@gabyhinsliff: People moaning about why are we listening to 2nd place @DanHannanMEP ; because he's more interesting than the others. & I disagree with him
I alert you that Tower Hamlets have not finished counting the local elections from Thursday...so I am not sure if they will ever finish counting the Euro ballots...
Yes, they really are a basketcase in every respect.
A case for primary legislation to put Tower Hamlets under direct rule?
Labour are going to come 2nd, but now it's all about the rounding - if they're stuck on the same 0dp score as the tories it won't look like 2nd in the graphics.
For me Hannan, Farage and Farron have all been impressive this evening. Labour's spokespeople faded into a uniform, non-descript nothing, Salmond was awful.
I don't know the figures, but on the BBC map Brighton has turned from Green to Red. Not entirely unexpected, but I'm still unconvinced Lucas can hold on in 2015.
For me Hannan, Farage and Farron have all been impressive this evening. Labour's spokespeople faded into a uniform, non-descript nothing, Salmond was awful.
The. LibDems won their South East seat by only 16 votes.... That was a close call.
No 16,000. LD 187,000 Labour 342,000. So they were 187000 - (342000 / 2 ) ahead of the second labour candidate. In fact the "last" MEP was actually UKIP's 4th - the LDs had just a little more than a quarter of UKIP's vote.
If the final result is indeed UKIP 29, Lab 24, Con 24, LibDem 7 then none of the polls have really distinguished themselves, although most within the margin of error
I alert you that Tower Hamlets have not finished counting the local elections from Thursday...so I am not sure if they will ever finish counting the Euro ballots...
Yes, they really are a basketcase in every respect.
A case for primary legislation to put Tower Hamlets under direct rule?
For me Hannan, Farage and Farron have all been impressive this evening. Labour's spokespeople faded into a uniform, non-descript nothing, Salmond was awful.
Hung Parliament next year.
Agreed.
Double agreed. I think that's spot on.
Danny Alexander doing the 1000yd stare right now..
Well, another sterling performance from PB this evening. Top class work one and all.
A great win for UKIP, not bad for the Tories, pretty poor for Labour, abysmal for the LDs. But we'll all read too much into this vote. What matters for the GE is where the UKIP votes go and how the no-shows on Thursday swing come next May.
Danny Alexander Looking shellshocked on BBC, admits an awful night apart from 1 SE MEP
The LDs have won a seat in the SE because it is such a large region with more seats than elsewhere. (I think this is correct but would welcome corrections).
For me Hannan, Farage and Farron have all been impressive this evening. Labour's spokespeople faded into a uniform, non-descript nothing, Salmond was awful.
Hung Parliament next year.
Agree with that. Glad you included Farron on that list. Thought he was measured and gave a good response.
Hortence I think it was quite clear by then Blair was going to win the leadership election, but either way Labour won the Euros as a marker for its general election victory in 1997
Hortence I think it was quite clear by then Blair was going to win the leadership election, but either way Labour won the Euros as a marker for its general election victory in 1997
Margaret Beckett was the acting leader of the Labour Party at the time of the 1994 European Elections.
William Hague won the 1999 European Elections as a marker for his general election victory in 2001. Oh wait.....er......
The media seems to be obsessed with printing photos of Farage looking like a braying horse. I think they must think it will decrease Farage's support but the opposite could be true:
Wasn't it Margaret Beckett who was the temporary Leader of Labour party during 1994 when Labour last won the Euro election? Tony Blair had yet to be elected as Labour Leader at this point.
London results being held up by what is being described as a "big turnout" in Tower Hamlets, whatever that might mean. I can't possibly imagine what they're referring to.
What does that pump out the forecast national GB totals out?
You'd think those figures with Scotland would put Labour ahead of the Tories overall.
Looks like it's gong to finish up:
UKIP 29% Lab 25% Con 24% Green 8% Lib-Dem LOL!
Am I missing something? Even though Labour will do well in London, are the Tories not over performing versus UNS in Scotland? Will that not tip the scales back to the blue camp?
Havent read the link... does it show UKIP would not win tonight as OGH predicted?
Dont tell me we won despite the snide move????
Sounds like Ukip might have lost more votes through spoiled votes - people voting for AIFE then realising it was wrong, scrubbing it out and then putting a second cross for Ukip - than actual AIFE votes.
So the difference in lost votes might actually be a lot bigger than it seems.
Why so, maaarsh? I didn't see him tonight but he usually comes across okay-ish on tv when I've seen him do wonkish economics interviews.
Nervous, verbose, jittery. Surprising given his prose.
Thanks for the reply, appreciated. Yes, I'm more familiar with his writing and soft-ball technical economics interviews in the depths of Sky City reports. Never seen him perform in a bear-pit environment.
Beaker following the spin line of "great job by Clegg". Yes, losing 41% of councillors this time and 92% of MEPs is such a triumph
The party collectively signed off on the coalition. I went, I was there.
And that may have been the right decision at the time. Now that it has literally gutted your party at council level do you agree with the cabal that Clegg should hold on so you can lose a third or more of your councillors running next year, or pull the plug and save something you can rebuild from?
What does that pump out the forecast national GB totals out?
You'd think those figures with Scotland would put Labour ahead of the Tories overall.
Looks like it's gong to finish up:
UKIP 29% Lab 25% Con 24% Green 8% Lib-Dem LOL!
Am I missing something? Even though Labour will do well in London, are the Tories not over performing versus UNS in Scotland? Will that not tip the scales back to the blue camp?
Not sure. The way everyone has been going on about London saving Ed's bacon I just assumed London would get Lab over the line ahead of Con.
In any case there's really nothing in it and yet again we see Ed Milliband is one of the most ineffective Leaders Of The Opposition in living memory...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0fk6syQ7iY
Dan Hodges @DPJHodges 1m
Ed Miliband supporter texts me. "God help us all".
Labour must be disappointed about this.
Mine is that UKIP/Hannan are interpreting the election results as a desire to leave the EU, the polling rejects this.
Your point is what?
Dan Crawford @dancrawford85 19m
Beginning to think the polls might open for the General Election before Tower Hamlets finishes counting.
Hung Parliament next year.
In fact the "last" MEP was actually UKIP's 4th - the LDs had just a little more than a quarter of UKIP's vote.
No, Margaret Beckett did.
Night all...
Danny Alexander doing the 1000yd stare right now..
PD 41.8%
5 Stars 21.6
Forza Italia 16.3
Lega 6
Alfano/UDC 4.1
Tsipras 4.1
Brothers of Italy 3.4%
Threshold is at 4%, so 2 lists on the edge
I didn't see him tonight but he usually comes across okay-ish on tv when I've seen him do wonkish economics interviews.
Lab 31
UKIP 19
Con 18
LD 12
Green 11
Don't know which boroughs the above relate to.
Comedians in retreat.
Openly gay UKIP MEP elected in Scotland http://p.ink.cx/S7l8o8
A great win for UKIP, not bad for the Tories, pretty poor for Labour, abysmal for the LDs. But we'll all read too much into this vote. What matters for the GE is where the UKIP votes go and how the no-shows on Thursday swing come next May.
Lab 32
Con 24
UKIP 17
Green 10
LD 9
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/ukip-lost-tens-of-thousands-of-voters-to-party-with-similar
With Scotland and London to come it looks like the Tories will finish third in a national election for the first time in their history.
(metaphorically speaking of course
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2014/05/faragefront2.gif
They tweeted a couple of days ago that a UKIP MEP in Scotland would set back the LGBT "cause"
Havent read the link... does it show UKIP would not win tonight as OGH predicted?
Dont tell me we won despite the snide move????
Meh!
William Hague won the 1999 European Elections as a marker for his general election victory in 2001. Oh wait.....er......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10855972/Ukip-storms-European-elections.html
However I think very, very unlikely Lab gets 2 more seats than Con in London.
So I DECLARE: Con and Lab will tie on seats.
UKIP 29% Lab 25% Con 24% Green 8% Lib-Dem LOL!
Well said, sir.
Lab 37
Con 22
UKIP 15
Green 10
LD 8
Waiting for Godot.
So the difference in lost votes might actually be a lot bigger than it seems.
Night everyone.
The Conservatives are standing in NI for this Euro election., Be well lucky to grab 10k first preferences.
Lab 33
Con 25
UKIP 17
Green 10
LD 7
Con lead Lab by 80,000 excluding London.
In any case there's really nothing in it and yet again we see Ed Milliband is one of the most ineffective Leaders Of The Opposition in living memory...