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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    kle4 said:

    Oh and X-Men: Days of Future Past rocked.

    Thank goodness. Heaven knows I thought First Class was a fantastic movie, but I was worried returning to what, from the trailers, seemed a return to the overly Wolverine focused X-men movies, might prove troublesome.

    I have similar concerns for GOTG, having to introduce a whole team of unknowns, perhaps focusing too much on one or just spreading itself too thin. We shall see.
    Last week I saw a new trailer for Guardians, I think it is going to be a great film.

    Corporeal ta for the link.

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337
    Now the polls are closed: one thing that startled me in the Scottish Euro ballot paper, apart from the choice of Britain First, BNP and UKIP as well as Tories, was that the Tories described themselves as "Scottish Conservatives – No to independence". The unanswered question of this rather obvious dog-whistle was, independence from whom? London or Brussels?

    Apart from wondering if they had perhaps got their polls mixed up, I thought it looked odd in that Euro context - as if the Tories were claiming to be a hard Europhile party. I'm not sure it made much difference, but it couldn't have helped the loss of votes to UKIP.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    edited May 2014
    I arrived home at 8 pm. Dragged a reluctant Mrs out in the drizzle to vote in Acton (ukip want you to abstain). Turn out reasonable -there was a bit of a queue. She voted Lab all the way, and I surprised her by revealing I had voted LD in the Euros (Lab in the locals).
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,067
    Any exit polls here in the UK?
    ;-)
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,014

    That is what I understood too.

    It would explain the frostiness


    stjohn said:

    Isn't one school of thought that David M was poised to take on Brown but that Ed M talked him out of it. The rest of course is history.

    The problems with that theory are (a) David Miliband is a complete wimp and (b) it does not really explain Darling's frustration and disappointment with David.

    Those that didn't do something, anything to rid our country of that lunatic should hold their heads in shame.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,312
    AndyJS said:

    Milton Keynes, Rugby, Daventry are excluded because boundary changes mean comparisons can't be made with 2010. I'm still going to enter today's results from those councils, just not include them in the changes columns.

    What about Hart? We had an all-out election this year due to "re-districting" and a change in the number of councillors. I got 3 votes.

  • "...a Dutch exit poll indicated that the anti-Islam, Eurosceptic Freedom Party of Geert Wilders' - which plans to forge an alliance with France's far-right National Front - has fallen well short of its goal of topping the poll."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-eu-election-netherlands-20140522,0,2062772.story

    I thought it was established that exit polls were banned for the Euro elections
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699

    AndyJS said:

    Milton Keynes, Rugby, Daventry are excluded because boundary changes mean comparisons can't be made with 2010. I'm still going to enter today's results from those councils, just not include them in the changes columns.

    What about Hart? We had an all-out election this year due to "re-districting" and a change in the number of councillors. I got 3 votes.

    Three Rivers council also has new boundaries and full elections .
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    electionista ‏@electionista 5h
    France - @IfopOpinion #EP2014 poll:

    FN 23.5%
    UMP 22%
    PS 16.5%
    EELV 10%
    UDI-MoDem 9.5%
    FdG 8%
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808

    Freggles said:

    RochdalePioneers, amazed someone on here lives so close to me (same Council)!

    Sadly didn't check how turnout had been when I went to vote.

    Are you south of the rivet? We are plagued be loons who want the likes of Thornaby and Yarm to secede from Stockton and "join Yorkshire". That we're already in Yorkshire (sadly, as a Lancastrian...) its bloody daft.
    South of the rivet? Thought shipbuilding on the Tees finished years ago.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    This is a local election for local people. There's nothing for you here!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/clips/p006vm6j/the_league_of_gentlemen_a_local_shop_for_local_people/
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Holland
    "The definitive exit poll from broadcaster Nos confirms that the Liberal democratic party D66 and the Christian Democrats are set to the be the biggest Dutch parties in the European parliament.

    The definitive Ipsos poll put the Christian Democrats on 15.2% and D66 on 15.6%, ahead of Geert Wilders’ anti-EU PVV, which went down from 17% to 12.2%. The ruling VVD are up from 11.4% to 12.3% in the poll."

    - See more at: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/05/definitive_poll_confirms_d66_a.php#sthash.MbTzhULV.dpuf
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    "...a Dutch exit poll indicated that the anti-Islam, Eurosceptic Freedom Party of Geert Wilders' - which plans to forge an alliance with France's far-right National Front - has fallen well short of its goal of topping the poll."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-eu-election-netherlands-20140522,0,2062772.story

    I thought it was established that exit polls were banned for the Euro elections
    No. Or rather sort of.

    Any publication of vote counts is banned by EU regulation.

    Any UK exit poll is banned by UK law (exit polls not allowed for elections prior to close of all polls).

    Dutch law allows such exit polls, so they're having one.

    As I understand it at least.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    AndyJS said:

    Milton Keynes, Rugby, Daventry are excluded because boundary changes mean comparisons can't be made with 2010. I'm still going to enter today's results from those councils, just not include them in the changes columns.

    What about Hart? We had an all-out election this year due to "re-districting" and a change in the number of councillors. I got 3 votes.

    It was difficult deciding what to do as far as Hart and also Slough are concerned. In 2010 in Slough every ward apart from Colbrook with Poyle was contested: this time every ward is contested. I decided to leave it in. With Hart 6 wards weren't contested in 2010, this time all are. I should have left it out the comparisons, but I decided to leave it in since it's a pretty small council and it will hardly make any difference to the national shares of the vote, which is, to be honest, what I'm interested in as far as these elections are concerned. But I can still take it out if you think that's a better idea.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    "...a Dutch exit poll indicated that the anti-Islam, Eurosceptic Freedom Party of Geert Wilders' - which plans to forge an alliance with France's far-right National Front - has fallen well short of its goal of topping the poll."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-eu-election-netherlands-20140522,0,2062772.story

    I thought it was established that exit polls were banned for the Euro elections
    The Dutch have a splendid tradition of disregard for that sort of nonsense.
    There was much euromoaning about their exit polls last time and there will be this time too.

  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,834

    Sean_F said:

    Frank, LAB at 3.4 (3.45 now btw) is not that incredible. Coral have the same price.

    I suspect that LAB are going to have serious GOTV woes in parts of GB which are not also voting in council elections. Eg. Scotland.

    Does any party do a GOTV operation for the Euros when there aren't simultaneous local elections? Most activists I've met who'd be willing to do GOTV activity at local or general elections are distinctly unmotivated to do likewise for the Europeans.
    - "Does any party do a GOTV operation for the Euros when there aren't simultaneous local elections?"

    Yes. The Scottish National Party.
    Hell yes - we've had teams out all day.

    David Herdson's comment - "Most activists I've met who'd be willing to do GOTV activity at local or general elections are distinctly unmotivated to do likewise for the Europeans" - is very telling. It tells us a lot about morale among ordinary Conservative activists. They are dispirited.
    GOTV can make a real difference in a particular ward. Across an entire region, not much.

    Not true. It got Winnie Ewing elected an MEP umpteen times (I was one of her GOTV workers). And worked a treat for her colleagues Allan Macartney and Ian Hudghton too. I was at the count when Hudghton whipped SLAB at the North East Scotland Euro by-election in 1998 (Labour finished an astonishing 3rd). The looks on the faces of the BBC journalists was a picture to behold. They were utterly horrified. I think that that was the exact moment when I fully realised that the BBC was never, and could never be, impartial. They had a side, and they backed that side in every single underhand way they possibly could. They are still at it.

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-23731826.html
    But that's the point: Winnie Ewing stood in the old Euro-constituencies, which were big but still an order of magnitude smaller than those we have today. You also had someone - a candidate - to act as a focal point for the election.

    And to clarify, I know plenty of Tory activists who've been working hard on election day activity today; it's just that their motivation is the council contests, not the Euros. When we've had stand-alone Euros (as we did in 2009 in W Yorks), activity was token, despite confidence being high in the party generally. As Sean says, when the ward has, say, ten thousand electors and the majority might be within a couple of hundred, GOTV makes a visible difference. When the Euro-constituency has five million electors, it's all a bit impersonal.
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    In NI, we have both local council elections for the new merged councils (going from 26 to 11) and, of course, the Euros.

    We have also had the absolute implosion of NI's newest party, the god awfully named NI21 which started as a liberal unionist party under the auspices of two ex UUP MLAs (Basil McCrea & John McCallister). 48 hours before the elections, the two MLAs decided to have a complete separation and the party is on its knees.

    Nominally the issue is one about designation in the NI Assembly, the party was designated Unionist then suddenly Basil McCrea decided it should be 'other' promptly hacking off McCallister.

    This is just one mere outward symptom of the problem, which is actually Basil McCrea, who has an ego the size of a small province. The man has poor judgement and I suspect is not going to come out of this well. Believe me some serious stories about this guy.

    Meanwhile the germ of an idea that had potential, that of a Unionist party for those that didn't want to wear a Sash, has been shat upon.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    Yay, some Red Hot Dutch* Exit Poll Action

    *teenage boys who had a sky box in the 90s will understand the reference.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    QT on but highly irrelevant now.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,146
    'although most experts believe they will win a third MEP in the Euros, it will be because Labour is losing support to UKIP rather than the SNP gaining support'

    Not sure about that.
    I'm not entirely convinced by the 'WWC betrayed by Labour turns to UKIP' meme south of the border; it's a bit of a stretch northwards.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,312
    edited May 2014
    AndyJS said:

    AndyJS said:

    Milton Keynes, Rugby, Daventry are excluded because boundary changes mean comparisons can't be made with 2010. I'm still going to enter today's results from those councils, just not include them in the changes columns.

    What about Hart? We had an all-out election this year due to "re-districting" and a change in the number of councillors. I got 3 votes.

    It was difficult deciding what to do as far as Hart and also Slough are concerned. In 2010 in Slough every ward apart from Colbrook with Poyle was contested: this time every ward is contested. I decided to leave it in. With Hart 6 wards weren't contested in 2010, this time all are. I should have left it out the comparisons, but I decided to leave it in since it's a pretty small council and it will hardly make any difference to the national shares of the vote, which is, to be honest, what I'm interested in as far as these elections are concerned. But I can still take it out if you think that's a better idea.
    It makes more difference in terms of seats than votes, so might as well be left in. Labour are nowhere, and UKIP have more chance in neighbouring Rushmoor where they already have borough councillors and a county councillor. I didn't even consider voting for the UKIP candidate as he's a carpetbagger from Yateley ;-)

  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    Will they announce turnout tonight?
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,591
    Another group pile on UKIP on QT - hilarious the media keep telling themselves they're just applying equal scutiny.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2014
    Front National predicted to win in France.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Daniel Hannan ‏@DanHannanMEP 2m
    Now at the count in Basingstoke. It has been a long day and, to deal plainly, I fear it will not be our best result.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    "Labour source: "Turnout looking low-to-mid 30s...Hopeful of making gains in key marginal General Election 2015 areas""

    twitter.com/UKELECTIONS2015/status/469591644606824448
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Sky News have live pictures of votes being counted in Croydon.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,534
    Y0kel said:

    In NI, we have both local council elections for the new merged councils (going from 26 to 11) and, of course, the Euros.

    We have also had the absolute implosion of NI's newest party, the god awfully named NI21 which started as a liberal unionist party under the auspices of two ex UUP MLAs (Basil McCrea & John McCallister). 48 hours before the elections, the two MLAs decided to have a complete separation and the party is on its knees.

    Nominally the issue is one about designation in the NI Assembly, the party was designated Unionist then suddenly Basil McCrea decided it should be 'other' promptly hacking off McCallister.

    This is just one mere outward symptom of the problem, which is actually Basil McCrea, who has an ego the size of a small province. The man has poor judgement and I suspect is not going to come out of this well. Believe me some serious stories about this guy.

    Meanwhile the germ of an idea that had potential, that of a Unionist party for those that didn't want to wear a Sash, has been shat upon.

    Basil Mcrea seems to even more of a muppet than William Mcrea.

  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    Just back from my day at a small rural Polling Station. Turnout was just shy of 30% to which one should add about another 10% of postal votes (assuming a 66% return rate) . So probably overall about 40%. Word is other polling stations in Mid Sussex were about the same. So overall the turnout looks to be higher than predicted.

    What was really noticeable is how few young people turned up to vote compared with the locals at the same polling station in May last year. I only saw five voters who appeared to be be under 25. What the significance, if any, of that is I don't know, but it seemed so odd that I thought it worth a mention.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746

    Daniel Hannan ‏@DanHannanMEP 2m
    Now at the count in Basingstoke. It has been a long day and, to deal plainly, I fear it will not be our best result.

    I noticed Mr Hannan's address on the candidates nominated PDF. I think his village is a LD area. (Overton, Hampshire)
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The Tories were very narrowly ahead of Labour in these council elections in 2010, by 32.35% to 31.98%. The general election was held on the same day of course, giving the Tories a 7.3% lead.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 3m

    The Conservatives have held Basildon for ten years. Reports say it is likely that they will lose their majority tonight.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,834
    MikeK said:

    What do the BBC know that we don't? ...

    Going by past performance on election days, nothing.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    edited May 2014
    It'd be interesting to know what happens to the ~33 councillors who have defected to UKIP. Will they hold their seats, or will the previous party take back control.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 2m

    Holderness in Hull is rumoured to be seeing a surprise result from UKIP.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Jeremy Browne sounding like a very right-wing LD on Question Time.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    AndyJS said:

    The Tories were very narrowly ahead of Labour in these council elections in 2010, by 32.35% to 31.98%. The general election was held on the same day of course, giving the Tories a 7.3% lead.

    But that didn't translate into a seat lead, Labour won ~1750 to the Tories ~1550
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    marke09 said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 2m

    Holderness in Hull is rumoured to be seeing a surprise result from UKIP.

    UKIP topped the poll in the 2009 Euros in Hull.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808
    When I drove through Kidderminster earlier in a thunderstorm UKIP were standing on the verges with their billboards. They look like the only party that really campaigned for these elections.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    My gut feel is that UKIP will do very well in the Euros but relatively poorly in the locals, compared with last year. Last year, disgruntled Tories (and there were many because of the gay marriage issue) could show their disgruntlement by voting UKIP in the locals. This time, such disgruntlement as there is (and I think it's reduced amongst Tory supporters, partly because the gay marriage issue has cooled down, and partly because the economy has hotted up) can be expressed with a UKIP vote in the Euros, and if you actually want your local council run efficiently you can still vote Conservative in the locals.

    In traditionally Conservative areas where there are no locals, UKIP will do well.

    Hence my overall forecast of a split Euros/locals outcome as regards the right.

    I don't have so much feel for traditionally Labour-voting areas, but perhaps a similar split-ticket effect can be expected, with the Greens picking up uninspired-by-Ed votes in the Euros.
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    I voted for the Conservatives in Barnet and for An Independence from Europe in the eurso (joke election, joke vote).
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Jeremy Browne spoke the truth there, quite candid I thought.

    Salmond, Johnson, Farage - People believe in them.

    Omits Clegg. Telling...

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "David Cosgrove@MercuryDavid

    Apparently one polling station nearly ran out of slips in Hoddesdon today. Sounds like a reasonable turnout across board #mercelections"
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    As a Kipper I'm beginning to understand how Millwall fans feel-No-one likes us, we don't care
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    I haven't heard Chris Grayling speak yet tonight, having just tuned into QT. But as a rule I think he is a very effective communicator.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Neil Hamilton reminds me why I voted for Tony Blair in 1997.

    A breath of fresh air , he is not!
    AndyJS said:

    Jeremy Browne sounding like a very right-wing LD on Question Time.

  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746

    I voted for the Conservatives in Barnet and for An Independence from Europe in the eurso (joke election, joke vote).

    If you don't place any value on voting, why do you frequent a political forum?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2014
    RobD said:

    AndyJS said:

    The Tories were very narrowly ahead of Labour in these council elections in 2010, by 32.35% to 31.98%. The general election was held on the same day of course, giving the Tories a 7.3% lead.

    But that didn't translate into a seat lead, Labour won ~1750 to the Tories ~1550
    Interesting — I haven't been paying any attention to councils seats won in 2010 so didn't notice that. Reflects the trend that happened in the general election on the same day.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746

    Neil Hamilton reminds me why I voted for Tony Blair in 1997.

    A breath of fresh air , he is not!


    AndyJS said:

    Jeremy Browne sounding like a very right-wing LD on Question Time.

    I'm boggled that UKIP have given him a role.

  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 13s

    Carlisle count looking a little messy. pic.twitter.com/SRdIbEoT2J
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Jeremy Browne was recently sacked by Clegg.
    Pulpstar said:

    Jeremy Browne spoke the truth there, quite candid I thought.

    Salmond, Johnson, Farage - People believe in them.

    Omits Clegg. Telling...

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,121
    I wonder if tim formerly of this parish is watching QT given that Kirsty's on?
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Seant, you are absolutely bang on the money with that analysis. The fact that this generation of young Scots have all grown up under devolution, is I think, really now showing that it has worked as a deterrent to Independence most successfully with this age group. On a personal level, all three of my children will be able to vote in the Indy Ref in September, and none of them were old enough to vote at the last GE! It has long been 2 votes No and 1 vote Yes. But now the son that was strongly leaning Yes is having serious second thoughts about voting Yes as he has decided that what he would really like to do after Uni, is to follow his Granddad and Uncle into the UK based military Regiment they both served in. He is also dating a fellow student, a lovely lassie from London which may also be a factor. :)
    SeanT said:

    Scottish independence: Better Together ignores the youth vote to its cost

    ... As a student at the University of Edinburgh, I come into contact with the independence debate almost daily, and the positivity and openness of young Yes campaigners present a stark contrast to advocates of the union. "Yes" posters and stickers are plastered across the campus, yet the blue Better Together logo is notably absent. This in a city regarded as a union stronghold. The strong presence of the Yes campaign across social media – 20,000 more followers than Better Together on Twitter if that’s anything to go by - only encourages these young supporters of independence to keep sharing their cause, loud and proud.

    ... A season of optimism approaches, and if Better Together merely continues to tread water, the Yes campaign will have made decisive gains come September.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10849332/Scottish-independence-Better-Together-ignores-the-youth-vote-to-its-cost.html

    And yet all the polls, and many of the campus votes, show that youth/teenage voters are at best ambivalent about Separatism, and at worst actively hostile. They see opportunities in the wider UK that would be absent in a narrow independent Scotland.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 34s
    FIRST RESULT:
    Pallion (Sunderland)
    LAB WIN
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 1m

    FIRST RESULT: Pallion (Sunderland) LAB WIN
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 31s

    Pallion (Sunderland) Result: LAB - 47.8% UKIP - 30.1% CON - 14.3% GRN - 4.8% LDEM - 3.1%
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Apparently the first two results have been declared - Labour holding Pallion and St Annes wards in Sunderland.
  • Thought Jeremy Browne and the UKIP guy in the audience good on the racism question. Kirsty comes across as an airhead.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014

    Don't make me revoke your political nerd card.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 41s

    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result: LAB - 48.3% UKIP - 33.2% CON - 14.1% GRN - 4.35
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    edited May 2014
    Sean_F said:

    Y0kel said:

    In NI, we have both local council elections for the new merged councils (going from 26 to 11) and, of course, the Euros.

    We have also had the absolute implosion of NI's newest party, the god awfully named NI21 which started as a liberal unionist party under the auspices of two ex UUP MLAs (Basil McCrea & John McCallister). 48 hours before the elections, the two MLAs decided to have a complete separation and the party is on its knees.

    Nominally the issue is one about designation in the NI Assembly, the party was designated Unionist then suddenly Basil McCrea decided it should be 'other' promptly hacking off McCallister.

    This is just one mere outward symptom of the problem, which is actually Basil McCrea, who has an ego the size of a small province. The man has poor judgement and I suspect is not going to come out of this well. Believe me some serious stories about this guy.

    Meanwhile the germ of an idea that had potential, that of a Unionist party for those that didn't want to wear a Sash, has been shat upon.

    Basil Mcrea seems to even more of a muppet than William Mcrea.

    Without going into detail, I know McCrea from way back. He does have that good talking, I want to break the mould stuff going on so I can see why politics fitted him. Reality is the man has mixed with some interesting types in the past, has an out of check ego and actually isn't that smart. He's a lucky man some of the past hasnt come out.

    He deserves all thats coming.

    PS The Singing Nun is no dozer and, in some ways, quite a nice guy.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,682

    I voted for the Conservatives in Barnet and for An Independence from Europe in the eurso (joke election, joke vote).

    If you don't place any value on voting, why do you frequent a political forum?
    More to the point why is he voting for BNP lite?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    corporeal said:

    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014

    Don't make me revoke your political nerd card.
    It's more I have to pace myself.

    Over the next few days, I have the locals to report on, a Lord Ashcroft 26,000 respondent marginals poll, a Euro election and a Nine Inch Nails gig.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    marke09 said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 41s

    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result: LAB - 48.3% UKIP - 33.2% CON - 14.1% GRN - 4.35

    First seat added to the spreadsheet! Thanks
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited May 2014
    Pallion, Sunderland: Lab 1047, UKIP 659

    St Anne's, Sunderland: Lab 1022, UKIP 702

    Turnout:

    Pallion: 30%
    St Anne's: 25%
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 45s

    3 things I learnt today. Euro ballot paper has cost Ukip. Tory ground operation better than Labour thought. Douglas A needs a tin helmet.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 3m
    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result:
    LAB - 48.3%
    UKIP - 33.2%
    CON - 14.1%
    GRN - 4.35

    So UKIP getting 30+% in first two results. Very encouraging.
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,591
    AndyJS said:

    Pallion, Sunderland: Lab 1047, UKIP 659

    St Anne's, Sunderland: Lab 1022, UKIP 702

    What's the share change on last time - that looks remarkably close, but maybe my mental benchmark is all wrong.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    And a controversial call for a LAB HOLD on Sunderland.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    RobD said:

    marke09 said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 41s

    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result: LAB - 48.3% UKIP - 33.2% CON - 14.1% GRN - 4.35

    First seat added to the spreadsheet! Thanks
    There was a by election in this ward on 27th March Lab 945 UKIP 555 Con 345 Green 120
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    MikeK said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 3m
    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result:
    LAB - 48.3%
    UKIP - 33.2%
    CON - 14.1%
    GRN - 4.35

    So UKIP getting 30+% in first two results. Very encouraging.

    Isn't anyone voting for the LDs?

  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523
    MikeK said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 3m
    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result:
    LAB - 48.3%
    UKIP - 33.2%
    CON - 14.1%
    GRN - 4.35

    So UKIP getting 30+% in first two results. Very encouraging.

    No postal voting and UKip would be winning a lot of places like that imo.

    Lab saved by the bell.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Just back from a very hectic GOTV.Libel threats in play,people losing it,as you do at the end of an intense period of campaigning,the stress radiating from a really tremendous old-fashioned battle taking its toll.Seeing some of the candidates are fit to drop is very heartening because it is hard work winning highly competitive contests
    My advice to all those whose brain is about to explode is to go somewhere and lay on a beach for a week but I thank them all for renewing my faith in democracy and the democratic process.
    Overall,a very encouraging rehearsal and,just as a rough guess, turnout could hit 40%,a success of sorts.It's been a very busy day.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    General Election ‏@UKELECTIONS2015 2m
    #RUMOURMILL

    #UKIP storming it in Broxbourne
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033

    RobD said:

    marke09 said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 41s

    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result: LAB - 48.3% UKIP - 33.2% CON - 14.1% GRN - 4.35

    First seat added to the spreadsheet! Thanks
    There was a by election in this ward on 27th March Lab 945 UKIP 555 Con 345 Green 120
    Thanks! For the spreadsheet it only matters if a seat changed hands between 2010 and now.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Rest assured that I did.

    Not that I expect it to have great effect.

    MikeK said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 3m
    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result:
    LAB - 48.3%
    UKIP - 33.2%
    CON - 14.1%
    GRN - 4.35

    So UKIP getting 30+% in first two results. Very encouraging.

    Isn't anyone voting for the LDs?

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Anyone have the full vote figures for those two Sunderland results, as opposed to percentages?
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    corporeal said:

    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014

    Don't make me revoke your political nerd card.
    It's more I have to pace myself.

    Over the next few days, I have the locals to report on, a Lord Ashcroft 26,000 respondent marginals poll, a Euro election and a Nine Inch Nails gig.
    I better go write some more articles that you have to thoroughly re-format.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    AndyJS said:

    Jeremy Browne sounding like a very right-wing LD on Question Time.

    Seems like a good sort most of the time does Browne, from the bits I read at any rate. I'd feel much more inclined to identify more strongly with the LDs if they had more of his type, though their 2010 voters and even their remaining base would not I suspect.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    MikeK said:

    General Election ‏@UKELECTIONS2015 2m
    #RUMOURMILL

    #UKIP storming it in Broxbourne

    That'll be a CON HOLD, regardless.
  • old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    I saw that story break on a large screen TV in Tescos. David Miliband must have curled up in a ball in the corner of a darkened room somewhere sucking his thumb.
    shadsy said:

    Anyone remember this point 5 years ago? James Purnell resigned as the polls closed, and the betting markets went into meltdown, convinced Brown was finished and a 2009 General election would result.

  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    edited May 2014

    Rest assured that I did.

    Not that I expect it to have great effect.

    MikeK said:

    Britain Elects 2014 ‏@britainelects 3m
    St Anne's (Sunderland) Result:
    LAB - 48.3%
    UKIP - 33.2%
    CON - 14.1%
    GRN - 4.35

    So UKIP getting 30+% in first two results. Very encouraging.

    Isn't anyone voting for the LDs?

    And they have that one vote in Wales too, so not a complete disaster. :-)
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    emily m @maitlis

    Early indicators. First two wards in in Sunderland. UKIP 30 percent share of vote from nowhere. This is prime labour heartland. #vote2014

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959
    corporeal said:

    corporeal said:

    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014

    Don't make me revoke your political nerd card.
    It's more I have to pace myself.

    Over the next few days, I have the locals to report on, a Lord Ashcroft 26,000 respondent marginals poll, a Euro election and a Nine Inch Nails gig.
    I better go write some more articles that you have to thoroughly re-format.
    I blame wordpress, I've reviewed all your threads, and you've not done an Ed is crap thread yet.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    Wonder if the Tories can hold Fulwell, St. Chad's and St. Michael's
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549

    corporeal said:

    corporeal said:

    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014

    Don't make me revoke your political nerd card.
    It's more I have to pace myself.

    Over the next few days, I have the locals to report on, a Lord Ashcroft 26,000 respondent marginals poll, a Euro election and a Nine Inch Nails gig.
    I better go write some more articles that you have to thoroughly re-format.
    I blame wordpress, I've reviewed all your threads, and you've not done an Ed is crap thread yet.
    I pride myself on trying to look beyond the obvious.
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699


    emily m @maitlis

    Early indicators. First two wards in in Sunderland. UKIP 30 percent share of vote from nowhere. This is prime labour heartland. #vote2014

    It is not from nowhere see the by election result in St Annes on March 27th
  • maaarshmaaarsh Posts: 3,591
    AndyJS said:

    Anyone have the full vote figures for those two Sunderland results, as opposed to percentages?

    Didn't you post those below - interpolate minor parties from votes you know and percentages?

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    @AndyJS any good twitter feeds I should know about in terms of results?
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    corporeal said:

    corporeal said:

    corporeal said:

    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014

    Don't make me revoke your political nerd card.
    It's more I have to pace myself.

    Over the next few days, I have the locals to report on, a Lord Ashcroft 26,000 respondent marginals poll, a Euro election and a Nine Inch Nails gig.
    I better go write some more articles that you have to thoroughly re-format.
    I blame wordpress, I've reviewed all your threads, and you've not done an Ed is crap thread yet.
    I pride myself on trying to look beyond the obvious.
    So what is Katie Price's USP?

  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Scott_P said:

    Ed Miliband has come under attack from his front bench over fears that Labour will be beaten into second place in the European elections.

    Anger is growing among senior party figures who believe that a “lacklustre” campaign failed to tackle the threat from Ukip, underplayed the party’s position on immigration, and was out of touch with people on the street.
    Doubts were also growing over Mr Miliband’s image after a series of interviews and disastrous photographs.

    One leading Labour figure told The Times: “The narrative around Ed Miliband, because it’s the truth, is that he looks weird, sounds weird, is weird.”
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4097882.ece

    What position on immigration? That they criticise mass immigration in theory but don't do a damn thing in practice? I've yet to hear a single actual policy from Labour on how they are going to reduce it.
  • SocratesSocrates Posts: 10,322
    Scott_P said:

    Ed Miliband has come under attack from his front bench over fears that Labour will be beaten into second place in the European elections.

    Anger is growing among senior party figures who believe that a “lacklustre” campaign failed to tackle the threat from Ukip, underplayed the party’s position on immigration, and was out of touch with people on the street.
    Doubts were also growing over Mr Miliband’s image after a series of interviews and disastrous photographs.

    One leading Labour figure told The Times: “The narrative around Ed Miliband, because it’s the truth, is that he looks weird, sounds weird, is weird.”
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4097882.ece

    What position on immigration? That they criticise mass immigration in theory but don't do a damn thing in practice? I've yet to hear a single actual policy from Labour on how they are going to reduce it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,959

    corporeal said:

    corporeal said:

    corporeal said:

    I agree with this chap

    Rob Marchant ‏@rob_marchant 42s

    Oh, sod it. I'm not staying up for this one - no-one will know anything useful till mid-tomorrow and even that's only locals. #Elections2014

    Don't make me revoke your political nerd card.
    It's more I have to pace myself.

    Over the next few days, I have the locals to report on, a Lord Ashcroft 26,000 respondent marginals poll, a Euro election and a Nine Inch Nails gig.
    I better go write some more articles that you have to thoroughly re-format.
    I blame wordpress, I've reviewed all your threads, and you've not done an Ed is crap thread yet.
    I pride myself on trying to look beyond the obvious.
    So what is Katie Price's USP?

    Popular Front.

    She stood as a candidate in Manchester in 2001.
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