I can understand not naming them if there is an ongoing police investigation, but that report says that Ipsa did deals with several MPs which meant their names wont be released and they were re-elected in 2015. WTF is the point of IPSA then? We could just get the Telegraph to look MPs returns instead and save the public purse a load of dosh and also publicly hold MPs to account.
I can understand not naming them if there is an ongoing police investigation, but that report says that Ipsa did deals with several MPs which meant their names wont be released and they were re-elected in 2015. WTF is the point of IPSA then? We could just get the Telegraph to look MPs returns instead and save the public purse a load of dosh and also publicly hold MPs to account.
I can understand not naming them if there is a police investigation, but that report says that Ipsa did deals with several MPs which meant their names wont be released and they were re-elected in 2015. WTF is the point of IPSA then? We could just get the Telegraph to look MPs returns instead and save the public purse a load of dosh and also publicly hold MPs to account.
I don't understand why MPs don't scrap this half-arsed expenses system and introduce allowances instead: a sort of London weighting in reverse. X thousand pounds for a second home, Y thousand for travel, and if MPs want to blow the lot on duck houses and moats, that will be their business. Or have parliament pick up the bills directly. Anything would be better than the current mess.
I can understand not naming them if there is a police investigation, but that report says that Ipsa did deals with several MPs which meant their names wont be released and they were re-elected in 2015. WTF is the point of IPSA then? We could just get the Telegraph to look MPs returns instead and save the public purse a load of dosh and also publicly hold MPs to account.
I don't understand why MPs don't scrap this half-arsed expenses system and introduce allowances instead: a sort of London weighting in reverse. X thousand pounds for a second home, Y thousand for travel, and if MPs want to blow the lot on duck houses and moats, that will be their business. Or have parliament pick up the bills directly. Anything would be better than the current mess.
Personally, I would go with some sort of graduated flat "allowance" which they could decide how best to spend to enable them to represent their constituents, but with the condition that all that money had to be spent on a special debit card....and all the transactions from that would be automatically published online. Hopefully that sort of transparency might stop them ordering PPV porn or moat clearing etc etc etc....
I can understand not naming them if there is a police investigation, but that report says that Ipsa did deals with several MPs which meant their names wont be released and they were re-elected in 2015. WTF is the point of IPSA then? We could just get the Telegraph to look MPs returns instead and save the public purse a load of dosh and also publicly hold MPs to account.
I don't understand why MPs don't scrap this half-arsed expenses system and introduce allowances instead: a sort of London weighting in reverse. X thousand pounds for a second home, Y thousand for travel, and if MPs want to blow the lot on duck houses and moats, that will be their business. Or have parliament pick up the bills directly. Anything would be better than the current mess.
What do all their office staff etc cost normally ?
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
Indeed. Although you could argue that the less work they do, the less damage they do.
Schulz, speaking in an interview on Sky News, said that “legally binding decisions are also reversible -- nothing is irreversible.” The same man who in 2012 said "I share the ECB's view that the euro is an irreversible project." Source: http://tinyurl.com/h7gfpjz Another manipulative eurocrat found in the wild. Determined to federalise at all costs, not prepared to accept our currency opt out. We're better off out.
Schulz, speaking in an interview on Sky News, said that “legally binding decisions are also reversible -- nothing is irreversible.” The same man who in 2012 said "I share the ECB's view that the euro is an irreversible project." Source: http://tinyurl.com/h7gfpjz Another manipulative eurocrat found in the wild. Determined to federalise at all costs, not prepared to accept our currency opt out. We're better off out.
Technically, nothing is irreversible. That very principle is one of the foundations of our parliamentary system.
Although I agree he is a hypocrite. Perhaps he is distinguishing between legally irreversible and practically irreversible.
Of the five cabinet ministers expected to vote leave, who do Tories think would make best leader?
Which 5 are they?
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Iain Duncan Smith
The only one of those I recognise is Iain Duncan 'quiet man' Smith. Are the others refugees from a production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, or is there a subtext I'm missing?
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Perfectly acceptable, and make English the only language, and HM ex officio President of Europe.
Of the five cabinet ministers expected to vote leave, who do Tories think would make best leader?
Which 5 are they?
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Iain Duncan Smith
The only one of those I recognise is Iain Duncan 'quiet man' Smith. Are the others refugees from a production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, or is there a subtext I'm missing?
It was a joke. I was attempting humour. Possibly the wrong venue, but still...
Of the five cabinet ministers expected to vote leave, who do Tories think would make best leader?
Which 5 are they?
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Iain Duncan Smith
The only one of those I recognise is Iain Duncan 'quiet man' Smith. Are the others refugees from a production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, or is there a subtext I'm missing?
It was a joke. I was attempting humour. Possibly the wrong venue, but still...
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Have you seen Zoolander 2 today?
No, last film I saw was Star Wars (three times). Is Z2 any good?
Of the five cabinet ministers expected to vote leave, who do Tories think would make best leader?
Which 5 are they?
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Iain Duncan Smith
The only one of those I recognise is Iain Duncan 'quiet man' Smith. Are the others refugees from a production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, or is there a subtext I'm missing?
It was a joke. I was attempting humour. Possibly the wrong venue, but still...
More like the wrong topic. Unless you were implying whoever the five are they will all be political pygmies.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Perfectly acceptable, and make English the only language, and HM ex officio President of Europe.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Have you seen Zoolander 2 today?
No, last film I saw was Star Wars (three times). Is Z2 any good?
Not seen it, was wondering if I should go see tomorrow, before I see my most anticipated film of 2016, Pride and Prejudice & Zombies.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Have you seen Zoolander 2 today?
No, last film I saw was Star Wars (three times). Is Z2 any good?
Not seen it, was wondering if I should go see tomorrow, before I see my most anticipated film of 2016, Pride and Prejudice & Zombies.
I actually thought you were joking there, and then I googled it.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Have you seen Zoolander 2 today?
No, last film I saw was Star Wars (three times). Is Z2 any good?
Not seen it, was wondering if I should go see tomorrow, before I see my most anticipated film of 2016, Pride and Prejudice & Zombies.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Perfectly acceptable, and make English the only language, and HM ex officio President of Europe.
Which would only be fair recompense for our continually saving Europe's sorry ass from the grip of tyranny....
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Have you seen Zoolander 2 today?
No, last film I saw was Star Wars (three times). Is Z2 any good?
Not seen it, was wondering if I should go see tomorrow, before I see my most anticipated film of 2016, Pride and Prejudice & Zombies.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Have you seen Zoolander 2 today?
No, last film I saw was Star Wars (three times). Is Z2 any good?
Not seen it, was wondering if I should go see tomorrow, before I see my most anticipated film of 2016, Pride and Prejudice & Zombies.
I actually thought you were joking there, and then I googled it.
The book is great, I hope the film lives up to it.
I love Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice, I love Zombies.
The Sunday Times are reporting Lord Powell saying Lady Thatcher would vote to leave the EU.
Mr. Chairman, you have invited me to speak on the subject of Britain and Europe. Perhaps I should congratulate you on your courage. If you believe some of the things said and written about my views on Europe, it must seem rather like inviting Genghis Khan to speak on the virtues of peaceful coexistence! ...The European Community is one manifestation of that European identity, but it is not the only one. We must never forget that east of the Iron Curtain, peoples who once enjoyed a full share of European culture, freedom and identity have been cut off from their roots. We shall always look on Warsaw, Prague and Budapest as great European cities...To try to suppress nationhood and concentrate power at the centre of a European conglomerate would be highly damaging and would jeopardise the objectives we seek to achieve. Europe will be stronger precisely because it has France as France, Spain as Spain, Britain as Britain, each with its own customs, traditions and identity. It would be folly to try to fit them into some sort of identikit European personality...it is ironic that just when those countries such as the Soviet Union, which have tried to run everything from the centre, are learning that success depends on dispersing power and decisions away from the centre, there are some in the Community who seem to want to move in the opposite direction. We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level with a European super-state exercising a new dominance from Brussels.
- M. H. Thatcher, The Bruges Speech (20 September, 1988)
Of the five cabinet ministers expected to vote leave, who do Tories think would make best leader?
Which 5 are they?
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Iain Duncan Smith
The only one of those I recognise is Iain Duncan 'quiet man' Smith. Are the others refugees from a production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, or is there a subtext I'm missing?
It is a reference to the sixties pop group who charted as much as the Beatles but are now largely forgotton.
If that holds up, it is politically very, very damaging. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Last night Khan’s spokesman hit back, calling Cage a “vile organisation” and insisting Khan had gone to the events only to campaign to stop Babar Ahmad, a Tooting contemporary, being extradited to America. Ahmad later pleaded guilty to “conspiracy and providing material to support terrorism”.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
From memory the only place where the EU parliament has to be is Strasbourg (its explicitly mentioned in a treaty while Brussels isn't. So I would go for the reverse option and just close Brussels down and move the lot lock stock and barrel to Strasbourg....
Reading the Telegraph "Global Disaster" coming piece is putting me in a surprisingly good mood.
Like The Economist's covers, The Telegraph has a tendency to call things just after they've happened.
The key point, to me, is that you could have written that piece in 1981. You would have pointed to coming defaults in Mexico and in other oil producing countries. You would have pointed out that Western banks (and particularly UK banks) had lent very heavily to resource producers. You would have mentioned that government debt loads had soared through the 1970s, and that economies were fragile from a decade of recession, with record unemployment in many places.
In other words, you would have been very bearish. And you would have been very wrong.
Despite almost every commodity exporter going bust between 1981 and the end of the 1980s, it turned out that developed world was in amazing shape. The 1980s and 1990s, except for a brief (but deep) recession in the early 1990s, were two decades of unparalleled growth.
Fair enough but some things have changed since the 1980s.
If every commodity exporter goes bust and 20% of their population decides to emigrate northwards what happens then ?
Don't mean to be funny, but Khan story isn't exactly shocking given his close associations in the past with various interesting individuals and groups, nor do I think it will hurt him. Or maybe I am forgetting I already know the former. Lets see if the likes of the BBC care about it, or we get the racist / islamaphobic card played.
Chris Ship @chrisshipitv Feb 5 EU Parliament President says MEPs may get final say on UK deal even *after* #UKreferendum. Cameron says no way. @NewsAtTen with @ragehomaar
Chris Ship @chrisshipitv Feb 5 EU Parliament President says MEPs may get final say on UK deal even *after* #UKreferendum. Cameron says no way. @NewsAtTen with @ragehomaar
The EU Parliament Pres is a fool. He's the one that wanted MEPs votes in the parliament to be secret.
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It makes our own parliamentarians look like rank amateurs in comparison.
At least make it a month in Strasbourg, or six months. Or demolish it.
Or make London the capital of the EU
Have you seen Zoolander 2 today?
No, last film I saw was Star Wars (three times). Is Z2 any good?
Not seen it, was wondering if I should go see tomorrow, before I see my most anticipated film of 2016, Pride and Prejudice & Zombies.
The book is surprisingly faithful to the source - its pretty much 100% Jane Austen in with the occasional mention of zombies. I'm wondering if the film is going to miss the point and go heavy on the zombies.
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
What's his race got to do with it?
It is all very reminiscent of the tactics the Republicans used against Obama: highlight the most utterly tenuous and irrelevant of links to some sinister person (in Obama's case, it was the fact he once happened to be at the same community meeting as that Bill Ayers guy), and hope racial-based suspicions do the rest of the work.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much time for Khan who seems as dull and unprincipled as politicians come, but an ISIS-sympathiser he clearly isn't.
Indeed it is the political equivalent of the LibDems forming the next majority government. We can dream...
My dear doctor, can we please stick to those things that are bizarre but not quite impossible, rather than those which would require some kind of epochal catastrophe coupled with divine intervention and even then several murders to come about?
The Liberal Democrats winning 10 seats is implausible but not impossible. Suggesting they could form a government is equivalent to hearing that the law of gravitation has been suspended.
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
What's his race got to do with it?
By using race, he can shout racism, when he really means islam. Race is a physiological characteristic that the person involves has no control or influence over. It just is. Islam is an idea, that can and should be challenged like any other ideology and philosophy. Khan has been hanging out with some deeply unsavoury people and shilling on their behalf. The sheer depravity of these people is hidden behind a shield of 'religion'. That somehow to criticise means to be racist. Racism is bad, therefore lets try and associate as many kind of things as possible as 'race' to stop people criticising us.
I think seant mentioned he doesn't know which way the Sunday Times may go on the EU coverage,well tomorrows front page might be given us hints ;-)
Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick Sunday Times front page: Thatcher ‘would vote yes to EU’#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers #euref pic.twitter.com/gZabKi0BWf
If that is the best reason they can come up with as a reason to vote to leave, they aren't that confident of their case. Really weak headline
It doesn't matter. The point is to produce stories, day in and day out, to nudge the voter into voting LEAVE. Articles about European countries or the Council of Europe must be led by a statement from an Outer saying "This is why we must leave the EU", even if the EU is not actually involved. Any statement by an Inner must be ignored except for the response by an Outer, and the Outer's response must be the headline. A statement from one Outer and X Neutrals must be headlined as "(X+1) Outers say" even if the statement doesn't actually say that. And so on.
This is how the British press operates. It's not a machine for producing truths, it's a machine for interpreting events that best serve their proprietors' interests, and they are very good at it.
Don't mean to be funny, but Khan story isn't exactly shocking given his close associations in the past with various interesting individuals and groups, nor do I think it will hurt him. Or maybe I am forgetting I already know the former. Lets see if the likes of the BBC care about it, or we get the racist / islamaphobic card played.
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
What's his race got to do with it?
By using race, he can shout racism, when he really means islam. Race is a physiological characteristic that the person involves has no control or influence over. It just is. Islam is an idea, that can and should be challenged like any other ideology and philosophy. Khan has been hanging out with some deeply unsavoury people and shilling on their behalf. The sheer depravity of these people is hidden behind a shield of 'religion'. That somehow to criticise means to be racist. Racism is bad, therefore lets try and associate as many kind of things as possible as 'race' to stop people criticising us.
"Hanging out" = being in the vicinity of eachother at a particular event.
I guess I also "hung out" with the dozens of people I happened to pass on the street today.
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
What's his race got to do with it?
It is all very reminiscent of the tactics the Republicans used against Obama: highlight the most utterly tenuous and irrelevant of links to some sinister person (in Obama's case, it was the fact he once happened to be at the same community meeting as that Bill Ayers guy), and hope racial-based suspicions do the rest of the work.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much time for Khan who seems as dull and unprincipled as politicians come, but an ISIS-sympathiser he clearly isn't.
Khan seems to have more of connection to CAGE than Obama ever had to Bill Ayers. And Tories are happily to play terrorist sympathiser tag on Corbyn and McDonnel, so don't think it had anything to do with race. Labour just need to learn to be smarter about who they associate with.
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
What's his race got to do with it?
It is all very reminiscent of the tactics the Republicans used against Obama: highlight the most utterly tenuous and irrelevant of links to some sinister person (in Obama's case, it was the fact he once happened to be at the same community meeting as that Bill Ayers guy), and hope racial-based suspicions do the rest of the work.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much time for Khan who seems as dull and unprincipled as politicians come, but an ISIS-sympathiser he clearly isn't.
It really isn't. The morning thread makes the point the Tories use the bunch of terrorist sympathisers line on Corbyn and McDonnell.
The thing isn't that they are sympathisers, more useful idiots.
The Tories know if they play the racist/Islamophobic card, it would undo the detoxification strategy for 20 years
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
What's his race got to do with it?
It is all very reminiscent of the tactics the Republicans used against Obama: highlight the most utterly tenuous and irrelevant of links to some sinister person (in Obama's case, it was the fact he once happened to be at the same community meeting as that Bill Ayers guy), and hope racial-based suspicions do the rest of the work.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much time for Khan who seems as dull and unprincipled as politicians come, but an ISIS-sympathiser he clearly isn't.
Khan seems to have more of connection to CAGE than Obama ever had to Bill Ayers. And Tories are happily to play terrorist sympathiser tag on Corbyn and McDonnel, so don't think it had anything to do with race. Labour just need to learn to be smarter about who they associate with.
But (much as I hate to admit it) there is more cause to call Corbyn and McDonnell terrorist sympathisers, since they have moronically called Hamas friends, made apologies for the IRA, etc.
For me, Khan happening to attend the same event as some unsavoury characters, an event which was protesting for something pretty innocuous, is not in the same league.
To try to suppress nationhood and concentrate power at the centre of a European conglomerate would be highly damaging and would jeopardise the objectives we seek to achieve. Europe will be stronger precisely because it has France as France, Spain as Spain, Britain as Britain, each with its own customs, traditions and identity. It would be folly to try to fit them into some sort of identikit European personality...it is ironic that just when those countries such as the Soviet Union, which have tried to run everything from the centre, are learning that success depends on dispersing power and decisions away from the centre, there are some in the Community who seem to want to move in the opposite direction. We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level with a European super-state exercising a new dominance from Brussels.
- M. H. Thatcher, The Bruges Speech (20 September, 1988)
I see the race-baiting re:Sadiq Khan is about to start again.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
What's his race got to do with it?
It is all very reminiscent of the tactics the Republicans used against Obama: highlight the most utterly tenuous and irrelevant of links to some sinister person (in Obama's case, it was the fact he once happened to be at the same community meeting as that Bill Ayers guy), and hope racial-based suspicions do the rest of the work.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much time for Khan who seems as dull and unprincipled as politicians come, but an ISIS-sympathiser he clearly isn't.
It really isn't. The morning thread makes the point the Tories use the bunch of terrorist sympathisers line on Corbyn and McDonnell.
The thing isn't that they are sympathisers, more useful idiots.
The Tories know if they play the racist/Islamophobic card, it would undo the detoxification strategy for 20 years
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https://youtu.be/HaZDiKRT1is
Visited Bletchley Park today. It's been spruced up quite a lot since my last visit about 5 years ago.
The more you hear about this monthly jaunt to Strasbourg, the more insane it sounds. They charter a couple of trains to send the staff on Monday morning, returning Thursday evening., and boxes of files are shipped in eight lorries. You have to wonder how much time/money they spend packing/unpacking stuff. They probably only get half a days work done.
Mad.
It seems that convict @Marshajane doesn't want the general Twitter public seeing her tweets. #corbyn https://t.co/CSUWb54vEo
The same man who in 2012 said "I share the ECB's view that the euro is an irreversible project." Source: http://tinyurl.com/h7gfpjz
Another manipulative eurocrat found in the wild. Determined to federalise at all costs, not prepared to accept our currency opt out. We're better off out.
Should be fun.
https://twitter.com/davidprescott/status/696045966000914432
Although I agree he is a hypocrite. Perhaps he is distinguishing between legally irreversible and practically irreversible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jafquGUhiw
And then I love her more https://youtu.be/WQIvhotZSUw
Jill Mountford, newly elected member of Momentum committee, stood against Harriet Harman in 2010 GE, got 75 votes.
I love Jane Austen/Pride and Prejudice, I love Zombies.
My cup well and truly runneth over
Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick
Sunday Times front page:
Thatcher ‘would vote yes to EU’#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers #euref pic.twitter.com/gZabKi0BWf
- M. H. Thatcher, The Bruges Speech (20 September, 1988)
"Kate to lay ghost of Diana to rest"
Express execs wailing "Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!"
That must be the footballing equivalent of the Liberal Democrats getting more than 10 seats.
http://youtu.be/MSlpK0U9dhE
"Ghost of Diana haunts Kate"
Did anyone here watch the mayoral debate?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12144525/David-Cameron-pleads-with-Michael-Gove-not-to-back-Brexit.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/696087107102765057/photo/1
The fecker.
If every commodity exporter goes bust and 20% of their population decides to emigrate northwards what happens then ?
What did Macmillan say? Something about events.
*hides from Sunil*
EU Parliament President says MEPs may get final say on UK deal even *after* #UKreferendum. Cameron says no way. @NewsAtTen with @ragehomaar
EU Parliament President @MartinSchulz admits many colleagues say to him 'if the Brits want to leave, let them leave'.
I had to gut most of it and use it on my recent electoral reform thread.
I might do the next Scottish Independence referendum should be conducted under AV thread instead.
As far as I can see, the story amounts to "He once appeared at the same event as someone who was associated with an organisation who later associated with an organisation who would 11 years later make an idiotic comment praising Jihadi John". Clearly a sign that Khan is going to impose sharia law on London and slaughter all white people.
Not all Muslims are brown people!
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much time for Khan who seems as dull and unprincipled as politicians come, but an ISIS-sympathiser he clearly isn't.
Lord JohnO of this parish assures me it was said in private to a bunch of Tory MPs back in the day.
The Liberal Democrats winning 10 seats is implausible but not impossible. Suggesting they could form a government is equivalent to hearing that the law of gravitation has been suspended.
This is how the British press operates. It's not a machine for producing truths, it's a machine for interpreting events that best serve their proprietors' interests, and they are very good at it.
I guess I also "hung out" with the dozens of people I happened to pass on the street today.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10045061/Margaret-Thatcher-wanted-Britain-to-leave-the-EU.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12124910/Sir-Bernard-Ingham-EU-is-corrupt-useless-and-riddled-with-fraud.html
The thing isn't that they are sympathisers, more useful idiots.
The Tories know if they play the racist/Islamophobic card, it would undo the detoxification strategy for 20 years
For me, Khan happening to attend the same event as some unsavoury characters, an event which was protesting for something pretty innocuous, is not in the same league.
- M. H. Thatcher, The Bruges Speech (20 September, 1988)