OK, now is the time for May to make a big, open offer to moderate, sensible Labour members to jump ship. Kendall, Chuka, Tristram... We'd even take Woodward back. Maybe.
Pre-empt the Lab split by getting some of their better people to join a decent, centrist Tory administration - it would be a stroke of genius.
May could do that but then IDS, Patterson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tebbit, Cash etc would then swiftly move to UKIP in response
OK, now is the time for May to make a big, open offer to moderate, sensible Labour members to jump ship. Kendall, Chuka, Tristram... We'd even take Woodward back. Maybe.
Pre-empt the Lab split by getting some of their better people to join a decent, centrist Tory administration - it would be a stroke of genius.
May could do that but then IDS, Patterson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tebbit, Cash etc would then swiftly move to UKIP in response
No they wouldn't. There will be very few moves to UKIP now from the right.
Disagree, if May agrees EEA/EFTA the likes of Cash and Patterson and IDS could be off to UKIP like a rocket, certainly with Labour now effectively redundant as a real opposition to the May government
Nah, the Tory eurosceptic right will now be pretty content - the sovereignty issue is settled as far as they're concerned. I doubt they regard the whole EEFTA/FoM thing as anything other than an esoteric quibble. They certainly won't be losing their safe Tory seats over it.
Cash and Patterson and IDS and Rees-Mogg are firmly anti freedom of movement and the seats they represent, rural market town and Essex border are hardly likely to switch to UKIP with them if they defect
If the gentlemen you mention didn't defect to UKIP when the Holy Grail of Brexit was still in the balance, they're not going to do so just to comfort a few xenophobes. Move on! UKIP is just so 2014...
" Founded in 1978, the club’s name was the brainchild of Reg Brealey, a friend of owner Charles Polson.
Brealey, famed for his stint as Chairman of Sheffield United in the 1980s as well as having links with his native Lincoln City, provided the club with playing kits and income through various means of sponsorship."
Do I have this right? I have paid £60 to be a full Labour party member, but don't get a vote in the leadership election; however, if I pay another £25 I can? Doesn't make much sense, but if those are the rules I'll abide.
What the hell, your membership costs £60? Even Tory membership is only £25.
But the Tories don´t let you vote.....
But as a doctrinally pure Labourite you can feel incredibly smug, like a Prius driver.
Or as South Park brilliantly coined them Pious drivers...
IANAL but the BBC is reporting that members are upset about the restrictions on voting for leader announced by the NEC. They point out that the Party website seems to promise that members get a vote - without specifying any restrictions.
I suppose they have a case for claiming their money back.
Do I have this right? I have paid £60 to be a full Labour party member, but don't get a vote in the leadership election; however, if I pay another £25 I can? Doesn't make much sense, but if those are the rules I'll abide.
There are some occasions when it is better to pay by monthly direct debit. £3.92 per month with the option to cancel v £47 per year standard rate. £1.96pm v £23.50 reduced. Or £5pm v £60 if you choose to pay a bit extra as did Southam.
I'm happy to reveal that now Plato won't be able to take advantage of it in time.
" Founded in 1978, the club’s name was the brainchild of Reg Brealey, a friend of owner Charles Polson.
Brealey, famed for his stint as Chairman of Sheffield United in the 1980s as well as having links with his native Lincoln City, provided the club with playing kits and income through various means of sponsorship."
So all the Labour whips have resigned which makes the SNP the official opposition unless Corbyn can find some new ones by tomorrow right?
But he already ran out of people to appoint to the shadow ministerial team, there are still vacancies. And he can't get shadow ministers to double up as whips, because whips can't speak in the chamber.
What is his way out? Change some shadow ministers to whips and get other shadow ministers to double up?
You have to admire the Labour Party - if your party is gonna be flushed down the pan you may as well pocket as much cash as you can before you go round the u-bend
Class action law suit here we go....all them £3er's wanting their money back.
3 quidders weren't eligible anyway. Their £3 was for the last contest - they would have had to pay again to vote in this one, just the fee has gone up. It the paid up members who might demand their money back.
Disagree. It was the 35 muppets who nominated him that put the gun to Labour's head. The NEC have simply pulled the trigger. They've been destroyed by their own shitty, shitty rules.
In 20 years time you'll just remember that Corbyn murdered Labour today.
(For what it's worth I think that the reformation of the Left will be a really positive thing. In the mean time though the left should at least in part join in with the new PM's vision.)
Labour has just put out an amended press release, with a cut-off date of 12 January - the party previously said it would be February (see below).
Its general secretary Iain McNicol recently said 129,726 people had joined since the EU Referendum - these people will not be able to vote (unless they pay an extra £25).
@Independent: Exclusive: Theresa May’s husband is senior executive at a $1.4tn hedge fund that profits from tax avoiding companies https://t.co/6A4XGC3QUQ
Labour will be all over this.
oh, wait...
They are really stretching with that tweet...
Capital is like Fidelity - it's not a hedge fund
And the "profits from tax avoiding companies" is because they have shares in Amazon and Starbucks
Labour has just put out an amended press release, with a cut-off date of 12 January - the party previously said it would be February (see below).
Its general secretary Iain McNicol recently said 129,726 people had joined since the EU Referendum - these people will not be able to vote (unless they pay an extra £25).
Oh, for goodness sake! All this wailing and gnashing of teeth, and from some who are old enough to know better is a bit pathetic. We had all the same predictions when Foot was leader and especially when he lost the 1983 election. We also heard much the same about the Conservatives after 2001.
Labour as a party is not going to die. I very much doubt it will split. It may well lose the 2020 general election but then the Conservatives lost three GEs in a row before they found their feet again and started to appeal to people outside their core vote.
Foot kept Labour ahead of the SDP in second place, I would not be so certain Corbyn can hold off UKIP. The Tories got rid of IDS in 2003 before the LDs became a real threat, Labour are about to re-elect Corbyn
Mr. HYFUD, if UKIP is to survive, let alone become a real threat to Labour it has going to have to change and change quite quickly. Farage has done it a huge favour now that his task is complete but I think there will be a battle for what sort of Party it should become.
I think the chances of it morphing into a party that will appeal to the Northern Cities are rather lower than it fading away. After all the Party was set up with one goal in mind that has been achieved, why should it continue and who is going to pay for it?
It will continue focusing on an anti immigration, nationalist, traditionalist platform, especially if May agrees to some form of free movement. Funding will come from the likes of Leave.EU's Aaron Banks who has a net worth of £250 million and promised to pour money into the party if May won the Tory leadership
Take your point on funding, but I am not sure that focusing on immigration, nationalism and tradition will be enough to win seats, though. But we shall see.
Against Corbyn Labour in northern and midlands working class towns and against May's Tories in Essex and Kent I would say UKIP have an excellent chance of picking up seats
Gosh, I so much want to say, "Want to bet?" But let common sense prevail it is too far away and too much will happen in the interim.
The only problem with that is UKIP itself - it is not an effective party at the "ground game". This is not me being rude about them. It is simply an observation of what has happened in the past.
Transforming UKIP into a party that can win parliamentary seats will take a very large amount of work. The question is who can lead the party in that direction?
Contrived outrage in all honesty. It's quite normal. Labour routinely operates freeze dates for selections for the likes of local government elections. You can join and vote in leadership elections in due course, just don't join a few weeks before a leadership election for the purpose of influencing it.
Do I have this right? I have paid £60 to be a full Labour party member, but don't get a vote in the leadership election; however, if I pay another £25 I can? Doesn't make much sense, but if those are the rules I'll abide.
Going to be a race to see who resigns first: you or Falconer....
Labour has just put out an amended press release, with a cut-off date of 12 January - the party previously said it would be February (see below).
Its general secretary Iain McNicol recently said 129,726 people had joined since the EU Referendum - these people will not be able to vote (unless they pay an extra £25).
There is going to be merry hell to pay on this decision. You joined last week and now they are asking for another £25!
I was going to make a long rambly post musing how the labour market will now unfurl with the reduction in the import of cheap labour and the decreasing use of tax credits. Plus the effect of this on the margins of the larger corporations that have been growing in the last decade in the UK who have mainly relied on low margin, high volume models and how their inability to just super charge this model for the foreseeable may actually help the working classes in the long term (but not the short).
But then Corbyn comes along and ruins it, because we may have seen the death of major political party for the first time in the country since the Liberals were gobbled up by Labour.
Oh, for goodness sake! All this wailing and gnashing of teeth, and from some who are old enough to know better is a bit pathetic. We had all the same predictions when Foot was leader and especially when he lost the 1983 election. We also heard much the same about the Conservatives after 2001.
Labour as a party is not going to die. I very much doubt it will split. It may well lose the 2020 general election but then the Conservatives lost three GEs in a row before they found their feet again and started to appeal to people outside their core vote.
Foot kept Labour ahead of the SDP in second place, I would not be so certain Corbyn can hold off UKIP. The Tories got rid of IDS in 2003 before the LDs became a real threat, Labour are about to re-elect Corbyn
Mr. HYFUD, if UKIP is to survive, let alone become a real threat to Labour it has going to have to change and change quite quickly. Farage has done it a huge favour now that his task is complete but I think there will be a battle for what sort of Party it should become.
I think the chances of it morphing into a party that will appeal to the Northern Cities are rather lower than it fading away. After all the Party was set up with one goal in mind that has been achieved, why should it continue and who is going to pay for it?
It will continue focusing on an anti immigration, nationalist, traditionalist platform, especially if May agrees to some form of free movement. Funding will come from the likes of Leave.EU's Aaron Banks who has a net worth of £250 million and promised to pour money into the party if May won the Tory leadership
Take your point on funding, but I am not sure that focusing on immigration, nationalism and tradition will be enough to win seats, though. But we shall see.
Against Corbyn Labour in northern and midlands working class towns and against May's Tories in Essex and Kent I would say UKIP have an excellent chance of picking up seats
Gosh, I so much want to say, "Want to bet?" But let common sense prevail it is too far away and too much will happen in the interim.
The key issue for UKIP will be freedom of movement, likely to be retained in some form and Corbyn's re-election, if both occur whatever they do they will get a poll boost
So all the Labour whips have resigned which makes the SNP the official opposition unless Corbyn can find some new ones by tomorrow right?
But he already ran out of people to appoint to the shadow ministerial team, there are still vacancies. And he can't get shadow ministers to double up as whips, because whips can't speak in the chamber.
What is his way out? Change some shadow ministers to whips and get other shadow ministers to double up?
Skinner will come forward as will Ronnie Campbell.
To think that in the 1990s when I went to Washington d.c. I was able to walk right into the Congress building, wander around parts of it and have lunch in one of the fastish food restaurants there sitting on adjacent tables to congressmen and the like.
The difference in airline security between Gatwick and the US airport was stunning. Our side was much like it is now thanks to Pira. Coming home from US was stunned when my -non flying- US then Girlfriend was able to come and sit in the departure lounge with me. The international departure lounge was the one with the metal detector hoop where you got on the plane and the man checking passports. The internal ones (most of them) just had plane staff to check tickets.
I thought at the time that they were a bit naive. Unfortunately I wasnt the only one to notice this.
Not sure about that - surely you can be a member and an affiliated supporter? Under the old electoral college wasn't it the case that some MPs actually had 3 votes (one in each section)?
Contrived outrage in all honesty. It's quite normal. Labour routinely operates freeze dates for selections for the likes of local government elections. You can join and vote in leadership elections in due course, just don't join a few weeks before a leadership election for the purpose of influencing it.
IMO Corbyn now has to stand on a ticket of mandatory reselection for all MPs.
Do you mean if he wins the contest Labour then should go into a full party reselection process? All MP's....?
Holy crap!
Yes. Corbyn has lost the support of MPs of all political views. Left, Right, Blairite, Brownite, soft left, Blue Labour etc. Obviously all of these people are just 'wrong'. Consequently, the Labour party will become uniformly Corbynite. Unlike any other political party, Labour will cease to be a board church of views. Only Corbynism will be tolerated. It was always going to be this way as many Corbynites I've spoken to cannot deal with disagreement on any subject whatsoever.
The hard left only needed to get the upper hand once. Now it has it will change the rules to ensure it never relinquishes it. As you say by 2020 it will be a 90% Corbynite party, everyone else will have left or been forced out. As a member till fairly recently I hope it is a pyrrhic victory and Labour end up with under 100 MPs at the next GE.
@Independent: Exclusive: Theresa May’s husband is senior executive at a $1.4tn hedge fund that profits from tax avoiding companies https://t.co/6A4XGC3QUQ
Labour will be all over this.
oh, wait...
They are really stretching with that tweet...
Capital is like Fidelity - it's not a hedge fund
And the "profits from tax avoiding companies" is because they have shares in Amazon and Starbucks
There is stretching, then there is total bollocks. Given that wide a definition, basically "profiting from tax avoiding companies" could be labelled at anybody i.e. I once flogged some second hand stuff on Amazon, thus I am involved with tax avoiders..
OK, now is the time for May to make a big, open offer to moderate, sensible Labour members to jump ship. Kendall, Chuka, Tristram... We'd even take Woodward back. Maybe.
Pre-empt the Lab split by getting some of their better people to join a decent, centrist Tory administration - it would be a stroke of genius.
May could do that but then IDS, Patterson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tebbit, Cash etc would then swiftly move to UKIP in response
OK, now is the time for May to make a big, open offer to moderate, sensible Labour members to jump ship. Kendall, Chuka, Tristram... We'd even take Woodward back. Maybe.
Pre-empt the Lab split by getting some of their better people to join a decent, centrist Tory administration - it would be a stroke of genius.
May could do that but then IDS, Patterson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tebbit, Cash etc would then swiftly move to UKIP in response
No they wouldn't. There will be very few moves to UKIP now from the right.
Disagree, if May agrees EEA/EFTA the likes of Cash and Patterson and IDS could be off to UKIP like a rocket, certainly with Labour now effectively redundant as a real opposition to the May government
Nah, the Tory eurosceptic right will now be pretty content - the sovereignty issue is settled as far as they're concerned. I doubt they regard the whole EEFTA/FoM thing as anything other than an esoteric quibble. They certainly won't be losing their safe Tory seats over it.
Cash and Patterson and IDS and Rees-Mogg are firmly anti freedom of movement and the seats they represent, rural market town and Essex border are hardly likely to switch to UKIP with them if they defect
If the gentlemen you mention didn't defect to UKIP when the Holy Grail of Brexit was still in the balance, they're not going to do so just to comfort a few xenophobes. Move on! UKIP is just so 2014...
The Tories were promising a referendum then, if the referendum is won and Brexit in their view not fully delivered and a weak Labour party enables some form of political realignment I would not rule anything out
@Independent: Exclusive: Theresa May’s husband is senior executive at a $1.4tn hedge fund that profits from tax avoiding companies https://t.co/6A4XGC3QUQ
Labour will be all over this.
oh, wait...
They are really stretching with that tweet...
Capital is like Fidelity - it's not a hedge fund
And the "profits from tax avoiding companies" is because they have shares in Amazon and Starbucks
There is stretching, then there is total bollocks. Given that wide a definition, basically "profiting from tax avoiding companies" could be labelled at anybody.
With Labour my concern there's been all this crazy build up and yet, somehow, it'll return to relatively mundane normality before too long. I'm not sure I can go back to that, my political diet is now hardened to require proper red met political craziness.
IMO Corbyn now has to stand on a ticket of mandatory reselection for all MPs.
Do you mean if he wins the contest Labour then should go into a full party reselection process? All MP's....?
Holy crap!
Yes. Corbyn has lost the support of MPs of all political views. Left, Right, Blairite, Brownite, soft left, Blue Labour etc. Obviously all of these people are just 'wrong'. Consequently, the Labour party will become uniformly Corbynite. Unlike any other political party, Labour will cease to be a board church of views. Only Corbynism will be tolerated. It was always going to be this way as many Corbynites I've spoken to cannot deal with disagreement on any subject whatsoever.
The hard left only needed to get the upper hand once. Now it has it will change the rules to ensure it never relinquishes it. As you say by 2020 it will be a 90% Corbynite party, everyone else will have left or been forced out. As a member till fairly recently I hope it is a pyrrhic victory and Labour end up with under 100 MPs at the next GE.
It'll certainly be under 200. And in a lonely corner of the Rochdale count someone will be mumbling "Eagles would have done worse" :-)
Labour has just put out an amended press release, with a cut-off date of 12 January - the party previously said it would be February (see below).
Its general secretary Iain McNicol recently said 129,726 people had joined since the EU Referendum - these people will not be able to vote (unless they pay an extra £25).
There is going to be merry hell to pay on this decision. You joined last week and now they are asking for another £25!
So all the Labour whips have resigned which makes the SNP the official opposition unless Corbyn can find some new ones by tomorrow right?
But he already ran out of people to appoint to the shadow ministerial team, there are still vacancies. And he can't get shadow ministers to double up as whips, because whips can't speak in the chamber.
What is his way out? Change some shadow ministers to whips and get other shadow ministers to double up?
Skinner will come forward as will Ronnie Campbell.
How many whips are needed to satisfy the speaker? Just one?
Oh, for goodness sake! All this wailing and gnashing of teeth, and from some who are old enough to know better is a bit pathetic.
Labour as a party is not going to die. I very much doubt it will split. It may well lose the 2020 general election but then the Conservatives lost three GEs in a row before they found their feet again and started to appeal to people outside their core vote.
Foot kept Labour ahead of the SDP in second place, I would not be so certain Corbyn can hold off UKIP. The Tories got rid of IDS in 2003 before the LDs became a real threat, Labour are about to re-elect Corbyn
Mr. HYFUD, if UKIP is to survive, let alone become a real threat to Labour it has going to have to change and change quite quickly. Farage has done it a huge favour now that his task is complete but I think there will be a battle for what sort of Party it should become.
I think the chances of it morphing into a party that will appeal to the Northern Cities are rather lower than it fading away. After all the Party was set up with one goal in mind that has been achieved, why should it continue and who is going to pay for it?
It will continue focusing on an anti immigration, nationalist, traditionalist platform, especially if May agrees to some form of free movement. Funding will come from the likes of Leave.EU's Aaron Banks who has a net worth of £250 million and promised to pour money into the party if May won the Tory leadership
Take your point on funding, but I am not sure that focusing on immigration, nationalism and tradition will be enough to win seats, though. But we shall see.
Against Corbyn Labour in northern and midlands working class towns and against May's Tories in Essex and Kent I would say UKIP have an excellent chance of picking up seats
Gosh, I so much want to say, "Want to bet?" But let common sense prevail it is too far away and too much will happen in the interim.
The only problem with that is UKIP itself - it is not an effective party at the "ground game". This is not me being rude about them. It is simply an observation of what has happened in the past.
Transforming UKIP into a party that can win parliamentary seats will take a very large amount of work. The question is who can lead the party in that direction?
That's not necessarily true. GrassrootsOut have a huge database of possible voters post Brexit
Do I have this right? I have paid £60 to be a full Labour party member, but don't get a vote in the leadership election; however, if I pay another £25 I can? Doesn't make much sense, but if those are the rules I'll abide.
Going to be a race to see who resigns first: you or Falconer....
No, I'll pay the £25.
I imagine the trots and Kippers will also be stumping up £25?
IMO Corbyn now has to stand on a ticket of mandatory reselection for all MPs.
Do you mean if he wins the contest Labour then should go into a full party reselection process? All MP's....?
Holy crap!
Yes. Corbyn has lost the support of MPs of all political views. Left, Right, Blairite, Brownite, soft left, Blue Labour etc. Obviously all of these people are just 'wrong'. Consequently, the Labour party will become uniformly Corbynite. Unlike any other political party, Labour will cease to be a board church of views. Only Corbynism will be tolerated. It was always going to be this way as many Corbynites I've spoken to cannot deal with disagreement on any subject whatsoever.
The hard left only needed to get the upper hand once. Now it has it will change the rules to ensure it never relinquishes it. As you say by 2020 it will be a 90% Corbynite party, everyone else will have left or been forced out. As a member till fairly recently I hope it is a pyrrhic victory and Labour end up with under 100 MPs at the next GE.
It'll certainly be under 200. And in a lonely corner of the Rochdale count someone will be mumbling "Eagles would have done worse" :-)
Contrived outrage in all honesty. It's quite normal. Labour routinely operates freeze dates for selections for the likes of local government elections. You can join and vote in leadership elections in due course, just don't join a few weeks before a leadership election for the purpose of influencing it.
Yep, it's fair enough.
Well it is - except for the inconvenient fact that you can temporarily join before a leadership election for the purpose of influencing it!
The thing is from when we see all these protests etc, loads of them are the Tarquins and Tabatha's of this world. £25 no problem, they might have to ask daddy for an advance on their allowance though.
OK, now is the time for May to make a big, open offer to moderate, sensible Labour members to jump ship. Kendall, Chuka, Tristram... We'd even take Woodward back. Maybe.
Pre-empt the Lab split by getting some of their better people to join a decent, centrist Tory administration - it would be a stroke of genius.
May could do that but then IDS, Patterson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tebbit, Cash etc would then swiftly move to UKIP in response
OK, now is the time for May to make a big, open offer to moderate, sensible Labour members to jump ship. Kendall, Chuka, Tristram... We'd even take Woodward back. Maybe.
Pre-empt the Lab split by getting some of their better people to join a decent, centrist Tory administration - it would be a stroke of genius.
May could do that but then IDS, Patterson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tebbit, Cash etc would then swiftly move to UKIP in response
No they wouldn't. There will be very few moves to UKIP now from the right.
Disagree, if May agrees EEA/EFTA the likes of Cash and Patterson and IDS could be off to UKIP like a rocket, certainly with Labour now effectively redundant as a real opposition to the May government
Nah, the Tory eurosceptic right will now be pretty content - the sovereignty issue is settled as far as they're concerned. I doubt they regard the whole EEFTA/FoM thing as anything other than an esoteric quibble. They certainly won't be losing their safe Tory seats over it.
Cash and Patterson and IDS and Rees-Mogg are firmly anti freedom of movement and the seats they represent, rural market town and Essex border are hardly likely to switch to UKIP with them if they defect
If the gentlemen you mention didn't defect to UKIP when the Holy Grail of Brexit was still in the balance, they're not going to do so just to comfort a few xenophobes. Move on! UKIP is just so 2014...
The Tories were promising a referendum then, if the referendum is won and Brexit in their view not fully delivered and a weak Labour party enables some form of political realignment I would not rule anything out
I don't know why you all still talk about UKIP - they will wither and die.
There's nothing to them...their USP is gone...their leader has gone...their financial backing has gone...the euro-elections that gave them a regular sniff of the oxygen of publicity has gone...their entire reason to exist has gone
Oh, for goodness sake! All this wailing and gnashing of teeth, and from some who are old enough to know better is a bit pathetic.
Labour as a party is not going to die. I very much doubt it will split. It may well lose the 2020 general election but then the Conservatives lost three GEs in a row before they found their feet again and started to appeal to people outside their core vote.
Foot kept Labour ahead of the SDP in second place, I would not be so certain Corbyn can hold off UKIP. The Tories got rid of IDS in 2003 before the LDs became a real threat, Labour are about to re-elect Corbyn
Mr. HYFUD, if UKIP is to survive, let alone become a real threat to Labour it has going to have to change and change quite quickly. Farage has done it a huge favour now that his task is complete but I think there will be a battle for what sort
It will continue focusing on an anti immigration, nationalist, traditionalist platform, especially if May agrees to some form of free movement. Funding will come from the likes of Leave.EU's Aaron Banks who has a net worth of £250 million and promised to pour money into the party if May won the Tory leadership
Take your point on funding, but I am not sure that focusing on immigration, nationalism and tradition will be enough to win seats, though. But we shall see.
Against Corbyn Labour in northern and midlands working class towns and against May's Tories in Essex and Kent I would say UKIP have an excellent chance of picking up seats
Gosh, I so much want to say, "Want to bet?" But let common sense prevail it is too far away and too much will happen in the interim.
The only problem with that is UKIP itself - it is not an effective party at the "ground game". This is not me being rude about them. It is simply an observation of what has happened in the past.
Transforming UKIP into a party that can win parliamentary seats will take a very large amount of work. The question is who can lead the party in that direction?
That's not necessarily true. GrassrootsOut have a huge database of possible voters post Brexit
That info I believe belongs to Aaron Banks/Ukip
Yes and he has said he will use it to focus on Leave voters who may be tempted by the party
This is how the Roman circuses descended from nobles sparring to bloody mass torture. We're no longer satisfied with hum-drum, everyday politics. We need more.
I want Theresa May to vault the HoC podium, cleave Corbyn from gullet to groin while screaming "THIS. IS SPARTA". That'd see me through to the weekend.
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Clarification: cut off date for member eligibility is now 12th Jan 16.
" Founded in 1978, the club’s name was the brainchild of Reg Brealey, a friend of owner Charles Polson.
Brealey, famed for his stint as Chairman of Sheffield United in the 1980s as well as having links with his native Lincoln City, provided the club with playing kits and income through various means of sponsorship."
I suppose they have a case for claiming their money back.
This is getting very sad.
I'm happy to reveal that now Plato won't be able to take advantage of it in time.
The entire population of Gibraltar could be seated inside Celtic Park.
Twice.
Good Lord.
Thanks.
But he already ran out of people to appoint to the shadow ministerial team, there are still vacancies. And he can't get shadow ministers to double up as whips, because whips can't speak in the chamber.
What is his way out? Change some shadow ministers to whips and get other shadow ministers to double up?
(For what it's worth I think that the reformation of the Left will be a really positive thing. In the mean time though the left should at least in part join in with the new PM's vision.)
Labour has just put out an amended press release, with a cut-off date of 12 January - the party previously said it would be February (see below).
Its general secretary Iain McNicol recently said 129,726 people had joined since the EU Referendum - these people will not be able to vote (unless they pay an extra £25).
Transforming UKIP into a party that can win parliamentary seats will take a very large amount of work. The question is who can lead the party in that direction?
But she'll only Yes if TSE was the least disliked of her suitors.
Good job there were no commas involved.
But then Corbyn comes along and ruins it, because we may have seen the death of major political party for the first time in the country since the Liberals were gobbled up by Labour.
The difference in airline security between Gatwick and the US airport was stunning. Our side was much like it is now thanks to Pira. Coming home from US was stunned when my -non flying- US then Girlfriend was able to come and sit in the departure lounge with me. The international departure lounge was the one with the metal detector hoop where you got on the plane and the man checking passports. The internal ones (most of them) just had plane staff to check tickets.
I thought at the time that they were a bit naive. Unfortunately I wasnt the only one to notice this.
Labour Party Membership
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait-and-switch
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That info I believe belongs to Aaron Banks/Ukip
These 20 year old Corbynistas don't seem to care about winning, they'd rather be ideologically pure than win.
What has happened to the ruthless party of Blair, Campbell, and Mandelson?
Voting in this election is like choosing your method of execution. Hanging with Mr Corbyn or lethal injection with Ms Eagle?
There's nothing to them...their USP is gone...their leader has gone...their financial backing has gone...the euro-elections that gave them a regular sniff of the oxygen of publicity has gone...their entire reason to exist has gone
I want Theresa May to vault the HoC podium, cleave Corbyn from gullet to groin while screaming "THIS. IS SPARTA". That'd see me through to the weekend.
Don't forget the role of Philip Gould who taught them all about the centre ground, aspirational middle england, focus groups and so on.