Ha! My day is officially made. The guy is a GENUINE retired colonel!! No, really. From the article:
“I’ve been through dangerous situations in Pakistan and South America and you negotiate them: I’ve had a sixteen-year-old shove a machine gun up my nose in Nicaragua. I’ve faced bigger threats from real killers and if they think they can walk up to me and push me then I’ll push back. I’ve never run away from anything.”
He gave the fuzzy-wuzzies what for, I'm sure. What?
Margaret Davis @MargaretDavisPA 1m PA snap: Prime Minister David Cameron has called on South Yorkshire PCC Shaun Wright to quit in the wake of the Rotherham abuse report.
Must be a look squirrel moment for him for some reason.
It's like a comedy sketch: "Prime Minister, Douglas Carswell has defected to UKIP, what should we do?" "I'll call for Shaun Wright to resign"
The Tories must be hoping Wright resigns and the by-election is called for the same day as the Clacton by-election so that UKIP resources are stretched between the two contests.
Not necessarily. It's possible the local UKIP branch selected a candidate without informing national party headquarters.
This would seem to be supported by the fact that Farage didn't make any comment about there already being a candidate in Clacton who he would like to kindly ask to step aside. I'm sure he would have said something like that if he knew there was already a candidate in place.
Surely they can't be that much of a shambles.
A much more likely explanation is that Farage doesn't care a toss what the local association think (and quite rightly so, to be honest, if UKIP want to be a serious party).
I guess it could get awkward if Mr Lord persists in refusing to deselect himself...
BBC - "The police force at the centre of the Rotherham child abuse scandal is still failing to record crimes against children properly, a report has said.
South Yorkshire Police's public protection unit spent a "great deal of time" trying to "disprove" allegations, said HM Inspectorate of Constabulary.
It said the force's public protection unit showed "a disregard for victims"."
'trying to disprove allegations' ? - What the hell are South York's constabulary playing at, I thought their job was to investigate all crimes impartially, not automatically assume a position of Devil's Advocate.
Margaret Davis @MargaretDavisPA 1m PA snap: Prime Minister David Cameron has called on South Yorkshire PCC Shaun Wright to quit in the wake of the Rotherham abuse report.
Must be a look squirrel moment for him for some reason.
It's like a comedy sketch: "Prime Minister, Douglas Carswell has defected to UKIP, what should we do?" "I'll call for Shaun Wright to resign"
The Tories must be hoping Wright resigns and the by-election is called for the same day as the Clacton by-election so that UKIP resources are stretched between the two contests.
1. Wright is in it (probably) for the money and the protection the job offers, he won't resign. 2. Between a PCC and an MP who would you choose to have as a party? An MP of course.
...... why would the Bank of England support the Scottish banking sector, if a currency union had not been agreed? Indeed, who would provide liquidity support and emergency funding to this banking mountain?
I asked the First Minister this question four times yesterday, and did not get an answer. It is a legitimate question for the people of Scotland, and also the people in the rest of the UK. Mr Salmond continued with me, his debate performance from the night before, saying that I was “impersonating” Alistair Darling, telling me to “Get with the debate, man”.
Because the first thing Cameron did wouldn't be to call up his mates in the press to spin it the way the Tory leader wanted it in a pre-agreed line?
Don't be daft. Carswell could and should have let him know, just before the public announcement.
I'm very surprised at his discourtesy. I imagine it was an oversight, because I've always regarded him as a very decent and honourable man.
I wonder how soon he'll fall out with Farage. Carswell is in many ways an über-Cameroon; a lot of his complaints seem to be that there hasn't been enough of the type of reform he and Cameron were pushing for in the early days
The trouble with you, and people like you is that you do not understand UKIP as a party and as a phenomenon. More, you have not bothered to understand, closing your eyes, hoping against hope that it will go away. Well get used to it: UKIP is not what it was in 2010, or 2013 or even last month. It's the only political party that is growing and bringing in new recruits and supporters. Time you stopped being peevish and look into the heart of what the Conservative party have become.
Not necessarily. It's possible the local UKIP branch selected a candidate without informing national party headquarters.
This would seem to be supported by the fact that Farage didn't make any comment about there already being a candidate in Clacton who he would like to kindly ask to step aside. I'm sure he would have said something like that if he knew there was already a candidate in place.
Surely they can't be that much of a shambles.
A much more likely explanation is that Farage doesn't care a toss what the local association think (and quite rightly so, to be honest, if UKIP want to be a serious party).
I guess it could get awkward if Mr Lord persists in refusing to deselect himself...
All of the parties are in a shambles on that score.
For example, compare the official party candidate lists with the selected candidates on my spreadsheet. Many locally selected candidates are missing from the official lists.
"There are currently 75 Prospective Parliamentary Candidates (PPCs). You can search through them by name or by the constituency they represent."
BBC - "The police force at the centre of the Rotherham child abuse scandal is still failing to record crimes against children properly, a report has said.
South Yorkshire Police's public protection unit spent a "great deal of time" trying to "disprove" allegations, said HM Inspectorate of Constabulary.
It said the force's public protection unit showed "a disregard for victims"."
'trying to disprove allegations' ? - What the hell are South York's constabulary playing at, I thought their job was to investigate all crimes impartially, not automatically assume a position of Devil's Advocate.
Newspeak from Rotherham.
SYP - Public Protection Unit. RMBC - Where Everyone Matters. Safeguarding Children's Board.
1) You wanted to spend around £100 to 200 million on a referendum on a treaty that had already been signed, in order to make a 'clear statement'. The AV and Scottish Independence referendums have shown us how difficult it is to get a 'yes' even when the headline consequences of a result are fixed and known. Your referendum would have been laughed down, and a meaningful EU vote put back for a generation.
2) 'Unlike you apparently'. It is because I value my family and friends that I find UKIP and many - although far from all - of its supporters anathema. You pretend to be a Libertarian and against the EU - I'm quite amazed how you can marry that with political support for Nick Palmer. Whilst Nick might be a thoroughly good egg in private, he's not exactly an exemplar of those two traits politically. There is a difference between having someone as a friend and supporting them politically, which you have done on here passim.
3) My comprehension of history is as good and/or flawed as anyone else's. This is the funniest of your rebuttals: you were floundering so invented two 'principles' which magically only apply to the Syrian intervention. I did not want an intervention last year from any gung-ho militaristic fervour (as you claimed before as part of a series of slurs); I supported it reluctantly because I could see we were on the cusp of something much worse, and because the use of chemical weapons should be punished. I was proved right.
I see you try to insult me three times in your screed above. Perhaps you should leave off such pathetic attacks and examine your own principles instead.
Interesting that your reply did nothing to deny the consistency of my position - which was of course your original smear. All you have said is that you disagree with my views - which of course you are entitled to do.
Given your performance over the last few months and your ability to twist the truth I am not surprised that you have found yourself unable to support your rather stupid allegations.
Clearly your inability to understand the concept of a principled position is what attracts you to Cameron.
I've shown your position on all those things is thoroughly inconsistent.
How have I 'twisted the truth'? I may make factual mistakes from time to time, but I've owned up to mistakes in the past, and I'm not aware of anywhere that I have posted outright lies. I also post frequent links to back up positions.
And I am not attracted to Cameron. Now, if you'd said Mary Creagh, Claire Perry, Rachel Flint, Priti Patel or Charlotte Lesley ...
Carswell is the sort of politician we need more of, on both left and right. Decent, honest, hardworking, and independently minded. I may not agree with everything he says, but I like his honesty, especially his decision to put his job on the line. I hope he gets back in.
Seconded
Thirded. I think he's made a mistake, but I've applauded him in the past, and I'll applaud him for following his conscience. Most remarkably of all, he's called a by-election. I think he'll win, but at least he'll give the voters a choice.
If it's true he did not tell Cameron in advance, then that's a little off. But as afar as I'm aware that's just a rumour.
(On a side note, I find myself slightly contradictory on this. I've always said 'vote for a candidate rather than a party', yet have always thought that a sitting MP changing parties should resign for a by-election. I'm not sure how I can thoroughly combine those two positions).
On the side note: there is of course a difference - in the first case, the voter knows what is being voted for, both candidate and party. The second case breaks this implicit promise/contract and resignation is therefore indeed the correct option. No inconsistency at all in your thinking methinks.
There is a problem in Scotland because certain MSPs are selected on party alone - the list MSPs. When a list MSP changes parties in mid term (or becomes independent, in the sense of being non-party, as happened with the two who resigned over the NATO vote within the SNP) there is an even stronger case for expecting resignation. On the other hand, if the person was 2nd or 3rd on the list, a by election often simply replicates the first person's success on the list without being a true repeat. This also makes the interpretation of such by elections in local government difficult for similar reasons.
BBC - "The police force at the centre of the Rotherham child abuse scandal is still failing to record crimes against children properly, a report has said.
South Yorkshire Police's public protection unit spent a "great deal of time" trying to "disprove" allegations, said HM Inspectorate of Constabulary.
It said the force's public protection unit showed "a disregard for victims"."
'trying to disprove allegations' ? - What the hell are South York's constabulary playing at, I thought their job was to investigate all crimes impartially, not automatically assume a position of Devil's Advocate.
Newspeak from Rotherham.
SYP - Public Protection Unit. RMBC - Where Everyone Matters. Safeguarding Children's Board.
Who put the rot into Rotherham?
The left and their cronies only get exercised over free market paedophilia
The trouble with you, and people like you is that you do not understand UKIP as a party and as a phenomenon. More, you have not bothered to understand, closing your eyes, hoping against hope that it will go away. Well get used to it: UKIP is not what it was in 2010, or 2013 or even last month. It's the only political party that is growing and bringing in new recruits and supporters. Time you stopped being peevish and look into the heart of what the Conservative party have become.
No, I don't pretend to understand what on earth UKIP think they are doing. Clearly it's nothing to do with the EU.
Still, I understand a bit of the motivation:
"We’ve proved we can succeed and take on the establishment. But now the establishment is wanting to join us. ... It’s an insult to the electors for politicians to think their votes can be traded.”
Good rousing stuff, eh?
Well, the said gentleman is just about to discover that professional politicans like Nigel Farage do indeed think their votes can be traded.
Because the first thing Cameron did wouldn't be to call up his mates in the press to spin it the way the Tory leader wanted it in a pre-agreed line?
Don't be daft. Carswell could and should have let him know, just before the public announcement.
I'm very surprised at his discourtesy. I imagine it was an oversight, because I've always regarded him as a very decent and honourable man.
I wonder how soon he'll fall out with Farage. Carswell is in many ways an über-Cameroon; a lot of his complaints seem to be that there hasn't been enough of the type of reform he and Cameron were pushing for in the early days
The trouble with you, and people like you is that you do not understand UKIP as a party and as a phenomenon. More, you have not bothered to understand, closing your eyes, hoping against hope that it will go away. Well get used to it: UKIP is not what it was in 2010, or 2013 or even last month. It's the only political party that is growing and bringing in new recruits and supporters. Time you stopped being peevish and look into the heart of what the Conservative party have become.
Not the only one. SNP is, or has been, growing, and I also wonder about the Scottish Greens and Socialists - and possibly even the Scottish Tories.
Margaret Davis @MargaretDavisPA 1m PA snap: Prime Minister David Cameron has called on South Yorkshire PCC Shaun Wright to quit in the wake of the Rotherham abuse report.
Must be a look squirrel moment for him for some reason.
It's like a comedy sketch: "Prime Minister, Douglas Carswell has defected to UKIP, what should we do?" "I'll call for Shaun Wright to resign"
The Tories must be hoping Wright resigns and the by-election is called for the same day as the Clacton by-election so that UKIP resources are stretched between the two contests.
1. Wright is in it (probably) for the money and the protection the job offers, he won't resign. 2. Between a PCC and an MP who would you choose to have as a party? An MP of course.
I agree it would be clutching at straws, but in times of crisis one grasps at anything.
South Yorkshire Police officer Daniel Cookson, 27, who was previously based in Rotherham, has been charged with causing a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity, his force said today. It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008. Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
South Yorkshire Police officer Daniel Cookson, 27, who was previously based in Rotherham, has been charged with causing a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity, his force said today. It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008. Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
South Yorkshire Police officer Daniel Cookson, 27, who was previously based in Rotherham, has been charged with causing a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity, his force said today. It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008. Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
South Yorkshire Police officer Daniel Cookson, 27, who was previously based in Rotherham, has been charged with causing a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity, his force said today. It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008. Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
The trouble with you, and people like you is that you do not understand UKIP as a party and as a phenomenon. More, you have not bothered to understand, closing your eyes, hoping against hope that it will go away. Well get used to it: UKIP is not what it was in 2010, or 2013 or even last month. It's the only political party that is growing and bringing in new recruits and supporters. Time you stopped being peevish and look into the heart of what the Conservative party have become.
No, I don't pretend to understand what on earth UKIP think they are doing. Clearly it's nothing to do with the EU.
Still, I understand a bit of the motivation:
"We’ve proved we can succeed and take on the establishment. But now the establishment is wanting to join us. ... It’s an insult to the electors for politicians to think their votes can be traded.”
Good rousing stuff, eh?
Well, the said gentleman is just about to discover that professional politicans like Nigel Farage do indeed think their votes can be traded.
Amusing, isn't it?
Almost as funny as the prospect of the local candidate slugging it out with Farage, Carswell and UKIP's London HQ.
South Yorkshire Police officer Daniel Cookson, 27, who was previously based in Rotherham, has been charged with causing a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity, his force said today. It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008. Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
"Douglas Carswell's defection is not just a blow to David Cameron - it shows the Tory party is too divided to stand up for hard-working families."
Could Miliband have issued a more cliched line?
May be cliched but it's true.
People are struggling to pay the bills and keep their heads above water and all "The Right" are interested in is fighting like ferrets in a sack over something most people regard as an obscure side issue like the EU.
Afternoon all. Just catching up on all the excitement. Must confess to being a little bit surprised by the timing. Custom and precedent say that this sort of thing should wait until Mike is on holiday.
"Douglas Carswell's defection is not just a blow to David Cameron - it shows the Tory party is too divided to stand up for hard-working families."
Could Miliband have issued a more cliched line?
May be cliched but it's true.
People are struggling to pay the bills and keep their heads above water and all "The Right" are interested in is fighting like ferrets in a sack over something most people regard as an obscure side issue like the EU.
No, that's what Carswell is doing. Cameron is 'just getting on with the job'
Dan Hodges tweets: Roger Lord. Clacton candidate. “If Mr Carswell wants to join us then he can get in the queue and hand out leaflets with the rest of us".
Dan Hodges tweets: Roger Lord. Clacton candidate. “If Mr Carswell wants to join us then he can get in the queue and hand out leaflets with the rest of us".
Immigration of non-EU citizens has been declining over the last three years. The latest estimates show that this decline has ended with 265,000 non-EU citizens immigrating to the UK in the year ending March 2014 compared to 246,000 in the previous year.
"Douglas Carswell's defection is not just a blow to David Cameron - it shows the Tory party is too divided to stand up for hard-working families."
Could Miliband have issued a more cliched line?
May be cliched but it's true.
People are struggling to pay the bills and keep their heads above water and all "The Right" are interested in is fighting like ferrets in a sack over something most people regard as an obscure side issue like the EU.
No, that's what Carswell is doing. Cameron is 'just getting on with the job'
Well yeah, but look at John Major.
When a party starts ripping itself apart over something the rest of the public finds as silly and obscure, it's the PM who ultimately carries the can.
And I speak as someone who wants a referendum and would probably vote OUT given the opportunity.
South Yorkshire Police officer Daniel Cookson, 27, who was previously based in Rotherham, has been charged with causing a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity, his force said today. It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008. Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
(what is the UKIP position on the deficit, by the way - will the famous abandoning of 0.7% of GDP on aid become their multi-committed bankers bonus bonanza?).
That's the curious thing. UKIP has recently morphed into a deficit-denial party. They want to:
- Retain the spare-room subsidy - 'Protect your benefits' - Big reductions in income tax - A new Veterans' Department - An end to hospital parking charges
All to be paid for by (yes, you were right) 'looking at' overseas aid, and some unspecified savings from the Department for Energy & Climate Change (which doesn't spend much) and Business, Innovation and Skills.
You know what motivates Kippers. It isn't economics. It's not even Europe particularly.
David Cameron should have shown some leadership and taken on the fruitcake tendency in his party. Instead the jelly-spined idiot tried to triangulate his way out trouble by throwing them some morsels. Predictably enough, it just made the situation worse. The man is pathetic.
Was there a particular problem specific to Rotherham? Did Labour's total dominance of this authority allow a complacent, rotten culture to develop? Was the political opposition so enfeebled that effective challenge to the leadership was striking by its absence?
The problem with Carswell is he is a libertarian, obsessed by the EU and esoteric constitutional issues. Not really the direction and issues UKIP need to focus on, especially libertarianism.
Of course, Douglas Carswell has always been a strong advocate of Open Primaries:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZZwtX3YC0k
So presumably it was a minor and temporary aberration that he seemed to think he was a shoo-in to displace the hapless Mr Lord as UKIP candidate in Clacton (not that there is a vacancy, it seems). No doubt he will rectify this as soon as he remembers his principles.
Our lordship seems to have fallen for a likely spoof account, as of course did Louise...
Lord Ashcroft@LordAshcroft·4 mins RT @RogerLordUKIP I've had machine guns up my conk Nigel... I'm not bloody going anywhere.>>>oh oh the Clacton UKIP candidate gets ........
1) You wanted to spend around £100 to 200 million on a referendum on a treaty that had already been signed, in order to make a 'clear statement'. The AV and Scottish Independence referendums have shown us how difficult it is to get a 'yes' even when the headline consequences of a result are fixed and known. Your referendum would have been laughed down, and a meaningful EU vote put back for a generation.
2) 'Unlike you apparently'. It is because I value my family and friends that I find UKIP and many - although far from all - of its supporters anathema. You pretend to be a Libertarian and against the EU - I'm quite amazed how you can marry that with political support for Nick Palmer. Whilst Nick might be a thoroughly good egg in private, he's not exactly an exemplar of those two traits politically. There is a difference between having someone as a friend and supporting them politically, which you have done on here passim.
3) My comprehension of history is as good and/or flawed as anyone else's. This is the funniest of your rebuttals: you were floundering so invented two 'principles' which magically only apply to the Syrian intervention. I did not want an intervention last year from any gung-ho militaristic fervour (as you claimed before as part of a series of slurs); I supported it reluctantly because I could see we were on the cusp of something much worse, and because the use of chemical weapons should be punished. I was proved right.
I see you try to insult me three times in your screed above. Perhaps you should leave off such pathetic attacks and examine your own principles instead.
Interesting that your reply did nothing to deny the consistency of my position - which was of course your original smear. All you have said is that you disagree with my views - which of course you are entitled to do.
Given your performance over the last few months and your ability to twist the truth I am not surprised that you have found yourself unable to support your rather stupid allegations.
Clearly your inability to understand the concept of a principled position is what attracts you to Cameron.
I've shown your position on all those things is thoroughly inconsistent.
How have I 'twisted the truth'? I may make factual mistakes from time to time, but I've owned up to mistakes in the past, and I'm not aware of anywhere that I have posted outright lies. I also post frequent links to back up positions.
And I am not attracted to Cameron. Now, if you'd said Mary Creagh, Claire Perry, Rachel Flint, Priti Patel or Charlotte Lesley ...
No, you are just too stupid to understand the principles involved. Though I will grant you it is probably wilful ignorance. But then you are blinded by Cameroon beliefs which probably accounts for your lack of understanding.
No, you are just too stupid to understand the principles involved. Though I will grant you it is probably wilful ignorance. But then you are blinded by Cameroon beliefs which probably accounts for your lack of understanding.
So now you call me stupid, and blinded by Cameron.
I think you've lost the argument, mate. If not the plot.
Jim Pickard@PickardJE·1 min Roger Lord, ex Ukip Clacton candidate: "I had a call from the party secretary threatening to throw me out of the party if I don't shut up."
No, you are just too stupid to understand the principles involved. Though I will grant you it is probably wilful ignorance. But then you are blinded by Cameroon beliefs which probably accounts for your lack of understanding.
So now you call me stupid, and blinded by Cameron.
I think you've lost the argument, mate. If not the plot.
Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.....
"Roger Lord is not now, nor has he ever been the by-election [candidate] for Clacton. ... Roger Lord is mistaken in his belief that he is the candidate and he can best serve the party’s and the county’s interests by standing behind the decision of the NEC”
Not the question, is it? Was Mr Lord selected for May 2015, and, if so, will that continue (presumably not?)? If so, then, has he been deselected by fiat?
There's not a chance that Mr. Lord will remain in place.
Can UKIP organise a byelection in a brewery, or was the party caught off-guard by Carswell's defection?
Their priority was obviously (and sensibly) to keep the defection from leaking. Presumably it was on a need to know basis, and Mr Lord didn't need to know until now.
Has there been any comment from Paul Nuttall? Have assumed he'd be next in line for the throne if Farage steps back. But - Carswell?
Carswell would be a disaster as leader of any party. He's a decent man, but as noted in this thread he's highly independent (erratic) and you would never quite know what his position is on any given subject.
Moreover he's obsessed with obscure constitutional and procedural stuff which has absolutely no interest to 99% of the population.
Finally he just seems slightly strange and not someone regular people would be able to relate to.
You couldn't fine someone more unfit to lead a political party.
Jim Pickard@PickardJE·1 min Roger Lord, ex Ukip Clacton candidate: "I had a call from the party secretary threatening to throw me out of the party if I don't shut up."
“I’ve been through dangerous situations in Pakistan and South America and you negotiate them: I’ve had a sixteen-year-old shove a machine gun up my nose in Nicaragua. I’ve faced bigger threats from real killers and if they think they can walk up to me and push me then I’ll push back. I’ve never run away from anything.”
Has there been any comment from Paul Nuttall? Have assumed he'd be next in line for the throne if Farage steps back. But - Carswell?
Carswell would be a disaster as leader of any party. He's a decent man, but as noted in this thread he's highly independent (erratic) and you would never quite know what his position is on any given subject.
Moreover he's obsessed with obscure constitutional and procedural stuff which has absolutely no interest to 99% of the population.
Finally he just seems slightly strange and not someone regular people would be able to relate to.
You couldn't fine someone more unfit to lead a political party.
"Roger Lord is not now, nor has he ever been the by-election [candidate] for Clacton. ... Roger Lord is mistaken in his belief that he is the candidate and he can best serve the party’s and the county’s interests by standing behind the decision of the NEC”
Not the question, is it? Was Mr Lord selected for May 2015, and, if so, will that continue (presumably not?)? If so, then, has he been deselected by fiat?
According to twitter, UKIP have a provision for by-elections that has their NEC select the candidate.
He's an entertaining twitter follow.
Roger Lord UKIP @RogerLordUKIP 14m I challenge you @DouglasCarswell to a duel. I will have satisfaction at this outrage you and Nigel have schemed like thieves in the night.
(If that's him, which is a big if, to say quite probably not).
Tensions seem to be up within the Tory party, I vision accusations and counter accusations between euroskeptics and europhiles (actually I already see them on twitter but that doesn't count). It's like 1995 again.
Any lack of co-ordination could hamper the by-election campaign behind the scenes.
Unfortunately for Carswell comments such as "a Tory in Ukip clothing" and "carpetbagging" tend to stick. He is also banking on some of those Clacton Tories coming across with him-a few councillors would be a coup.This too might be easier said than done.If it doesn't happen he will have lost both Tory and Ukip local support.All of this should be organised and co-ordinated and it clearly isn't.
Ha! My day is officially made. The guy is a GENUINE retired colonel!! No, really. From the article:
“I’ve been through dangerous situations in Pakistan and South America and you negotiate them: I’ve had a sixteen-year-old shove a machine gun up my nose in Nicaragua. I’ve faced bigger threats from real killers and if they think they can walk up to me and push me then I’ll push back. I’ve never run away from anything.”
He gave the fuzzy-wuzzies what for, I'm sure. What?
BBC - "The police force at the centre of the Rotherham child abuse scandal is still failing to record crimes against children properly, a report has said.
South Yorkshire Police's public protection unit spent a "great deal of time" trying to "disprove" allegations, said HM Inspectorate of Constabulary.
It said the force's public protection unit showed "a disregard for victims"."
'trying to disprove allegations' ? - What the hell are South York's constabulary playing at, I thought their job was to investigate all crimes impartially, not automatically assume a position of Devil's Advocate.
Newspeak from Rotherham.
SYP - Public Protection Unit. RMBC - Where Everyone Matters. Safeguarding Children's Board.
Who put the rot into Rotherham?
The left and their cronies only get exercised over free market paedophilia
South Yorkshire Police officer Daniel Cookson, 27, who was previously based in Rotherham, has been charged with causing a 15-year-old girl to engage in sexual activity, his force said today. It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008. Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/normantebbit/100284355/the-house-of-commons-needs-men-like-douglas-carswell-i-would-not-campaign-against-him/
The current Ukip candidate sounds like an SAS trained mercenary.The outcome could be bloody for Carswell.
A much more likely explanation is that Farage doesn't care a toss what the local association think (and quite rightly so, to be honest, if UKIP want to be a serious party).
I guess it could get awkward if Mr Lord persists in refusing to deselect himself...
South Yorkshire Police's public protection unit spent a "great deal of time" trying to "disprove" allegations, said HM Inspectorate of Constabulary.
It said the force's public protection unit showed "a disregard for victims"."
'trying to disprove allegations' ? - What the hell are South York's constabulary playing at, I thought their job was to investigate all crimes impartially, not automatically assume a position of Devil's Advocate.
2. Between a PCC and an MP who would you choose to have as a party? An MP of course.
LATEST:David Cameron says it would be "right decision" for South Yorkshire police commissioner Shaun Wright to resign over abuse report.
BBC Ticker.
I asked the First Minister this question four times yesterday, and did not get an answer. It is a legitimate question for the people of Scotland, and also the people in the rest of the UK. Mr Salmond continued with me, his debate performance from the night before, saying that I was “impersonating” Alistair Darling, telling me to “Get with the debate, man”.
https://medium.com/@faisalislam/salmond-declares-victory-in-the-currency-war-295aaada44be
This is all hugely enjoyable.
For example, compare the official party candidate lists with the selected candidates on my spreadsheet. Many locally selected candidates are missing from the official lists.
"There are currently 75 Prospective Parliamentary Candidates (PPCs). You can search through them by name or by the constituency they represent."
http://www.conservatives.com/OurTeam/Prospective_Parliamentary_Candidates.aspx?by=name&letter=
I have 128 Conservative non-incumbents selected, based on official local party reports:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At91c3wX1Wu5dFkzTjFrRmJRN3F6ODBTTEs4NGFhcUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
So there are 53 missing from the national list.
SYP - Public Protection Unit.
RMBC - Where Everyone Matters.
Safeguarding Children's Board.
Who put the rot into Rotherham?
How have I 'twisted the truth'? I may make factual mistakes from time to time, but I've owned up to mistakes in the past, and I'm not aware of anywhere that I have posted outright lies. I also post frequent links to back up positions.
And I am not attracted to Cameron. Now, if you'd said Mary Creagh, Claire Perry, Rachel Flint, Priti Patel or Charlotte Lesley ...
There is a problem in Scotland because certain MSPs are selected on party alone - the list MSPs. When a list MSP changes parties in mid term (or becomes independent, in the sense of being non-party, as happened with the two who resigned over the NATO vote within the SNP) there is an even stronger case for expecting resignation. On the other hand, if the person was 2nd or 3rd on the list, a by election often simply replicates the first person's success on the list without being a true repeat. This also makes the interpretation of such by elections in local government difficult for similar reasons.
Still, I understand a bit of the motivation:
"We’ve proved we can succeed and take on the establishment. But now the establishment is wanting to join us. ... It’s an insult to the electors for politicians to think their votes can be traded.”
Good rousing stuff, eh?
Well, the said gentleman is just about to discover that professional politicans like Nigel Farage do indeed think their votes can be traded.
Amusing, isn't it?
It comes after a report revealed at least 1,400 girls were sexually exploited in the town between 1997 and 2008.
Cookson, who was arrested in November, was charged on August 21 but South Yorkshire Police released the information only today.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2736845/BREAKING-NEWS-Former-Rotherham-police-officer-charged-causing-girl-15-engage-sexual-activity.html#ixzz3BhbvPZ9E
SYP seem remarkably keen to speak to the rest of the media again.
http://politicalbookie.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/which-tory-mp-will-defect-next-the-latest-betting-from-ladbrokes/
He was arrested in November last year and charged on August 21
Alleged offence was committed between March and November last year
People are struggling to pay the bills and keep their heads above water and all "The Right" are interested in is fighting like ferrets in a sack over something most people regard as an obscure side issue like the EU.
Must confess to being a little bit surprised by the timing.
Custom and precedent say that this sort of thing should wait until Mike is on holiday.
LOL.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-08-28/mp-egged-as-he-urges-scottish-voters-to-say-no/
Louise Mensch @LouiseMensch · 3m
.@PeoplesPledgeEU @JackieDP @ZacGoldsmith fuck off, you're Labour's little helpers and you hurt EU ref chances
We had a buffoon shouting abuse at Gordon Brown at the meeting in Dundee yesterday. And it wasn't me. I was on my best behaviour. Honest.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/resources/reasons_tcm77-375471.png
Both economic migration and family migration have increased. Inept.
When a party starts ripping itself apart over something the rest of the public finds as silly and obscure, it's the PM who ultimately carries the can.
And I speak as someone who wants a referendum and would probably vote OUT given the opportunity.
Yes, it is getting a bit messy!
to @Hugh
*breaks down completely*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28971528
A rotten borough, with a rotten political leadership, and at the moment those in power are trying to shout wolves, there wolves and where wolves.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZZwtX3YC0k
So presumably it was a minor and temporary aberration that he seemed to think he was a shoo-in to displace the hapless Mr Lord as UKIP candidate in Clacton (not that there is a vacancy, it seems). No doubt he will rectify this as soon as he remembers his principles.
Lord Ashcroft@LordAshcroft·4 mins
RT @RogerLordUKIP I've had machine guns up my conk Nigel... I'm not bloody going anywhere.>>>oh oh the Clacton UKIP candidate gets ........
R5 gold..... up the spurs!!
Mike? Get a grip.
Calders Geo, in the much beloved part of the union, Orkney?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-28965618
or the rather euphemistically-named Titan, in my beloved Derbyshire?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/6122884.stm
/status/504946756501913600/photo/1
CCHQ had sent out some invites for drinks with Carswell.
I think you've lost the argument, mate. If not the plot.
http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2014/08/why-conservatives-should-now-be-very-nice-about-carswell.html
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/cslideshow?sj=20140828155008-864.js&sn=NATO+releases+satellite+images&sl=1&utm_source=twitter#a=3
Jim Pickard@PickardJE·1 min
Roger Lord, ex Ukip Clacton candidate: "I had a call from the party secretary threatening to throw me out of the party if I don't shut up."
UKIP 1/4
CON 10/3
LAB 10/1
LD 100/1
CON odds drifting a bit in favour of Labour.
They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.....
Not the question, is it? Was Mr Lord selected for May 2015, and, if so, will that continue (presumably not?)? If so, then, has he been deselected by fiat?
Little tempting? Party machine, incumbent party, Roger Lord to make trouble (stand in some form?
23% chance of Tory victory?
Moreover he's obsessed with obscure constitutional and procedural stuff which has absolutely no interest to 99% of the population.
Finally he just seems slightly strange and not someone regular people would be able to relate to.
You couldn't fine someone more unfit to lead a political party.
All mouth and no trousers!
He's an entertaining twitter follow.
Roger Lord UKIP @RogerLordUKIP 14m
I challenge you @DouglasCarswell to a duel. I will have satisfaction at this outrage you and Nigel have schemed like thieves in the night.
(If that's him, which is a big if, to say quite probably not).
I'm not sure she's in any position to criticise other people for harming the Conservative Party.
It's like 1995 again.
He is also banking on some of those Clacton Tories coming across with him-a few councillors would be a coup.This too might be easier said than done.If it doesn't happen he will have lost both Tory and Ukip local support.All of this should be organised and co-ordinated and it clearly isn't.