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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936
    SeanT said:

    Looks like that last rumour was true

    ICM website is down.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,247
    We've not done this since those happy days of the daily polls from Yougov before the election. How I miss that nonsense. EICIPM. Delusional but great.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,152
    DavidL said:

    AnneJGP said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Labour just do not have an answer to the immigration question.

    Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse
    Gordon Brown brought in to re-launch remain campaign, ends up picking fights with The Sun and BBC. Way to go.

    Does Brown have much appeal outside Scotland?
    Ahem. Couple of surplus words there.
    I was going to say I'd not noticed his appeal here. Perhaps it's in Kirkaldy.
    Maybe

    Whit wey does the engine say 'Toot-toot'?
    Is it feart to gang in the tunnel?
    Whit wey is the furnace no pit oot
    When the rain gangs doon the funnel?
    What'll I hae for my tea the nicht?
    A herrin', or maybe a haddie?
    Has Gran'ma gotten electric licht?
    Is the next stop Kirkcaddy?
    There's a hoodie-craw on yon turnip-raw!
    An' seagulls! - sax or seeven.
    I'll no fa' oot o' the windae, Maw,
    Its sneckit, as sure as I'm leevin'.
    We're into the tunnel! we're a' in the dark!
    But dinna be frichtit, Daddy,
    We'll sune be comin' to Beveridge Park,
    And the next stop's Kirkcaddy!

    Is yon the mune I see in the sky?
    It's awfu' wee an' curly,
    See! there's a coo and a cauf ootbye,
    An' a lassie pu'in' a hurly!
    He's chackit the tickets and gien them back,
    Sae gie me my ain yin, Daddy.
    Lift doon the bag frae the luggage rack,
    For the next stop's Kirkcaddy!

    There's a gey wheen boats at the harbour mou',
    And eh! dae ya see the cruisers?
    The cinnamon drop I was sookin' the noo
    Has tummelt an' stuck tae ma troosers. . .
    I'll sune be ringin' ma Gran'ma's bell,
    She'll cry, 'Come ben, my laddie',
    For I ken mysel' by the queer-like smell
    That the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
    That's lovely. :smile:
    The queer-like smell wasn't Gordon Brown but the huge linoleum works that used to dominate the front of Kirkcaldy. I can just about remember it but its all gone now.
    Interesting, I thought perhaps it was referring to a mixture of sea/fish/seaweed etc.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,344
    Wow the poll waiting is still going. I shut PB off to do some work and we're still waiting!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    What's more exciting?

    Base jumping, or waiting for an ICM poll?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,001
    SeanT said:

    Looks like that last rumour was true

    Latest rumour is that the rumour is true.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    We all know someone is going to say outlier ...
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    Pound is tanking
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,247
    AnneJGP said:

    DavidL said:

    AnneJGP said:

    DavidL said:

    DavidL said:

    Labour just do not have an answer to the immigration question.

    Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse
    Gordon Brown brought in to re-launch remain campaign, ends up picking fights with The Sun and BBC. Way to go.

    Does Brown have much appeal outside Scotland?
    Ahem. Couple of surplus words there.
    I was going to say I'd not noticed his appeal here. Perhaps it's in Kirkaldy.
    Maybe

    Whit wey does the engine say 'Toot-toot'?
    Is it feart to gang in the tunnel?
    Whit wey is the furnace no pit oot
    When the rain gangs doon the funnel?
    What'll I hae for my tea the nicht?
    A herrin', or maybe a haddie?
    Has Gran'ma gotten electric licht?
    Is the next stop Kirkcaddy?
    There's a hoodie-craw on yon turnip-raw!
    An' seagulls! - sax or seeven.
    I'll no fa' oot o' the windae, Maw,
    Its sneckit, as sure as I'm leevin'.
    We're into the tunnel! we're a' in the dark!
    But dinna be frichtit, Daddy,
    We'll sune be comin' to Beveridge Park,
    And the next stop's Kirkcaddy!

    Is yon the mune I see in the sky?
    It's awfu' wee an' curly,
    See! there's a coo and a cauf ootbye,
    An' a lassie pu'in' a hurly!
    He's chackit the tickets and gien them back,
    Sae gie me my ain yin, Daddy.
    Lift doon the bag frae the luggage rack,
    For the next stop's Kirkcaddy!

    There's a gey wheen boats at the harbour mou',
    And eh! dae ya see the cruisers?
    The cinnamon drop I was sookin' the noo
    Has tummelt an' stuck tae ma troosers. . .
    I'll sune be ringin' ma Gran'ma's bell,
    She'll cry, 'Come ben, my laddie',
    For I ken mysel' by the queer-like smell
    That the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
    That's lovely. :smile:
    The queer-like smell wasn't Gordon Brown but the huge linoleum works that used to dominate the front of Kirkcaldy. I can just about remember it but its all gone now.
    Interesting, I thought perhaps it was referring to a mixture of sea/fish/seaweed etc.
    No it was very distinctive. When I was at school I played for the FPs in a chess match at the factory but even then it was a pale shadow of its former glory. Linoleum was to Kirkcaldy what Jute was to Dundee.

  • Boomberg: "ICM analyst says ‘everyone needs to calm down a bit"

    Easier said than done mate!
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    ICM win the title of prickteasers of the referendum so far.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270

    What's more exciting?

    Base jumping, or waiting for an ICM poll?

    If you are Cameron and Osborne, this is base jumping without a 'chute...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,451
    Did we just crash PB's server? ;)
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936
    RoyalBlue said:

    Pound is tanking

    It really isn't.
  • SeanT said:

    Looks like that last rumour was true

    Latest rumour is that the rumour is true.
    Does that mean the pre-penultimate one was wrong, or at least partially wrong?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 64,150

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Tuscany in July - and I have bought all my euros at 1.26
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    Dam might be breaking..

    Patrick Wintour
    Patrick Wintour‏ @patrickwintour

    Senior Labour figures backing Remain will argue Cameron EU migrant deal is insufficient & new direct controls on economic migration required
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,247
    Looks like it is time to just give up at the cricket. What a frustrating day.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    @TSE this could be the moment to discuss the groundrules for your AV thread.
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    rcs1000 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Pound is tanking

    It really isn't.
    Allow me a poetic flourish while I wait!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Brussels. For a laugh.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    I'm going to hang around outside ICM's headquarters...
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    rcs1000 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Pound is tanking

    It really isn't.
    How much do Bloomberg terminals cost?
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    rcs1000 said:

    ooohhhh oohhh one minute


    Robert - Will the PB site crash tooooooooooo...................?
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited June 2016

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Somewhere in Europe. Nice and easy to travel there ;)
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,944
    I guess that a rumour, if believed, could move prices and make someone some money?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    Wintour‏ @patrickwintour
    @brox60 Agree. If Tusk wants to save western civilisation, EU has to move on free movement, a principle invented for an EU of 6 states
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,786
    This is one of those days which will live in PB memory for sure.
  • BannedInParisBannedInParis Posts: 2,191

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Marseille.

    -_-
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936
    Mortimer said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Pound is tanking

    It really isn't.
    How much do Bloomberg terminals cost?
    $24,000/year for the base service, plus exchange fees. It works out close to $28,000 in total.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Marseille.

    -_-
    Donald Trump is paying a hefty wedge towards my jolly across the USA.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Yeah. Thailand in two and half weeks.

    Can't wait.
  • GIN1138 said:

    Did we just crash PB's server? ;)

    Yes, I left for a few minutes and couldn't get back on. Wild horses wouldn't get me to make that mistake again!
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Marseille.

    -_-
    Donald Trump is paying a hefty wedge towards my jolly across the USA.
    Until we tell him your a Muslim....
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341

    Dam might be breaking..

    Patrick Wintour
    Patrick Wintour‏ @patrickwintour

    Senior Labour figures backing Remain will argue Cameron EU migrant deal is insufficient & new direct controls on economic migration required

    They must be getting some shocking responses on the doorstep if that is true.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited June 2016

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Marseille.

    -_-
    You must have missed the "anywhere nice" part.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    rcs1000 said:

    Mortimer said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    Pound is tanking

    It really isn't.
    How much do Bloomberg terminals cost?
    $24,000/year for the base service, plus exchange fees. It works out close to $28,000 in total.
    Ta.

    I definitely can't justify that just for interest's sake....
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    A Evans-PritchardVerified account ‏@AmbroseEP 1m1 minute ago
    Guardian ICM Brexit poll. Remain ahead by 8 pts in phone survey, behind 4 pts online. Online sample twice as big

    Then he links to May 16th

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/phone-poll-finds-10-point-lead-for-remain-but-web-survey-puts-leave-ahead-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    How's the weather outside? :D
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    We could all play I Spy
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,554
    SeanT said:

    Dam might be breaking..

    Patrick Wintour
    Patrick Wintour‏ @patrickwintour

    Senior Labour figures backing Remain will argue Cameron EU migrant deal is insufficient & new direct controls on economic migration required

    Is this The Vow? How do they do it?
    Even if he could, which he can't, would anybody believe him?
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    ICM?

    No, I C NOPOLLS
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,890
    ICM

    It's Creating Mayhem.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 11,048

    We could all play I Spy

    Something beginning with P?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    SeanT said:

    Dam might be breaking..

    Patrick Wintour
    Patrick Wintour‏ @patrickwintour

    Senior Labour figures backing Remain will argue Cameron EU migrant deal is insufficient & new direct controls on economic migration required

    Is this The Vow? How do they do it?
    No idea, and I don't believe it.

    I'm voting Leave whatever happens. But I do believe if the EU and HMG really believe Brexit might be about to happen they will say or pledge something, anything, to swing just enough votes to stop it happening.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,247

    We could all play I Spy

    Ehh...I think I detect a problem with that. What can you see?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Pulpstar said:

    A Evans-PritchardVerified account ‏@AmbroseEP 1m1 minute ago
    Guardian ICM Brexit poll. Remain ahead by 8 pts in phone survey, behind 4 pts online. Online sample twice as big

    Then he links to May 16th

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/phone-poll-finds-10-point-lead-for-remain-but-web-survey-puts-leave-ahead-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Glad that's been clarified.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    ICM = :trollface:
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    Pulpstar said:

    A Evans-PritchardVerified account ‏@AmbroseEP 1m1 minute ago
    Guardian ICM Brexit poll. Remain ahead by 8 pts in phone survey, behind 4 pts online. Online sample twice as big

    Then he links to May 16th

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/16/phone-poll-finds-10-point-lead-for-remain-but-web-survey-puts-leave-ahead-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw

    same mistake OGH made
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    RobD said:

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    How's the weather outside? :D
    Raining.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    oh, mustn't grumble...
  • Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Yeah. Thailand in two and half weeks.

    Can't wait.
    Are you expecting to meet up there with SeanT in the *cough* local bars?
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    edited June 2016
    DavidL said:

    We could all play I Spy

    Ehh...I think I detect a problem with that. What can you see?
    Something beginning with P maybe

    Oops sorry Omnium you beat me to it.
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    online poll 44% remain 49 leave
    phone 45 remain 50 leave

    Source Zero hedge
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270
    Freggles said:

    ICM = :trollface:

    In Number 10 it stands for I'm Crapping Myself.....
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Marseille.

    -_-
    :lol:
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,432

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Orlando and Canada in less than a fortnight, hopefully
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    RobD said:

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    How's the weather outside? :D
    Remaining
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    SeanT said:

    oh just fucking tell us


    It's not as if the figures will be correct even for today, let alone for June 23rd.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,247

    DavidL said:

    We could all play I Spy

    Ehh...I think I detect a problem with that. What can you see?
    Something beginning with P maybe
    LOL
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936
    I think that's a Photoshop
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,786
    NoEasyDay said:

    online poll 44% remain 49 leave
    phone 45 remain 50 leave

    Source Zero hedge

    those are just old rumours.
  • We were promised markrt meltdown by Dave. We got market comedy Gold
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936
    NoEasyDay said:

    online poll 44% remain 49 leave
    phone 45 remain 50 leave

    Source Zero hedge

    That's been quoted about 40 times but it's all from one source who says he's seen it, so could easily be shit.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,270

    NoEasyDay said:

    online poll 44% remain 49 leave
    phone 45 remain 50 leave

    Source Zero hedge

    those are just old rumours.
    we need new rumours....
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726

    Anyone going anywhere nice this year?

    Orlando and Canada in less than a fortnight, hopefully
    That's what you think
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    begging the question we all need to know the answer to now:

    When will the actual result be announced, post Jun 23?
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    cu t and pasted this time to avoid my shite typing

    May ICM poll:

    Online Poll: 43% Remain, 47% Leave
    Phone Poll: 47% Remain, 39% Leave
    And the latest from ICM:

    Online Poll: 44 remain, 49% Leave
    Phone Poll: 45% remain; 50% Leave
    According to Twitter:
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,261
    chestnut said:

    Dam might be breaking..

    Patrick Wintour
    Patrick Wintour‏ @patrickwintour

    Senior Labour figures backing Remain will argue Cameron EU migrant deal is insufficient & new direct controls on economic migration required

    They must be getting some shocking responses on the doorstep if that is true.
    This is why we have a democracy.

    You only get meaningful change when the voters totally force it.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    There is only so long a bookseller can appear to be busy.

    3 hours without picking up a book is just a bad signal to the staff...
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I think that's a Photoshop

    Is it?

    Why is this so weirdly exciting?
    This is breaking news in the raw, doesn't happen very often.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,344
    Never trust zero hedge.
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    NoEasyDay said:

    cu t and pasted this time to avoid my shite typing

    May ICM poll:

    Online Poll: 43% Remain, 47% Leave
    Phone Poll: 47% Remain, 39% Leave
    And the latest from ICM:

    Online Poll: 44 remain, 49% Leave
    Phone Poll: 45% remain; 50% Leave
    According to Twitter:

    You should have started that post with the way you ended it. Would have saved my eyeballs 10 seconds of reading.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    DanSmith said:

    SeanT said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I think that's a Photoshop

    Is it?

    Why is this so weirdly exciting?
    This is breaking news in the raw, doesn't happen very often.
    And then he looked around him and all was well with the world.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Lol

    Moody Slayer
    ICM poll:
    (Phone) Remain 85%, Leave 15%.
    (Online) Remain 7%, Leave 93%.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    I heard a rumour that a new rumour would be released at 17.16
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    TOPPING said:

    begging the question we all need to know the answer to now:

    When will the actual result be announced, post Jun 23?

    August? And they will probably say they have changed the methodology
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112
    weejonnie said:

    I heard a rumour that a new rumour would be released at 17.16

    Ridiculous rumour. Scaremongering at its worst*.

    *best
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    SeanT said:

    I'm bored. We haven't had an absurd rumour for a third of a minute


    Rumour:

    Leave 120%
    Remain -20%


    2nd Rumour:

    MikeK was only respondent.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170
    Freggles said:

    ICM = :trollface:

    Legitimate use of troll face.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Adam Boulton ‏@adamboultonSKY 2m2 minutes ago

    No idea what ICM poll says (I've been in Sevenoaks) but say with confidence it's bollocks like all the rest of them. Worse than ge2015
  • frpenkridgefrpenkridge Posts: 670
    Is this a replacement for today's missing Pointless episode?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,112

    TOPPING said:

    begging the question we all need to know the answer to now:

    When will the actual result be announced, post Jun 23?

    August? And they will probably say they have changed the methodology
    haha and perhaps I should have clarified. Of the actual referendum, not this effing opinion poll, although I wonder..
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    It seems odd that the poll has been so much delayed. Is there some technical problem with it?
  • GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Anyone know if there are any new polls out today?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936
    Unweighted base 1000 483 426
    Weighted base 1000 425 464
    Remain a member of the 425 425 - European Union 43% 100% - Leave the European 464 - 464
    Union 46% - 100%
    Certain not to vote in 51 - - EU Referendum 5% - - Don't know 60 - - 6% - -
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,936
    Leave 46
    Remain 44
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    Anyone know if there are any new polls out today?

    Snort :trollface:
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,726
    edited June 2016
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    begging the question we all need to know the answer to now:

    When will the actual result be announced, post Jun 23?

    August? And they will probably say they have changed the methodology
    haha and perhaps I should have clarified. Of the actual referendum, not this effing opinion poll, although I wonder..
    I meant the referendum too :-)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,170
    rcs1000 said:

    Leave 46
    Remain 44

    Aren't there two polls from ICM?
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,158
    So, anyone else looking forward to Scotland's first game in this tourney?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,451
    rcs1000 said:

    Leave 46
    Remain 44

    #BREXIT
  • NoEasyDayNoEasyDay Posts: 454
    rcs1000 said:

    NoEasyDay said:

    online poll 44% remain 49 leave
    phone 45 remain 50 leave

    Source Zero hedge

    That's been quoted about 40 times but it's all from one source who says he's seen it, so could easily be shit.
    agreed could be shite,,but it would fit with the current narrative. And you all seemed bored so I though I'd give you some
    thing to talk about.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,663
    Looks like the British people are speaking.

    AND THEY ARE SAYING "OUT" !

    https://www.icmunlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/13-Jun.pdf
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    rcs1000 said:

    Unweighted base 1000 483 426
    Weighted base 1000 425 464
    Remain a member of the 425 425 - European Union 43% 100% - Leave the European 464 - 464
    Union 46% - 100%
    Certain not to vote in 51 - - EU Referendum 5% - - Don't know 60 - - 6% - -

    Phone or online?
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    TDTPDSFA
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