@PeterMannionMP: Foreign Office will look forward to exacting a slow, painful revenge on Boris Johnson. Important visits to shitholes of the world scheduled.
@hugorifkind: If it cheers you up, though, Boris Johnson probably just took a pay cut of £250k pa.
Boris is notoriously bone idle – so suspect she wants someone in the FCO who will do the square root of f-all and let the civil servants get on with it with interfering
Virtually the whole of PB rejoicing at Osborne's sacking.
And who said politics wasn't able to unite people anymore?
He got off to a strong start but was possessed by the vengeful shade of Gordon Brown. His referendum campaign was all political. Party before country. Bad man.
Given the party was deeply split on the issue but it is often claimed that they would have been less rocked if Cameron and Co had pitched for Leave instead, I would assume those going for Remain, rightly or wrongly, must have been thinking they put country before party.
@hugorifkind: If it cheers you up, though, Boris Johnson probably just took a pay cut of £250k pa.
Boris is notoriously bone idle – so suspect she wants someone in the FCO who will do the square root of f-all and let the civil servants get on with it without the minister interfering
@hugorifkind: If it cheers you up, though, Boris Johnson probably just took a pay cut of £250k pa.
Think of the book deal he will get when he leaves / gets sacked though....he might be lazy, but I bet he records everything ala Bad Al and gets a series of books of his time in office out of it.
She's clearly trying to form some kind of Unity Cabinet to keep the party on side, but some of these appointments could make her look silly if they don't pan out.
I wonder if Leadsom will get anything? I wouldn't if I was May but unity...
Boris will be well out of the way at the FCO – Foreign Secs spend much of their lives abroad.
Virtually the whole of PB rejoicing at Osborne's sacking.
And who said politics wasn't able to unite people anymore?
Not impressed by his slinking out the back door when no-one was watching.
I doubt it was his choice which door he was sent out.
Osborne and May have history. His acolytes briefed against her. It is known.
There were also a lot of stories during the referendum about how Cameron and Osborne were going to sack Theresa for not pulling her weight in the campaign....
Hammond to CoE, best decision in many many years. Given the past year, where reality has been like 5 seasons of House of Cards, what we need the most boring man in UK politics to guide the economy in a calm manner and without of the Brownian nonsense of Osborne.
Virtually the whole of PB rejoicing at Osborne's sacking.
And who said politics wasn't able to unite people anymore?
I'll only rejoice if his successor does a better job. It shouldn't be that hard, but on the other hand the deficit being educed is probably off the table now given Brexit, so the successor doesn't have to try to manage that while not pissing off too many voters.
Direction of travel will still be important though... It's got to be reduced!
It will probably go up! The government won't have much choice but to spend its way out of the shit with the Brexit penalty.
What's interesting about that is that I'm unsure whether he's referring to Clinton or Trump.
Hillary I think but Boris can suck up to anyone if he needs to
I genuinely feel like having Boris in the Foreign Office is like appointing Prince Philip as Foreign Secretary. The end results will be exactly the same.
Virtually the whole of PB rejoicing at Osborne's sacking.
And who said politics wasn't able to unite people anymore?
He got off to a strong start but was possessed by the vengeful shade of Gordon Brown. His referendum campaign was all political. Party before country. Bad man.
Given the party was deeply split on the issue but it is often claimed that they would have been less rocked if Cameron and Co had pitched for Leave instead, I would assume those going for Remain, rightly or wrongly, must have been thinking they put country before party.
Osborne is at least partly responsible for spooking the markets. The 'punishment budget' was incredibly ill-judged. The treasury forecast was savaged. He could have played with a straight bat and still made a very powerful case for Remain.
Johnson - more than cancels the rest out and leaves plenty of negative over.
I really hope she's thought this through or it could cause massive problems six months from now. Boris is not a loose cannon, he's a ticking time bomb connected to a powder magazine.
David Davis confirmed as BREXIT Secretary. Hammond was a key Davis backer in 2005, Davis also backed Boris before May, looks like he may have the last laugh over the Cameroons with Cameron gone, Osborne sacked, Boles returning to the backbenches and Gove unlikely to get anything
Surely his opposite number is John Kerry? Not that he has anything to apologise for.
For mentioning Obama's part-Kenyan ancestry as some kind of anti-British spite. It was repugnant and crass. He knew perfectly well the President was only saying what Boris' old Bullingdon chum wanted him to. But much easier for Boris to play the race/xenophobia card.
Virtually the whole of PB rejoicing at Osborne's sacking.
And who said politics wasn't able to unite people anymore?
He got off to a strong start but was possessed by the vengeful shade of Gordon Brown. His referendum campaign was all political. Party before country. Bad man.
Given the party was deeply split on the issue but it is often claimed that they would have been less rocked if Cameron and Co had pitched for Leave instead, I would assume those going for Remain, rightly or wrongly, must have been thinking they put country before party.
Osborne is at least partly responsible for spooking the markets. The 'punishment budget' was incredibly ill-judged. The treasury forecast was savaged. He could have played with a straight bat and still made a very powerful case for Remain.
I'm sure he could have - that doesn't mean he didn't think Remain was the best case for the country, and thus was putting the country first, which is what was implied by the suggestion he put the party first in the referendum. His behaviour makes no sense if he was trying to put the party first.
@TimRossDT: If Boris Johnson, David Davis & Liam Fox all get top jobs, May would find it much easier to sack that other Leave campaigner, Michael Gove.
Davis to lead the the EU exit negotiations. Another good appointment.
Isn't this his first cabinet role? I know he was a junior minister under Major (a whip wasn't it)? But that would surely make him a contender for oldest first time cabinet minister?
David Davis confirmed as BREXIT Secretary. Hammond was a key Davis backer in 2005, Davis also backed Boris before May, looks like he may have the last laugh over the Cameroons with Cameron gone, Osborne sacked, Boles returning to the backbenches and Gove unlikely to get anything
Probably not a time for detailed thought or analysis but if that's all you have, that's all you have.
I listened to May on the way home and you'd be forgiven for thinking Labour had just won the General Election. This is 1990 dialled up several notches - a completely new look at the top and a new tone welcome after months of paralysis. Yet May, as she showed earlier in the week, for all the obvious comparisons with Thatcher, is now sounding more Heseltine in terms of intervention.
This will be a Government in the corporatist mode and as such is already getting flak from the arch-Thatcherites at City AM and elsewhere with calls for greater public expenditure cuts which seem to run opposed to May's vision.
As with all Prime Ministers and all Cabinets, the voices in the tent will have seats at the table and May will have plenty of tensions to resolve in Government over the coming months and if, or as many believe, when, the economic waters get choppier, it will be challenging to balance the rhetoric against the reality.
I shed few tears for Cameron who enjoyed all the luck going for over a decade but was the architect of his own demise though if you consider both his and Osborne's formative years in the Party, it's perhaps little surprise they saw "banging on about Europe" is the one certain way to undermine Conservative political hegemony.
As for Osborne, his record as Chancellor will be the stuff of argument for years if not decades to come. Nothing that happens today makes a Conservative victory more or less certain in 2020 which is an eternity away. That the Prime Minister will enjoy a honeymoon is inevitable - how she uses this political capital will be instructive.
Expect a big kerfuffle about a new hereditary peerage in the Resignation Honours...
But the successor wouldn't get to sit in the Lords - unless elected at a Hereditary by-election.
Even newly minted hereditaries can't sit. When the 99 Act was passed the hereditaries which were the first holders of their title were offered life peerages.
Who was left by then? There can't have been many first generation hereditaries still alive by 1999, given I think there were only four or five after 1965 and only 1 after 1979.
Quite a few royal ones, I think one actually took a life peerage, maybe the husband of Margaret? Caused a bit of a stir.
Royal peers don't sit in the Lords, although those ennobled to marry female ones (Linley, Snowden) presumably can. Were they the ones?
Edit - do I mean Linley? What was Mark Philips created?
No, they cannot automatically - Royal peers have hereditary peerages and so would need to be elected in a hereditary peer by-election.
I meant before 1999! That was the point of the original comment.
Yes, they could (including the Prince of Wales & Earl of Chester) though I don't believe did.
It's a bit like how the Queen could vote in a general election, but doesn't for constitutional convention reasons.
Peers of the first creation are allowed to sit and vote in the HoL regardless of rank.
Not hereditary peers.
I believe Price Charles made a speech in the Lords in 1975 !
David Davis confirmed as BREXIT Secretary. Hammond was a key Davis backer in 2005, Davis also backed Boris before May, looks like he may have the last laugh over the Cameroons with Cameron gone, Osborne sacked, Boles returning to the backbenches and Gove unlikely to get anything
Probably not a time for detailed thought or analysis but if that's all you have, that's all you have.
I listened to May on the way home and you'd be forgiven for thinking Labour had just won the General Election. This is 1990 dialled up several notches - a completely new look at the top and a new tone welcome after months of paralysis. Yet May, as she showed earlier in the week, for all the obvious comparisons with Thatcher, is now sounding more Heseltine in terms of intervention.
This will be a Government in the corporatist mode and as such is already getting flak from the arch-Thatcherites at City AM and elsewhere with calls for greater public expenditure cuts which seem to run opposed to May's vision.
As with all Prime Ministers and all Cabinets, the voices in the tent will have seats at the table and May will have plenty of tensions to resolve in Government over the coming months and if, or as many believe, when, the economic waters get choppier, it will be challenging to balance the rhetoric against the reality.
I shed few tears for Cameron who enjoyed all the luck going for over a decade but was the architect of his own demise though if you consider both his and Osborne's formative years in the Party, it's perhaps little surprise they saw "banging on about Europe" is the one certain way to undermine Conservative political hegemony.
As for Osborne, his record as Chancellor will be the stuff of argument for years if not decades to come. Nothing that happens today makes a Conservative victory more or less certain in 2020 which is an eternity away. That the Prime Minister will enjoy a honeymoon is inevitable - how she uses this political capital will be instructive.
Inclusive is good, if she means it. I imagine white working class will continue to be ignored.
Have to say I love how the Tories talk about "shrinking the state", before then creating two whole new government departments in a day ('Brexit Department' and 'Department for International Trade').
Have to say I love how the Tories talk about "shrinking the state", before then creating two whole new government departments in a day ('Brexit Department' and 'Department for International Trade').
It's only growing the state if it is in areas you disagree with.
Have to say I love how the Tories talk about "shrinking the state", before then creating two whole new government departments in a day ('Brexit Department' and 'Department for International Trade').
Both are necessary, one is temporary. The shrinking of the state comes from removing the EU from our lives.
Good luck in King Charles Street Boris, you'll be as popular as smallpox.
Maybe he's the right person for the job of turning the FCO around from its EU-focus? Have no idea, myself, but charm & jollying people along can do things a straight hard line can't.
Have to say I love how the Tories talk about "shrinking the state", before then creating two whole new government departments in a day ('Brexit Department' and 'Department for International Trade').
Both are necessary, one is temporary. The shrinking of the state comes from removing the EU from our lives.
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Just to mess with his paranoia....
Boris is notoriously bone idle – so suspect she wants someone in the FCO who will do the square root of f-all and let the civil servants get on with it without the minister interfering
OTOH, his vetting must have checked out okay if he's to be put in charge of James Bond.
Boris will be well out of the way at the FCO – Foreign Secs spend much of their lives abroad.
THE WICKED GEORGE IS DEAD
Not thrilled about the other picks, but there we go.
Hammond up - good
Davis back - good
Rudd up - neutral
Johnson - more than cancels the rest out and leaves plenty of negative over.
I really hope she's thought this through or it could cause massive problems six months from now. Boris is not a loose cannon, he's a ticking time bomb connected to a powder magazine.
Immediately mentioned Theresa's water cannot gibe. I had forgotten all about that!!
Happy to admit I got her wrong.
Immediately mentioned Theresa's water cannon gibe. I had forgotten all about that!!
THE WICKED GEORGE IS DEAD
THE WICKED GEORGE IS DEAD
THE WICKED GEORGE IS DEAD
THE WICKED GEORGE IS DEAD
THE WICKED GEORGE IS DEAD
Probably not a time for detailed thought or analysis but if that's all you have, that's all you have.
I listened to May on the way home and you'd be forgiven for thinking Labour had just won the General Election. This is 1990 dialled up several notches - a completely new look at the top and a new tone welcome after months of paralysis. Yet May, as she showed earlier in the week, for all the obvious comparisons with Thatcher, is now sounding more Heseltine in terms of intervention.
This will be a Government in the corporatist mode and as such is already getting flak from the arch-Thatcherites at City AM and elsewhere with calls for greater public expenditure cuts which seem to run opposed to May's vision.
As with all Prime Ministers and all Cabinets, the voices in the tent will have seats at the table and May will have plenty of tensions to resolve in Government over the coming months and if, or as many believe, when, the economic waters get choppier, it will be challenging to balance the rhetoric against the reality.
I shed few tears for Cameron who enjoyed all the luck going for over a decade but was the architect of his own demise though if you consider both his and Osborne's formative years in the Party, it's perhaps little surprise they saw "banging on about Europe" is the one certain way to undermine Conservative political hegemony.
As for Osborne, his record as Chancellor will be the stuff of argument for years if not decades to come. Nothing that happens today makes a Conservative victory more or less certain in 2020 which is an eternity away. That the Prime Minister will enjoy a honeymoon is inevitable - how she uses this political capital will be instructive.
Wow BREXIT means BREXIT
She certainly ain't scared to appoint Hard Brexiteers and independent minded, controversial figures!
(Good evening, everyone)