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  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118

    tyson said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    The stupid moron can be identified by his house, and cars.

    Let's hope we get the Justice for Cecil brigade changing target and running him out of his neighbourhood
    tyson said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    The stupid moron can be identified by his house, and cars.

    Let's hope we get the Justice for Cecil brigade changing target and running him out of his neighbourhood
    Tyson wants to organize a lynch mob. Appalling.
    To be fair, the Trumpster started it!
    Tyson wants to be Trump, apparently. It is exactly the kind of thing Trump would (and has said).
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,753
    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
  • tyson said:

    tyson said:

    Reading that article TSE makes me glad that I chose economics over law at Uni.... FFS..you have to have a very strange kind of brain to be a lawyer....

    To be a lawyer, you don't just need a strange brain, most important is the lack of heart and morals.
    Very good, and very quick TSE....

    FWIW I love your little "ooh erghhh Madame" pun/innuendos in your articles....keep them coming
    They are just too damn subtle for most PBers
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Ask current Labour voters that question on Tony Blair and lets see the answers:-)
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118
    GeoffM said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    Why? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's "inciting" someone to do something. What do you think they are "inciting" anyway?
    Pretty sure that it is a civil rights violation under the laws against burning crosses etc. Would need a US lawyer to be sure.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,120
    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Are you serious?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,407
    edited October 2016
    I'm calling this a rogue poll.

    Clinton leads Trump by 4 points in ALASKA. FOOKING ALASKA

    http://origin-nyi.thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303477-poll-clinton-up-4-points-in-alaska
  • weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.

    You might want to check out the far right and violence in the US, as well as the violence of groups around organisations like Black Lives Matter. Race is incendiary in the US to a degree almost unimaginable here. A racist in the White House would embolden and enrage and would lead to mayhem.

  • Chris said:

    GeoffM said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    Why? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's "inciting" someone to do something. What do you think they are "inciting" anyway?
    Astonishing the things some people will defend.
    I bet it's against their homeowners' association rules.
  • weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118
    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
  • Huzzah, The FT are reporting Mark Carney is going to serve his full eight year term

    https://www.ft.com/content/5107a124-9eb5-11e6-891e-abe238dee8e2
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 73,011
    Some context for Comey's actions:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/james-comey-is-damaging-our-democracy/2016/10/29/894d0f5e-9e49-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html

    Decades ago, the department decided that in the 60-day period before an election, the balance should be struck against even returning indictments involving individuals running for office, as well as against the disclosure of any investigative steps. The reasoning was that, however important it might be for Justice to do its job, and however important it might be for the public to know what Justice knows, because such allegations could not be adjudicated, such actions or disclosures risked undermining the political process. A memorandum reflecting this choice has been issued every four years by multiple attorneys general for a very long time, including in 2016...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,913

    Huzzah, The FT are reporting Mark Carney is going to serve his full eight year term

    With no parole?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,296

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    That looks like one of those really fair and even and equal laws ... which in reality turns out to only work for certain approved groups.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716

    I'm calling this a rogue poll.

    Clinton leads Trump by 4 points in ALASKA. FOOKING ALASKA

    http://origin-nyi.thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303477-poll-clinton-up-4-points-in-alaska

    Pre emailgate, Trump had a small lead in Alaska earlier this month
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ak/alaska_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6114.html
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    RobD said:
    When 40% of trump supporters think Hillary is an actual demon, I that it might be.
  • Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Doesn't look like the police consider it a crime, from previous reports:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/27/nyregion/27noose.html
  • alex. said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
    The First Amendment outranks the Civil Rights Act.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,716
    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Indeed, the Trump camp is searching for that homeless woman as they want to give her a reward
    https://twitter.com/SoCal4Trump/status/792196786542620672?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,407
    edited October 2016
    tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
  • nielhnielh Posts: 1,307
    edited October 2016
    Dixie said:

    tyson said:


    Virtually no Remainers voted Cameron to give him 'a kick up the arse', LDs and middle class Labour voters overwhelmingly backed Remain. Those who may have done so were white working class Labour voters who had no love for the EU anyway

    @HYFUD Did you read much of the fallout from Brexit? Many traditional labour voters never knew the position their party held..... that was the reason why 60 shadow cabinet members walked out on Corbyn. Many Tories who voted Brexit didn't realise they were effectively signing a death warrant for Cameron whom they liked.
    Cameron's ratings slumped badly in the referendum and he fell well below Boris's ratings, so the vast majority of the voters were not respecting him and would therefore be tempted to give him a kicking.
    I voted remain despite being dismayed by the direction Cameron's government had started to follow. I think the Coalition government was much better than the Conservative Majority government. Cameron claimed he was a one nation tory yet did things that proved he was not one nation at all. Despite my initial scepticism of May she on domestic policy is far more one nation than Cameron ever proved. I kicked Cameron up the arse by voting Labour at the local elections for the first time in my life: it was a protest vote.
    The policies that the Cameron majority government were enacting were indefensible from almost any rational viewpoint and almost insane. In one foul swoop they destroyed the entire basis of social housing with the 'housing and planning act' and they were trying to do the same thing to the public sector education system. Due to the time lag behind the development of policy and its real life effects and the spin and misinformation and absence of an opposition, people simply didn't recognise what was happening. In some ways Brexit is a relief, because it kicked these people out of government.




  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,783
    GeoffM said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    That looks like one of those really fair and even and equal laws ... which in reality turns out to only work for certain approved groups.
    Yes - groups under threat of being injured or intimidated. Are you so absolutely ignorant that you don't know why the Civil Rights Act was passed in the 1960s?

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I like the way that 2 % of Hillary supporters tbink she is an actual demon, but will vote for her anyway.

    Satanists for Hillary? Or Amageddon wishers for Hillary?

    Gotta love the public!
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,753

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Looking through it, the intimidation has to be intended to stop someone going to work, from voting, attending school, serving on a jury etc. So, KKK men standing outside a polling station, holding nooses, in order to intimidate black voters, would be caught by the Act. I doubt if this would be.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Looking through it, the intimidation has to be intended to stop someone going to work, from voting, attending school, serving on a jury etc. So, KKK men standing outside a polling station, holding nooses, in order to intimidate black voters, would be caught by the Act. I doubt if this would be.
    I'm pretty sure it has been used in the context of threatening symbology to intimidate black people from going through a neighbourhood.
  • I love Sebastian Vettel and Verstappen is an arse and we're about to have fun on the podium
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
    Good Lord! Do you mean to say that they were expressing ignorance of the Second Punic war? It makes me ashamed to be English...
  • tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
    Good Lord! Do you mean to say that they were expressing ignorance of the Second Punic war? It makes me ashamed to be English...
    Apparently St George was an Englishman and would hate all this immigration from the Middle East
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Huzzah, The FT are reporting Mark Carney is going to serve his full eight year term

    https://www.ft.com/content/5107a124-9eb5-11e6-891e-abe238dee8e2


    Are his crimes so serious he cannot get early release?

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,591
    To anyone who didn't watch the Grand Prix, the highlights will be well worth it!
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited October 2016
    Omfg

    https://twitter.com/liamstack/status/792599532680966144

    Although that said I went to a really good coffee shop when I was in Salt Lake City.

    Edit: I see Trump leaning super hard on SCOTUS.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited October 2016

    alex. said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
    The First Amendment outranks the Civil Rights Act.
    I would have thought the difference legally between burning crosses and this "Halloween" noose is that a burning cross is intimidation put on a victims land to threaten them and therefore is unprotected by the first amendment. This however disgusting is free speech on the racists own land.

    If someone was to put a burning cross on their own front garden would that be illegal?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,591
    edited October 2016

    I love Sebastian Vettel and Verstappen is an arse and we're about to have fun on the podium

    First time I remember that happening between the race finish and the podium, since Senna and Prost in 1989.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,062
    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Weiner e-mail server reported to have 650,000 e-mails on it with possibly thousands coming from HRC.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/laptop-may-include-thousands-of-emails-linked-to-hillary-clintons-private-server-1477854957

    Weren't we told on here yesterday that none were to/from Clinton? :p
    Weiner is obviously 'co-operating'. He lost his career, his reputation and his wife/ partner - what else does he have to live for?
    His photography.....
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979


    The policies that the Cameron majority government were enacting were indefensible from almost any rational viewpoint and almost insane. In one foul swoop they destroyed the entire basis of social housing with the 'housing and planning act' and they were trying to do the same thing to the public sector education system. Due to the time lag behind the development of policy and its real life effects and the spin and misinformation and absence of an opposition, people simply didn't recognise what was happening. In some ways Brexit is a relief, because it kicked these people out of government.


    I completely agree with you. I think that Cameron will go down in history very negatively indeed. He is as cynical as they come.

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 73,011
    Sandpit said:

    To anyone who didn't watch the Grand Prix, the highlights will be well worth it!

    True 'highlights' would be a pretty short program - but certainly worth waiting for Vettel's comments to Whiting.
  • alex. said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
    The First Amendment outranks the Civil Rights Act.
    I would have thought the difference legally between burning crosses and this "Halloween" noose is that a burning cross is intimidation put on a victims land to threaten them and therefore is unprotected by the first amendment. This however disgusting is free speech on the racists own land.

    If someone was to put a burning cross on their own front garden would that be illegal?
    I can find lots of reports online in the last ten years of black or black-looking mannequins being "lynched" but none suggesting a police response.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
    Good Lord! Do you mean to say that they were expressing ignorance of the Second Punic war? It makes me ashamed to be English...
    Apparently St George was an Englishman and would hate all this immigration from the Middle East
    Of course! If he were foreign then he wouldn't have an English name and flag. The EDL do have a point.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,591
    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    To anyone who didn't watch the Grand Prix, the highlights will be well worth it!

    True 'highlights' would be a pretty short program - but certainly worth waiting for Vettel's comments to Whiting.
    He will be in a lot of trouble for those comments. There are some things that can never be said, even in the heat of the moment.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,927
    weejonnie said:

    Weiner e-mail server reported to have 650,000 e-mails on it with possibly thousands coming from HRC.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/laptop-may-include-thousands-of-emails-linked-to-hillary-clintons-private-server-1477854957

    That's like 1,000 emails a day.

    Presumably quite a few of them are about Weiner enlargement.

    I'll get my coat...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,913
    rcs1000 said:

    weejonnie said:

    Weiner e-mail server reported to have 650,000 e-mails on it with possibly thousands coming from HRC.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/laptop-may-include-thousands-of-emails-linked-to-hillary-clintons-private-server-1477854957

    That's like 1,000 emails a day.

    Presumably quite a few of them are about Weiner enlargement.

    I'll get my coat...
    Electoral dysfunction is a major issue for over-the-hill candidates.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118

    alex. said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
    The First Amendment outranks the Civil Rights Act.
    I would have thought the difference legally between burning crosses and this "Halloween" noose is that a burning cross is intimidation put on a victims land to threaten them and therefore is unprotected by the first amendment. This however disgusting is free speech on the racists own land.

    If someone was to put a burning cross on their own front garden would that be illegal?
    I can find lots of reports online in the last ten years of black or black-looking mannequins being "lynched" but none suggesting a police response.
    Cross burning is banned - yes, even on your own land - generally at state level.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 73,011
    Sandpit said:

    Nigelb said:

    Sandpit said:

    To anyone who didn't watch the Grand Prix, the highlights will be well worth it!

    True 'highlights' would be a pretty short program - but certainly worth waiting for Vettel's comments to Whiting.
    He will be in a lot of trouble for those comments. There are some things that can never be said, even in the heat of the moment.
    Quite possibly - though I've made similar comments myself from time to time.
    :-)
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    edited October 2016
    That tweet reminds me there was a 15 year old black boy a couple weeks ago that had a noose tied round his neck in a Mississippi school by a group of white schoolmates. America has come a long way but has a way to go.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118

    tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
    Good Lord! Do you mean to say that they were expressing ignorance of the Second Punic war? It makes me ashamed to be English...
    Apparently St George was an Englishman and would hate all this immigration from the Middle East
    Of course! If he were foreign then he wouldn't have an English name and flag. The EDL do have a point.
    Fictional furiners coming here, killing endangered species (have you seen any dragons) - bet he didn't have a work permit for dragon slaying either. And disposing of the corpse afterwards.. no mention of the paperwork that getting rid of a multi ton animal corpse generates... so illegal disposal of waste as well.

    Last one is best - he wasn't wearing HiViz.

    Throw the book at him, I say
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    edited October 2016

    tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
    Good Lord! Do you mean to say that they were expressing ignorance of the Second Punic war? It makes me ashamed to be English...
    Apparently St George was an Englishman and would hate all this immigration from the Middle East
    Of course! If he were foreign then he wouldn't have an English name and flag. The EDL do have a point.
    Fictional furiners coming here, killing endangered species (have you seen any dragons) - bet he didn't have a work permit for dragon slaying either. And disposing of the corpse afterwards.. no mention of the paperwork that getting rid of a multi ton animal corpse generates... so illegal disposal of waste as well.

    Last one is best - he wasn't wearing HiViz.

    Throw the book at him, I say

    A suit of armour is fairly hi viz.

    And the book would bounce off it...

  • tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    Carnage from whom? The Democrats most likely based on the fact that the left rioted after the 2010 election with no pretext to do so and constantly arranged demonstrations that usually turned violent.

    It's funny but the right in countries don't seem to demonstrate violently - the last major ';right-wing' demonstration - the Countryside Alliance - even left people behind to tidy up.

    Similarly when the EDL or whoever hold a march it always seems to be the left (UAF or the equivalent) who get arrested for violence.

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
    Good Lord! Do you mean to say that they were expressing ignorance of the Second Punic war? It makes me ashamed to be English...
    Apparently St George was an Englishman and would hate all this immigration from the Middle East
    Of course! If he were foreign then he wouldn't have an English name and flag. The EDL do have a point.
    Fictional furiners coming here, killing endangered species (have you seen any dragons) - bet he didn't have a work permit for dragon slaying either. And disposing of the corpse afterwards.. no mention of the paperwork that getting rid of a multi ton animal corpse generates... so illegal disposal of waste as well.

    Last one is best - he wasn't wearing HiViz.

    Throw the book at him, I say
    Like
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,120
    @TSE...I think your response earlier was being kind to pigshit. If I was pigshit, I probably would cry foul being compared so unfavourably to such a ludicrous comment...
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,753

    alex. said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
    The First Amendment outranks the Civil Rights Act.
    I would have thought the difference legally between burning crosses and this "Halloween" noose is that a burning cross is intimidation put on a victims land to threaten them and therefore is unprotected by the first amendment. This however disgusting is free speech on the racists own land.

    If someone was to put a burning cross on their own front garden would that be illegal?
    I can find lots of reports online in the last ten years of black or black-looking mannequins being "lynched" but none suggesting a police response.
    Cross burning is banned - yes, even on your own land - generally at state level.
    SCOTUS ruled in 2003 that it's lawful to ban cross-burning which is intended to intimidate, but not otherwise. To remove this mannequin, I presume the authorities would have to prove an intent to intimidate.
  • Scott_P said:
    It's almost as if we are going to end up spending a shed load more than £350 million a week on mitigating the voluntary decision we are going to take to leave the single market.

  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Another xenophobic, racist I suppose?

    The Australian Prime Minister has said that asylum seekers who try to sneak into Australia by boat will never be able to enter the country again - even as a tourist. The federal government is set to ban illegal immigrants under new legislation and will only bend the rules if it is in the public interest.

    The ban would apply whether or not they were found to be refugees and extends to all types of visas, including tourist and business categories.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3887316/Is-answer-Calais-migrants-Australian-PM-says-caught-sneaking-country-NEVER-allowed-tourist.html#ixzz4ObbiQ0wV
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118

    tlg86 said:

    weejonnie said:

    When people say it would be funny if Trump won, just look at that photo. It would be a disaster. It would unleash carnage.

    :

    In Amercia I can point you to a Republican office being torched and a frail homeless woman being beaten up for preventing Trump's 'star' from being damaged again.
    Christ you're a thick as pigshit.

    I once accidentally attended an EDL march in 2009, trust me, the violence was all one way.

    Have a look at yourself you Trump ramper, defending the EDL, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    You accidentally attended an EDL rally? Is that a bit like accidentally ending up watching hardcore pornography on the internet?
    It was in the centre of Manchester, I turned up at Piccadilly station, find out the taxis and trams were out of commission and I'd have to walk to my hotel on the other side of town.

    The EDL were having their demo in Piccadilly Gardens which was on the route/right next door to Piccadilly station.

    As an Asian chap with a white English girlfriend, for some reason I really annoyed them.

    Plus their appalling lack of historical knowledge needed a rebuttal.
    Good Lord! Do you mean to say that they were expressing ignorance of the Second Punic war? It makes me ashamed to be English...
    Apparently St George was an Englishman and would hate all this immigration from the Middle East
    Of course! If he were foreign then he wouldn't have an English name and flag. The EDL do have a point.
    Fictional furiners coming here, killing endangered species (have you seen any dragons) - bet he didn't have a work permit for dragon slaying either. And disposing of the corpse afterwards.. no mention of the paperwork that getting rid of a multi ton animal corpse generates... so illegal disposal of waste as well.

    Last one is best - he wasn't wearing HiViz.

    Throw the book at him, I say

    A suit of armour is fairly hi viz.

    And the book would bounce off it...

    In real life, most armour was given a dull finish. The polished plate look was for show offs, and was extremely unpopular among their servants - mild steel basically, rusts if you look at it - they would have to polish it non stop.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Sean_F said:

    alex. said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
    The First Amendment outranks the Civil Rights Act.
    I would have thought the difference legally between burning crosses and this "Halloween" noose is that a burning cross is intimidation put on a victims land to threaten them and therefore is unprotected by the first amendment. This however disgusting is free speech on the racists own land.

    If someone was to put a burning cross on their own front garden would that be illegal?
    I can find lots of reports online in the last ten years of black or black-looking mannequins being "lynched" but none suggesting a police response.
    Cross burning is banned - yes, even on your own land - generally at state level.
    SCOTUS ruled in 2003 that it's lawful to ban cross-burning which is intended to intimidate, but not otherwise. To remove this mannequin, I presume the authorities would have to prove an intent to intimidate.

    I don't know why people are complaining about this guy. Surely Lefties should be trying to understand why he did it? Or why it's all someone else's fault? Or perhaps a Celeb could go and apologise to him on behalf of the human race?

    /sarcasm

  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838
    The more I've thought about this the more I've come to the conclusion that the main object of the Comey intervention is not Trump, but the SCOTUS.

    Those senate races are much closer, much more critical to the big picture of movement republicans than 4 years of the presidency.

    They decide the shape of the Court.

  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,838
    Never too far from controversy, Lucy Allan.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024

    The more I've thought about this the more I've come to the conclusion that the main object of the Comey intervention is not Trump, but the SCOTUS.

    Those senate races are much closer, much more critical to the big picture of movement republicans than 4 years of the presidency.

    They decide the shape of the Court.

    Yes that is exactly what is going on, expect Clinton will be elected with a GOP senate.
  • ho hum...
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,782
    The rules don't apply if you're rich... :(
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    viewcode said:

    The rules don't apply if you're rich... :(
    Yes - you can leave your kids alone in a pub when you go off home for instance.
  • Lucy Allan MP has a huge amount of baggage from her past. She certainly has "issues".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Allan_(politician)
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,782
    weejonnie said:

    viewcode said:

    The rules don't apply if you're rich... :(
    Yes - you can leave your kids alone in a pub when you go off home for instance.
    :)
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    nunu said:

    RobD said:
    When 40% of trump supporters think Hillary is an actual demon, I that it might be.
    More amusing are the 2% of Clinton supporters who gjinl she is an actual demon. ..
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited October 2016
    Edit: Already been posted.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    alex. said:

    Sean_F said:

    Floater said:

    On Saturday at a University American football match a chap went dressed up as Barack Obama wearing a noose.
    That picture is appalling.

    Can he be charged with incitement?
    That would depend on local laws. And, given that US Courts have upheld the right of God Hates Fags to demonstrate at funerals, he might not be in violation of the law.
    Found it....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

    made it a federal crime to “by force or by threat of force, injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone … by reason of their race, color, religion, or national origin.”

    I believe this has been used against cross burning etc...
    Surely Trump has been repeatedly breaching this law in his campaign speeches?
    The First Amendment outranks the Civil Rights Act.
    I would have thought the difference legally between burning crosses and this "Halloween" noose is that a burning cross is intimidation put on a victims land to threaten them and therefore is unprotected by the first amendment. This however disgusting is free speech on the racists own land.

    If someone was to put a burning cross on their own front garden would that be illegal?
    I can find lots of reports online in the last ten years of black or black-looking mannequins being "lynched" but none suggesting a police response.
    I mean no one in this country would be prepared to make mannequinns of, say, a Roman Catholic, and throw them on bonfires.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,985
    MP_SE said:

    Trump was right to say Weiner was a "collector of information". That is a staggering number of emails. Altough I wouldn't be surprised if a significant number of them related to social media, dating and adult websites.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/792813717624856576

    And someone said earlier they'd get through them in a few days ... :)
  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited October 2016
    Charles said:

    nunu said:

    RobD said:
    When 40% of trump supporters think Hillary is an actual demon, I that it might be.
    More amusing are the 2% of Clinton supporters who gjinl she is an actual demon. ..
    Or the 9% who aren't sure but will support her anyway.
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    Scott_P said:
    It's almost as if we are going to end up spending a shed load more than £350 million a week on mitigating the voluntary decision we are going to take to leave the single market.

    Yes, special measures for, er, pretty much everyone. The entire project undermined by a series of expensive exceptions. Who could have imagined it?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,913

    Charles said:

    nunu said:

    RobD said:
    When 40% of trump supporters think Hillary is an actual demon, I that it might be.
    More amusing are the 2% of Clinton supporters who gjinl she is an actual demon. ..
    Or the 9% who aren't sure but will support her anyway.
    Perhaps some of them misheard and think she's an 'actuarial demon' - "How she's still going, I don't know!"
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,118

    Charles said:

    nunu said:

    RobD said:
    When 40% of trump supporters think Hillary is an actual demon, I that it might be.
    More amusing are the 2% of Clinton supporters who gjinl she is an actual demon. ..
    Or the 9% who aren't sure but will support her anyway.
    https://cthulhuforamerica.com/

    Why chose the lesser evil?
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865

    MP_SE said:

    Trump was right to say Weiner was a "collector of information". That is a staggering number of emails. Altough I wouldn't be surprised if a significant number of them related to social media, dating and adult websites.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/792813717624856576

    And someone said earlier they'd get through them in a few days ... :)
    If they know what they want to find then the search function would make it much quicker.........or simply typing in Hilary ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,838

    Scott_P said:

    Wow, didn't see that coming...

    htps://twitter.com/msmithsonpb/status/792836227116437512

    It's almost as if we are going to end up spending a shed load more than £350 million a week on mitigating the voluntary decision we are going to take to leave the single market.

    People are welcome to try to convince the public of the needlessness of that decision and reverse the intention.
  • The Dems are cranking it up to eleven

    https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/792843842479239168
  • JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807

    I like the way that 2 % of Hillary supporters tbink she is an actual demon, but will vote for her anyway.

    Satanists for Hillary? Or Amageddon wishers for Hillary?

    Gotta love the public!
    I'm reminded of a poll prior to 23 June which found two BNP supporters who were voting Remain.
  • PeterCPeterC Posts: 1,275
    Jobabob said:

    Scott_P said:
    It's almost as if we are going to end up spending a shed load more than £350 million a week on mitigating the voluntary decision we are going to take to leave the single market.

    Yes, special measures for, er, pretty much everyone. The entire project undermined by a series of expensive exceptions. Who could have imagined it?
    A more plausible explanation is that the government intends to remain in the customs union for a lengthy interim period.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,753
    I'd have thought that maximising the publicity this story gets is unlikely to be in the Democrats interest.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,985
    Moses_ said:

    MP_SE said:

    Trump was right to say Weiner was a "collector of information". That is a staggering number of emails. Altough I wouldn't be surprised if a significant number of them related to social media, dating and adult websites.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/792813717624856576

    And someone said earlier they'd get through them in a few days ... :)
    If they know what they want to find then the search function would make it much quicker.........or simply typing in Hilary ?
    That makes several assumptions, none of which might be accurate. You can start with simple searches, but someone will probably have to go through every one, for the sake of thoroughness.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,913
    Sean_F said:

    I'd have thought that maximising the publicity this story gets is unlikely to be in the Democrats interest.
    And throwing mud at the FBI just plays into Trump's 'drain the swamp' narrative.
  • Sean_F said:

    I'd have thought that maximising the publicity this story gets is unlikely to be in the Democrats interest.
    I reckon it is a GOTV attempt and shove the soft Dems back into line by saying Trump as President could happen if you don't turn out and vote.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited October 2016
    A GWB admin lawyer has filed a Hatch act complaint against Comey.
  • Alistair said:

    A GWB admin lawyer has filed a Hart act complaint against Comey.
    Not that I doubt you, but do you have link please?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,913

    Blimey

    So by implication they're accusing the FBI of doing the Russians' bidding! Sounds pretty desperate.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Sean_F said:

    I'd have thought that maximising the publicity this story gets is unlikely to be in the Democrats interest.
    The story was the front page of every newspaper and lead every news network for ay last 24h.

    They are looking for new front pages to reset the narrative.
  • Blimey

    So by implication they're accusing the FBI of doing the Russians' bidding! Sounds pretty desperate.
    Nah, have you forgotten Robert Hanssen?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,913
    Alistair said:


    They are looking for new front pages to reset the narrative.

    A Hillary collapse would do it.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,913

    Blimey

    So by implication they're accusing the FBI of doing the Russians' bidding! Sounds pretty desperate.
    Nah, have you forgotten Robert Hanssen?
    He was an agent, not the FBI Director.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    The paragraph about Russia is the real hot potato of the letter. Incendiary stuff. May get lost though.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,753
    Alistair said:

    Sean_F said:

    I'd have thought that maximising the publicity this story gets is unlikely to be in the Democrats interest.
    The story was the front page of every newspaper and lead every news network for ay last 24h.

    They are looking for new front pages to reset the narrative.
    I could be wrong, but I think that the FBI is probably better-regarded than the politicians are, among voters generally.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    A photoshopped political rally:
    https://twitter.com/Conservative_VW/status/792832545607954433

    Just put a £100 on Trump today.
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