For just a little while, the UK is above the US in the Olympic medal table
The Americans order the table by total number of medals, by which count they are on top. Hmm. I must add this to both sides believing we have a trade surplus.
No country that uses mdy can be trusted to put anything in the right order.
Surely some sort of weighting system would make the most sense?
I would go for:
3 points for each Gold 2 points for each Silver 1 point for each Bronze.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo (a) didn't blow up the economy and (b) likes trains.
Off topic with unseemly haste, the Dems appear to have quickly blocked off another line of attack by suspending the plea deal for the 9/11 planners. They really seem to have got their shit together.
That's a strange one, the roots of which are in the crazy US system where they set up Guantanamo etc so that normal human and legal rights are denied to detainees.
The Defence Sec has exercised political control of the military legal system in a country which is supposed to believe in separation of powers.
I see Vladimir is now a strategic partner helping to keep our nuclear subs running smoothly.
"Britain’s nuclear submarine engineers use software that was designed in Russia and Belarus, in contravention of Ministry of Defence rules, The Telegraph can reveal.
The software should have been created by UK-based staff with security clearance, but its design was partially outsourced to developers in Siberia and Minsk, the capital of Belarus....."
"The inquiry discovered that the firm that outsourced the work – on a staff intranet for nuclear submarine engineers – to Russia and Belarus initially kept it secret and discussed whether it could disguise where the workers were based by giving them fake names of dead British people...."
"used developers based in Belarus – Russia’s closest ally – one of whom was actually working from home in Tomsk, Siberia,
If you ever get the chance to drive down the Caterham bypass, note its resemblence to a pre war German Autobahn.
It was built in the late 30s by a German contractor who put a low tender in so their workers could spend their time off planespotting at local airports like Kenley, Biggin Hill and Croydon and persue their interest in modern factory architecture.
Are you sure, I thought Staverton Builders Ltd built it using local labour.
I see Vladimir is now a strategic partner helping to keep our nuclear subs running smoothly.
"Britain’s nuclear submarine engineers use software that was designed in Russia and Belarus, in contravention of Ministry of Defence rules, The Telegraph can reveal.
The software should have been created by UK-based staff with security clearance, but its design was partially outsourced to developers in Siberia and Minsk, the capital of Belarus....."
"The inquiry discovered that the firm that outsourced the work – on a staff intranet for nuclear submarine engineers – to Russia and Belarus initially kept it secret and discussed whether it could disguise where the workers were based by giving them fake names of dead British people...."
"used developers based in Belarus – Russia’s closest ally – one of whom was actually working from home in Tomsk, Siberia,
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo (a) didn't blow up the economy and (b) likes trains.
Dura Ace did use the word search, when talking about Truss as a potential National Treasure. For myself, I see her future as being alongside that of Jo Swinson.
For just a little while, the UK is above the US in the Olympic medal table
Not the way the Americans calculate it!
Well, I suspect they've got a calculation system which puts them above everyone. And if Trump gets in they certainly will have.
The official medal table is based on number of gold medals won, the American media base it on total number of medals won if that gives a higher place to the American team. They’ve been doing it for decades, to the point that it’s now a running joke.
The only time in recent history when the American system gave them a higher place than they'd otherwise have got was 2008 - admittedly an important one as their system has them topping the medal's table in China's home games, whereas everyone else has China first.
But but the time before that was 1976, where they pip East Germany to second under their system (a huge asterisk on that East German team and several others anyway). In 1964, their system deprived them of top slot and gave it to the Soviets, and it's been quite close to demoting them in other Olympics.
The US having a different system has amusing results at times, but I don't actually think it's an effort to mislead people about the position. Indeed, across Olympic history, the US tend to get more golds than other medals - they have an imbalance the other way at this one but, in general, it isn't like they pick up a load of solid silvers and bronzes but few golds.
Neither system makes logical sense - the US treating third place the same as first, or the IOC system where a shedload of seconds and thirds is worth less than a single first.
Give ten points for gold, five for silver and two for bronze would be more sensible.
That would just be confusing.
The more fundamental reason medal tables are misleading is the "value" of a medal is sport-specific. People can pick up multiple medals at a single games in swimming, gymnastics, track cycling etc. There's nothing wrong with that, but there are a load of sports where a great Olympian has one shot per Games. Jason Kenny and Steve Redgrave were both great Olympians, but you can't just tot up the medals and say Kenny was "better". And that's leaving aside that some sports are more competitive than others - winning in a kayak is an amazing achievement and it's not the fault of competitors that athletics is a bigger sport and there are many more good athletes competing for the 100m.
The Tories need someone white and racist which cuts their choice down to one.
It must be strange to inhabit the inside of your head. Not that it’s particularly interesting, but have a flick back through the skin colour of Tory leaders and Chancellors in the last decade.
No use chasing the votes of the Tommy Robinson fan club with leaders who they would want deported. Sunak has spent his two years pouring poison on immigrants not realising that the morons he's talking to can't see a difference between them and him.
Yes but look what happened to the brown coloured Sunak when he went to the polls the semi racist segment of the Tory vote deserted him in droves, but voted for that complete clown Johnson in their millions
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
How about a reality show set inside a right wing think tank?
We follow Liz and fellow travellers as they compete to come up with ever more exotic ideas to savage the state, all the while falling in and out of relationships.
Remarkable video of a woman who's son was kidnapped and murdered by a UNRWA employee heckling a speech by Phillipe Lazzarri the head of UNRWA. I wonder if he found time to speak with her afterwards?
It's in no way remarkable and it has been shown that UNRWA was not resonsible for any kidnapping. It was a story that has subsequently been found to be total bullshit.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
How about a reality show set inside a right wing think tank?
We follow Liz and fellow travellers as they compete to come up with ever more exotic ideas to reduce the state, all the while falling in out of relationships.
Much as despise the slimy git, Jenrick sounded very confident and facilely plausible on R4 this am.
I think he's the Tories' best bet. He means what he says. That gives him a huge advantage over the likes of Cleverley and poor old Tom Tugendhat.
I don't believe Jenrick "means what he says". He plays to his audience. Now the argument on here is that is what Starmer did to become LOTO, and that maybe true. Although Starmer jettisoned the extremists. I doubt Jenrick will. Taking a cue from the "we want our country back" brigade throwing rocks in Sunderland he will go full on Make England Great Again.
That's the point. Jenrick won't jettison the extremists. He will do what he says.
How will we know ? Given Labour label anyone conservative as "far right" its unknowable. Is David Cameron far right ?
David Cameron would have condemned these riots unequivocally. No ifs, no buts. As Tim Montgomerie pointed out, Margaret Thatcher would have done so too.
well yes, but given the lack of moderation in how you describe the right everyone in your book is far right. Its one of the weaknesses of political polemic.
Somehow we have lost the bulk of right wing voters who are just conservative. Everyone is an extremist and of the worst kind.
I wouldn't describe you as an extremist, just a saloon bar contrarian.
Oh Im definitely conservative, 1ts just there hasnt been a conservative party for quite some time. Big State, big spend internationalism is Labour, not Conservative
Well, Mrs Thatcher was the driving force for the creation of the Single Market - but I know where you are coming from. I don't agree with it but I see it as an entirely respectable and understandable political viewpoint. What I find very worrying about modern Conservatism is all this nonsense about the deep state and the blob and the relentless attacks on our institutions and the rule of law. Margaret Thatcher never entertained any of that nonsense.
The Single Market was probably her greatest achievement. I cant believe the bozos in government enthusiastically left it. The Thatcherisation of a continent. You still get lots of pork barrel stuff in the EU but its pretty hard for a government to feather its domestic and state providers for public services.
Perhaps Europe's economic stagnation is the result of this?
You think? How would that be? For a Conservative to see Europe's stagnation as a consequence of competitive free trade would throw a lot of what would be traditional conservatism under the bus (with or without a number on its side).
I would have thought Europe's stagnation is the inevitable consequence of a fucked up population pyramid, and excessive household savings rates.
Given the Eurozone runs a sizeable current account surplus, it seems unlikely that the bloc's trade position has anything to do with their stagnation.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
The Tories need someone white and racist which cuts their choice down to one.
It must be strange to inhabit the inside of your head. Not that it’s particularly interesting, but have a flick back through the skin colour of Tory leaders and Chancellors in the last decade.
No use chasing the votes of the Tommy Robinson fan club with leaders who they would want deported. Sunak has spent his two years pouring poison on immigrants not realising that the morons he's talking to can't see a difference between them and him.
Yes but look what happened to the brown coloured Sunak when he went to the polls the semi racist segment of the Tory vote deserted him in droves, but voted for that complete clown Johnson in their millions
Johnson, of course, has some Middle Eastern ancestry.
That was't, though, what made me at any rate, dislike and distrust him.
For just a little while, the UK is above the US in the Olympic medal table
Not the way the Americans calculate it!
Well, I suspect they've got a calculation system which puts them above everyone. And if Trump gets in they certainly will have.
The official medal table is based on number of gold medals won, the American media base it on total number of medals won if that gives a higher place to the American team. They’ve been doing it for decades, to the point that it’s now a running joke.
The only time in recent history when the American system gave them a higher place than they'd otherwise have got was 2008 - admittedly an important one as their system has them topping the medal's table in China's home games, whereas everyone else has China first.
But but the time before that was 1976, where they pip East Germany to second under their system (a huge asterisk on that East German team and several others anyway). In 1964, their system deprived them of top slot and gave it to the Soviets, and it's been quite close to demoting them in other Olympics.
The US having a different system has amusing results at times, but I don't actually think it's an effort to mislead people about the position. Indeed, across Olympic history, the US tend to get more golds than other medals - they have an imbalance the other way at this one but, in general, it isn't like they pick up a load of solid silvers and bronzes but few golds.
Neither system makes logical sense - the US treating third place the same as first, or the IOC system where a shedload of seconds and thirds is worth less than a single first.
Give ten points for gold, five for silver and two for bronze would be more sensible.
That would just be confusing.
The more fundamental reason medal tables are misleading is the "value" of a medal is sport-specific. People can pick up multiple medals at a single games in swimming, gymnastics, track cycling etc. There's nothing wrong with that, but there are a load of sports where a great Olympian has one shot per Games. Jason Kenny and Steve Redgrave were both great Olympians, but you can't just tot up the medals and say Kenny was "better". And that's leaving aside that some sports are more competitive than others - winning in a kayak is an amazing achievement and it's not the fault of competitors that athletics is a bigger sport and there are many more good athletes competing for the 100m.
Give me an hour to go away and do the maths, and I will come up with a system under which we have “won” every Olympics since 2012. Might involve extra points for sports on wheels and a distinct medal for every person in a boat.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
I see Vladimir is now a strategic partner helping to keep our nuclear subs running smoothly.
"Britain’s nuclear submarine engineers use software that was designed in Russia and Belarus, in contravention of Ministry of Defence rules, The Telegraph can reveal.
The software should have been created by UK-based staff with security clearance, but its design was partially outsourced to developers in Siberia and Minsk, the capital of Belarus....."
"The inquiry discovered that the firm that outsourced the work – on a staff intranet for nuclear submarine engineers – to Russia and Belarus initially kept it secret and discussed whether it could disguise where the workers were based by giving them fake names of dead British people...."
"used developers based in Belarus – Russia’s closest ally – one of whom was actually working from home in Tomsk, Siberia,
If you ever get the chance to drive down the Caterham bypass, note its resemblence to a pre war German Autobahn.
It was built in the late 30s by a German contractor who put a low tender in so their workers could spend their time off planespotting at local airports like Kenley, Biggin Hill and Croydon and persue their interest in modern factory architecture.
Are you sure, I thought Staverton Builders Ltd built it using local labour.
I'm going on local "folklore" for want of a better word. If it is wrong please delete.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
She could have made a speech of course. There are no 'rules' about the these things, just custom and practice. She was late, but IIRC, she's explained that.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
I'm sure if the losing former Prime Minister had wanted to say a few words to thank the counting staff, her activists and to address the public on what had been the worst Tory defeat in their 200 year history, an exception could have been made?
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Part of the problem is that Starmer has zero credibility and his actions have made things worse not better
Solemn press conferences promising to metaphorically cosh them all is fine if you react that way to any riot. But not when you only do it with rioters whos root political cause you despise as oppose to sympathise with.
7th June 2020.
“27 police officers injured during largely peaceful anti-racism protests in London”
[Wikipedia] "In London, BLM protesters clashed with police. A protester was seen climbing onto The Cenotaph war memorial and attempted to set the Union Jack on fire.[102] The words "was a racist" were painted onto a statue of Sir Winston Churchill."
"A crowd of at least 5,000 people marched from Bristol's College Green to The Centre where they tore down the statue, dragged and dumped it into Bristol Harbour.[106][107] The empty plinth was used as a stage for protesters"
9th June 2020.
@keirstarmer We kneel with all those opposing anti-Black racism. #BlackLivesMatter
Its not me you need to worry about. I'm happy to sit here in rural Bedfordshire on a glorious summer day and watch while he implodes under his own contradictions and look forward to the next election, relishing watching their most sacred shibboleths like the Climate Change act slowly screwing them.
The millions who can't get a roof over their heads except at eyewatering prices due to competition from immigrants and unable to get anything other than low paid wprk due to plentiful immigrants meaning employers can get away with low wages.
They are getting VERY wound up and there are rather a lot of them.
I actually feel sorry for the immigrants who are being exploited by the powers that be for cheap labour and political gain.
Vanilla effed up. Response here.
The importation of cheap migrants to do jobs in care homes due to low pay here when they should simply increase the hourly rate is a scandal. These are not skilled professionals who add to the U.K. who are the migrants we really want and need. Coming in to wipe pensioners bums for minimum wage. The real problem is they bring with them children who need educating, at a cost, and other economically inactive dependents who become a net burden on society. All to save a quid or two an hour.
This guy brought his wife and four kids expecting care home work.
How is a family of six supposed to exist on one minimum wage salary? It does appear that too many of these agencies are an immigration scam.
The way to recruit care workers at scale is remarkably easy. Set up an office close to the British embassy in Manila. Take newly-qualified nurses, of whom there are hundreds of thousands in the Philippines, bring them over as care workers and have them work towards registered nursing qualifications in the UK.
My wife helped her NHS trust recruit Filipino nurses. They were really good.
Indeed. Most of the nurses are in the sandpit are from there.
I’ve long had a mad idea that the NHS should open a university hospital in cities like Manila and Mumbai, and use it to train locals towards UK-recognised qualifications that come with visas attached. You could fund it from the foreign aid budget, while also offering fair-priced treatment to local patients. It has to be the easiest and cheapest way of achieving a rapid expansion in training places.
Similarly I've long suggested that we should outsource our prisons to the third world.
That’s slightly more controversial, unless you asked for volunteers for it, and sited it on diplomatic land subject to British law - which probably makes it just as expensive as building a new prison in the UK.
Remarkable video of a woman who's son was kidnapped and murdered by a UNRWA employee heckling a speech by Phillipe Lazzarri the head of UNRWA. I wonder if he found time to speak with her afterwards?
It's in no way remarkable and it has been shown that UNRWA was not resonsible for any kidnapping. It was a story that has subsequently been found to be total bullshit.
Look, if UNRWA’s millkman was a bad un it obviously means they’re all in it together.
I see the Palestinian prisoner raped and crippled in an IDF prison has died. I suppose even if the folk accused of the raping & crippling hadn’t been released by a deranged mob, there was very little chance of them facing justice.
Regarding a conversation from yesterday, I've just started watching 'The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare," and early on, Fernando Po is mentioned. Po, not Poo. If it's good enough for Amazon Prime, it's good enough for me.
(Incidentally, it's got one of the worst depictions of Churchill I can remember seeing, by Rory Kinnear.)
Another morning, another double take as I cast my eye down the medal table, down down down, and finally there is Germany with 2 gold medals. A gold below Romania.
(By the way the Romanian national anthem is very good).
Have Germany just narrowly missed out on lots of golds, like the USA? No, they have 7 medals in total.
Meanwhile France, GB and Italy, the other major European economies, have 11, 10 and 5 golds each.
What has happened? Has Germany just stopped investing in Olympic sports? They used to win the Olympics. More than that, West Germany and East Germany used to battle it out at the top of the board.
And the other one is Poland. Emerging giant of the EU, 4 medals, zero golds.
But seriously what’s up with Germany? Perhaps they scrape it back in the track and field events.
Germany has been in decline at the Olympics for over three decades.
A large part of it is because of the relative change of funding compared to other countries - for example the GB team were effectively amateurs up until the embarrassment of 1996.
East Germany was notorious for the state support (much of it illegal) of its athletes.
Indeed, until the lottery funding came along the majority of the athletes and coaches were part-time amateurs. Now there’s huge programmes of professional athletes and coaches, funding to universities and new facilities. What a difference it’s made.
The one good thing to come out of John Major’s government.
Yeah I think it will take an Olympics to be hosted in Germany before they put serious funding into it. I wouldn't say the German team is mostly amateur, they aren't, but they do run on a budget a third of the size of ours, France or Australia.
Alarm bells must be ringing back in the US right now, they've got 4 years to unearth top level swimming talent for both sexes or they could suffer the embarrassment of finishing second behind China at their home games.
What Britain, and before them Australia and now France, have shown is that it is better to inject cash than steroids to win hatfuls of medals.
The jury is still out on France and their miracle swimmer IMO but yes, on the whole I'd agree with that.
What I have particularly enjoyed with these Olympics is how sporting it seems to be between the athletes of different nations (chatting, hugging, etc) and how pleased they seem to just win a bronze when missing out on a gold say. Bethany Shriever for instance was absolutely dominant in the BMX races and then blew it in the final, missing out altogether. Still seemed to be chuffed though, even though the gold should have been nailed on.
And Teddy Riner was awesome in the judo and what a smile. My son was rather good at judo and sometimes you weren't sure what score was appropriate (although there were 4 types then rather than the 2 now). No doubt with Riner. Ippon every time.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo (a) didn't blow up the economy and (b) likes trains.
Dura Ace did use the word search, when talking about Truss as a potential National Treasure. For myself, I see her future as being alongside that of Jo Swinson.
I fairness to Swinson, she hasn't been desparately seeking attention since her defeat. She has a young family and has stepped well away from the frontline. She had a terrible election but hasn't turned herself into a joke since - she took defeat and moved on with her life.
I suspect Truss will go more down the Lembit Opik route.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
She could have made a speech of course. There are no 'rules' about the these things, just custom and practice. She was late, but IIRC, she's explained that.
Yes, she could have ignored the presiding officer, barged to the front, grabbed the mic as everyone was leaving the stage, and burst into 'My Way'. I am sure she would have got no criticism for that.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
How about a reality show set inside a right wing think tank?
We follow Liz and fellow travellers as they compete to come up with ever more exotic ideas to reduce the state, all the while falling in out of relationships.
Gove Island?
He could appear briefly if ratings flag. We give them just a taste of Gove to create tension.
For just a little while, the UK is above the US in the Olympic medal table
Not the way the Americans calculate it!
Well, I suspect they've got a calculation system which puts them above everyone. And if Trump gets in they certainly will have.
The official medal table is based on number of gold medals won, the American media base it on total number of medals won if that gives a higher place to the American team. They’ve been doing it for decades, to the point that it’s now a running joke.
The only time in recent history when the American system gave them a higher place than they'd otherwise have got was 2008 - admittedly an important one as their system has them topping the medal's table in China's home games, whereas everyone else has China first.
But but the time before that was 1976, where they pip East Germany to second under their system (a huge asterisk on that East German team and several others anyway). In 1964, their system deprived them of top slot and gave it to the Soviets, and it's been quite close to demoting them in other Olympics.
The US having a different system has amusing results at times, but I don't actually think it's an effort to mislead people about the position. Indeed, across Olympic history, the US tend to get more golds than other medals - they have an imbalance the other way at this one but, in general, it isn't like they pick up a load of solid silvers and bronzes but few golds.
Neither system makes logical sense - the US treating third place the same as first, or the IOC system where a shedload of seconds and thirds is worth less than a single first.
Give ten points for gold, five for silver and two for bronze would be more sensible.
That would just be confusing.
The more fundamental reason medal tables are misleading is the "value" of a medal is sport-specific. People can pick up multiple medals at a single games in swimming, gymnastics, track cycling etc. There's nothing wrong with that, but there are a load of sports where a great Olympian has one shot per Games. Jason Kenny and Steve Redgrave were both great Olympians, but you can't just tot up the medals and say Kenny was "better". And that's leaving aside that some sports are more competitive than others - winning in a kayak is an amazing achievement and it's not the fault of competitors that athletics is a bigger sport and there are many more good athletes competing for the 100m.
Give me an hour to go away and do the maths, and I will come up with a system under which we have “won” every Olympics since 2012. Might involve extra points for sports on wheels and a distinct medal for every person in a boat.
We could all get behind that right?
When we started beating the Aussies in the medals tables in recent Olympics, their joke was that we were good at sports involving sitting down. It didn't quite work as they pick up quite a few sitting down medals themselves, but was quite amusing.
(First of all noting that this is from the Telegrunt.)
I think both the ECJ and Welby (of whom I'm generally a fan) are being naif here.
He called on all United Nations member states – which includes the UK – to “respond positively” to the non-binding ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and for the “realisation of the Palestinian people’s fundamental right to self-determination”.
IMO that can't happen practically until the wider conflict in the ME - especially 'Iran' vs 'Saudi Arabia' - is in some way defused. Palestinian territories are a war zone, and imo a cause of the recent Hamas initiated conflict was Israel's progress in coming to normalisation agreements with Arab countries.
Iran can't be having that.
Israel withdrew from Gaza to the 1967 Green Line in 2005, and look what happened.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
I'm sure if the losing former Prime Minister had wanted to say a few words to thank the counting staff, her activists and to address the public on what had been the worst Tory defeat in their 200 year history, an exception could have been made?
You didn't say 'she did not ask to have a special exception made so that she could make a graceful concession speech', you said 'she refused' like the 'coward she is'. Ill-informed mean spirited tripe.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
Transworld sport early on a Saturday morning on Ch4 used to be good for this as well.
I see Vladimir is now a strategic partner helping to keep our nuclear subs running smoothly.
"Britain’s nuclear submarine engineers use software that was designed in Russia and Belarus, in contravention of Ministry of Defence rules, The Telegraph can reveal.
The software should have been created by UK-based staff with security clearance, but its design was partially outsourced to developers in Siberia and Minsk, the capital of Belarus....."
"The inquiry discovered that the firm that outsourced the work – on a staff intranet for nuclear submarine engineers – to Russia and Belarus initially kept it secret and discussed whether it could disguise where the workers were based by giving them fake names of dead British people...."
"used developers based in Belarus – Russia’s closest ally – one of whom was actually working from home in Tomsk, Siberia,
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Part of the problem is that Starmer has zero credibility and his actions have made things worse not better
Solemn press conferences promising to metaphorically cosh them all is fine if you react that way to any riot. But not when you only do it with rioters whos root political cause you despise as oppose to sympathise with.
7th June 2020.
“27 police officers injured during largely peaceful anti-racism protests in London”
[Wikipedia] "In London, BLM protesters clashed with police. A protester was seen climbing onto The Cenotaph war memorial and attempted to set the Union Jack on fire.[102] The words "was a racist" were painted onto a statue of Sir Winston Churchill."
"A crowd of at least 5,000 people marched from Bristol's College Green to The Centre where they tore down the statue, dragged and dumped it into Bristol Harbour.[106][107] The empty plinth was used as a stage for protesters"
9th June 2020.
@keirstarmer We kneel with all those opposing anti-Black racism. #BlackLivesMatter
Its not me you need to worry about. I'm happy to sit here in rural Bedfordshire on a glorious summer day and watch while he implodes under his own contradictions and look forward to the next election, relishing watching their most sacred shibboleths like the Climate Change act slowly screwing them.
The millions who can't get a roof over their heads except at eyewatering prices due to competition from immigrants and unable to get anything other than low paid wprk due to plentiful immigrants meaning employers can get away with low wages.
They are getting VERY wound up and there are rather a lot of them.
I actually feel sorry for the immigrants who are being exploited by the powers that be for cheap labour and political gain.
Vanilla effed up. Response here.
The importation of cheap migrants to do jobs in care homes due to low pay here when they should simply increase the hourly rate is a scandal. These are not skilled professionals who add to the U.K. who are the migrants we really want and need. Coming in to wipe pensioners bums for minimum wage. The real problem is they bring with them children who need educating, at a cost, and other economically inactive dependents who become a net burden on society. All to save a quid or two an hour.
This guy brought his wife and four kids expecting care home work.
How is a family of six supposed to exist on one minimum wage salary? It does appear that too many of these agencies are an immigration scam.
The way to recruit care workers at scale is remarkably easy. Set up an office close to the British embassy in Manila. Take newly-qualified nurses, of whom there are hundreds of thousands in the Philippines, bring them over as care workers and have them work towards registered nursing qualifications in the UK.
My wife helped her NHS trust recruit Filipino nurses. They were really good.
Indeed. Most of the nurses are in the sandpit are from there.
I’ve long had a mad idea that the NHS should open a university hospital in cities like Manila and Mumbai, and use it to train locals towards UK-recognised qualifications that come with visas attached. You could fund it from the foreign aid budget, while also offering fair-priced treatment to local patients. It has to be the easiest and cheapest way of achieving a rapid expansion in training places.
Similarly I've long suggested that we should outsource our prisons to the third world.
That’s slightly more controversial, unless you asked for volunteers for it, and sited it on diplomatic land subject to British law - which probably makes it just as expensive as building a new prison in the UK.
I see Vladimir is now a strategic partner helping to keep our nuclear subs running smoothly.
"Britain’s nuclear submarine engineers use software that was designed in Russia and Belarus, in contravention of Ministry of Defence rules, The Telegraph can reveal.
The software should have been created by UK-based staff with security clearance, but its design was partially outsourced to developers in Siberia and Minsk, the capital of Belarus....."
"The inquiry discovered that the firm that outsourced the work – on a staff intranet for nuclear submarine engineers – to Russia and Belarus initially kept it secret and discussed whether it could disguise where the workers were based by giving them fake names of dead British people...."
"used developers based in Belarus – Russia’s closest ally – one of whom was actually working from home in Tomsk, Siberia,
If you ever get the chance to drive down the Caterham bypass, note its resemblence to a pre war German Autobahn.
It was built in the late 30s by a German contractor who put a low tender in so their workers could spend their time off planespotting at local airports like Kenley, Biggin Hill and Croydon and persue their interest in modern factory architecture.
Are you sure, I thought Staverton Builders Ltd built it using local labour.
I'm going on local "folklore" for want of a better word. If it is wrong please delete.
PS - you sure you are not talking about the extension further south in 1970 or thereabouts?
Got to meet someone now so can't look into it further NB opened in 1939 March I think.
For just a little while, the UK is above the US in the Olympic medal table
Not the way the Americans calculate it!
Well, I suspect they've got a calculation system which puts them above everyone. And if Trump gets in they certainly will have.
The official medal table is based on number of gold medals won, the American media base it on total number of medals won if that gives a higher place to the American team. They’ve been doing it for decades, to the point that it’s now a running joke.
The only time in recent history when the American system gave them a higher place than they'd otherwise have got was 2008 - admittedly an important one as their system has them topping the medal's table in China's home games, whereas everyone else has China first.
But but the time before that was 1976, where they pip East Germany to second under their system (a huge asterisk on that East German team and several others anyway). In 1964, their system deprived them of top slot and gave it to the Soviets, and it's been quite close to demoting them in other Olympics.
The US having a different system has amusing results at times, but I don't actually think it's an effort to mislead people about the position. Indeed, across Olympic history, the US tend to get more golds than other medals - they have an imbalance the other way at this one but, in general, it isn't like they pick up a load of solid silvers and bronzes but few golds.
Neither system makes logical sense - the US treating third place the same as first, or the IOC system where a shedload of seconds and thirds is worth less than a single first.
Give ten points for gold, five for silver and two for bronze would be more sensible.
That would just be confusing.
The more fundamental reason medal tables are misleading is the "value" of a medal is sport-specific. People can pick up multiple medals at a single games in swimming, gymnastics, track cycling etc. There's nothing wrong with that, but there are a load of sports where a great Olympian has one shot per Games. Jason Kenny and Steve Redgrave were both great Olympians, but you can't just tot up the medals and say Kenny was "better". And that's leaving aside that some sports are more competitive than others - winning in a kayak is an amazing achievement and it's not the fault of competitors that athletics is a bigger sport and there are many more good athletes competing for the 100m.
And team sports really suffer. An Olympic Gold in, say, handball is worth only one. Even though you've won that entire sport. And however many are in a handball squad each got a medal.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
I've asked before, but is there independent evidence of the claim that the losers don't make speeches in SWN?
Because you seem to be setting a lot of value on her excuses.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo (a) didn't blow up the economy and (b) likes trains.
Dura Ace did use the word search, when talking about Truss as a potential National Treasure. For myself, I see her future as being alongside that of Jo Swinson.
I fairness to Swinson, she hasn't been desparately seeking attention since her defeat. She has a young family and has stepped well away from the frontline. She had a terrible election but hasn't turned herself into a joke since - she took defeat and moved on with her life.
I suspect Truss will go more down the Lembit Opik route.
Driving into Kent a few years ago my radio defaulted to a local radio station and there was Lembit talking. I didn't realise at first until someone else in the studio said something about Lembit Opik.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
I don't think that's right. As I understand it, there is no set rule but returning officers tend to invite a defeated MP to speak as well as the successful candidate.
The point is that SW Norfolk hasn't had a defeated MP for 60 years. I am unsure if history records whether Albert Hilton spoke in 1964.
Just looking at the video from the declaration, it does seem the RO invited Truss to speak and she declined, although it's a little unclear.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
Remarkable video of a woman who's son was kidnapped and murdered by a UNRWA employee heckling a speech by Phillipe Lazzarri the head of UNRWA. I wonder if he found time to speak with her afterwards?
It's in no way remarkable and it has been shown that UNRWA was not resonsible for any kidnapping. It was a story that has subsequently been found to be total bullshit.
Are you Jewish? I'm curious where you're getting your misinformation. As a matter of interest Israel have now killed 188 UNRWA workers in GAZA.
Actually no. That report does not say what you claim. Nor does the interview you post to. It addresses specifically the question of overall neutrality of the UNRWA in Gaza. Thre is a seprate UN investigation being conducted into the claims that UNRWA personnel were directly involved in October 7th - which is what the original posting was about. That has not yet reported. Moreover the UNRWA has already sacked ten of its contractors over this.
So until that next report is completed your denial is unfounded.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
How about a reality show set inside a right wing think tank?
We follow Liz and fellow travellers as they compete to come up with ever more exotic ideas to savage the state, all the while falling in and out of relationships.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
Huw Edwards was also seen as a ‘national treasure’ until very recently. Don’t go there on Jimmy Savile either, who died thinking that he was a mad eccentric Englishman, before his scandal was revealed.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
I'm sure if the losing former Prime Minister had wanted to say a few words to thank the counting staff, her activists and to address the public on what had been the worst Tory defeat in their 200 year history, an exception could have been made?
You didn't say 'she did not ask to have a special exception made so that she could make a graceful concession speech', you said 'she refused' like the 'coward she is'. Ill-informed mean spirited tripe.
Well that's me told!
But, but, but, I still hold the view that her behviour on election night and indeed since she crashed the economy, is cowardly as she refuses to accept any responsibility for what happened, has never apologized for her mistakes and just blames everyone else.
Failing to give a speech at her declaration fitted a pattern of behviour we've seen from her since 2022.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
She could have made a speech of course. There are no 'rules' about the these things, just custom and practice. She was late, but IIRC, she's explained that.
Yes, she could have ignored the presiding officer, barged to the front, grabbed the mic as everyone was leaving the stage, and burst into 'My Way'. I am sure she would have got no criticism for that.
If you can't even persuade a returning officer to let you make a speech, we'll... it rather suggests that other tougher roles, like Prime Minister, may be a little beyond you.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
It did decline towards the end - got a bit to the level of "Later, we go live to crown green bowls from St Helier, but not before we catch up on all the action from the European fly fishing championships in Coventry..."
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
(First of all noting that this is from the Telegrunt.)
I think both the ECJ and Welby (of whom I'm generally a fan) are being naif here.
He called on all United Nations member states – which includes the UK – to “respond positively” to the non-binding ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and for the “realisation of the Palestinian people’s fundamental right to self-determination”.
IMO that can't happen practically until the wider conflict in the ME - especially 'Iran' vs 'Saudi Arabia' - is in some way defused. Palestinian territories are a war zone, and imo a cause of the recent Hamas initiated conflict was Israel's progress in coming to normalisation agreements with Arab countries.
Iran can't be having that.
Israel withdrew from Gaza to the 1967 Green Line in 2005, and look what happened.
Sunni and Shia have been fighting each other for 1,400 years.
Sadly there’s not much chance of it stopping any time soon.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo (a) didn't blow up the economy and (b) likes trains.
Dura Ace did use the word search, when talking about Truss as a potential National Treasure. For myself, I see her future as being alongside that of Jo Swinson.
I fairness to Swinson, she hasn't been desparately seeking attention since her defeat. She has a young family and has stepped well away from the frontline. She had a terrible election but hasn't turned herself into a joke since - she took defeat and moved on with her life.
I suspect Truss will go more down the Lembit Opik route.
There were quite a few Jo Swinson fanboys on PB around 2010 to 2015
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo (a) didn't blow up the economy and (b) likes trains.
Dura Ace did use the word search, when talking about Truss as a potential National Treasure. For myself, I see her future as being alongside that of Jo Swinson.
I fairness to Swinson, she hasn't been desparately seeking attention since her defeat. She has a young family and has stepped well away from the frontline. She had a terrible election but hasn't turned herself into a joke since - she took defeat and moved on with her life.
I suspect Truss will go more down the Lembit Opik route.
Driving into Kent a few years ago my radio defaulted to a local radio station and there was Lembit talking. I didn't realise at first until someone else in the studio said something about Lembit Opik.
People that Parliament is best off without, number two hundred and eleven: Lembit Opik.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
There are some seriously different scales going on here.
Kevin Mcloud has in quite serious measure shat his own bed. Andy Murray - maybe a second tier national treasure; for tennis, Cliff Richard is closer. Stephen Fry has had some bizarre behaviour such as his repeated Social Media tantrums, and suffers from ingrowing pomposity.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
Wait.
Martin Lewis is a national treasure?
Second degree - semi-precious.
Logically 'ornamental' is the third degree. I don't suppose anyone would bother with a fourth level but 'freestone' is available.
Remarkable video of a woman who's son was kidnapped and murdered by a UNRWA employee heckling a speech by Phillipe Lazzarri the head of UNRWA. I wonder if he found time to speak with her afterwards?
It's in no way remarkable and it has been shown that UNRWA was not resonsible for any kidnapping. It was a story that has subsequently been found to be total bullshit.
Are you Jewish? I'm curious where you're getting your misinformation. As a matter of interest Israel have now killed 188 UNRWA workers in GAZA.
No I'm a philosemite who thinks that Jewish people appear to be the best hope for western civilisation. I'm sure Hamas made sure to put those relief workers in harm's way if they didn't kill them themselves that is.
(First of all noting that this is from the Telegrunt.)
I think both the ECJ and Welby (of whom I'm generally a fan) are being naif here.
He called on all United Nations member states – which includes the UK – to “respond positively” to the non-binding ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and for the “realisation of the Palestinian people’s fundamental right to self-determination”.
IMO that can't happen practically until the wider conflict in the ME - especially 'Iran' vs 'Saudi Arabia' - is in some way defused. Palestinian territories are a war zone, and imo a cause of the recent Hamas initiated conflict was Israel's progress in coming to normalisation agreements with Arab countries.
Iran can't be having that.
Israel withdrew from Gaza to the 1967 Green Line in 2005, and look what happened.
Sunni and Shia have been fighting each other for 1,400 years.
Sadly there’s not much chance of it stopping any time soon.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
I think you're either a national treasure or not.
Of those you mention, I actually think Moira Stewart makes the cut. The rest are TV presenters/personalities.
Nothing wrong with that, by the way. Plenty of good academics aren't Nobel Prizewinners, for instance.
Off topic with unseemly haste, the Dems appear to have quickly blocked off another line of attack by suspending the plea deal for the 9/11 planners. They really seem to have got their shit together.
Serious Q:
How can Dems suspend a plea deal? In the US system aiui that is a matter for the prosecutors, not a political decision.
Outside of the jurisdiction, in military custody. Which has been the problem with holding them to account in U.S. Courts from the start.
Bush tried to have it both ways, unconstrained by U.S. laws, and set up the problem they're now failing to solve.
Remarkable video of a woman who's son was kidnapped and murdered by a UNRWA employee heckling a speech by Phillipe Lazzarri the head of UNRWA. I wonder if he found time to speak with her afterwards?
It's in no way remarkable and it has been shown that UNRWA was not resonsible for any kidnapping. It was a story that has subsequently been found to be total bullshit.
Look, if UNRWA’s millkman was a bad un it obviously means they’re all in it together.
I see the Palestinian prisoner raped and crippled in an IDF prison has died. I suppose even if the folk accused of the raping & crippling hadn’t been released by a deranged mob, there was very little chance of them facing justice.
It's a pretty dismal situation. i wish they would at least stop their PR campaign. No one any longer believes a word they say. To have someone post a clip of a woman standing up to insult the head of UNRWA and calliung her 'heroic' when his organisation is almost single handedly keeping the 2,500,000 Gazans alive in the most shocking circumstances imaginable after losing 188 of his staff to Israeli bombs and bullets is almost obscene
Meanwhile the Israeli prison guards literally buggering a Palestinian prisoner to death has barely got a mention. Infact if it wasn't for the riots to hail the prison guards as heroes we wouldn't have heard about it.
Remarkable video of a woman who's son was kidnapped and murdered by a UNRWA employee heckling a speech by Phillipe Lazzarri the head of UNRWA. I wonder if he found time to speak with her afterwards?
It's in no way remarkable and it has been shown that UNRWA was not resonsible for any kidnapping. It was a story that has subsequently been found to be total bullshit.
Are you Jewish? I'm curious where you're getting your misinformation. As a matter of interest Israel have now killed 188 UNRWA workers in GAZA.
No I'm a philosemite who thinks that Jewish people appear to be the best hope for western civilisation. I'm sure Hamas made sure to put those relief workers in harm's way if they didn't kill them themselves that is.
I've seen a handful of posts recently statin things like: "After Gaza, the Jews can never again bleat on about the evils of the Holocaust."
Which oddly confuses 'Jews' and 'Israel'. When I looked at the posting history of one, I did not have to dig far to find some quite anti-Semitic posts.
It's another form of Holocaust denial: that Israel's actions somehow negate the Holocaust.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
Huw Edwards was also seen as a ‘national treasure’ until very recently. Don’t go there on Jimmy Savile either, who died thinking that he was a mad eccentric Englishman, before his scandal was revealed.
I don't think Edwards ever was. Savile probably was - but, as you say, was stripped of the status posthumously.
For me, national treasure status has elements of prominance and public affection, but the big factor is irreplacability. When David Attenborough dies, others will do nature programmes, and some will do it well, but it won't be like-for-like. Anyone else will either be a pale imitation or, if wise, do it in a different way.
For Portillo, where this started, I think his programmes are quite good, and he may well be a professional person to work with in making them. But wearing pastel jackets doesn't, frankly, make him irreplacable. Various other people could do the same in a similar way and to a similar standard.
(First of all noting that this is from the Telegrunt.)
I think both the ECJ and Welby (of whom I'm generally a fan) are being naif here.
He called on all United Nations member states – which includes the UK – to “respond positively” to the non-binding ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and for the “realisation of the Palestinian people’s fundamental right to self-determination”.
IMO that can't happen practically until the wider conflict in the ME - especially 'Iran' vs 'Saudi Arabia' - is in some way defused. Palestinian territories are a war zone, and imo a cause of the recent Hamas initiated conflict was Israel's progress in coming to normalisation agreements with Arab countries.
Iran can't be having that.
Israel withdrew from Gaza to the 1967 Green Line in 2005, and look what happened.
Sunni and Shia have been fighting each other for 1,400 years.
Sadly there’s not much chance of it stopping any time soon.
Yes - also Persian / Arab.
Yet that's the basic requirement.
Persian/Arab hostility goes back a long way further than Islam.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
On a brighter note, I've just returned from watching the Pride Parade that precedes a weekend of decadent debauchery in Brighton. Many, many thousands lining the streets enjoying the outrageous costumes and thumping music, smiling, laughing and cheering as the parade meanders past in all its tawdry glory. It's all a bit old hat now, but people still seem to love it. And, dare I say it, many of the floats represented the multicultural nation we live in.
(First of all noting that this is from the Telegrunt.)
I think both the ECJ and Welby (of whom I'm generally a fan) are being naif here.
He called on all United Nations member states – which includes the UK – to “respond positively” to the non-binding ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and for the “realisation of the Palestinian people’s fundamental right to self-determination”.
IMO that can't happen practically until the wider conflict in the ME - especially 'Iran' vs 'Saudi Arabia' - is in some way defused. Palestinian territories are a war zone, and imo a cause of the recent Hamas initiated conflict was Israel's progress in coming to normalisation agreements with Arab countries.
Iran can't be having that.
Israel withdrew from Gaza to the 1967 Green Line in 2005, and look what happened.
Sunni and Shia have been fighting each other for 1,400 years.
Sadly there’s not much chance of it stopping any time soon.
Which is one reason why people blaming everything in the region on events of the last 100 years or so is a a bit misplaced. Which is not to say the particular flavour of current conflicts is not based on that.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
Transworld sport early on a Saturday morning on Ch4 used to be good for this as well.
Yer carnt even call a sports programme Transworld Sport any more..
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
She could have made a speech of course. There are no 'rules' about the these things, just custom and practice. She was late, but IIRC, she's explained that.
Yes, she could have ignored the presiding officer, barged to the front, grabbed the mic as everyone was leaving the stage, and burst into 'My Way'. I am sure she would have got no criticism for that.
If you can't even persuade a returning officer to let you make a speech, we'll... it rather suggests that other tougher roles, like Prime Minister, may be a little beyond you.
I haven't suggested that she did want to, or that she should have done.
The criticism of her not making a speech is that it was a graceless cowardly breach of convention. Clearly that criticism is invalid, so now the critics are saying she should have challenged convention and made a speech depite it. Why should she? To satisfy the media? To satisfy some PBer's? It's a ridiculous line of attack.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
Transworld sport early on a Saturday morning on Ch4 used to be good for this as well.
Yer carnt even call a sports programme Transworld Sport any more..
Well it would certainly likely to have a different focus than covering sports such as the ancient predecessor to golf world championship.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo (a) didn't blow up the economy and (b) likes trains.
Dura Ace did use the word search, when talking about Truss as a potential National Treasure. For myself, I see her future as being alongside that of Jo Swinson.
I fairness to Swinson, she hasn't been desparately seeking attention since her defeat. She has a young family and has stepped well away from the frontline. She had a terrible election but hasn't turned herself into a joke since - she took defeat and moved on with her life.
I suspect Truss will go more down the Lembit Opik route.
There were quite a few Jo Swinson fanboys on PB around 2010 to 2015
Yes, but how is that relevant to the price of butter? Quite a few people over- or under-estimate the suitability of a particular person to a particular job.
The issue here is how people are seen after the event. Swinson is rightly seen as unsuccessful but not, I think, a joke. To the extent she is remembered (and the wider public probably don't remember her that well) I think people would at least say she took defeat with dignity and left the stage.
I suspect Sunak will also have that. A far more prominent figure, of course, and a far more politically significant defeeat. But he's the sort of character who is dealing with it with dignity and will continue to do so. That will soften the view of him in time.
For Truss, the historic nature of the failure always makes it tough. But she continues to do her best to reinforce the negative view on her. As I say, that's Lembit Opik-y (a much less prominent figure but one who also made a bad reputation worse after defeat).
Remarkable video of a woman who's son was kidnapped and murdered by a UNRWA employee heckling a speech by Phillipe Lazzarri the head of UNRWA. I wonder if he found time to speak with her afterwards?
It's in no way remarkable and it has been shown that UNRWA was not resonsible for any kidnapping. It was a story that has subsequently been found to be total bullshit.
Are you Jewish? I'm curious where you're getting your misinformation. As a matter of interest Israel have now killed 188 UNRWA workers in GAZA.
No I'm a philosemite who thinks that Jewish people appear to be the best hope for western civilisation. I'm sure Hamas made sure to put those relief workers in harm's way if they didn't kill them themselves that is.
Well as one of the world leaders in your new world order the first thing I'd propose would be to put people with simplistic racist ideas up against a wall and shoot them
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
It’s not just mass migration it is economic decline in these areas while growth, prosperity and spending is lavished on the south and the perception of two tier policing as well.
Violent BLM protests were reported as ‘mostly peaceful’
This allows the likes of Tommy Robinson to be heard.
Can I suggest some things which allow the likes of Tommy Robinson to be heard? People going on about Muslims supposedly being problematic in reaction to a tragic event that involved 0 Muslims; or going on about "legitimate questions" in the face of violent riots; or saying we need to have conversation about immigration as if we haven't been having a conversation about immigration over and over for at least a decade; or whatabout-ing the violence instead of condemning it.
I propose the best way to stop the likes of Tommy Robinson being heard is for everyone to condemn Robinson and the thugs who chant his name.
We’ve had little else other than a conversation about immigration since about 2005.
The Tories banged on about it endlessly while numbers went up. If people want to reduce immigration then “having a conversation about it” doesn’t appear to be particularly effective.
Both Tories and labour raged about it being too high and going up while actively encouraging it to do so. There’s been no conversation just patronising words from politicians saying one thing and doing another.
What would a conversation look like, in your view?
Had PB existed, do you think discussion on 11 November 1938 would have been the same? Legitimate questions, they don’t integrate, we just want to have a conversation…
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
Transworld sport early on a Saturday morning on Ch4 used to be good for this as well.
Yes, very good. I was trying to think of the name earlier, used to watch it loads back in the ‘90s.
If we’re going to have a BBC this is the sort of thing they should be doing, highlighting minor sports that don’t get coverage anywhere else. Many of them produce their own coverage anyway, so the marginal cost of the programme is almost nothing.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
Transworld sport early on a Saturday morning on Ch4 used to be good for this as well.
Yer carnt even call a sports programme Transworld Sport any more..
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
I'm sure if the losing former Prime Minister had wanted to say a few words to thank the counting staff, her activists and to address the public on what had been the worst Tory defeat in their 200 year history, an exception could have been made?
You didn't say 'she did not ask to have a special exception made so that she could make a graceful concession speech', you said 'she refused' like the 'coward she is'. Ill-informed mean spirited tripe.
Well that's me told!
But, but, but, I still hold the view that her behviour on election night and indeed since she crashed the economy, is cowardly as she refuses to accept any responsibility for what happened, has never apologized for her mistakes and just blames everyone else.
Failing to give a speech at her declaration fitted a pattern of behviour we've seen from her since 2022.
Given that most criticism of Truss here has been of her refusal to shut up and stop airing her views at any given opportunity, I completely fail to see how failing to break convention and make an un-asked for speech is fitting into any narrative about Truss's post premiership behaviour. Basically, you made a comment based on faulty information. We all do it, just own it - it sounds like you're refusing to accept responsibility for your mistakes and just blaming anyone else.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
Transworld sport early on a Saturday morning on Ch4 used to be good for this as well.
Yes, very good. I was trying to think of the name earlier, used to watch it loads back in the ‘90s.
If we’re going to have a BBC this is the sort of thing they should be doing, highlighting minor sports that don’t get coverage anywhere else. Many of them produce their own coverage anyway, so the marginal cost of the programme is almost nothing.
If i remember correctly, a number of minor sports actually pay towards being on Sky. So it isn't like there are mega billion rights package to fork out for.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
Sure! But the supposed cause of the rioting is "mass immigration and unchecked boat people". It isn't It's poverty. Migrants get the blame for poverty, but do you think the people kicking off would bother if they were well off? If their communities were thriving and prosperous?
Irish and British nationalists are standing side by side protesting against mass immigration while the left tries to shout them down.
Tricolour and Union Jack on one side, rainbow flags and Antifa flags on the other.
Just had a look at this. What first attracted you to a Twitter account that is explicitly racist, condones violence against immigrants, says 'Ireland for the Irish' and advocates deporting all non-white immigrants?
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
I believe if they choose to mark something distinct they would probably be categorised as White (other), which is a pretty broad category. I know people from North Africa who would (or have previously) ticked it.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
Huw Edwards was also seen as a ‘national treasure’ until very recently. Don’t go there on Jimmy Savile either, who died thinking that he was a mad eccentric Englishman, before his scandal was revealed.
I don't think Edwards ever was. Savile probably was - but, as you say, was stripped of the status posthumously.
For me, national treasure status has elements of prominance and public affection, but the big factor is irreplacability. When David Attenborough dies, others will do nature programmes, and some will do it well, but it won't be like-for-like. Anyone else will either be a pale imitation or, if wise, do it in a different way.
For Portillo, where this started, I think his programmes are quite good, and he may well be a professional person to work with in making them. But wearing pastel jackets doesn't, frankly, make him irreplacable. Various other people could do the same in a similar way and to a similar standard.
Attenborough’s death will be treated almost as seriously by the BBC as the death of the Queen. He definitely falls into the ‘national treasure’ category.
Auntie will need to find a replacement for Huw Edwards though!
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
I believe they would probably be categorised as White (other), which is a pretty broad category. I know people from North Africa who would (or have previously) ticked it.
'White (other) is the one Mrs j, as a Turk, uses if there is no other suitable options. It doesn't particularly fit, but most of the other options are worse.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
I'm not saying that you're wrong about poverty being an underlying cause, but one of the things people are trying to get their head round is how disturbances are flaring up in Sunderland or Manchester and don't appear to be organised by a big far right group like the defunct EDL. The answer is that these are semi-spontanous flash mobs (quite literally mobs in this case) being whipped up by socal media algos, quite probably with a bit of a local push from local hooligan firms.
Irish and British nationalists are standing side by side protesting against mass immigration while the left tries to shout them down.
Tricolour and Union Jack on one side, rainbow flags and Antifa flags on the other.
Just had a look at this. What first attracted you to a Twitter account that is explicitly racist, condones violence against immigrants, says 'Ireland for the Irish' and advocates deporting all non-white immigrants?
Elon Musk forced it onto my timeline. I thought it was an interesting development.
Irish and British nationalists are standing side by side protesting against mass immigration while the left tries to shout them down.
Tricolour and Union Jack on one side, rainbow flags and Antifa flags on the other.
Just had a look at this. What first attracted you to a Twitter account that is explicitly racist, condones violence against immigrants, says 'Ireland for the Irish' and advocates deporting all non-white immigrants?
Elon Musk forced it onto my timeline.
That tracks very well. The man is nothing is not predictable.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
I believe if they choose to mark something distinct they would probably be categorised as White (other), which is a pretty broad category. I know people from North Africa who would (or have previously) ticked it.
The UK (E&W) census categories are…
Code Name 1 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Bangladeshi 2 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Chinese 3 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Indian 4 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Pakistani 5 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Other Asian 6 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: African 7 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Caribbean 8 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Other Black 9 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Asian 10 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black African 11 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black Caribbean 12 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: Other Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups 13 White: English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British 14 White: Irish 15 White: Gypsy or Irish Traveller 16 White: Roma 17 White: Other White 18 Other ethnic group: Arab 19 Other ethnic group: Any other ethnic group
I presume someone identifying as Roma would select (15).
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
She could have made a speech of course. There are no 'rules' about the these things, just custom and practice. She was late, but IIRC, she's explained that.
Yes, she could have ignored the presiding officer, barged to the front, grabbed the mic as everyone was leaving the stage, and burst into 'My Way'. I am sure she would have got no criticism for that.
If you can't even persuade a returning officer to let you make a speech, we'll... it rather suggests that other tougher roles, like Prime Minister, may be a little beyond you.
I haven't suggested that she did want to, or that she should have done.
The criticism of her not making a speech is that it was a graceless cowardly breach of convention. Clearly that criticism is invalid, so now the critics are saying she should have challenged convention and made a speech depite it. Why should she? To satisfy the media? To satisfy some PBer's? It's a ridiculous line of attack.
I don't give a shit whether she gave a speech or not, but you are the person bleating on about how it was because defeated MPs never give speeches in that constituency.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
I'm not saying that you're wrong about poverty being an underlying cause, but one of the things people are trying to get their head round is how disturbances are flaring up in Sunderland or Manchester and don't appear to be organised by a big far right group like the defunct EDL. The answer is that these are semi-spontanous flash mobs (quite literally mobs in this case) being whipped up by socal media algos, quite probably with a bit of a local push from local hooligan firms.
As an FT subscriber I read it - a great piece. I know these places. I used to live in (the city of) Sunderland. I know the estates that these local flash mobs are flashing in. They are *grindingly* poor. Utterly abandoned by a society and an economy that is happy to have sink estates full of people that will struggle to escape them.
Why are trapped, impoverished and poorly educated people preyed upon via social media? Because they can be manipulated by people who want to manipulate them.
I just watch the social media feed of my two aunties and what they are reposting. Death Penalty, stand up for England, and one post even saying "whats wrong with our traditions" complete with Gollywog dolls.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
Sure! But the supposed cause of the rioting is "mass immigration and unchecked boat people". It isn't It's poverty. Migrants get the blame for poverty, but do you think the people kicking off would bother if they were well off? If their communities were thriving and prosperous?
Certainly poverty is a factor. It is much easier to rile people up if their life is already shit, they ain't got much to lose anyway. They are also most likely to encounter crime and we know the police are doing a very poor job in many of these communities solving any crime at all.
It is why places voted for Brexit, life is shit, what does all this bollocks about GDP fall matter if it shit around here already. F##k the lot of em, lets tip over the apple cart.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
I believe if they choose to mark something distinct they would probably be categorised as White (other), which is a pretty broad category. I know people from North Africa who would (or have previously) ticked it.
The UK (E&W) census categories are…
Code Name 1 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Bangladeshi 2 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Chinese 3 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Indian 4 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Pakistani 5 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Other Asian 6 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: African 7 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Caribbean 8 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Other Black 9 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Asian 10 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black African 11 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black Caribbean 12 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: Other Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups 13 White: English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British 14 White: Irish 15 White: Gypsy or Irish Traveller 16 White: Roma 17 White: Other White 18 Other ethnic group: Arab 19 Other ethnic group: Any other ethnic group
I presume someone identifying as Roma would select (15).
Eh? Not 16? (sorry - just waiting for the minestrone to cook)
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
I'm not saying that you're wrong about poverty being an underlying cause, but one of the things people are trying to get their head round is how disturbances are flaring up in Sunderland or Manchester and don't appear to be organised by a big far right group like the defunct EDL. The answer is that these are semi-spontanous flash mobs (quite literally mobs in this case) being whipped up by socal media algos, quite probably with a bit of a local push from local hooligan firms.
As Elon had said, what they care most about is "engagement".
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
Portillo's rehabilitation started on election night when he stood in front of the people and accepted their verdict with that memorable speech.
Truss, as the coward she is, flitted in at the last possible moment before the declaration and refused to give a speech.
She'd have to do something much more "intense" than SCD to earn rehabilitation from GBP. It's the Jungle for her, I think...
She didn't refuse to make a speech. The losers in South West Norfolk don't make speeches. Whatever else we accuse Truss of being, coward is pretty low on the list. Apart from that, great post.
She could have made a speech of course. There are no 'rules' about the these things, just custom and practice. She was late, but IIRC, she's explained that.
Yes, she could have ignored the presiding officer, barged to the front, grabbed the mic as everyone was leaving the stage, and burst into 'My Way'. I am sure she would have got no criticism for that.
If you can't even persuade a returning officer to let you make a speech, we'll... it rather suggests that other tougher roles, like Prime Minister, may be a little beyond you.
I haven't suggested that she did want to, or that she should have done.
The criticism of her not making a speech is that it was a graceless cowardly breach of convention. Clearly that criticism is invalid, so now the critics are saying she should have challenged convention and made a speech depite it. Why should she? To satisfy the media? To satisfy some PBer's? It's a ridiculous line of attack.
I don't give a shit whether she gave a speech or not, but you are the person bleating on about how it was because defeated MPs never give speeches in that constituency.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
I believe if they choose to mark something distinct they would probably be categorised as White (other), which is a pretty broad category. I know people from North Africa who would (or have previously) ticked it.
The UK (E&W) census categories are…
Code Name 1 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Bangladeshi 2 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Chinese 3 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Indian 4 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Pakistani 5 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Other Asian 6 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: African 7 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Caribbean 8 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Other Black 9 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Asian 10 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black African 11 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black Caribbean 12 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: Other Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups 13 White: English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British 14 White: Irish 15 White: Gypsy or Irish Traveller 16 White: Roma 17 White: Other White 18 Other ethnic group: Arab 19 Other ethnic group: Any other ethnic group
I presume someone identifying as Roma would select (15).
I assume that one was only available in the most recent censuses, likewise for 18.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The guy who has appeared in court for torching the bus is Roma. Are Roma people white? Aren't they a bit like Jews, in that they are a distinct race, i think originally from India.
Sure! But the supposed cause of the rioting is "mass immigration and unchecked boat people". It isn't It's poverty. Migrants get the blame for poverty, but do you think the people kicking off would bother if they were well off? If their communities were thriving and prosperous?
Certainly poverty is a factor. It is much easier to rile people up if their life is already shit, they ain't got much to lose anyway. They are also most likely to encounter crime and we know the police are doing a very poor job in many of these communities solving any crime at all.
And the other contributing factor for why now surely has to be that the criminal justice system is broken. Which prisons are we going to send racist scum rioters to? They're so full that they're letting people out early. Just as a lack of police encourages petty crimes to blossom unchecked, we can see the same effect as it all kicks off.
As I said earlier, why can't we round up these patriotic English perpetrators and send them to Rwanda? Ship the scum abroad.
For many of us the Track and Field is the highlight of the Olympics, and the 100m final tomorrow night the biggest event of the whole Games.
Women’s 100m final tonight, where we could see one of the most controversial world records ever set finally consigned to history after 36 years.
Track and field is always the big ticket item at the Olympics. By far the biggest crowds, and the stadium is ther centrepiece of the event.
I have to say, though, the joy of the Olympics for me is the sports you don't really see at other times and suddenly intensely enjoy for a few days. Athletics (and other things like tennis and football) are ones where there are major events every year.
Tbf. The other sports do have major events every year. They just aren't covered in this country.
True - should have said we don't see major events every year. Although I don't think the UK is unique in giving limited coverage to the modern pentathlon between Olympics.
Bring back Grandstand!
Yes, Grandstand! The sort of thing the BBC should be doing, highlighting major events in minor sports.
Transworld sport early on a Saturday morning on Ch4 used to be good for this as well.
Yes, very good. I was trying to think of the name earlier, used to watch it loads back in the ‘90s.
If we’re going to have a BBC this is the sort of thing they should be doing, highlighting minor sports that don’t get coverage anywhere else. Many of them produce their own coverage anyway, so the marginal cost of the programme is almost nothing.
If i remember correctly, a number of minor sports actually pay towards being on Sky. So it isn't like there are mega billion rights package to fork out for.
That sounds exactly like how a commercial operator would work, auctioning spots on TV for the minor sports to compete with each other for Sky’s eyeballs, at a cost to the sports probably out of proportion to the number of eyeballs.
Which is why the BBC should bring back Grandstand, doing what the commercial broadcasters generally won’t.
I don't doubt events on Monday will make Labour more worried about the impact of the small boats issue. Will they make any policy change? Not sure.
How does torching a CAB help Stop the Boats?
It doesn't.
If Labour change any policies to appease these racists fukwits then democracy is dead.
Do you not know the days of the week? Monday was the day three girls were stabbed to death and many more could have been by the son of Rwandan migrants. You're a fool if you don't think that won't influence the public at all.
The narrative was created on Twitter by a right wing agent provocateur. A woman who has form for fake news. Farage, either by cockup or conspiracy ran with that narrative.
Loads of people calling LBC later this week were sticking with the alleged murderer being a Syrian (Muslim) Refugee. The notion that a lie gets half way around the world before the truth has got it's boots on is a truism.
It wouldn't surprise me if LBC deliberately put those people through. But again do we have any hard data on how many believed the Syrian refugee story?
Anyway the rioters are thugs from what I can see. If people really want to draw attention to migration problems they can glue themselves to the road which I'd suggest would be more effective.
The mindless violence and boorishness of the Yaxley Lennon brigade is the biggest asset their opponents have.
Fckn hell, sort your quotes out!
Those are my words. Since sorted that quoting clusterfuck in any case before the six minute hammer dropped.
Post election come down, innit? Blue vermin sent packing and we now contemplate the new reality.
Hopefully we'll have a really good, blood drenched and flame wreathed riot season. Then the tory conference should be a laugh, then we're into the US Presidential carnage, then Strictly then it's the Holidays.
Got a bet on Gove doing Strictly before 2026.
He'd f-ing better.
JRM could make quite a good ballroom dancer, I think. Not sure how he'd get on doing a Salsa though... 😂
I could see Truss doing SCD in a search for rehabilitation as a Portillo style National Treasure.
There is no sense in which Michael Portillo is a "national treasure".
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
McCloud is in some sort of second or third tier of treasures though. Alongside, let’s see, Martin Lewis, Kirsty Wark, Moira Stewart, Mr Tumble, Bear Grylls etc.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
There are some seriously different scales going on here.
Kevin Mcloud has in quite serious measure shat his own bed. Andy Murray - maybe a second tier national treasure; for tennis, Cliff Richard is closer. Stephen Fry has had some bizarre behaviour such as his repeated Social Media tantrums, and suffers from ingrowing pomposity.
Awful scenes yesterday in Sunderland, and my friend in Newcastle has been told by their friend at the RVI that they are on alert for a potential riot in Newcastle today.
Time that we crack down on these micro-brain “patriots”. We can’t jail them as they are full, and they are a menace to society. So why not deport them to Rwanda? We already spent the money on that, let’s get best value for the taxpayer
These riots could now become a feature not a bug
Why? Because the underlying cause - mass immigration and unchecked boat people - is not going away. It might easily get worse. There will be another Southport, another Manchester arena - tragically. And next time the explosion will be instant
Starmer doesn’t appear to remotely understand this. He thinks it’s a passing issue of civil disorder
Da Libz (and @RochdalePioneers is one) will only ever think it's the far-right and a crackdown will sort it and make it go away.
They have zero desire to engage any further than that because it would require them to ask some difficult questions.
This is in response to both of you. The underlying cause is *poverty*. Not mass migration or boat people. The alleged perp in Southport is a born and raised Welshman, in a very religious Christian family. Its kicking off because people with no hope can be whipped into a frenzy by manipulative fucks to believe said Christian was shouting about Allah.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
Unexpectedly, Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves disagrees with you. In fact in 2016 she explicitly predicted these riots unless immigration was controlled
“Rachel Reeves warns in 2016 that riots could sweep the streets of Britain if immigration is not controlled.
She compares her constituency in Leeds to a “tinder box” and fears that voters’ concerns over immigration could “explode” on to the streets if unaddressed.”
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3 points for each Gold
2 points for each Silver
1 point for each Bronze.
The Defence Sec has exercised political control of the military legal system in a country which is supposed to believe in separation of powers.
What a mess.
https://archive.ph/5Kgu1
For myself, I see her future as being alongside that of Jo Swinson.
The more fundamental reason medal tables are misleading is the "value" of a medal is sport-specific. People can pick up multiple medals at a single games in swimming, gymnastics, track cycling etc. There's nothing wrong with that, but there are a load of sports where a great Olympian has one shot per Games. Jason Kenny and Steve Redgrave were both great Olympians, but you can't just tot up the medals and say Kenny was "better". And that's leaving aside that some sports are more competitive than others - winning in a kayak is an amazing achievement and it's not the fault of competitors that athletics is a bigger sport and there are many more good athletes competing for the 100m.
We follow Liz and fellow travellers as they compete to come up with ever more exotic ideas to savage the state, all the while falling in and out of relationships.
Are you Jewish? I'm curious where you're getting your misinformation. As a matter of interest Israel have now killed 188 UNRWA workers in GAZA.
Given the Eurozone runs a sizeable current account surplus, it seems unlikely that the bloc's trade position has anything to do with their stagnation.
That was't, though, what made me at any rate, dislike and distrust him.
We could all get behind that right?
I don't say that because I particularly dislike him - some of his programmes are quite watchable. But Grand Designs is quite watchable without making Kevin McCloud a "national treasure".
I see the Palestinian prisoner raped and crippled in an IDF prison has died. I suppose even if the folk accused of the raping & crippling hadn’t been released by a deranged mob, there was very little chance of them facing justice.
(Incidentally, it's got one of the worst depictions of Churchill I can remember seeing, by Rory Kinnear.)
And Teddy Riner was awesome in the judo and what a smile. My son was rather good at judo and sometimes you weren't sure what score was appropriate (although there were 4 types then rather than the 2 now). No doubt with Riner. Ippon every time.
I suspect Truss will go more down the Lembit Opik route.
them just a taste of Gove to create tension.
I think both the ECJ and Welby (of whom I'm generally a fan) are being naif here.
He called on all United Nations member states – which includes the UK – to “respond positively” to the non-binding ruling by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and for the “realisation of the Palestinian people’s fundamental right to self-determination”.
IMO that can't happen practically until the wider conflict in the ME - especially 'Iran' vs 'Saudi Arabia' - is in some way defused. Palestinian territories are a war zone, and imo a cause of the recent Hamas initiated conflict was Israel's progress in coming to normalisation agreements with Arab countries.
Iran can't be having that.
Israel withdrew from Gaza to the 1967 Green Line in 2005, and look what happened.
Got to meet someone now so can't look into it further NB opened in 1939 March I think.
Because you seem to be setting a lot of value on her excuses.
The point is that SW Norfolk hasn't had a defeated MP for 60 years. I am unsure if history records whether Albert Hilton spoke in 1964.
Just looking at the video from the declaration, it does seem the RO invited Truss to speak and she declined, although it's a little unclear.
We need some sort of classification system. True national treasure status is very exclusive and reserved for the likes of Judi Dench or Stephen Fry or Andy Murray. But there’s a second and third flight that should perhaps be called mini-treasures or semi-precious. Then there’s an Uber level of hyper-treasures occupied by the late Queen Mother, and Attenborough.
So until that next report is completed your denial is unfounded.
Martin Lewis is a national treasure?
.BBC News - Teen allegedly paid by Huw Edwards 'felt groomed'
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2g2985xn9o
But, but, but, I still hold the view that her behviour on election night and indeed since she crashed the economy, is cowardly as she refuses to accept any responsibility for what happened, has never apologized for her mistakes and just blames everyone else.
Failing to give a speech at her declaration fitted a pattern of behviour we've seen from her since 2022.
But they claim they are not far right?
But it was actually a good show at times.
Sadly there’s not much chance of it stopping any time soon.
Kevin Mcloud has in quite serious measure shat his own bed. Andy Murray - maybe a second tier national treasure; for tennis, Cliff Richard is closer. Stephen Fry has had some bizarre behaviour such as his repeated Social Media tantrums, and suffers from ingrowing pomposity.
Judi Dench ... maybe.
Attenborough ... probably.
Yet that's the basic requirement.
Of those you mention, I actually think Moira Stewart makes the cut. The rest are TV presenters/personalities.
Nothing wrong with that, by the way. Plenty of good academics aren't Nobel Prizewinners, for instance.
Which has been the problem with holding them to account in U.S. Courts from the start.
Bush tried to have it both ways, unconstrained by U.S. laws, and set up the problem they're now failing to solve.
Meanwhile the Israeli prison guards literally buggering a Palestinian prisoner to death has barely got a mention. Infact if it wasn't for the riots to hail the prison guards as heroes we wouldn't have heard about it.
Which oddly confuses 'Jews' and 'Israel'. When I looked at the posting history of one, I did not have to dig far to find some quite anti-Semitic posts.
It's another form of Holocaust denial: that Israel's actions somehow negate the Holocaust.
For me, national treasure status has elements of prominance and public affection, but the big factor is irreplacability. When David Attenborough dies, others will do nature programmes, and some will do it well, but it won't be like-for-like. Anyone else will either be a pale imitation or, if wise, do it in a different way.
For Portillo, where this started, I think his programmes are quite good, and he may well be a professional person to work with in making them. But wearing pastel jackets doesn't, frankly, make him irreplacable. Various other people could do the same in a similar way and to a similar standard.
Before the Southport horror it kicked off in dirty Leeds, with initially an incident where Romanian kids were being taken away, which then led to the residents torching a bus. The people filmed torching the bus in supposed protest? White.
I want to engage on issues of poverty. It is you two fine gentlemen who do not. Easier to blame the forrin. Even when the supposed Forrin is British.
The best of tolerant, open-minded Britain.
The criticism of her not making a speech is that it was a graceless cowardly breach of convention. Clearly that criticism is invalid, so now the critics are saying she should have challenged convention and made a speech depite it. Why should she? To satisfy the media? To satisfy some PBer's? It's a ridiculous line of attack.
The issue here is how people are seen after the event. Swinson is rightly seen as unsuccessful but not, I think, a joke. To the extent she is remembered (and the wider public probably don't remember her that well) I think people would at least say she took defeat with dignity and left the stage.
I suspect Sunak will also have that. A far more prominent figure, of course, and a far more politically significant defeeat. But he's the sort of character who is dealing with it with dignity and will continue to do so. That will soften the view of him in time.
For Truss, the historic nature of the failure always makes it tough. But she continues to do her best to reinforce the negative view on her. As I say, that's Lembit Opik-y (a much less prominent figure but one who also made a bad reputation worse after defeat).
Belfast
Now this is interesting.
Irish and British nationalists are standing side by side protesting against mass immigration while the left tries to shout them down.
Tricolour and Union Jack on one side, rainbow flags and Antifa flags on the other.
If we’re going to have a BBC this is the sort of thing they should be doing, highlighting minor sports that don’t get coverage anywhere else. Many of them produce their own coverage anyway, so the marginal cost of the programme is almost nothing.
And it's apologised.
Auntie will need to find a replacement for Huw Edwards though!
I'm not saying that you're wrong about poverty being an underlying cause, but one of the things people are trying to get their head round is how disturbances are flaring up in Sunderland or Manchester and don't appear to be organised by a big far right group like the defunct EDL. The answer is that these are semi-spontanous flash mobs (quite literally mobs in this case) being whipped up by socal media algos, quite probably with a bit of a local push from local hooligan firms.
Code Name
1 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Bangladeshi
2 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Chinese
3 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Indian
4 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Pakistani
5 Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh: Other Asian
6 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: African
7 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Caribbean
8 Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African: Other Black
9 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Asian
10 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black African
11 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: White and Black Caribbean
12 Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups: Other Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups
13 White: English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British
14 White: Irish
15 White: Gypsy or Irish Traveller
16 White: Roma
17 White: Other White
18 Other ethnic group: Arab
19 Other ethnic group: Any other ethnic group
I presume someone identifying as Roma would select (15).
Why are trapped, impoverished and poorly educated people preyed upon via social media? Because they can be manipulated by people who want to manipulate them.
I just watch the social media feed of my two aunties and what they are reposting. Death Penalty, stand up for England, and one post even saying "whats wrong with our traditions" complete with Gollywog dolls.
It is why places voted for Brexit, life is shit, what does all this bollocks about GDP fall matter if it shit around here already. F##k the lot of em, lets tip over the apple cart.
As I said earlier, why can't we round up these patriotic English perpetrators and send them to Rwanda? Ship the scum abroad.
Which is why the BBC should bring back Grandstand, doing what the commercial broadcasters generally won’t.
“Rachel Reeves warns in 2016 that riots could sweep the streets of Britain if immigration is not controlled.
She compares her constituency in Leeds to a “tinder box” and fears that voters’ concerns over immigration could “explode” on to the streets if unaddressed.”
lol
https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1819283997161046453?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
And what happened? Concerns about migration were not addressed. And now we have riots exploding across the country as she foresaw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics
Can we expect a racist whine in the Guardian similar to this:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jul/18/england-women-squad-euro-2022-whiteness-diversity