Anyone with any shrewd intellect will have already and certainly now be calculating how to steer clear of the final Labour catastrophe.
To any lefties I worked fecking hard for my skills and my money, my business and those I do employ.
I am not ever again going to let Labour use that money in a public urinal.
Our business won't survive another Labour financial disaster that's for sure...
Our business was launched under Labour and thrived under Labour. Not that Labour had anything much to do with it. We've also done well under the Tories, I hasten to add.
Anyone with any shrewd intellect will have already and certainly now be calculating how to steer clear of the final Labour catastrophe.
To any lefties I worked fecking hard for my skills and my money, my business and those I do employ.
I am not ever again going to let Labour use that money in a public urinal.
Presumably the people you employ are saying they prefer a Labour government that they think will look after them rather than a Conservative government who they think only care about rich people like you .
Anyone with any shrewd intellect will have already and certainly now be calculating how to steer clear of the final Labour catastrophe.
To any lefties I worked fecking hard for my skills and my money, my business and those I do employ.
I am not ever again going to let Labour use that money in a public urinal.
Our business won't survive another Labour financial disaster that's for sure...
Our business was launched under Labour and thrived under Labour. Not that Labour had anything much to do with it. We've also done well under the Tories, I hasten to add.
"labour and respect fight where I live." So u live in Bradford West then lol. Rand Paul is a good candidate for the Republicans if they have one ounce of sanity (big if) they'll select him. Would be funny if Hilary was selected for Dem nomination and was beaten by Paul lol.
I haven't been around today. Have the nats here apologised for perpetuating the lies and bullying about that girl who asked the question in the scottish debate?
Survation is another poll where a significant chunk of Labour's vote comes from people who didn't vote in 2010 and yet they barely get weighted down at all. Time will tell if they actually stick with the party
So, my notoriously unreliable gut is wondering if we're finally seeing the movement that has long been promised (only in the reverse direction), and whether the signs are the Tories are finally waking up to the fact they should be panicking, as even if Lab cannot replicate these 'nearing a majority' numbers (and definitely a majority numbers if not for Scotland) it would appear at best the Tories are level pegging, and that's as good as they have been able to manage.
IDK, it just feels like more of them are realising it's time to panic. Going after Ed M for his taking on his brother, confusion over whether to focus on him being a fool or a ruthless danger, and bewilderment at the polls not moving decisively in the Tories' favour may be turning to anger, it just feels like a sense of desperation is creeping in.
This isn't over reacting to one or two polls. No matter how close the Tories have managed to get, even eking out minor leads, they appear unable to pull away and the things meant to help them do so appear to be doing the opposite, and the longer that goes on the less hopeless the Labour narrative becomes and the less likely some of them might stay home or vote for someone else, as the more it appears viable that Ed will be PM, the less pessimistic and so firmer the Lab vote will be.
The Tories have had little hope for a while, but they had hope. Much more of this - without a significant and sizable reversal of fortunes in their favour - and that will change to zero hope.
So, my notoriously unreliable gut is wondering if we're finally seeing the movement that has long been promised (only in the reverse direction), and whether the signs are the Tories are finally waking up to the fact they should be panicking, as even if Lab cannot replicate these 'nearing a majority' numbers (and definitely a majority numbers if not for Scotland) it would appear at best the Tories are level pegging, and that's as good as they have been able to manage.
IDK, it just feels like more of them are realising it's time to panic. Going after Ed M for his taking on his brother, confusion over whether to focus on him being a fool or a ruthless danger, and bewilderment at the polls not moving decisively in the Tories' favour may be turning to anger.
This isn't over reacting to one or two polls. No matter how close the Tories have managed to get, even eking out minor leads, they appear unable to pull away and the things meant to help them do so appear to be doing the opposite, and the longer that goes on the less hopeless the Labour narrative becomes and the less likely some of them might stay home or vote for someone else, as the more it appears viable that Ed will be PM, the less pessimistic and so firmer the Lab vote will be.
The Tories have had little hope for a while, but they had hope. Much more of this - without a significant and sizable reversal of fortunes in their favour - and that will change to zero hope.
Plus if a labour majority genuinely looks on the cards on polling day, all the effort the blues have spent on "Vote Ed, get Nicola" is totally wasted.
EdM managed to find a Doncaster North address to put on the SoPN.... Tristam also shows a Stoke Central address as home address Dromey lists a Birmingham address unlike last time when he used the Southwark one
No guarantee Ed will be savaged in the opposition debate either, he could look like the reasonable statesmanlike option given how well prepared and controlled he has been. I'd put the chances of Labour polling increasing to be about 50/50 with it decreasing.
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
What's worse, is this is by no means a cheap hotel.
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
How can you be "almost windowless". It's a binary question, not a relative one.
I stayed in the Kraft in Florence years ago. It was supposedly 4* and cost a bomb. My room smelled of formaldehyde. I was upgraded to a windowless room that looked fine until I realised the hot water was intermittent.
And then I got food poisoning. It tainted my view of Florence - a lot!
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
What's worse, is this is by no means a cheap hotel.
Unless the 'interesting' part of the poll is Con increasing its lead, I think the slight 'Tory advantage but basically tied' status quo narrative may need slight adjustment.
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
I stayed there when I interviewed for UBS earlier this year. It was absolutely awful. The room you didn't stay in doesn't have any natural lighting. I checked out and paid for my own room in the Movenpick hotel at Zurich Airport. I would highly recommend it.
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
How can you be "almost windowless". It's a binary question, not a relative one.
If the window meets the letter but not the spirit of the concept of a windowed room I guess, like 1ft square of glass at above head height on one wall or something. Sure it's there, but it hardly provides the sort of ambiance you'd expect.
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
What's worse, is this is by no means a cheap hotel.
Did you get a bath? Some singles only have showers.
On the plus side you get champagne for breakfast apparently, so hang in there.
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
I stayed there when I interviewed for UBS earlier this year. It was absolutely awful. The room you didn't stay in doesn't have any natural lighting. I checked out and paid for my own room in the Movenpick hotel at Zurich Airport. I would highly recommend it.
Today I woke up at 4:45am at the other end of Switzerland, so I could fly to Madrid for a day of meetings, and now I'm in Zurich.
If I wasn't completely knackered I would follow your advice.
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
I stayed there when I interviewed for UBS earlier this year. It was absolutely awful. The room you didn't stay in doesn't have any natural lighting. I checked out and paid for my own room in the Movenpick hotel at Zurich Airport. I would highly recommend it.
Today I woke up at 4:45am at the other end of Switzerland, so I could fly to Madrid for a day of meetings, and now I'm in Zurich.
If I wasn't completely knackered I would follow your advice.
Sounds like a fun kind of day. If you're there over the weekend then it's probably worth it though.
I stayed in the Kraft in Florence years ago. It was supposedly 4* and cost a bomb. My room smelled of formaldehyde. I was upgraded to a windowless room that looked fine until I realised the hot water was intermittent.
And then I got food poisoning. It tainted my view of Florence - a lot!
If anyone ever has to go to Zurich, can I sincerely recommend not staying at the Schweizerhof Hotel.
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
What's worse, is this is by no means a cheap hotel.
I can recommend the Crowne Plaza in Amsterdam South (Zuid) if anyone's going that way. A few miles from the centre, but Metro can get you there in 15 minutes or so. And travel isn't too bad. Three days on the city's bus/tram/metro costs only 16 Euros.
I said I thought the tories blew it at the budget. It was a complete 'meh' but worse than that, it suggested the leaders didn't realise the country doesn't want another 5 years of uncaring top down austerity from people who don't know what scraping the barrel means.
Now having said all that I think we need to be might careful. Schools are still on holiday and I'm not gonna rush this one. We need to see what happens next week.
A fair point, to be sure. Although plenty of Tories, including those running the campaign strategy, seem to still believe the Cleggasm, temporary though it was, remains the largest single factor as to why they did not achieve a majority in 2010, so presumably if this is the new Cleggasm, those same Tories should remain despondent.
If this polling continues how long will Lynton last?
Surely until May 8th, at least publicly. If the Tories do begin to panic the last thing they need is top publicly declare it by firing their campaign chief. Keep him on payroll anyway and quietly ignore him would be the only option.
EDIT: I don't think the Tories will panic incidentally. even if this polling continues they have decided that the country is incapable of voting EdM to be PM, a theory which has the benefit of being impossible to test until polls close.
EDIT 2: By 'they' I mean the Tory strategists. Not every Tory in the country or on this site.
suggested the leaders didn't realise the country doesn't want another 5 years of uncaring top down austerity from people who don't know what scraping the barrel means. .
Well, the country may not want that, but Ed M or Cameron, we're still getting top down austerity either way, and personally I don't see that the 'caring' factor will matter that much (there's only a limited set of options for cutting after all, particularly when some budgets but not all are protected), but it would appear really do think that a Labour cutting axe is better than a Tory cutting axe.
If you are in the red team which I doubt, I would hate to have you anywhere near the dressing room,the players would go over the white line already defeated.
Southam at least has an excuse as a spurs supporter and a terrible tipster to boot. He gets very election wrong from the USA to the Scottish referendum.
suggested the leaders didn't realise the country doesn't want another 5 years of uncaring top down austerity from people who don't know what scraping the barrel means. .
Well, the country may not want that, but Ed M or Cameron, we're still getting top down austerity either way, and personally I don't see that the 'caring' factor will matter that much (there's only a limited set of options for cutting after all, particularly when some budgets but not all are protected), but it would appear really do think that a Labour cutting axe is better than a Tory cutting axe.
Just run a deficit like every household in britain does apart from the top tories.
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Will you not join me in chanting "Ed Milliband Will Be Prime Minister. May the good Lord have mercy on our souls"?
Not the kind of Labour that Miliband has in mind.
It's now the people's fault...
Yeah right
LOL.
"I don't believe any of this, it just doesn't make any sense. "
It is never the people's fault.
It is the tories' fault.
Ed is doing SOMETHING, and people are noticing this.
Sadly we'll probably see more Labour government and more disaster before another Thatcher comes along and turns things around again.
Too many people do not understand the danger, and do not realise how the last Labour gov had a golden legacy to rely on. We won't have that this time.
I'm waiting for phone polls.
James Chapman (Mail) @jameschappers · 5m 5 minutes ago
Some interesting moves in our @ComResPolls latest telephone survey, out at 10pm
Why are there so many polls today?
Already being trailed as having some 'interesting moves'
Very black Thursday for the tories in the offing.
IDK, it just feels like more of them are realising it's time to panic. Going after Ed M for his taking on his brother, confusion over whether to focus on him being a fool or a ruthless danger, and bewilderment at the polls not moving decisively in the Tories' favour may be turning to anger, it just feels like a sense of desperation is creeping in.
This isn't over reacting to one or two polls. No matter how close the Tories have managed to get, even eking out minor leads, they appear unable to pull away and the things meant to help them do so appear to be doing the opposite, and the longer that goes on the less hopeless the Labour narrative becomes and the less likely some of them might stay home or vote for someone else, as the more it appears viable that Ed will be PM, the less pessimistic and so firmer the Lab vote will be.
The Tories have had little hope for a while, but they had hope. Much more of this - without a significant and sizable reversal of fortunes in their favour - and that will change to zero hope.
Scot YouGov out at 10pm
Gulp....
On the polls I still think the Conservatives, with their greater certainty to vote, will emerge with most seats.
Tristam also shows a Stoke Central address as home address
Dromey lists a Birmingham address unlike last time when he used the Southwark one
Upon check in, I was told I had been upgraded. I was then led to a tiny, almost windowless, room with a single bed in it. What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
Lab 1485.41
NOM 58.27
Con 393.35
With about £300 of stake within NOM at the moment.
Ipsos, ICM and YG all do 55:45 ratio of these social categories.
Subsets
ABs: Tories +5
C1s: Tories + 11.4
C2s: Lab + 5.6
DEs: Lab + 20.4
What have I been upgraded from, I wonder?
You got a bed.
And then I got food poisoning. It tainted my view of Florence - a lot!
So maybe, just maybe, ComRes isn't too disastrous for Con - which I would define as no worse than Lab +1 (given today's other polls).
Remember when the BBC went full on when Oz went to a yacht
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk
Tedious of course. Still no mention and buried. However had this been a UKIp coalition or Tory guess what?.
For what its worth, there is a bit of an 'ignore the polls' narrative emerging in the tory press...
Quite
On the plus side you get champagne for breakfast apparently, so hang in there.
If I wasn't completely knackered I would follow your advice.
I think it is time to admit that Ed is going to PM and just try and profit from it. Lab Maj is still available to back at 25 on Betfair.
Everything in my gut says '92 all over again.
Con: 31 (34)
Lab: 35 (35)
ABC1
Con: 35 (38)
Lab: 28 (33)
LD: 13 (9)
UK: 11 (9)
C2DE
Con: 27 (30)
Lab: 40 (37)
LD: 6 (5)
UK: 18 (16)
I said I thought the tories blew it at the budget. It was a complete 'meh' but worse than that, it suggested the leaders didn't realise the country doesn't want another 5 years of uncaring top down austerity from people who don't know what scraping the barrel means.
Now having said all that I think we need to be might careful. Schools are still on holiday and I'm not gonna rush this one. We need to see what happens next week.
EDIT: I don't think the Tories will panic incidentally. even if this polling continues they have decided that the country is incapable of voting EdM to be PM, a theory which has the benefit of being impossible to test until polls close.
EDIT 2: By 'they' I mean the Tory strategists. Not every Tory in the country or on this site.
It's still a Lab lead but more like a 31-33 or 32-33.
Don't know. My heart says today's significant but my head says it's just not. Need to see next week.
Southam at least has an excuse as a spurs supporter and a terrible tipster to boot.
He gets very election wrong from the USA to the Scottish referendum.
Lab 34.7
Con 32.2
UKIP 14.7
LD 8.4
Grn 4.6