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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Hmmmmmmmmm how divided are we as a nation now?
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    WandererWanderer Posts: 3,838

    Worth noting among all the focus on the North East that Clackmannanshire was bang in line with par

    Bit under, now? 16% gap vs 18?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    No i mean it is the bellwether.
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    ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819
    I'm sticking for the moment at 52-48. I have a feeling middle class areas (including middle class tory areas) will be equally as heavily for remain. This could just mean the country is even more divided than we realised.

    Or maybe i'm deluding myself!

    Anyway, can we now go to sleep until about 2am?

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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    glw said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    The world is clearly ending - sound of pneumatic drilling outside my window now. And here was me worrying my TV would bother the neighbours...

    Someone digging a bomb shelter?

    Absolutely. http://www.for-sale.co.uk/anderson-shelter :lol:
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835

    Pulpstar said:

    Seriously who the F*ck was buying sterling today ??

    All the wide boys with their secret polling showing upto 10% Remain lead.
    A prize for the biggest fund/organisation to blow up tomorrow?
    The punishment beatings will be on a bigger scale than anything even Osborne could dream up.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    rcs1000 said:

    London should still put Remain over; London's biiiiiig.

    It's the big question isn't it: 60:40 for Remain in London, Scotland, NI...

    makes it very, very close

    Robert, 60:40 with a 60% turnout may lose it for Remain. The same with a 70% turnout would win it for them.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,100
    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 1m1 minute ago
    Highland authority Counting Agent escorted from the building for... drinking too much.
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,053
    Pulpstar said:

    Seriously who the F*ck was buying sterling today ??

    I bought 10k's worth of Euros yesterday, just in case.
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    MP_SE said:

    Danny565 said:

    Has the Remain Campaign now officially usurped Andy Burnham's 2015 leadership bid as the worst election campaign in history?

    The Leave campaign was really terrible.
    As a Leaver I will admit that the Leave campaign was not great. And Farage's poster with the migrants... deary me. If Leave lose nationally by a percent or so, well..
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    Wanderer said:

    surbiton said:

    Mortimer said:
    He is putting his reputation on the line after Newcastle and Sunderland. However, we have to consider these are from the same part of the country. No equivalent results from anywhere else.
    Yes, though Clackwhatever wasn't great for Remain either.
    Still points to at least 60:40 for Scotland. Most Remain friendly bits still to come, and both results so far have beaten that.

    Good news on low Scottish turnout, mind.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    glw said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    The world is clearly ending - sound of pneumatic drilling outside my window now. And here was me worrying my TV would bother the neighbours...

    Someone digging a bomb shelter?

    Lol!
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281
    God, I love election nights on PB.
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    dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Cam thanks supporters
    GAME OVER :'-)
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079

    London should still put Remain over; London's biiiiiig.

    The North West is big too. Not going to be close in the North West.
    For who ?
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    YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    edited June 2016

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    What this shows is how out of touch Labour have become with their own voters on the ground. 40% Labour leave looks likely.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Wanderer said:

    Worth noting among all the focus on the North East that Clackmannanshire was bang in line with par

    Bit under, now? 16% gap vs 18?
    Yes on Hanretty's figures though of course they have a confidence interval. London will have to be the cavalry for Remain.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 1m1 minute ago
    Highland authority Counting Agent escorted from the building for... drinking too much.

    Well got to live up to stereotype...
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    Paging MarqueeMark - feelings on middle Devonians?
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 1m1 minute ago
    Highland authority Counting Agent escorted from the building for... drinking too much.

    Good ol' Scotland.
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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    Danny565 said:

    Has the Remain Campaign now officially usurped Andy Burnham's 2015 leadership bid as the worst election campaign in history?

    NI21 were EPIC. Beat anything else hands down I reckon. The longest suicide note, the Edstone, Burnham's leadership bid have got nothing on the NI21 self-combustion.

    Burnham's Manc mayoral bid may yet usurp them.
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,061
    Wobble bottoms
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    Broxbourne she said, IIRC.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    edited June 2016

    MP_SE said:

    Danny565 said:

    Has the Remain Campaign now officially usurped Andy Burnham's 2015 leadership bid as the worst election campaign in history?

    The Leave campaign was really terrible.
    As a Leaver I will admit that the Leave campaign was not great. And Farage's poster with the migrants... deary me. If Leave lose nationally by a percent or so, well..
    On the other hand you could say it was a great campaign because it got so close to getting over the line when Cam & Co a few months back were assuming a walkover.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,977
    VERN!
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    She was talking about BroxBOURNE.
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    MontyHallMontyHall Posts: 226
    edited June 2016
    What price is Boris next PM?
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    edited June 2016
    I work for an exporter. Virtually no EU exports.

    Guessing that is quite good !
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    glwglw Posts: 9,583

    Hmmmmmmmmm how divided are we as a nation now?

    Ever seen the Grand Canyon?
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    OUTOUT Posts: 569
    edited June 2016
    Never mind
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:

    Tamworth will be interesting. Right in the middle of England.

    What was the 50:50 centre for Clackmannanshire on your s/s? 58:42 pretty good for leave I thought?
    My spreadsheet it pretty simple, but I had Clacks as 56:44 - not the best for Leave in Scotland, but one of the better areas.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,311
    RobD said:

    Is SeanT busy selling his flat? :D

    I'll offer him 100 trillion dollars.

    Zimbabwean dollars.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Angela Eagle sounding even more miserable than usual!!
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    Angela eagle oozes charisma doesnt she
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,717

    I'm sticking for the moment at 52-48. I have a feeling middle class areas (including middle class tory areas) will be equally as heavily for remain. This could just mean the country is even more divided than we realised.

    Or maybe i'm deluding myself!

    Anyway, can we now go to sleep until about 2am?

    I cling to the same hope, plus a disbelief that all the national polls could be so wrong, once again. But you have to say that the snippets of rumour coming in from the likes of Broxtowe and Crawley don't sound particularly encouraging. The markets tomorrow are going to be a bloodbath if it continues like this
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,674
    Angela Eagle looks shellshocked
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    OUT said:

    What was the Clacks prediction on those spreadsheets?

    Take your pick of Remain at 56, 58 or 61
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835
    edited June 2016

    God, I love election nights on PB.

    I think GE2010 was the best. Some really good banter. Last year, I think people were all in too much shock, just pointing for hours at the tv....mouths open going WHHHHATTTTTT....
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Sterling down 6%

    @arthistorynews: If Brexit can do this in 5 minutes, imagine what it can achieve in a year. https://t.co/GN1BG4VAz8
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    I'm sticking for the moment at 52-48. I have a feeling middle class areas (including middle class tory areas) will be equally as heavily for remain. This could just mean the country is even more divided than we realised.

    Or maybe i'm deluding myself!

    Anyway, can we now go to sleep until about 2am?

    The problem for Remain is that the high middle class vote will have been picked up in the polls. What they will have weighted down was the WWC votes through their turnout models.

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    RealBritainRealBritain Posts: 255
    Next to declare - is who ?
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820

    Ave_it said:

    All the southern LAB areas will be REMAIN so it's still REMAIN!

    What Southern Lab areas?
    London?
    Yeah, but London bears little resemblance to Sunderland.

    Whilst it's certainly looking very good for Leave, we don't yet have a wide spread of different types of area, so some caution is advisable before waking up the butler to ask for the whisky and revolver..
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    DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    I must have missed that. Would be big news, but was only supposed to be a 4-5 point remain anyway.
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    It is my experience that University staff are likely to have not bothered turning out to vote. Far too comfortable. This referendum has brought out those who do not have that comfortable lifestyle.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:

    Tamworth will be interesting. Right in the middle of England.

    What was the 50:50 centre for Clackmannanshire on your s/s? 58:42 pretty good for leave I thought?
    My spreadsheet it pretty simple, but I had Clacks as 56:44 - not the best for Leave in Scotland, but one of the better areas.
    I thought it would be a bit more remain than that, hopefully Scotland not turned out too much!

    Angela Eagle sounding increasingly bitter!
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    edited June 2016
    Mortimer said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Broxtowe

    Did Laura K say Broxtowe was looking Leave??
    If true, that is serious for Remain. Broxtowe has lots of Notts University lecturers and professors.

    I can hardly believe it, though. The Universities are one of the big winners from the EU.

    If Broxtowe is Leave, it is all over, IMHO.
    Broxbourne she said, IIRC.
    PB commenters kept making that mistake last year too...
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    RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Big Picture: Four out of Four declarations have been better for LEAVE, by margins between 2.6% and 16.5%
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    OUT said:

    Never mind

    In line with the result.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080
    How do we think Dave's night is going? Imodium on stand-bye? :smiley:
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Pulpstar said:

    London should still put Remain over; London's biiiiiig.

    The North West is big too. Not going to be close in the North West.
    For who ?
    Leave. If the North West was 50/50 then the UK would be a Remain landslide.
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    YellowSubmarineYellowSubmarine Posts: 2,740
    All the Remain politicians now have awful body language. Complete flip from 2hrs ago.
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    Eagle running the same old lines with party politics which dont work.
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281
    Crikey, Angela Eagle can barely string a sentence together. This is someone in the Shadow Cabinet.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,753
    Anybody any idea who's next? Some of us have work in the morning.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    Angela - BOTH campaigns were an utter shambles.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    DanSmith said:

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
    We need 60:40 (at least) for Leave.
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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    Farage losing his rag with Burley.

    Really, I mean really, who gives a shit? Farage has done his job. He got the referendum that he wanted he has played his part, as best as he could, in the campaign, which is now over.

    Farage is now as relevant to the UK political scene as Lord Salisbury.

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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    hunchman said:

    Angela Eagle sounding even more miserable than usual!!

    She really is a miserable sod. Her constant whining is very tiresome.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835
    GIN1138 said:

    How do we think Dave's night is going? Imodium on stand-bye? :smiley:

    Currently smoking more than John Wayne ever did....
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited June 2016
    OUT said:

    Clackers

    60.6 Remain.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,674

    Crikey, Angela Eagle can barely string a sentence together. This is someone in the Shadow Cabinet.

    She is getting excuses in already. She comes across as being absolutely devastated
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    AndyJS said:
    Massive if so.

    This Angela Eagle rant should be played over and over!!
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited June 2016
    AndyJS said:
    They have no clue what is going to happen, which is why they were sounding so up themselves just a few hours ago.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    Angela Eagles - Glad I have her laid for next leader !
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Angela Eagle blaming it on Tory cuts.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Vernon Bogdanor looking very crestfallen!
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    tysontyson Posts: 6,053
    rcs1000 said:

    DanSmith said:

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
    We need 60:40 (at least) for Leave.
    They'll vote for a monkey, so doubtless they'll vote for Leave en masse

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    JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488
    Scott_P said:

    Sterling down 6%

    @arthistorynews: If Brexit can do this in 5 minutes, imagine what it can achieve in a year. https://t.co/GN1BG4VAz8

    It would bounce back though. No need for scaremongering now the campaign's over. Government needs wise heads to steady the ship.
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:
    Massive if so.

    This Angela Eagle rant should be played over and over!!
    If thats the case, labour lost the referendum.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,717
    Well someone is still buying £ because 40% of the fall has been recovered in the past few minutes
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,080
    Angela looks upset...
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    Why is leave still 3.4 ?!
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835

    Angela Eagle blaming it on Tory cuts.

    Sorry you what....what have cuts got to do with the EU? We aren't Greece....
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    LucyJonesLucyJones Posts: 651
    AndyJS said:
    Did Eurosceptic Corbyn win it for Leave in the end?

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    LowlanderLowlander Posts: 941
    rcs1000 said:

    OUT said:

    What was the Clacks prediction on those spreadsheets?

    Take your pick of Remain at 56, 58 or 61
    Surely the low turnout in Clacks pushes down its benefit to Remain?
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 56,407
    Scott_P said:

    Sterling down 6%

    @arthistorynews: If Brexit can do this in 5 minutes, imagine what it can achieve in a year. https://t.co/GN1BG4VAz8

    Why push the attack lines now? Vote is over.

    Up to all of us to make this work now.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    hunchman said:

    rcs1000 said:

    hunchman said:

    AndyJS said:

    Tamworth will be interesting. Right in the middle of England.

    What was the 50:50 centre for Clackmannanshire on your s/s? 58:42 pretty good for leave I thought?
    My spreadsheet it pretty simple, but I had Clacks as 56:44 - not the best for Leave in Scotland, but one of the better areas.
    I thought it would be a bit more remain than that, hopefully Scotland not turned out too much!

    Angela Eagle sounding increasingly bitter!
    It'll be interesting to see Western Isles and Borders.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,079
    tyson said:

    rcs1000 said:

    DanSmith said:

    Next to declare - is who ?

    Hartlepool?
    We need 60:40 (at least) for Leave.
    They'll vote for a monkey, so doubtless they'll vote for Leave en masse

    They hung a monkey !
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    Pulpstar said:

    Why is leave still 3.4 ?!

    Probably because we still have had only a handful of possibly unrepresentative results.
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    JennyFreemanJennyFreeman Posts: 488

    Ave_it said:

    All the southern LAB areas will be REMAIN so it's still REMAIN!

    What Southern Lab areas?
    London?
    Yeah, but London bears little resemblance to Sunderland.

    Whilst it's certainly looking very good for Leave, we don't yet have a wide spread of different types of area, so some caution is advisable before waking up the butler to ask for the whisky and revolver..
    This is true.

    But but but it's the Labour Leave here that could be crucial. If so:

    It's the Sun Wot Won It

    :-)
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,835
    edited June 2016
    IanB2 said:

    Well someone is still buying £ because 40% of the fall has been recovered in the past few minutes

    Better than expected early signs for Remain elsewhere?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BKAshcroft: It looks to me that Leave has won it: rocky times ahead for the Scottish and rest of UK economies. Mark my words.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    BBC at North Warwickshire: Leave vote much stronger than expected. 70/30 Leave.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,449
    I think Leave have done this.
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    BBC lady from North Warwickshire saying leave vote much stronger than expected. 70:30 leave WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    EPGEPG Posts: 6,165
    Cameron's legacy ;D
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    CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    BBC reporters close to tears.

    I'm ROFLing my way across the floor..
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,713
    North warwickshire looking good for leave!!!
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    North Warwickshire - Leave vote much stronger than expected.
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    StarfallStarfall Posts: 78

    Angela Eagle blaming it on Tory cuts.

    My God Labour are in a sorry state.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Pulpstar said:

    Why is leave still 3.4 ?!

    Now sub 3.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    This has feelings of shock and disbelief that mirror May 2015. If there was an accurate Exit Poll then you kind of get the feeling now that Exit Poll would have shown a shock Leave Win at 10pm with everyone now saying "I'll eat my hat" etc
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,674
    Warwickshire - guessing 70/30 in favour of leave.

    If that comes even near, we are leaving. No question. We're out.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 39,493
    Just discovered that a friend is having her baby tomorrow (by Cesarean) earlier than expected.

    One of the first Brexit babies?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Why push the attack lines now? .

    It's not an attack line. It was never an attack line
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    GravitationGravitation Posts: 281
    Wow. North Warwickshire rumoured on the BBC 70-30 Leave. Expected 60-40.
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    MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Wow. BBC employees are going into meltdown.
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