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  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868

    Doesn’t Nevada have that weird system where you can go back the day after election day to correct your ballot if there’s an issue?

    Does voting for the wrong candidate count?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,627
    edited November 5
    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    Basically yes, it seems like the first 6hrs of coverage is dominated by this stuff. And its often really hard to tell too much, last time questions that were positive for what you would think for Trump, didn't translate to actual votes for him.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    Yes, my memory is that they are weirdly esoteric. You are intending to be satirical but it’s you are not far from documentary!
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,688
    CNN Exit could be key if they give overall gender split.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,627
    edited November 5
    MikeL said:

    CNN Exit could be key if they give overall gender split.

    If past is anything to go by, they tease and tease and tease for hours. There are some useful pointers in there, but for several hours they just show answers to questions that are hard to really tell too much from.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,710
    A man on the internet has his trousers around his ankles in the polling booth. The excitement is just too much for some
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,175

    MikeL said:

    CNN Exit could be key if they give overall gender split.

    If past is anything to go by, they tease and tease and tease for hours.
    I'm sorry to hear you had such a bad experience,
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    And the big “issues”. Yet in 2020 the issues seemed quite Trumpy… so the exit poll was useless. Anyone know why they don’t just ask people who they voted for?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492
    edited November 5

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    You could always slip the teller ten bucks to let you vote. Oh wait, you don't carry cash.
    Don't septics often have to sign slips when paying by cards?
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,805

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    A lot of official documents/applications still require signature. I suspect that will get less and less common as they move to digital signature (which relies more on authentication rather than the form or style of a written autograph signature).

  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868

    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    And the big “issues”. Yet in 2020 the issues seemed quite Trumpy… so the exit poll was useless. Anyone know why they don’t just ask people who they voted for?
    I think they do, they just don’t talk about it while the polls are open.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,378
    https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1853901218009026827

    E Day votes - Morris County, NJ

    🔴 Republicans - 40k
    🔵 Democrats - 24k
    🟡 Other - 29k

    2020 - 🔵 Biden +5
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    edited November 5

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    Postal ballots have signature verification here.
    Good job I don't use postal ballots then. However, I bet we are less strict
    Does anyone anywhere for anything actually check your signature here? As long as one doesn’t sketch a crudely drawn cock and balls, one’s autograph is usually nodded through.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,627
    Man City in big trouble.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868
    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    You could always slip the teller ten bucks to let you vote. Oh wait, you don't carry cash.
    Dont septics often have to sign slips when paying by cards?
    Don’t get them started on the wonders of contactless payment. We’ll never hear the end of it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    Oh nonsense

    It will be an in-depth study of how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in the *Agriculture Support Sector* think about tariff policy.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    Postal ballots have signature verification here.
    Good job I don't use postal ballots then. However, I bet we are less strict
    Does anyone anywhere for anything actually check your signature here? As long as one doesn’t sketch a crudely drawn cock and balls, one’s autograph is useless nodded through.
    When voting by post.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,937
    moonshine said:

    I should do my own research.

    The trouble is, I can't be arsed.

    Wait for North Carolina and Georgia and pile in. Ignore the rest.
    With the caveat that *if* Florida shows either a very large (i.e. more than nytimes) Trump victory, or a very narrow one that should influence us.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,805

    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    And the big “issues”. Yet in 2020 the issues seemed quite Trumpy… so the exit poll was useless. Anyone know why they don’t just ask people who they voted for?
    Isn’t that the one they basically use when the polls have closed in each state to “call” it? Presumably they can’t release voting figures before close of polls, but they can release all this weird random crap about one-eyed Nevadan’s views of water fluoridation…
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Man City in big trouble.

    Watching the Celtic game on the other side. Wow, didn’t expect that turnaround for Sporting!
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,688
    edited November 5

    https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1853901218009026827

    E Day votes - Morris County, NJ

    🔴 Republicans - 40k
    🔵 Democrats - 24k
    🟡 Other - 29k

    2020 - 🔵 Biden +5

    Is the Biden +5 election day vote registration or final overall ballot result?

    Without making that clear, the data is totally useless and potentially misleading.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    RobD said:

    Foxy said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    You could always slip the teller ten bucks to let you vote. Oh wait, you don't carry cash.
    Dont septics often have to sign slips when paying by cards?
    Don’t get them started on the wonders of contactless payment. We’ll never hear the end of it.
    Them?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,627
    Are there any YouTube / Twitch streamers who are informed politics people doing simucasts*?

    * I don't want to watch Bad Al.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565
    .

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    Yes, the Democrats missed emphasising an obvious rhetorical and factual point here.
    Dobbs sent the issue back to legislatures - which includes the Federal legislature. Not “the states”.

    One more time: The Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade doesn't just send the issue back to "the states." It also sends abortion to Congress to override the states if it chooses — either by codifying legal abortion nationwide or by restricting or banning it nationwide.
    https://x.com/sahilkapur/status/1853854255238586518

    Does it?

    Doesn't the Tenth Amendment mean its sent back to the states and not federal government if there's no federal grounds for legislation?

    Federal national laws typically happen under the terms of interstate commerce but not sure that works for abortion.
    There’s a long history of stretching interstate commerce to cover everything.

    A major concern is the various attempts, in anti-abortion states, to use lawfare against abortion in *other* states. In the past, such attempts at extending state power have been slapped down - many are worried what this court will do.
    Point is, that both the states and the federal government have jurisdiction - and nothing in Dobbs says it “returns to the states”.

    And the Supreme Court would get to decide where the future balance lies between the two jurisdictions, when the inevitable clashes occurred.
    The tenth says that the states have jurisdiction. If the federal government tried to codify nationwide abortion, then the current SCOTUS would undoubtedly strike it down.
    No, it doesn’t.
    It talks about powers reserved to the states. What those are has been a matter of debate ever since.

    What the current SC might do in the future is a matter of conjecture. It might also say the the FDA doesn’t have jurisdiction over the states.

    But Dobbs has nothing to say about where the balance of jurisdiction lies on the issue, between state and federal legislature.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,436
    MikeL said:

    https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1853901218009026827

    E Day votes - Morris County, NJ

    🔴 Republicans - 40k
    🔵 Democrats - 24k
    🟡 Other - 29k

    2020 - 🔵 Biden +5

    Is the Biden +5 election day vote registration or final overall ballot result?

    Without making that clear, the data is totally useless and potentially misleading.
    Also without knowing how the Others might vote it's totally useless too
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    And the big “issues”. Yet in 2020 the issues seemed quite Trumpy… so the exit poll was useless. Anyone know why they don’t just ask people who they voted for?
    I think they do, they just don’t talk about it while the polls are open.
    I didn’t see anything like that before or after the polls closed last time
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,801

    https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1853901218009026827

    E Day votes - Morris County, NJ

    🔴 Republicans - 40k
    🔵 Democrats - 24k
    🟡 Other - 29k

    2020 - 🔵 Biden +5

    Biden won Morris by 4.2%. 300k votes were cast. Your subsample may or may not mean anything.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492
    edited November 5
    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    I should do my own research.

    The trouble is, I can't be arsed.

    Wait for North Carolina and Georgia and pile in. Ignore the rest.
    With the caveat that *if* Florida shows either a very large (i.e. more than nytimes) Trump victory, or a very narrow one that should influence us.
    Hasn't FL been trending Rep for some years? So needs the baseline setting for that?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    And the big “issues”. Yet in 2020 the issues seemed quite Trumpy… so the exit poll was useless. Anyone know why they don’t just ask people who they voted for?
    I think they do, they just don’t talk about it while the polls are open.
    I didn’t see anything like that before or after the polls closed last time
    e.g. https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/georgia
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,897
    edited November 5
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  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    edited November 5
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    And the big “issues”. Yet in 2020 the issues seemed quite Trumpy… so the exit poll was useless. Anyone know why they don’t just ask people who they voted for?
    I think they do, they just don’t talk about it while the polls are open.
    I didn’t see anything like that before or after the polls closed last time
    e.g. https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/georgia
    Okay fair enough, I hadn’t seen those. Thanks
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,065

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,378
    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    I should do my own research.

    The trouble is, I can't be arsed.

    Wait for North Carolina and Georgia and pile in. Ignore the rest.
    With the caveat that *if* Florida shows either a very large (i.e. more than nytimes) Trump victory, or a very narrow one that should influence us.
    Hasn't FL been trending Rep for some years? So needs the baseline setting for that?
    Some Republican supporters are nervous that it’s trending to them because so many Republicans have moved there, but they need the votes in other states more.
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,710

    https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1853901218009026827

    E Day votes - Morris County, NJ

    🔴 Republicans - 40k
    🔵 Democrats - 24k
    🟡 Other - 29k

    2020 - 🔵 Biden +5

    Biden won Morris by 4.2%. 300k votes were cast. Your subsample may or may not mean anything.
    Tells us nothing about what proportion of the 40k are never trumpers too.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    AnneJGP said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
    Yeah, I do that. It’s just a meaningless bizarre squiggle isn’t it? I doubt I’d even recognise my own. Makes you wonder what on Earth is the point of it? I hadn’t thought about it until now.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,256
    Hunting round for election indicators, this from 2016, where Trump edged the runes

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/these-things-have-all-correctly-predicted-the-presidential-election-results-for-decades/

    For 2024:
    - I see no indication from the Benjamin Franklin Elementary School election for 2024, which is understandable in the febrile atmosphere, but sad.

    - Lichtman opts for Harris
    https://www.brandeis.edu/stories/2024/october/lichtman-harris-victory.html

    - The cup index goes Harris
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-04/hamptons-monogram-store-s-candidate-cups-flip-from-trump-to-harris

    - I thought I read of the Chinese psychic monkey going Trump, though a larger sample of psychic rhesus monkeys went Harris
    https://euroweeklynews.com/2024/09/26/monkeys-make-their-pick-will-donald-trump-or-kamala-harris-win/

    - I see no straight up mask index results, though the daily mail reports the best sellingness of the crazy cat lady costume as indicative
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14003859/Halloween-Kamala-Trump-election-prediction.html

    It all points to Harris!!

  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,720
    @Gallowgate I answered your question re djt stock on the last thread ages after everyone else has buggered off to this thread, because I always miss when a new thread starts. Hope it wasn't a complete waste of my time. I hate that I always do that.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565
    Could be awkward if any of them ever make it back home.

    A usually reliable source tells me that the North Korean soldiers who have deployed to Russia have never had unfettered access to the internet before. As a result, they are gorging on pornography.
    https://x.com/gideonrachman/status/1853838042194235420
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611

    https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1853901218009026827

    E Day votes - Morris County, NJ

    🔴 Republicans - 40k
    🔵 Democrats - 24k
    🟡 Other - 29k

    2020 - 🔵 Biden +5

    Biden won Morris by 4.2%. 300k votes were cast. Your subsample may or may not mean anything.
    Is Morris County in Scotland?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,688
    2m more early votes just added by NBC.

    Total now 82.6m.

    Still: Women 53, Men 44, Unknown 3

    Not much added in key states.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868
    kjh said:

    @Gallowgate I answered your question re djt stock on the last thread ages after everyone else has buggered off to this thread, because I always miss when a new thread starts. Hope it wasn't a complete waste of my time. I hate that I always do that.

    I went back to take a look. So, thank you.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,436
    RobD said:

    kjh said:

    @Gallowgate I answered your question re djt stock on the last thread ages after everyone else has buggered off to this thread, because I always miss when a new thread starts. Hope it wasn't a complete waste of my time. I hate that I always do that.

    I went back to take a look. So, thank you.
    Me too, thanks @kjh
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565
    In other news, my gas supply, which was cut off by a leak in the Edwardian infrastructure, might be restored tonight.

    Which is a relief.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,897
    kjh said:

    @Gallowgate I answered your question re djt stock on the last thread ages after everyone else has buggered off to this thread, because I always miss when a new thread starts. Hope it wasn't a complete waste of my time. I hate that I always do that.

    The stock is currently trading lower then when it was stopped earlier
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,626

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Rarely. Even contracts/agreements at work are rarely wet signatures. Either a PNG of my signature (nice and secure that!) or it's docusign or more generally pukka digital signing.

    Had to sign some mortgage forms recently. Struggling to think of anything else though.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,065

    AnneJGP said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
    Yeah, I do that. It’s just a meaningless bizarre squiggle isn’t it? I doubt I’d even recognise my own. Makes you wonder what on Earth is the point of it? I hadn’t thought about it until now.
    Well, quite often my name is legible but, like abstract art, anyone could do that. Then too, quite often there's a patch where nothing registers of the tracing.
  • Nigelb said:

    In other news, my gas supply, which was cut off by a leak in the Edwardian infrastructure, might be restored tonight.

    Which is a relief.

    I hope so.
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,447
    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    I should do my own research.

    The trouble is, I can't be arsed.

    Wait for North Carolina and Georgia and pile in. Ignore the rest.
    With the caveat that *if* Florida shows either a very large (i.e. more than nytimes) Trump victory, or a very narrow one that should influence us.
    Hasn't FL been trending Rep for some years? So needs the baseline setting for that?
    Yes - FL swung towards Trump in 2020, bucking hte national trend. Don't think you can read much into it
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565

    AnneJGP said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
    Yeah, I do that. It’s just a meaningless bizarre squiggle isn’t it? I doubt I’d even recognise my own. Makes you wonder what on Earth is the point of it? I hadn’t thought about it until now.
    With the death of cheques, how often do most people actually sign documents ?
    Bring on quantum encrypted personal seals.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 49,611
    Space stuff

    https://soar.earth/maps/america-falkland-islands-malvinas-falkland-islands-june-13-1982-80915?pos=-51.80245855317825,-58.21141276187936,15.68

    Full resolution KH-9 spy sat photo - showing the burning RFA Sir Galahad, in the initial zoom of the image.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,065

    AnneJGP said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
    Yeah, I do that. It’s just a meaningless bizarre squiggle isn’t it? I doubt I’d even recognise my own. Makes you wonder what on Earth is the point of it? I hadn’t thought about it until now.
    Some of the older people in my law firm think that inserting a shitty jpeg scan of someone's signature into a Word document has some deeper meaning attached to it
    They've captured a soul in there.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565

    Nigelb said:

    In other news, my gas supply, which was cut off by a leak in the Edwardian infrastructure, might be restored tonight.

    Which is a relief.

    I hope so.
    I’m just glad it didn’t happen on Christmas Eve.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,774
    On the registered voters by party, does anyone know if there have been significant shifts in totals in the last 12 numbers?

    People sometimes change their registration to enable them to vote in closed primaries.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,923
    Scott_xP said:

    DELETED

    I think the mods should just ban dick pics.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,801

    https://x.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1853901218009026827

    E Day votes - Morris County, NJ

    🔴 Republicans - 40k
    🔵 Democrats - 24k
    🟡 Other - 29k

    2020 - 🔵 Biden +5

    Biden won Morris by 4.2%. 300k votes were cast. Your subsample may or may not mean anything.
    Is Morris County in Scotland?
    What am I missing here?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,436
    Selebian said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Rarely. Even contracts/agreements at work are rarely wet signatures. Either a PNG of my signature (nice and secure that!) or it's docusign or more generally pukka digital signing.

    Had to sign some mortgage forms recently. Struggling to think of anything else though.
    Yes at work it is only local authorities and other public sector organisations that seem to have to sign in wet ink and seal, rather than on DocuSign.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    ….
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,897
    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    DELETED

    I think the mods should just ban dick pics.
    Only one per day...
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 5,923
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    In other news, my gas supply, which was cut off by a leak in the Edwardian infrastructure, might be restored tonight.

    Which is a relief.

    I hope so.
    I’m just glad it didn’t happen on Christmas Eve.
    This is why we retain a coal fire. Worst case, come Christmas, I can do a roast and be warm.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918

    RobD said:

    CNN.....BRREREAKKKKINNNNNG NEEWSSSSS......First Exit Polls in 60 mins.....

    I can't wait to find out how one legged Indian second generation immigrants who work in Agriculture think about tariff policy....

    This is the part of the exit poll where they tell us who voted, but not how they voted?
    Basically yes, it seems like the first 6hrs of coverage is dominated by this stuff. And its often really hard to tell too much, last time questions that were positive for what you would think for Trump, didn't translate to actual votes for him.
    I look forward to overreacting as I did last time.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918

    Selebian said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Rarely. Even contracts/agreements at work are rarely wet signatures. Either a PNG of my signature (nice and secure that!) or it's docusign or more generally pukka digital signing.

    Had to sign some mortgage forms recently. Struggling to think of anything else though.
    Yes at work it is only local authorities and other public sector organisations that seem to have to sign in wet ink and seal, rather than on DocuSign.
    Even there things are moving. Slowly, but they are moving.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,467
    Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,774
    edited November 5

    Space stuff

    https://soar.earth/maps/america-falkland-islands-malvinas-falkland-islands-june-13-1982-80915?pos=-51.80245855317825,-58.21141276187936,15.68

    Full resolution KH-9 spy sat photo - showing the burning RFA Sir Galahad, in the initial zoom of the image.

    Someone’s being a tease with that url.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,750
    I wish i hadnt bet on the election. Would make the waiting much more pleasant!
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,612
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    In other news, my gas supply, which was cut off by a leak in the Edwardian infrastructure, might be restored tonight.

    Which is a relief.

    I hope so.
    I’m just glad it didn’t happen on Christmas Eve.
    Had the power go off at 10am one Christmas.

    Someone must have been on quadruple time to come out and fix it. The turkey was rather late...
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,175

    AnneJGP said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
    Yeah, I do that. It’s just a meaningless bizarre squiggle isn’t it? I doubt I’d even recognise my own. Makes you wonder what on Earth is the point of it? I hadn’t thought about it until now.
    I sign about 1,000 times a year, and would always recognise my awful handwriting.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,688
    Iowa early vote - Dem just taken lead by vote reg:

    39/39/22

    But early vote only 40% of 2020 total.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    I should do my own research.

    The trouble is, I can't be arsed.

    Wait for North Carolina and Georgia and pile in. Ignore the rest.
    With the caveat that *if* Florida shows either a very large (i.e. more than nytimes) Trump victory, or a very narrow one that should influence us.
    Hasn't FL been trending Rep for some years? So needs the baseline setting for that?
    Some Republican supporters are nervous that it’s trending to them because so many Republicans have moved there, but they need the votes in other states more.
    Given how close things were last time and this time the Dems messed up not having 200k liberal Californians move to the swing states, clearly.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,134

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    Postal ballots have signature verification here.
    Good job I don't use postal ballots then. However, I bet we are less strict
    Does anyone anywhere for anything actually check your signature here? As long as one doesn’t sketch a crudely drawn cock and balls, one’s autograph is usually nodded through.
    OldKingCole had his postal ballot rejected once because his signature had changed too much from the one registered. I don't know if anywhere else is as rigorous.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 70,565

    Selebian said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Rarely. Even contracts/agreements at work are rarely wet signatures. Either a PNG of my signature (nice and secure that!) or it's docusign or more generally pukka digital signing.

    Had to sign some mortgage forms recently. Struggling to think of anything else though.
    Yes at work it is only local authorities and other public sector organisations that seem to have to sign in wet ink and seal, rather than on DocuSign.
    Very different in Asia.
    https://www.junggu.seoul.kr/english/content.do?cmsid=14877

    Though Covid has put personal seals under threat.
    https://www.paulhastings.com/insights/client-alerts/japans-twilight-of-wet-signatures-and-chops-contract-practice-moves-towards
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,436

    Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog

    Sounds so stupid, unless they are more concerned about abortion than Gaza
  • wf1954wf1954 Posts: 16
    Nigelb said:

    In other news, my gas supply, which was cut off by a leak in the Edwardian infrastructure, might be restored tonight.

    Which is a relief.

    Wasn't all the gas infrastructure replaced in the 1970's when we switched from "town" gas to North Sea gas so surely not really Edwardian?
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,710

    Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog

    Sounds so stupid, unless they are more concerned about abortion than Gaza
    I’ll tell you what sounds stupid: “although it was a small sample size”.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918
    I think I had to sign when getting a passport and they sent it back as the box was tiny and mu signature expansive, and a mark the length of a fly's toenail went beyond the box.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Sean_F said:

    AnneJGP said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
    Yeah, I do that. It’s just a meaningless bizarre squiggle isn’t it? I doubt I’d even recognise my own. Makes you wonder what on Earth is the point of it? I hadn’t thought about it until now.
    I sign about 1,000 times a year, and would always recognise my awful handwriting.
    You are a solicitor aren’t you? One of the few industries in my experience that still write actual letters.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,436
    edited November 5

    Sean_F said:

    AnneJGP said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Sometimes sign for deliveries, with a finger, on the driver's handheld. Never looks like my signature and never looks the same twice.
    Yeah, I do that. It’s just a meaningless bizarre squiggle isn’t it? I doubt I’d even recognise my own. Makes you wonder what on Earth is the point of it? I hadn’t thought about it until now.
    I sign about 1,000 times a year, and would always recognise my awful handwriting.
    You are a solicitor aren’t you? One of the few industries in my experience that still write actual letters.
    Yeah... PDFs attached to emails!

    "Please find attached letter for your attention."
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,491
    While waiting for real results I thought I would look up the 'star poll' for the US territory of Guam. Which has finished voting and the results are up.

    It does not count for any EC votes, so is irrelevant in most respects, it is held on the same day as local elections so has a reasonable turnout.

    Harris: 13,510
    Trump 12,624
    RFK: 938

    Trump is up, 1,066 compared to 2020, and Harris is down 1,100 compared to Biden. Which I think is about a 5% swing.

    But the more interesting thing to me is that RFK got more votes than the difference between Trump and Haris. because this vote has no EC votes attached, nobody really cares, but could there be states where RFK has not been able to take his name of the ballot where he gets more votes than the difference between the 2? I don’t know and there is definitely no way to say all or even most of those votes would have gone to trump if RFKs name was not on the ballot, but could this swing some states?
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Passed two polling stations in Lovettsville VA (Loudon county) at around 2pm. Both busy but not crazy
  • Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog

    Yes, that is a big worry. From the vox pops, Gaza seems to have driven quite a few Muslims and younger voters to Stein.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 56,937

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    I should do my own research.

    The trouble is, I can't be arsed.

    Wait for North Carolina and Georgia and pile in. Ignore the rest.
    With the caveat that *if* Florida shows either a very large (i.e. more than nytimes) Trump victory, or a very narrow one that should influence us.
    Hasn't FL been trending Rep for some years? So needs the baseline setting for that?
    Yes - FL swung towards Trump in 2020, bucking hte national trend. Don't think you can read much into it
    The Democrats haven't won a proper* statewide contest there since 2012, not even in 2018 in the Trump midterms.

    It's not a swing state any more.

    * Governor, Senator, Secretary of State etc.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,805
    moonshine said:

    Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog

    Sounds so stupid, unless they are more concerned about abortion than Gaza
    I’ll tell you what sounds stupid: “although it was a small sample size”.
    The Guardian probably collared four people and interrogated them at length. I’d be telling them what they didn’t want to hear too.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868
    edited November 5
    Opened the camera app by mistake while on the call? We’ll need to go all CSI to see if the green phone symbol is visible in the top left.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,960
    Years and years ago, I read that one of the ways forgers were detected was that the signatures they made were too consistent. (I assumed that was because they usually only had one real signature to copy.)
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,805
    You can be taking a phone call but have another app open on your phone, sometimes purely through mis-pressed buttons?
  • She's on FaceTime you doughnut
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    edited November 5

    Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog

    Yes, that is a big worry. From the vox pops, Gaza seems to have driven quite a few Muslims and younger voters to Stein.
    The epitome of a wasted vote.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492

    Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog

    Parallels the effect of Gaza Independents here in July.

    No sympathy if they get Trump.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,256
    Nigelb said:

    Selebian said:

    biggles said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @DylanByers
    Nevada’s secretary of state, seeing high number of rejected ballots in Clark and Washoe, says one of the biggest issues is that the signatures of younger voters don’t always match what’s on their driver’s licenses:

    “It’s mostly the fact that young people don’t have signatures these days. And when they did register to vote through the automatic voter registration process, they signed a digital pad at D.M.V., and that became their license signature.”

    https://x.com/DylanByers/status/1853894380299681864

    I would be screwed if we had this procedure as my "signature" is different every single time
    We do… Postal votes… Gulp.
    Does anyone really sign anything anymore? Never actually thought about it now. But, yeah, it’s kinda antiquated when you think about it.
    Rarely. Even contracts/agreements at work are rarely wet signatures. Either a PNG of my signature (nice and secure that!) or it's docusign or more generally pukka digital signing.

    Had to sign some mortgage forms recently. Struggling to think of anything else though.
    Yes at work it is only local authorities and other public sector organisations that seem to have to sign in wet ink and seal, rather than on DocuSign.
    Very different in Asia.
    https://www.junggu.seoul.kr/english/content.do?cmsid=14877

    Though Covid has put personal seals under threat.
    https://www.paulhastings.com/insights/client-alerts/japans-twilight-of-wet-signatures-and-chops-contract-practice-moves-towards
    When I was around 11 or 12, the local sub postmaster noted that my signature was missing its middle initial as per the name on the passbook and insisted I added it for the new passbook.

    So as not to totally remodel my signature, I added the merest hint of a loop between my first initial and surname and it has been there ever since and survives even for the minimal finger on touchpad signatures.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 95,918
    rcs1000 said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    I should do my own research.

    The trouble is, I can't be arsed.

    Wait for North Carolina and Georgia and pile in. Ignore the rest.
    With the caveat that *if* Florida shows either a very large (i.e. more than nytimes) Trump victory, or a very narrow one that should influence us.
    Hasn't FL been trending Rep for some years? So needs the baseline setting for that?
    Yes - FL swung towards Trump in 2020, bucking hte national trend. Don't think you can read much into it
    The Democrats haven't won a proper* statewide contest there since 2012, not even in 2018 in the Trump midterms.

    It's not a swing state any more.

    * Governor, Senator, Secretary of State etc.
    But it's the next nearest, or was last time. So the memory if it being so lingers.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,868

    She's on FaceTime you doughnut
    Interesting way of using it.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,436

    She's on FaceTime you doughnut
    Not that it matters but that is not FaceTime
  • Just as an interlude

    Man Utd new manager

    Sporting 4 City 1
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,328
    edited November 5
    RobD said:

    She's on FaceTime you doughnut
    Interesting way of using it.
    You can use the headset speaker if you can't hear them through the loudspeaker
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 21,824
    It's looking really bad for the Dems in PPollingReports
    https://nitter.poast.org/PpollingNumbers/with_replies
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,492
    TimT said:

    Passed two polling stations in Lovettsville VA (Loudon county) at around 2pm. Both busy but not crazy

    So, steady, or brisk?
  • She's on FaceTime you doughnut
    Not that it matters but that is not FaceTime
    It's FaceTime or she opened the camera but you can see at the top of the phone that there's a phone call in progress
  • Foxy said:

    Democrats have been fearful of losing the vote of Michigan’s large Arab American and Muslim American communities over the Biden-Harris administration’s response to Israel’s war on Gaza, and at a polling station in Dearborn there was some evidence that they were right to be concerned.

    Although it was a small sample size, none of the Arab American voters the Guardian spoke to had voted for Harris

    Guardian blog

    Parallels the effect of Gaza Independents here in July.

    No sympathy if they get Trump.
    Him and Bibi. I cannot see that being a better bet for them.
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