ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
To be fair why would they bother? Since they could just claim the chaos proves them right?
None of this nonsense if you'd all simply voted Morris Dancer. Our sensible foreign policy of invading France would've happened in mid-May last year, and concluded late May 2015.
None of this nonsense if you'd all simply voted Morris Dancer. Our sensible foreign policy of invading France would've happened in mid-May last year, and concluded late May 2015.
Is taking what is rightfully yours an invasion? *innocent face*
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
I really was joking when I mentioned the d-notice.
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
It could be the British people want to force Cameron and the EU to make a genuinely significant vow through real fear of Brexit..
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
It could be the British people want to force Cameron and the EU to make a genuinely significant vow through real fear of Brexit..
I want a vow that involves jelly, rubber and intense, long-lasting personal embarrassment.
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
Which is exactly why Cameron wouldn't have done it. He'd want maximum market carnage to be caused by a Leave-favourable poll, you know it, I know it, we all know it.
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
I really was joking when I mentioned the d-notice.
Sure. It will be interesting to see ICM's explanation for the delayed poll.
Quite possibly it's just the Guardian holding it back, wanting to make more impact?
And now I am actually going to get up, walk to the shops, and do something useful, for about ten minutes.
The ICM phone polls normally come out between 3.30pm and 6pm.
Someone, wrongly said it was out at 12.30pm, Martin Boon said at 12.30ish, ICM were still working on it.
My guess is that fieldwork only ended this morning.
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
It could be the British people want to force Cameron and the EU to make a genuinely significant vow through real fear of Brexit..
Any idea where this huge meeting of the British People took place to decide this - I missed the invitation?
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
It could be the British people want to force Cameron and the EU to make a genuinely significant vow through real fear of Brexit..
I don't think so. There may have been some in Scotland who never really thought Yes would win and maybe didn't really want it either but wanted a good bargaining chip. In this case I think out means out.
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
It could be the British people want to force Cameron and the EU to make a genuinely significant vow through real fear of Brexit..
I want a vow that involves jelly, rubber and intense, long-lasting personal embarrassment.
Labour just do not have an answer to the immigration question.
Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse Gordon Brown brought in to re-launch remain campaign, ends up picking fights with The Sun and BBC. Way to go.
Apparently it's not immigration that's the issue. It's illegal immigration. Kudos to his coaching staff; it must have been murder to stop him saying 'Tory illegal immigration'.
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
It could be the British people want to force Cameron and the EU to make a genuinely significant vow through real fear of Brexit..
I don't think so. There may have been some in Scotland who never really thought Yes would win and maybe didn't really want it either but wanted a good bargaining chip. In this case I think out means out.
I agree. With Scotland I think there were some Scots who voted patriotically but deep down saw the UK as stable and a safer option. Now people are looking at Europe and see a complete mess, though many leavers like myself look at a new global era for the UK a lot of undecided voters will see retreating from the EU as a safer option in than continuing to put up with the chaos.
Labour just do not have an answer to the immigration question.
Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse Gordon Brown brought in to re-launch remain campaign, ends up picking fights with The Sun and BBC. Way to go.
Does Brown have much appeal outside Scotland?
Ahem. Couple of surplus words there.
I was going to say I'd not noticed his appeal here. Perhaps it's in Kirkaldy.
Maybe
Whit wey does the engine say 'Toot-toot'? Is it feart to gang in the tunnel? Whit wey is the furnace no pit oot When the rain gangs doon the funnel? What'll I hae for my tea the nicht? A herrin', or maybe a haddie? Has Gran'ma gotten electric licht? Is the next stop Kirkcaddy? There's a hoodie-craw on yon turnip-raw! An' seagulls! - sax or seeven. I'll no fa' oot o' the windae, Maw, Its sneckit, as sure as I'm leevin'. We're into the tunnel! we're a' in the dark! But dinna be frichtit, Daddy, We'll sune be comin' to Beveridge Park, And the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
Is yon the mune I see in the sky? It's awfu' wee an' curly, See! there's a coo and a cauf ootbye, An' a lassie pu'in' a hurly! He's chackit the tickets and gien them back, Sae gie me my ain yin, Daddy. Lift doon the bag frae the luggage rack, For the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
There's a gey wheen boats at the harbour mou', And eh! dae ya see the cruisers? The cinnamon drop I was sookin' the noo Has tummelt an' stuck tae ma troosers. . . I'll sune be ringin' ma Gran'ma's bell, She'll cry, 'Come ben, my laddie', For I ken mysel' by the queer-like smell That the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
ICM Brexit poll to be released after market close.
Which market, mind.
That is an odd coincidence, isn't it?
Remember what I said before... That if the poll was explosively pro-LEAVE then arguably the government might seek to delay it, by a few hours, to prepare the markets and the BoE.
I don't mean this conspiratorially, I just mean as a sensible measure.
I have no idea if such a thing would be legal or feasible, I'm just saying it is morally defensible.
It could be the British people want to force Cameron and the EU to make a genuinely significant vow through real fear of Brexit..
I don't think so. There may have been some in Scotland who never really thought Yes would win and maybe didn't really want it either but wanted a good bargaining chip. In this case I think out means out.
I agree. With Scotland I think there were some Scots who voted patriotically but deep down saw the UK as stable and a safer option. Now people are looking at Europe and see a complete mess, though many leavers like myself look at a new global era for the UK a lot of undecided voters will see retreating from the EU as a safer option in than continuing to put up with the chaos.
It is a bit disingenuous to suggest that we would somehow be any more immune to chaos inside the EU if we voted to leave, especially if we we caused it! I voted to remain in the UK in the Indy Ref, and I am now firmly voting to remain in the EU because I don't want to risk the very economic instability and security issues that our leaving would cause across Europe.
Labour just do not have an answer to the immigration question.
Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse Gordon Brown brought in to re-launch remain campaign, ends up picking fights with The Sun and BBC. Way to go.
Does Brown have much appeal outside Scotland?
Ahem. Couple of surplus words there.
I was going to say I'd not noticed his appeal here. Perhaps it's in Kirkaldy.
Maybe
Whit wey does the engine say 'Toot-toot'? Is it feart to gang in the tunnel? Whit wey is the furnace no pit oot When the rain gangs doon the funnel? What'll I hae for my tea the nicht? A herrin', or maybe a haddie? Has Gran'ma gotten electric licht? Is the next stop Kirkcaddy? There's a hoodie-craw on yon turnip-raw! An' seagulls! - sax or seeven. I'll no fa' oot o' the windae, Maw, Its sneckit, as sure as I'm leevin'. We're into the tunnel! we're a' in the dark! But dinna be frichtit, Daddy, We'll sune be comin' to Beveridge Park, And the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
Is yon the mune I see in the sky? It's awfu' wee an' curly, See! there's a coo and a cauf ootbye, An' a lassie pu'in' a hurly! He's chackit the tickets and gien them back, Sae gie me my ain yin, Daddy. Lift doon the bag frae the luggage rack, For the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
There's a gey wheen boats at the harbour mou', And eh! dae ya see the cruisers? The cinnamon drop I was sookin' the noo Has tummelt an' stuck tae ma troosers. . . I'll sune be ringin' ma Gran'ma's bell, She'll cry, 'Come ben, my laddie', For I ken mysel' by the queer-like smell That the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
Mr. Midwinter, worth noting in an excellent book (The Political Punter, available at all good bookshops) it was written that some people in leadership contests backed themselves on the betting markets to try and create a narrative of momentum.
Labour just do not have an answer to the immigration question.
Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse Gordon Brown brought in to re-launch remain campaign, ends up picking fights with The Sun and BBC. Way to go.
Does Brown have much appeal outside Scotland?
Ahem. Couple of surplus words there.
I was going to say I'd not noticed his appeal here. Perhaps it's in Kirkaldy.
Maybe
Whit wey does the engine say 'Toot-toot'? Is it feart to gang in the tunnel? Whit wey is the furnace no pit oot When the rain gangs doon the funnel? What'll I hae for my tea the nicht? A herrin', or maybe a haddie? Has Gran'ma gotten electric licht? Is the next stop Kirkcaddy? There's a hoodie-craw on yon turnip-raw! An' seagulls! - sax or seeven. I'll no fa' oot o' the windae, Maw, Its sneckit, as sure as I'm leevin'. We're into the tunnel! we're a' in the dark! But dinna be frichtit, Daddy, We'll sune be comin' to Beveridge Park, And the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
Is yon the mune I see in the sky? It's awfu' wee an' curly, See! there's a coo and a cauf ootbye, An' a lassie pu'in' a hurly! He's chackit the tickets and gien them back, Sae gie me my ain yin, Daddy. Lift doon the bag frae the luggage rack, For the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
There's a gey wheen boats at the harbour mou', And eh! dae ya see the cruisers? The cinnamon drop I was sookin' the noo Has tummelt an' stuck tae ma troosers. . . I'll sune be ringin' ma Gran'ma's bell, She'll cry, 'Come ben, my laddie', For I ken mysel' by the queer-like smell That the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
That's lovely.
The queer-like smell wasn't Gordon Brown but the huge linoleum works that used to dominate the front of Kirkcaldy. I can just about remember it but its all gone now.
Mr. Midwinter, worth noting in an excellent book (The Political Punter, available at all good bookshops) it was written that some people in leadership contests backed themselves on the betting markets to try and create a narrative of momentum.
Mr. Midwinter, worth noting in an excellent book (The Political Punter, available at all good bookshops) it was written that some people in leadership contests backed themselves on the betting markets to try and create a narrative of momentum.
True but a bit optimistic 5 mins before a poll comes out I'd imagine...
Mr. Midwinter, worth noting in an excellent book (The Political Punter, available at all good bookshops) it was written that some people in leadership contests backed themselves on the betting markets to try and create a narrative of momentum.
Mr. Midwinter, worth noting in an excellent book (The Political Punter, available at all good bookshops) it was written that some people in leadership contests backed themselves on the betting markets to try and create a narrative of momentum.
True but a bit optimistic 5 mins before a poll comes out I'd imagine...
Although I now have an image of Dave and George punting like maniacs on Betfair....
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Otherwise not much in reality.
Craig Woodhouse @craigawoodhouse
Gordon Brown brought in to re-launch remain campaign, ends up picking fights with The Sun and BBC. Way to go.
1. WW3; or
2. The destruction of Western civilisation
Catch @John_mills_jml debating for 'Leave' on 'Better In or Out?' ahead of the EU Referendum on @BBCiPlayer > https://t.co/DKQMXhZ6B2 #EURef
RAPUNZEL!...."
Someone, wrongly said it was out at 12.30pm, Martin Boon said at 12.30ish, ICM were still working on it.
My guess is that fieldwork only ended this morning.
titters
I agree. With Scotland I think there were some Scots who voted patriotically but deep down saw the UK as stable and a safer option. Now people are looking at Europe and see a complete mess, though many leavers like myself look at a new global era for the UK a lot of undecided voters will see retreating from the EU as a safer option in than continuing to put up with the chaos.
Remain 182
Leave 139
Not Declared 9
Was 180-140-10 after the Wollaston switch - so not sure who has switched and declared since then.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vp6viBi5DA4avMgR2Y8lKrrAUqJp-0zL2LZB6iVD3uU/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=450656551
Vote Remain for more law and order and trains that run ontime....shurely shome mishtake
Will this be TDTPT?
Would PB readers prefer
a) the wrong poll figures ASAP or
b) the right poll figures tomorrow?
Whit wey does the engine say 'Toot-toot'?
Is it feart to gang in the tunnel?
Whit wey is the furnace no pit oot
When the rain gangs doon the funnel?
What'll I hae for my tea the nicht?
A herrin', or maybe a haddie?
Has Gran'ma gotten electric licht?
Is the next stop Kirkcaddy?
There's a hoodie-craw on yon turnip-raw!
An' seagulls! - sax or seeven.
I'll no fa' oot o' the windae, Maw,
Its sneckit, as sure as I'm leevin'.
We're into the tunnel! we're a' in the dark!
But dinna be frichtit, Daddy,
We'll sune be comin' to Beveridge Park,
And the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
Is yon the mune I see in the sky?
It's awfu' wee an' curly,
See! there's a coo and a cauf ootbye,
An' a lassie pu'in' a hurly!
He's chackit the tickets and gien them back,
Sae gie me my ain yin, Daddy.
Lift doon the bag frae the luggage rack,
For the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
There's a gey wheen boats at the harbour mou',
And eh! dae ya see the cruisers?
The cinnamon drop I was sookin' the noo
Has tummelt an' stuck tae ma troosers. . .
I'll sune be ringin' ma Gran'ma's bell,
She'll cry, 'Come ben, my laddie',
For I ken mysel' by the queer-like smell
That the next stop's Kirkcaddy!
https://twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/742382921466675200
Tittered?
Tumbled?
Tumulted?
Until the poll is confirmed by ICM, the Guardian or us we'd recommend you take the rumours put about with a pinch of salt.
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Edited extra bit: +er
Of course Caveat Emptor/DYOR and all that jazz.
Surely this deserves OGH appearing before a parliamentary select committee to account for his misdemeanour.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-13/high-anxiety-over-brexit-survey-crashes-u-k-pollster-s-website
Where's my poll???