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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,725
    Some rather vocal protesters outside Downing Street 'What do we want Brexit, when do we want it now! ' 'Theresa May, don't delay, Article 50 today! '
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    BBC - Michael Fallon into Downing Street

    All these people going "in" and so far only Osborne has come "out" (via ther back door)

    What the hell is Mrs May doing in there? :open_mouth:
    They're all playing Pokémon Go. There's a big punch up since Fallon found a Mew Two in the cabinet office.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,387
    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    Near perfect back bencher.
  • frpenkridgefrpenkridge Posts: 670
    According to BBC, Fallon could be minister for answering difficult questions on the Today programme.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,786
    This means we're not getting a corporation tax cut to 15% doesnt it.. #sadaccountant
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    RobD said:

    Hard to get my head around the fact the referendum was 2 weeks and 6 days ago.

    I have hardly slept since then.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    Samuel Horti ‏@SamuelHortiPW 1h1 hour ago
    Just been told by govt source that every single Downing Street adviser has gone. "It's pretty drastic. There's a lot of expertise [there]"


    If you're going to do it, better it be done immediately.

    Is Cameron pinching the best ones for his new foundation?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,855
    Pong said:

    If Boris is Home Secretary, I'll believe that May really wants to kill off his political career.

    If he wants to be taken seriously, then he'll have to prove himself.

    He put himself out there as a more suitable PM than Theresa - now is his chance to put the hard work in to prove he's up to it.

    It would hardly be an unfair appointment.
    Indeed not - it would be an unearned one.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,304
    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    She's gone up in my estimation.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Meanwhile...

    @GdnPolitics: Owen Smith to offer referendum on Brexit deal if elected Labour leader https://t.co/0UBX3FeWDx
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    Sandpit said:

    Michael Fallon entering No. 10.

    A coalition with the LibDems?
    Very brave!
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    GIN1138 said:

    All these people going "in" and so far only Osborne has come "out" (via ther back door)

    What the hell is Mrs May doing in there? :open_mouth:

    Debating whether JohnO should get a Viscountcy or an Earldom.

  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Pong said:

    If Boris is Home Secretary, I'll believe that May really wants to kill off his political career.

    If he wants to be taken seriously, then he'll have to prove himself.

    He put himself out there as a more suitable PM than Theresa - now is his chance to put the hard work in to prove he's up to it.

    It would hardly be an unfair appointment.
    Yep, I agree. Personally, I think Boris at the Home Office (if true) will be sheer comedy. Another PBer said the best job for Boris would be Culture Secretary: I agree that he'd feel most comfortable there.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158

    This means we're not getting a corporation tax cut to 15% doesnt it.. #sadaccountant

    But we might get back the differential between SMEs and large companies #happysmallbusinessman
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    HYUFD said:

    Some rather vocal protesters outside Downing Street 'What do we want Brexit, when do we want it now! ' 'Theresa May, don't delay, Article 50 today! '

    They're going to need to be patient. Article 50 will come, though it won't be anytime soon.
  • EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,963

    Essexit said:

    Lots of speculation about what Theresa's speech means. Frankly I doubt her rhetoric now will translate into much more than continued tinkering at the edges à la Cameron, the only thing that came across clearly from it was a kind of bland centrism; not necessarily a bad thing but she won't be a radical or serious reformer of any kind.

    Also, PaddyPower is offering 10/11 on Corbyn to win the leadership election. Judging by Facebook and Twitter it's now widely known that Corbynites can get round the £25 cost by joining Unite for a much smaller sum, and people are really wound up about the NEC trying to move the goalposts. Would anyone care to talk me out of putting £50 or so down?

    I thought you needed to be in an affiliated union for 12 months so how does that work?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-leadership-contest-vote-jeremy-corbyn-new-members-momentum-vote-avoid-paying-25-fee-a7133851.html - this would imply not. Merits investigation though.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    So if the cabinet turns out was well as predicted, Autumn election?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,161
    Scott_P said:

    Meanwhile...

    @GdnPolitics: Owen Smith to offer referendum on Brexit deal if elected Labour leader https://t.co/0UBX3FeWDx

    Utterly ridiculous, since the EU would not be bound by it. It'd be the deal vs. WTO most favoured nation rules.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Keep hearing Boris for FCO and Brexit combined
  • paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,507
    AndyJS said:

    Amber Rudd is the same age as Andrea Leadsom but looks about 20 years younger.

    senior financial jobs do take their toll.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,855
    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    I'm stunned the premiership opened with a lie that he 'resigned'. But that's a lie that's always told, so I'll let it slide.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,161
    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    All these people going "in" and so far only Osborne has come "out" (via ther back door)

    What the hell is Mrs May doing in there? :open_mouth:

    Debating whether JohnO should get a Viscountcy or an Earldom.

    Dukedom not on the cards? :(
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    edited July 2016
    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    She gets extra points if someone can confirm that she kicked him in the balls first.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,045
    So Osborne was sacked - hohoho
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,450
    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    EU Go Girl!!!! :smiley:
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    PlatoSaid said:

    Samuel Horti ‏@SamuelHortiPW 1h1 hour ago
    Just been told by govt source that every single Downing Street adviser has gone. "It's pretty drastic. There's a lot of expertise [there]"


    If you're going to do it, better it be done immediately.

    Is Cameron pinching the best ones for his new foundation?
    Just the playstation.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited July 2016
    Was Osborne still the favourite for next PM this time 4 months ago?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    RodCrosby said:

    Scott_P said:

    @allisonpearson: May I be the first to point out that Philip May, the PM's consort, is a dead ringer for Arthur Askey. For younger followers: a comedian.

    Ay-Thang-Yew!
    And Askey was a brilliant comedian for his time and decade 1934 -1945
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    Scott_P said:

    So if the cabinet turns out was well as predicted, Autumn election?

    Labour to split in September, followed by a general election in October, resulting in a gargantuan Tory majority (especially in England & Wales).

    Do it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,855
    RobD said:

    Scott_P said:

    Meanwhile...

    @GdnPolitics: Owen Smith to offer referendum on Brexit deal if elected Labour leader https://t.co/0UBX3FeWDx

    Utterly ridiculous, since the EU would not be bound by it. It'd be the deal vs. WTO most favoured nation rules.
    Yes - those pushing for a second referendum on that basis make less sense than those few simply wanting a rerun in my opinion.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Meat pie shop opening next door?

    Not on my watch !!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,725
    RodCrosby said:

    Trump moving in. I'm back into a 4 figure cashout situation.

    There's speculation on PEC [not at all a Trump-friendly site] that there's been a genuine shift to him, and he could be ahead in a week or two.

    He certainly continues to outperform in the swing-states, as I have noted for several months.
    A popular vote win for the Crooked One, but an EC loss also remains far more likely than the reverse.

    The EC favours the Democrats at the moment, even if Trump wins Ohio and Florida, Hillary could still win if she wins Virginia, Colorado and Pennsylvania. Romney was much closer to Obama in the popular vote than in the EC
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited July 2016
    Some members of the new cabinet will have more in common with John Major's generation of cabinet ministers than Cameron and Osborne's. Hammond and May are only slightly younger than Michael Portillo, John Redwood, Stephen Dorrell, Michael Forsyth, David Mellor.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,613
    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    Ha ha. Well done Theresa, I wouldn't want my predecessor's right hand man around either. Cameron and Osborne come and go together.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,161
    Scott_P said:

    So if the cabinet turns out was well as predicted, Autumn election?

    You can imagine May saying "I didn't think we needed an election, but after discussions with my Cabinet, I have been persuaded otherwise..."
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    BoJo Foreign Secretary!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,662
    Essexit said:

    Essexit said:

    Lots of speculation about what Theresa's speech means. Frankly I doubt her rhetoric now will translate into much more than continued tinkering at the edges à la Cameron, the only thing that came across clearly from it was a kind of bland centrism; not necessarily a bad thing but she won't be a radical or serious reformer of any kind.

    Also, PaddyPower is offering 10/11 on Corbyn to win the leadership election. Judging by Facebook and Twitter it's now widely known that Corbynites can get round the £25 cost by joining Unite for a much smaller sum, and people are really wound up about the NEC trying to move the goalposts. Would anyone care to talk me out of putting £50 or so down?

    I thought you needed to be in an affiliated union for 12 months so how does that work?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-leadership-contest-vote-jeremy-corbyn-new-members-momentum-vote-avoid-paying-25-fee-a7133851.html - this would imply not. Merits investigation though.
    The 12 months is to transfer to membership of the Labour party.
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    Danny565 said:

    Was Osborne still the favourite for next PM this time 4 months ago?

    Must have been favourite on the eve of the referendum.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    edited July 2016
    Phillip Hammond going into the Treasury.

    Where he will find a note saying "Dear Chief Secretary, I’m afraid there is no money. Kind regards – and good luck! George."
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    BBC Boris is Foreign Secretary
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    If she did say that to Osborne, and he wanted a job, he could be quite the enemy to have if things get tricky. [Which they, ahem, may].
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,161
    edited July 2016
    JackW said:

    BBC Boris is Foreign Secretary

    :o wow although you can see why given the need for unity. had to have some big Leave positions.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,855

    HYUFD said:

    Some rather vocal protesters outside Downing Street 'What do we want Brexit, when do we want it now! ' 'Theresa May, don't delay, Article 50 today! '

    They're going to need to be patient. Article 50 will come, though it won't be anytime soon.
    Before the end of 2016 I reckon, despite May's pronouncements on the subject. Just a question of it there is any value to be had in the odds for then.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    BORIS TO FOREIGN?!
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    JackW said:

    BBC Boris is Foreign Secretary

    Genuinely surprised. Also: slightly scared.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,922
    JackW said:

    BBC Boris is Foreign Secretary

    He's jumping the queue.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    John_M said:

    JackW said:

    BBC Boris is Foreign Secretary

    Genuinely surprised. Also: slightly scared.
    Something about tents...
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    GeoffM said:

    Sandpit said:

    Michael Fallon entering No. 10.

    A coalition with the LibDems?
    Very brave!
    Broad tent with a certain Labour minister included, perhaps?

    :-)
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Boris is Foreign Secretary.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Boris leaves the building.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,295

    BORIS TO FOREIGN?!

    That would be insane. He hasn't the slightest conception of what diplomacy means.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,786
    Just imagine the fun! The gaffes!
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    This is how wars start.
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    edited July 2016
    ''Genuinely surprised. Also: slightly scared. ''

    Looks like I'm going to be eating my words on May. That is a radical and quite clever move.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,304
    Boris is too much danger to May out of the cabinet.
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,843
    Bojo at Foreign! It may be she wants to get 1 Leaver into the offices of state, and Grayling is gonna be Brexit.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @rowenamason: Boris Johnson is the new foreign secretary - tricky brief. Now unable to walk away from the Brexit he wanted
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,450
    edited July 2016
    Osborne OUT and a leading LEAVER in one of the top three jobs. I'm happy, :)
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    JackW said:

    BBC Boris is Foreign Secretary

    Who will be the Tory Peter Mandelson they’ll send to bail him out?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,922
    I suspect May will be more willing than Cameron was to sack people if they don't perform.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,786
    Face it May had to throw the exiters sone red meat.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Confirmed. Boris is Foreign Sec..............
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Boris is Foreign Secretary.
  • BromBrom Posts: 3,760
    Yesterday I suggested Boris might get defence, turns out he gets foreign! Really impressed by that, he did a lot of trade negotiations abroad and diplomacy while London Mayor and can see him being suited to this role. Thank God it wasn't Home Secretary. Poor old George!
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    I did say yesterday that this May cabinet would be a radical departure but didn't expect Boris as Foreign Secretary.

    Wow
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Good luck in King Charles Street Boris, you'll be as popular as smallpox.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,844
    Greening for Education anyone?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,740
    Boris back to favourite (again) for next PM?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,146
    tlg86 said:

    Boris is too much danger to May out of the cabinet.

    This is some change - great start Theresa - sacking Osborne master stroke
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,161
    JackW said:

    I did say yesterday that this May cabinet would be a radical departure but didn't expect Boris as Foreign Secretary.

    Wow

    The ARSE quivers? :D
  • DeClareDeClare Posts: 483

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    RobD said:

    MikeL said:

    Expect a big kerfuffle about a new hereditary peerage in the Resignation Honours...

    But the successor wouldn't get to sit in the Lords - unless elected at a Hereditary by-election.
    Even newly minted hereditaries can't sit. When the 99 Act was passed the hereditaries which were the first holders of their title were offered life peerages.
    Who was left by then? There can't have been many first generation hereditaries still alive by 1999, given I think there were only four or five after 1965 and only 1 after 1979.
    Quite a few royal ones, I think one actually took a life peerage, maybe the husband of Margaret? Caused a bit of a stir.
    Royal peers don't sit in the Lords, although those ennobled to marry female ones (Linley, Snowden) presumably can. Were they the ones?

    Edit - do I mean Linley? What was Mark Philips created?
    No, they cannot automatically - Royal peers have hereditary peerages and so would need to be elected in a hereditary peer by-election.
    I meant before 1999! That was the point of the original comment.
    Yes, they could (including the Prince of Wales & Earl of Chester) though I don't believe did.

    It's a bit like how the Queen could vote in a general election, but doesn't for constitutional convention reasons.
    Since 1964 there have been three non-Royal hereditary peerages created:

    1983 - Viscount Tonypandy - Former speaker George Thomas - Extinct childless
    1983 - Viscount (Willie) Whitelaw - Extinct because he had no son and there wasn't a special remainder for his eldest daughter to inherit the title.
    1984 - Earl of Stockton - Former PM Harold McMillan - Title inherited by his Grandson who was already a Viscount.

    Peers of the first creation are allowed to sit and vote in the HoL regardless of rank.

    Incidentally there has only been one Baronetcy created since 1964 and that was a special gift from The Queen for Maggie Thatcher's husband Sir Dennis, now held by their son Sir Mark Thatcher.


  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Did anyone bet on Boris getting that job?
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    Ishmael_X said:

    Do the skills required for Mayor of London not transfer comparatively well to the Home Office?

    Transfer almost perfectly to Transport :D
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,843
    Btw is the Brexit secretary actually going to be called Secretary of State for Brexit? Surely something more official sounding?
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    AndyJS said:

    Some members of the new cabinet will have more in common with John Major's generation of cabinet ministers than Cameron and Osborne's. Hammond and May are only slightly younger than Michael Portillo, John Redwood, Stephen Dorrell, Michael Forsyth, David Mellor.

    :open_mouth:
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,783
    Ha, ha, ha, ha. That is hilarious.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,410
    Boris the Comeback Kid :lol:
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,786
    MikeL said:

    Boris back to favourite (again) for next PM?

    Very possible.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Will we get Wiff Waff Wars with China ?!?
  • jonny83 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Devastating interview for Labour on Channel 4 News at the moment, with Johanna Baxter.

    Labour NEC woman? Looks absolutely terrified
    On the edge of a breakdown. And she's a tiny little thing too.
    Just checked her twitter feed. She is getting a heck of a lot of abuse on there. Labour are in a bad way.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,855
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_P said:

    @tnewtondunn: Breaking: George Osborne was sacked. Theresa May told him she didn't want him in her Cabinet. Wow.

    Ha ha. Well done Theresa, I wouldn't want my predecessor's right hand man around either. Cameron and Osborne come and go together.
    Whatever one thinks of their work, they made a good team. It was nice that the PM and Chancellor didn't work against each other.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    AndyJS said:

    Some members of the new cabinet will have more in common with John Major's generation of cabinet ministers than Cameron and Osborne's. Hammond and May are only slightly younger than Michael Portillo, John Redwood, Stephen Dorrell, Michael Forsyth, David Mellor.

    I'd love to see the likes of Lilley and Howard back.

    Howard as leader in the Lords maybe?
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    The Foreign Office of the old days (pre-Managed Decline) is BACK.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,080
    Mr. Glenn, indeed, although I did quite like the Cameron approach of only rarely doing reshuffles. Made a change from Blair chopping and changing all the time.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503

    Btw is the Brexit secretary actually going to be called Secretary of State for Brexit? Surely something more official sounding?

    Secretary of State for Sticking it to Johnny Foreigner?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,161

    Btw is the Brexit secretary actually going to be called Secretary of State for Brexit? Surely something more official sounding?

    I was wondering the same thing too...... Hopefully it's Ministry of Europe or something.
  • ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,843
    Guardian liveblog comments Bojo didn't look particularly happy when leaving downing street. Would've thought Foreign Sec is the best he could have hoped for no?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,613
    Boris's car goes from Downing St to the FO next door. That's, umm, a surprise.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    BORIS, for KING IN THE NORTH!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @journodave: Putin invades the Baltics, the Americans are banging the drum.

    It comes down to Britain to calm the waters.

    Boris enters 'hello chaps'
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,161
    DeClare said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    RobD said:

    ydoethur said:

    RobD said:

    MikeL said:

    Expect a big kerfuffle about a new hereditary peerage in the Resignation Honours...

    But the successor wouldn't get to sit in the Lords - unless elected at a Hereditary by-election.
    Even newly minted hereditaries can't sit. When the 99 Act was passed the hereditaries which were the first holders of their title were offered life peerages.
    Who was left by then? There can't have been many first generation hereditaries still alive by 1999, given I think there were only four or five after 1965 and only 1 after 1979.
    Quite a few royal ones, I think one actually took a life peerage, maybe the husband of Margaret? Caused a bit of a stir.
    Royal peers don't sit in the Lords, although those ennobled to marry female ones (Linley, Snowden) presumably can. Were they the ones?

    Edit - do I mean Linley? What was Mark Philips created?
    No, they cannot automatically - Royal peers have hereditary peerages and so would need to be elected in a hereditary peer by-election.
    I meant before 1999! That was the point of the original comment.
    Yes, they could (including the Prince of Wales & Earl of Chester) though I don't believe did.

    It's a bit like how the Queen could vote in a general election, but doesn't for constitutional convention reasons.

    Peers of the first creation are allowed to sit and vote in the HoL regardless of rank.



    Not hereditary peers.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,450
    edited July 2016
    AndyJS said:

    Did anyone bet on Boris getting that job?

    I didn't exactly predict it but I did say you couldn't have REMAIN filling PM, CoE and Foreign positions as the media and PB seemed to think)
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,340
    Yes Boris!
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    RobD said:

    Btw is the Brexit secretary actually going to be called Secretary of State for Brexit? Surely something more official sounding?

    I was wondering the same thing too...... Hopefully it's Ministry of Europe or something.
    It would sound a bit Newspeak to have a "Ministry of Europe" when the purpose is to leave it.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,304

    The Foreign Office of the old days (pre-Managed Decline) is BACK.

    Don't hold your breath.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,855
    tlg86 said:

    Boris is too much danger to May out of the cabinet.

    Unlike Osborne. Probably Boris needed some job, but a shame it's a big one.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270
    How long until Boris makes his first major gaffe as foreign secretary on some trip?
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    Btw is the Brexit secretary actually going to be called Secretary of State for Brexit? Surely something more official sounding?

    Probably will be either Lord President of the Council, Lord Privy Seal or Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster... *and* "Minister for British Exit of the European Union" (or whatever) within either Foreign and Commonwealth Office or maybe the Cabinet Office (ie not a Secretary of State).
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