, amongst the analysts, who mainly belonged to a social group that found a Brexit outcome almost unthinkable. Though to be fair, I think that a lot of people have learned their lessons from this event and aren't treating a Clinton victory as quite the done deal.
2. Early Voting a Poor Predictor of Final Results
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/11/02/early_voting_a_poor_predictor_of_final_results.html
In which we are reminded that turnout in elections is a complex beast. The analysis of the many possible implications of high early voting levels in North Carolina is particularly interesting.
What an odd view. I've immersed myself in this movement to provide some insight - it's fascinating. Still, poo poo it if that suits.
Early Voting exit poll figures from same surveys. Awful for Trump. Absolutely awful.
FL
Clinton 48
Trump 42
NC
Clinton 58
Trump 36
OH
Clinton 58
Trump 32
If those figures are anywhere near right, get Clinton 300+ covered before the bookies hear of it.
FL - Clinton 47 .. Trump 45 .. 626
NC - Clinton 48 .. Trump 45 .. 602
OH - Clinton 44 .. Trump 47 .. 589
PA - Clinton 50 .. Trump 44 .. 612
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Quinnipiac.NOV.2.SWING.1.pdf
- M. H. Thatcher, interview 3/5/1989
Now I'm not a US criminal lawyer so don't know whether what Clinton is alleged to have done is or is not a criminal act. But she has not been charged and this latest brouhaha arises from the FBI saying that they have found material which is potentially relevant to their investigation. Finding potentially relevant material is a long way from a charge, let alone conviction as a criminal, a point which appears to be lost on some posters.