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    Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    edited April 2015
    Jesus.

    Edit: Strictly speaking, Adam, as the first man.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,526
    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/586194392035241984
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,526
    https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/586194895783780353
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,937
    Ishmael_X said:

    Jesus.

    H. Christ.

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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Cons in crisis...??
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,526
    I'm so glad I've been backing a Lab majority when it went above 16.

    Was getting 42 last weekend.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,845
    edited April 2015
    Cameron, Osborne and Crosby have blown it!
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Tories down at John Major 1997 levels.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Goodbye Britain. It was nice knowing you...
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    GIN1138 said:

    Cameron, Osborne and Crosby have blown it!

    Are you trying to emulate SeanT at the IndyRef?
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,040
    I'm loving the polls :)

    Let's hope this is not a blip...
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,352
    And Miliband overtakes Cameron...
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    You can still back Labour Most Seats at 2.98 and lay David Cameron as Prime Minister after the election at 1.84.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952
    What a muggeroo!

    Went to back Lab maj at 40 in the overall Majority market, had to deposit into Betfair... put in wrong code for card.. missed the 40 took 38

    Then looked at "Next govt" market and it was 40! Had that too

    Tops up the 44 I backed earlier in the week
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,942
    edited April 2015
    Just took £8 @ 38s...

    +£1755.32 for Lab Maj on Betfair atm...
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    BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    Trying to stay calm. Great polls for Labour.

    But... but.

    Holiday effect. Only a snapshot. 4 weeks to go.

    And breathe.
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    antifrank said:

    You can still back Labour Most Seats at 2.98 and lay David Cameron as Prime Minister after the election at 1.84.

    Not on betfair

    Con 1.58-1.63
    Lab 2.62-2.72

    Fill your boots then trade out at 10.31 ?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,362
    edited April 2015
    Yebbut the Tories were 0.4% ahead across the 13 polls during the week-ending 5th April!

    And suddenly Lab are 2-3% on average ahead???
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    If Dan Hodges is right (Yes, I know, but bear with me a moment) this is helpful to the Tory campaign in the same way the YouGov outlier was helpful in the IndyRef campaign
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    So the more the Conservatives have attacked Milliband the more popular he and the Labour party have got.

    Are the Conservatives repeating SLabs "Alex Salmond" strategy from the last decade?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @JohnRentoul: Survation: Who do you think will be PM a month after the election? Cameron 43% Miliband 28% DK S'one 27% else 2% http://t.co/YE7tF3gxeK

    Exactly this. People still don't think Ed will be PM. These polls might focus some minds.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Anything that galvanises our vote suits me.
    Scott_P said:

    If Dan Hodges is right (Yes, I know, but bear with me a moment) this is helpful to the Tory campaign in the same way the YouGov outlier was helpful in the IndyRef campaign

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    DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Scott_P said:

    If Dan Hodges is right (Yes, I know, but bear with me a moment) this is helpful to the Tory campaign in the same way the YouGov outlier was helpful in the IndyRef campaign

    Better Together had the entire Establishment unified in terror. Much as they might make the pretence to be different in any meaningful way, the Tories and Labour are two cheeks of the same arse. Labour doesn't generate the fear or could guarantee a unified response across all media, business and other vested interests.

    Lynton Crosby has failed.
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952
    Bad survey for UKIP.. days average only 16.67 now

    A year ago people would have had you locked up if you had said that would happen
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    Two devastating polls, utterly seismic, which will electrify this moribund campaign.

    Truly "Black Thursday" for Cameron and the Tories, what with all the Fallon fall-out.

    A weak and unfocused campaign is literally falling apart at the seams.
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    Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Big right --> left movements in these polls, as opposed to churn within the respective sides.
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 3,949
    Alistair said:

    So the more the Conservatives have attacked Milliband the more popular he and the Labour party have got.

    Are the Conservatives repeating SLabs "Alex Salmond" strategy from the last decade?

    These polls aren't reflecting that, the sharpest attacks happened after the fieldwork (and will, in any case, never be that noticed given the constantly churning news cycle).

    Personally my skepticism about Labour continues. I suspect these polls are just setting Labour up for reversion to the mean next week - which will no doubt be accompanied by stories about why they are declining suddenly.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,080
    Tories need to squeeze UKIP down to about 10% to get up to the 36/37% they need
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,845
    edited April 2015
    Scott_P said:

    If Dan Hodges is right (Yes, I know, but bear with me a moment) this is helpful to the Tory campaign in the same way the YouGov outlier was helpful in the IndyRef campaign

    What Tory campaign?

    They've attacked Ed, announced some nonsense about porn and done a lot of puff pieces with Sam Cam...

    Is that a "campaign"? :smiley:

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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Labour facing a Terrible Backlash over their chaotic non dom policy
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    edited April 2015
    Bob__Sykes said:

    Truly "Black Thursday" for Cameron and the Tories

    And another. What happened to grit?

    EDIT "It's just a flesh wound..."
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    And we still getting Tories on here saying they having a great campaign,get out the bunker ,your losing.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,994
    Good evening, everyone.

    It's an interesting quirk that every single leader shows a decline in approval.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited April 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @JohnRentoul: Survation: Who do you think will be PM a month after the election? Cameron 43% Miliband 28% DK S'one 27% else 2% http://t.co/YE7tF3gxeK

    Exactly this. People still don't think Ed will be PM. These polls might focus some minds.

    For comparison, what were the results of similar questions before the 2010 election (if they were asked).
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    BenMBenM Posts: 1,795

    @anthonypainter: The Conservative campaign and Lynton Crosby are becoming a story.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,216
    Scott_P said:

    If Dan Hodges is right (Yes, I know, but bear with me a moment) this is helpful to the Tory campaign in the same way the YouGov outlier was helpful in the IndyRef campaign

    I seem to remember one poster (not a Nat) suggesting it was an MI5 plot to give Bettertogether a boot up the arse.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    Are these all on-line polls? How do they fit with the very narrow lead of YG yesterday? Or are we going through a sudden and dramatic mood change form the electorate. If so i'm very glad I don't live in the UK - although my pension's gonna suffer once the £ starts to slide :(
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,942
    isam said:

    What a muggeroo!

    Went to back Lab maj at 40 in the overall Majority market, had to deposit into Betfair... put in wrong code for card.. missed the 40 took 38

    Then looked at "Next govt" market and it was 40! Had that too

    Tops up the 44 I backed earlier in the week

    I did exactly the same :D
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    That's a wobbly bottom comment even for you!
    Bob__Sykes said:

    Two devastating polls, utterly seismic, which will electrify this moribund campaign.

    Truly "Black Thursday" for Cameron and the Tories, what with all the Fallon fall-out.

    A weak and unfocused campaign is literally falling apart at the seams.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,526
    What we really need to see is a phone poll or two
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    JohnRentoul: Survation: Who do you think would make the best PM? Cam 37%, EdM 25%, Farage 9%, Clegg 6% http://t.co/YE7tF3gxeK

    There is still a massive disconnect between Labour polling and Ed PM which is yet to be resolved

    It will be interesting to see whether the Scottish poll tonight continues the good news for Labour trend
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952
    Quincel said:

    Alistair said:

    So the more the Conservatives have attacked Milliband the more popular he and the Labour party have got.

    Are the Conservatives repeating SLabs "Alex Salmond" strategy from the last decade?

    These polls aren't reflecting that, the sharpest attacks happened after the fieldwork (and will, in any case, never be that noticed given the constantly churning news cycle).

    Personally my skepticism about Labour continues. I suspect these polls are just setting Labour up for reversion to the mean next week - which will no doubt be accompanied by stories about why they are declining suddenly.
    "I suspect these polls are just setting Labour up for reversion to the mean next week - which will no doubt be accompanied by stories about why they are declining suddenly"

    An oasis of sanity in a desert of polling over reactions
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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Tykejohnno said:

    And we still getting Tories on here saying they having a great campaign,get out the bunker ,your losing.

    You're a Kipper. Isn't Ed in Number 10 part of the plan for victory in 2020?
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    These polls don't mean much but they definitely mean Tories haven't achieved crossover
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    CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,856
    Theuniondivvie said:

    Scott_P said:

    If Dan Hodges is right (Yes, I know, but bear with me a moment) this is helpful to the Tory campaign in the same way the YouGov outlier was helpful in the IndyRef campaign

    I seem to remember one poster (not a Nat) suggesting it was an MI5 plot to give Bettertogether a boot up the arse.
    Well, we got the Vow. And look where it is leading.

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,942
    ED MILIBAND & NIGEL FARAGE ARE ON THE TELLY AND CAMERON ISN'T EVEN THERE next.

    Out ground-gamed and out air warred.

    Broken/sleazy etc etc.

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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    Looks like Boris will have to save the Tories and Britain.

    I didn't want the Tories to be in the desperate dire straits post May 7th to have to call upon him, but I do actually fancy his chances in 2020 against EdM.

    If these polls are supported by others in the coming days, then the focus is going to have to be on 2020 and making sure Ed is only a one term PM.
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    SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    edited April 2015
    @Bob__Sykes

    Lynton only has one mode, "smear and fear", and I am not sure the GB voters think quite the same way as the Australian ones.
    Still, time will tell.
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,711
    Feeling rather better about my betting positions this afternoon.

    Got to make some cash for those tax rises somehow!
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,101
    HYUFD said:

    Tories need to squeeze UKIP down to about 10% to get up to the 36/37% they need

    The problem is if they successfully squeeze the UKIP anti-Cameron vote they may push them into the Labour column. Especially if Labour are selling popular policies like the non-dom abolition.
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I'm very green on owls.
    Slackbladder said:

    Feeling rather better about my betting positions this afternoon.

    Got to make some cash for those tax rises somehow!

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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    Scott_P said:

    @JohnRentoul: Survation: Who do you think will be PM a month after the election? Cameron 43% Miliband 28% DK S'one 27% else 2% http://t.co/YE7tF3gxeK

    Exactly this. People still don't think Ed will be PM. These polls might focus some minds.

    And Lazy Dave doesn't even want to tell people that, preferring to focus on Salmond and Miliband. What happened to "go to bed with Nigel, wake up with Ed"? It was a winning pitch.
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    taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    ''An oasis of sanity in a desert of polling over reactions''

    To be fair, I think most tories in their heart of hearts expected to be regularly 2/4 points ahead by now.

    They'll put a brave face on it, but these are deeply shocking polls.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,937
    The GE will not have a result close to the ones suggested by these polls. There is a hell of a long time to go. Take it from a Spurs supporter: Arsenal always finish well.

    That said, has Lynton Crosby ever won a FPTP election?
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    edited April 2015
    Betfair flip flop on most seats market can be only a 4 point YG Lab lead away..
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    OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    BenM said:

    Trying to stay calm. Great polls for Labour.

    But... but.

    Holiday effect. Only a snapshot. 4 weeks to go.

    And breathe.

    Most important of all, no phone polls since ComRes and Ashcroft 10 days ago (4pt and 2pt Tory leads), with the last polls from the other phone pollsters giving 1pt leads to either side almost a month ago.
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    Plato said:

    That's a wobbly bottom comment even for you!

    Bob__Sykes said:

    Two devastating polls, utterly seismic, which will electrify this moribund campaign.

    Truly "Black Thursday" for Cameron and the Tories, what with all the Fallon fall-out.

    A weak and unfocused campaign is literally falling apart at the seams.

    It's true.

    If you disagree with me, say why and with supporting evidence.
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    CD13CD13 Posts: 6,351
    TheWatcher,

    "You're a Kipper. Isn't Ed in Number 10 part of the plan for victory in 2020?"

    It's your own fault. Soaking the rich is always popular even if it means cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    Dropping the 50p rate to 45p was bad politics. Forcing the non-doms out is good politics. That's life.
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    TheWatcher said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    And we still getting Tories on here saying they having a great campaign,get out the bunker ,your losing.

    You're a Kipper. Isn't Ed in Number 10 part of the plan for victory in 2020?
    Not part of my plan and please stop blaming ukip,it's down to the conservative party for the failings,your GE campaign so far is crap,even Tories supporters have noticed it
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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I didn't during post-Easter week. If we're in the same position mid-next week, I'll be concerned.
    taffys said:

    ''An oasis of sanity in a desert of polling over reactions''

    To be fair, I think most tories in their heart of hearts expected to be regularly 2/4 points ahead by now.

    They'll put a brave face on it, but these are deeply shocking polls.

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,526
    Could be like the 2007 Tory conference all over again.

    Christ that was scary/fun/profitable time
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Con most seats 1.6
    Lab 2.62
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,845
    edited April 2015
    isam said:

    Quincel said:

    Alistair said:

    So the more the Conservatives have attacked Milliband the more popular he and the Labour party have got.

    Are the Conservatives repeating SLabs "Alex Salmond" strategy from the last decade?

    These polls aren't reflecting that, the sharpest attacks happened after the fieldwork (and will, in any case, never be that noticed given the constantly churning news cycle).

    Personally my skepticism about Labour continues. I suspect these polls are just setting Labour up for reversion to the mean next week - which will no doubt be accompanied by stories about why they are declining suddenly.
    "I suspect these polls are just setting Labour up for reversion to the mean next week - which will no doubt be accompanied by stories about why they are declining suddenly"

    An oasis of sanity in a desert of polling over reactions
    Bob__Sykes said:

    Looks like Boris will have to save the Tories and Britain.

    I didn't want the Tories to be in the desperate dire straits post May 7th to have to call upon him, but I do actually fancy his chances in 2020 against EdM.

    If these polls are supported by others in the coming days, then the focus is going to have to be on 2020 and making sure Ed is only a one term PM.

    My focus is increasingly shifting to life after Cameron and Osborne anyway...

    If it's a minority Labour government with SNP support, the Scots Nat's could well pull the plug at any moment (we'll literally be in a knife edge of the government collapsing every single day) so we may get Ed out before 2020.

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    JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,215
    taffys said:

    ''An oasis of sanity in a desert of polling over reactions''

    To be fair, I think most tories in their heart of hearts expected to be regularly 2/4 points ahead by now.

    They'll put a brave face on it, but these are deeply shocking polls.

    Yep, I certainly fall into that category...and so yes I'm concerned but I don't do panic ( must be the 40 years of so as a minor hack, I mean veteran). We need the phone polls and a few days to see if the Labour lead is sustained.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,942
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Could be like the 2007 Tory conference all over again.

    Christ that was scary/fun/profitable time

    Lynton's methods put me right off, I can't be alone in that.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    More comedy polling from the net.

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    TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    Tykejohnno said:

    TheWatcher said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    And we still getting Tories on here saying they having a great campaign,get out the bunker ,your losing.

    You're a Kipper. Isn't Ed in Number 10 part of the plan for victory in 2020?
    Not part of my plan and please stop blaming ukip,it's down to the conservative party for the failings,your GE campaign so far is crap,even Tories supporters have noticed it
    I'm simply curious as to why you're so concerned about the apparent fate of the Tories, when they're perceived as the enemy by Farage and Co. It's odd.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,362
    How do this week's polls fit in with this graph?

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/585149148980187136
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    Innocent_AbroadInnocent_Abroad Posts: 3,294
    Tory panic. Margins of error - the Parties could be level pegging. And the Lamb of God had always expected to trail at this stage. But not for much longer...
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    nu123nu123 Posts: 25
    Headless chicken time for the tories?

    LOL It's their own fault. Their campaign has been really uninspiring so far. Also you can't say it's a Easter holiday blip as the lead is too big.
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    Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,176
    With the exception of a good and well-received Budget (albeit uninspiring), it's been a disastrous opening to the campaign from the Conservatives. I can hardly cite a positive thing about it.

    What on earth are they playing at?

    Why didn't they have their manifesto ready by the end of March with some exciting and eye-catching ideas in it for their activists to go out and sell? Folk will be sending postal votes back before there's even a sniff of what the manifesto contains.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    edited April 2015
    TGOHF said:

    Con most seats 1.6
    Lab 2.62

    About as close as the betting markets can get to the golden ratio.

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    nu123nu123 Posts: 25
    Time to announce a two pence tax cut to income tax most voters don't understand raising the threshold thing.
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    QuincelQuincel Posts: 3,949
    taffys said:

    ''An oasis of sanity in a desert of polling over reactions''

    To be fair, I think most tories in their heart of hearts expected to be regularly 2/4 points ahead by now.

    They'll put a brave face on it, but these are deeply shocking polls.

    True. These polls may not be quite accurate but the shatter the idea of any crossover at the moment. And with 28 days to go that alone is bad news for the Tories.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    UKIP on 18.....in London.......SNP on 56

    Looking forward to when the serious pollsters start.
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,216
    Survation Scottish subsample SNP 51%, Slab 26%.

    All England then..
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    CD13CD13 Posts: 6,351
    BenM,

    The Conservative campaign and Lynton Crosby are becoming a story."

    You do realise that only about 1% of the population know the connection?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,080
    WilliamGlen Not if they focus on the EU referendum pledge Ed M opposes
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    How do this week's polls fit in with this graph?

    Dead cat bounce ;)

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    PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Well quite. Over-reacting to polls in a serious way makes me wonder about the sanity of some posters.

    We can have fun or exploit headless chicken reactions by others - but I won't be knee-jerking based on these.
    chestnut said:

    UKIP on 18.....in London.......SNP on 56

    Looking forward to when the serious pollsters start.

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    nu123nu123 Posts: 25
    "UKIP on 18.....in London.......SNP on 56

    Looking forward to when the serious pollsters start." How many times does it have to be said on this site that sub-samples don't mean sh*t. Oh well I guess Tories will be hoping for cross over until after the election...
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    isamisam Posts: 40,952
    edited April 2015
    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Could be like the 2007 Tory conference all over again.

    Christ that was scary/fun/profitable time

    Lynton's methods put me right off, I can't be alone in that.

    Every little helps!

    Overall Majority
    Back
    Conservative Majority 8.2 £12.00 £86.40
    Ref: 48739617660 Bet matched:17:24 09-Apr-15

    Next Govt
    Lay
    Con Majority 8 £10.00 £70.00
    Ref: 48739628200 Bet matched: 17:24 09-Apr-15
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Look at the DE weightings on Survation.........

    Dearie me.
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,040
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    How do this week's polls fit in with this graph?

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/585149148980187136

    It's time for a part-ELBOW methinks...
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    nu123nu123 Posts: 25
    God help us if Miliband actually gets a majority. Not sure which is worse though Miliband majority or assortment of left parties in coalition.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,845
    Bob__Sykes said:



    Why didn't they have their manifesto ready by the end of March with some exciting and eye-catching ideas in it for their activists to go out and sell? Folk will be sending postal votes back before there's even a sniff of what the manifesto contains.

    It is a quite extrodinarily terrible "campaign" so far. Infact you can't call it a campaign to be honest...

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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Look

    We are going to get an Ed clusterfuck government

    Anyone with any shrewd intellect will have already and certainly now be calculating how to steer clear of the final Labour catastrophe.

    To any lefties I worked fecking hard for my skills and my money, my business and those I do employ.

    I am not ever again going to let Labour use that money in a public urinal.

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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    TheWatcher said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    TheWatcher said:

    Tykejohnno said:

    And we still getting Tories on here saying they having a great campaign,get out the bunker ,your losing.

    You're a Kipper. Isn't Ed in Number 10 part of the plan for victory in 2020?
    Not part of my plan and please stop blaming ukip,it's down to the conservative party for the failings,your GE campaign so far is crap,even Tories supporters have noticed it
    I'm simply curious as to why you're so concerned about the apparent fate of the Tories, when they're perceived as the enemy by Farage and Co. It's odd.
    I've posted earlier on here,you might have missed it.

    I posted that I think a labour government will take the country backwards and my feelings right now is for a con government

    But I will still be voting kipper,labour and respect fight where I live.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    nu123 said:

    "UKIP on 18.....in London.......SNP on 56

    Looking forward to when the serious pollsters start." How many times does it have to be said on this site that sub-samples don't mean sh*t. Oh well I guess Tories will be hoping for cross over until after the election...

    They mean plenty when you see 30+% of the sample are unqualified, unemployed, unskilled etc...

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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,845
    Moses_ said:

    Look

    We are going to get an Ed clusterfuck government

    Anyone with any shrewd intellect will have already and certainly now be calculating how to steer clear of the final Labour catastrophe.

    To any lefties I worked fecking hard for my skills and my money, my business and those I do employ.

    I am not ever again going to let Labour use that money in a public urinal.

    Our business won't survive another Labour financial disaster that's for sure...
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    chestnut said:

    Look at the DE weightings on Survation.........

    Dearie me.

    I'm sure they are "adjusted" - for Easter...
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Moses_ said:

    Look

    We are going to get an Ed clusterfuck government

    Anyone with any shrewd intellect will have already and certainly now be calculating how to steer clear of the final Labour catastrophe.

    To any lefties I worked fecking hard for my skills and my money, my business and those I do employ.

    I am not ever again going to let Labour use that money in a public urinal.

    Calm down dear.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @MSmithsonPB: This could all the Cleggasm of 2015. There are 4 weeks still to go.

    :-)

    Maybe Dave can win here...
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    noisywinternoisywinter Posts: 249
    I wish the markets hadn't closed and I could cash out my equities

    I seriously think there's gonna be a very red ed day on the markets tomorow

    At least my laying Con position (-3.2k con, +5.6k lab) compensates a bit.

    I will have serious contempt for the general public if this comes about
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    I've just taken £25 at 32 on Betfair LAB majority.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    May2015 Election @May2015NS · 1m 1 minute ago
    Labour jump into a 3.3% point lead on http://May2015.com after two polls give them big leads.

    LAB—35.0
    CON—31.7
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    TGOHF said:

    chestnut said:

    Look at the DE weightings on Survation.........

    Dearie me.

    I'm sure they are "adjusted" - for Easter...
    Survation polling was 8th/9th so Easter is no excuse
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    Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Pong said:

    Moses_ said:

    Look

    We are going to get an Ed clusterfuck government

    Anyone with any shrewd intellect will have already and certainly now be calculating how to steer clear of the final Labour catastrophe.

    To any lefties I worked fecking hard for my skills and my money, my business and those I do employ.

    I am not ever again going to let Labour use that money in a public urinal.

    Calm down dear.
    Quite calm Pong, really I am. I and many others are just being realistic. That's how we employ many and make money which of course benefits the exchequer both ways.

    Until 7 th may

    ;-)
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    TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    MarkSenior said:

    TGOHF said:

    chestnut said:

    Look at the DE weightings on Survation.........

    Dearie me.

    I'm sure they are "adjusted" - for Easter...
    Survation polling was 8th/9th so Easter is no excuse

    I was being sarcastic - these are bad polls for the Cons
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    MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    I know everyone is focussed on May, but this is more interesting polling on the status of Hillary post emailgate and with fresh-breaking news of more major foreign government donations to the Clinton Foundation.

    I don't know the answer to this, but I wonder if an electorate could elect someone they find not to be honest and trustworthy. I doubt this will factor much with the core Dem vote, but could it kill her chances with the independents in swing states?

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/04/09/early-poll-hillary-clinton-would-face-tight-races-in-iowa-colorado/
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