Well its certainly looking good for UKIP so far. What is extraordinary to me is just how well they're doing, even before the great credit deflation is about to start in earnest. It's been a revelation over the course of the campaign to witness just how out of step the mainstream media have been over the past month. Can't wait for the fall out over the coming fortnight from all of this. Its not as though the political establishment don't deserve it. And what on earth will happen in 12 months time. FPTP is enough of a mess with a strong 3rd party, let alone adding a 4th party into the pot!
Early days, but looking very bad for Labour so far.
Labour's wwc vote is like ice on a lake.
Wide but thin.
EdM is falling through it.
Absolutely, and serves them right for having such a sneering attitude over the past few years that the rise of UKIP would hurt the Tories far more than them. Well tonight will put a coach and horses through that particular theory!
UKIP still far away from being a general election challenger.
They'll hope to change that in due course, of course, but until they do the Conservatives will be happy enough that so far they are taking Labour as well as Tory votes.
They're not wining seats much though are they. They will win a 100+ councillors. Labour will gain more.
Labour should gain more. They're the only major Westminster party in opposition against a government that's been running an austerity regime for four years and whose two parties have both pissed off parts of their own support. Labour has any number of structural advantages, from history to finance to logistics. The question for Labour is why UKIP are gaining any.
@SebastianEPayne: According to a Tory source in Sunderland: Ukip are taking 2 Labour votes for 1 Tory. Net result: one Tory gain. Still a spoiling influence
Look at the others figure. UKIP got a load of people that didn't like Labour to vote for UKIP. Labour stayed on a vote share that is enough for Labour to win the council and the parliamentary seats.
These are the facts of the first results. Now lets wait for the rest.
Look at the others figure. UKIP got a load of people that didn't like Labour to vote for UKIP. Labour stayed on a vote share that is enough for Labour to win the council and the parliamentary seats.
These are the facts of the first results. Now lets wait for the rest.
Labour have matched their vote share from 2009/10.
Sounds like a great platform to achieve a 6% gain in the GE vs that same time period.
IOS, we are in the unusual situation where two of the three major parties are in Government. However, rather than the third party, Labour, hoovering up the protest votes against the Govt. of the day, it has so little appeal to voters that the voters have effectively gone off and formed a fourth party to be the new opposition.
If that counts as an acceptable night, it may be time for bed!
Look at the others figure. UKIP got a load of people that didn't like Labour to vote for UKIP. Labour stayed on a vote share that is enough for Labour to win the council and the parliamentary seats.
These are the facts of the first results. Now lets wait for the rest.
I agree let us wait for the rest.
As I have a demanding job I am off to bed now, tomorrow you can tell me what a great night it was for Labour.
I still remember that Friday hangover. But the best GE nights that I stayed up for remain 1979 and 1992, still amazed my parents let me watch the 79' GE result unfold into the wee hours on a school night. My Mum now tells me that despite my differing politics, they were quite impressed with my passionate interest and views on politics because they were so different from either families traditional ones, and they wanted to encourage me. And in 92', it was brilliant watching the predictions/polls unwind as the night went on, it was also the last time I voted Conservative and got a Conservative MP too! It still feels a bit weird that my constituency back then, Aberdeen South, was in fact the only Conservative gain from Labour during the whole GE results night.
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Wide but thin.
EdM is falling through it.
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Lets wait and see. If UKIP get 33% of their votes from Labour and 66% from the Tories its in Labours interest to see UKIP get more votes than less.
They'll hope to change that in due course, of course, but until they do the Conservatives will be happy enough that so far they are taking Labour as well as Tory votes.
Chris Mason @ChrisMasonBBC
Nethermayne in Basildon now a second seat for UKIP on the council, reports @BBCEssex
Harry Cole @MrHarryCole
Multiple sources in Pompey rejoicing that Mike Hancock is almost certainly out.
I am not spinning. I am saying lets wait for the results. Sunderland is almost finished. UKIP have hardly won all the seats have they?
LAB - 63
CON - 8
IND - 4
Beyond a certain point, 10%? 15%?, UKIP takes more votes from Labour than the Conservatives.
They're not wining seats much though are they. They will win a 100+ councillors. Labour will gain more.
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UKIP - 45.1%
LAB - 35.4%
CON - 16.7%
LDEM - 2.8%
UKIP - 45.1%
LAB - 35.4%
CON - 16.7%
LDEM - 2.8%
I have no doubt that UKIP will make gains off Labour tonight but the reaction on here is way off base!
"Ed Miliband will never be Prime Minister"
Chris Mason @ChrisMasonBBC
Conservatives report they have taken St Peters ward in Sunderland from Labour
UKIP = ZERO seats in Sunderland. Ed Miliband and Labour standing firm there....
Ceredigion Euro Turnout 37%
Fair point. Who will have a better 2015?
I've walked down Nethermayne, last year and back in 2005.
You missed your chance when Purnell quit, nobody with half a brain cell would even consider voting for Ed.
Alexandra Swann is beautiful
Rees-Mogg is a class act
Best thing the guy has ever said.
Janan Ganesh ✔ @JananGanesh
Time for a Labour pact with Ukip
Look at the others figure. UKIP got a load of people that didn't like Labour to vote for UKIP. Labour stayed on a vote share that is enough for Labour to win the council and the parliamentary seats.
These are the facts of the first results. Now lets wait for the rest.
Sounds like a great platform to achieve a 6% gain in the GE vs that same time period.
Dizzy yet?
If that counts as an acceptable night, it may be time for bed!
As I have a demanding job I am off to bed now, tomorrow you can tell me what a great night it was for Labour.
Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil
BBC talking about Tories needing a pact with UKIP. But on evidence of night so far it might be Labour needs UKIP pact more!
Let's see if UKIP win hull council.
Peter Henley @BBCPeterH
Leader of Conservative Group on Portsmouth Council @DonnaPCC says she will offer cabinet posts to UKIP to get control pic.twitter.com/fFRLGo238e
Votes:
Lab: 32,344
UKIP: 16,961
Con: 13,571
Ind: 2,674
LD: 2,569
Green: 1,263
Others: 424
Percentages:
Lab: 46.33%
UKIP: 24.30%
Con: 19.44%
Ind: 3.83%
LD: 3.68%
Green: 1.81%
Others: 0.61%
Changes since 2010 locals:
Lab -2.64%
UKIP +24.30%
Con -5.76%
Ind -0.14%
LD -14.57%
Green +1.53%
Swing, 1.56% from Con to Lab
LOL
Hearing Ukip MIGHT not have got that council seat in Hull after all! Very, very close. Recount
I might regret adding UKIP to the council totals afterall...
Labour seem to have won the only two seats they expected to win. The rest are UKIPs right?
Maybe it is just excitable UKIP fans getting carried away and not waiting for results?
Ross Hawkins @rosschawkins
UKIP averaging something like 43% in Basildon
I wasn't laughing at your comment IoS - but the notion of UKIP sweeping hull....
Justin Tomlinson MP ✔ @JTomlinsonMP
Massive swing to us to GAIN the Covingham seat from Labour - brilliant Cllr Kevin Parry! #VoteBlue
Good night all!
That's what everyone was posting on here!!
Lab 1669
Con 1598
UKIP 1544
Green 238
LD 157
TUSC 55
http://birminghamnewsroom.com/2014/05/2014-local-elections-ward-by-ward/