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Sir John Curtice updates the BBC forecast as Farage wins – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,158
edited July 5 in General
Sir John Curtice updates the BBC forecast as Farage wins – politicalbetting.com

NEW: BBC Forecast reduces Labour majority, Tories up beyond 150 seats:LAB: 405CON: 154LIB: 56SNP: 6REF: 4

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  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,171
    First.
  • 148grss148grss Posts: 4,155
    Hearing Carla has won Bristol Central and Greens a very strong second in Bristol South
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,261
    edited July 5
    Sir John has done an outstanding job with this exit poll in what is a very difficult and complicated election.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    edited July 5
    Fareham & Waterlooville -> Con hold

    Con (Braverman) 17,561
    Lab 11,482
    LD 9,533
    Ref 9,084
    Grn 2,056
    Rejoin 210
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjl65p8j87ko
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,408
    Lichfield has gone Labour. Wow!
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,983
    Andy_JS said:

    Fareham & Waterlooville -> Con hold

    Con 17,561
    Lab 11,482
    LD 9,533
    Ref 9,084
    Rejoin 210

    One of the few tactical voting fails of the election so far.
  • PedestrianRockPedestrianRock Posts: 580
    edited July 5
    Have the BBC adjusted this down too much based on some very specific, weird seats, like Chingford and Leicester South?
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Braverman returned.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,110
    rcs1000 said:

    I think I may be able to afford a new bicycle.

    I have my eyes on an a very nice carbon fiber one with SRAM AXS Rival.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,806
    Suella holds on in Fareham!
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,645
    Chris Curtis of YouGov has been elected.
  • rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 8,283
    Gillian Keegan annihilated in Chichester... lib dems with a 12k majority I think!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    Blimey, not even close in Chicester.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,874
    Labour gain Hemel Hempstead
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    PedestrianRock said:

    Have the BBC adjusted this down too much based on some very specific, weird seats, like Chingford and Leicester South?

    Just a tweak really
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,019
    Beeb saying the Greens have Bristol Central.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,983
    148grss said:

    Hearing Carla has won Bristol Central and Greens a very strong second in Bristol South

    That’ll be a Green gain in Bristol South in 2029.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,651
    Yes, Starmer is doing poorly among some minorities like Muslims, but he's winning lots of seats among other minorities like Scots.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,874
    edited July 5
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Suella holds on in Fareham!

    Suella speaking now and trying to look like leadership material, says sorry for the party breaking its promises
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Greens take Bristol C, confirmed
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    Bristol Central goes Green!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,228
    SUELLA FOR LEADER
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,394
    Goodness me, I did back the LDs in Hampshire NE as well.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    Chris Curtis of YouGov has been elected.

    Of Opinium.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    Great Grimsby & Cleethorpes -> Lab gain

    Lab 15,336
    Ref 10,533
    Con 8,269
    Grn 1,115
    LD 1,036
    TUSC 222
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    edited July 5
    Bristol Central -> Green gain
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,660
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I think I may be able to afford a new bicycle.

    I have my eyes on an a very nice carbon fiber one with SRAM AXS Rival.
    Surely you need DuraAce...
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,261
    HYUFD said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Suella holds on in Fareham!

    Suella speaking now and trying to look like leadership material
    If Sue-Ellen did become Con leader they really would be back to being the Nasty Party
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,687
    El_Capitano said:

    Bristol Central goes Green!

    Hurrah!! Carla will be excellent in the Commons.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    Just wondering whether Lab might slip below 400 seats with these occasional losses.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,171
    Casino_Royale said:

    Goodness me, I did back the LDs in Hampshire NE as well.

    I had £3 at 33-1. Also had money on the Tories, but a good result overall.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,704
    Con holfd Staffs Moorlands - maj 1,175
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,645
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    Chris Curtis of YouGov has been elected.

    Of Opinium.
    Not of tripe?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,228
    It’s Suella or Kemi for Leader
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,043
    56.6% for Denyer in Bristol C is the largest vote share I’ve seen for any party so far!
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,651
    SNP hold Perth and Kinross-shire, which percentages be damned is their historically safest seat.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,806
    HYUFD said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Suella holds on in Fareham!

    Suella speaking now and trying to look like leadership material
    Awful stuff
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,874
    edited July 5
    PedestrianRock said:

    Have the BBC adjusted this down too much based on some very specific, weird seats, like Chingford and Leicester South?

    The results so far in Labour v Tory seats almost exactly match the results in 1997.

    It is only in Tory v LD seats where the Tories are doing significantly worse than 1997, especially in strong Remain seats.

    Tories are doing better in Scotland though than 1997 it looks like and will avoid the wipe out they received then
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,043
    So, 3 Labour losses so far
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Very narrow Tory hold in Havant
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Leon said:

    It’s Suella or Kemi for Leader

    Hey, don't forget IDS held on...
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,756
    Carla Denyer will be the best looking MP in my book
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,280
    MikeL said:

    Con holfd Staffs Moorlands - maj 1,175

    I can hear the echo. "Ooooh, Blair won that"
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,035
    She’s awful.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,054
    "Malleus ScotNatorum"

    I laughed. I tried not to. But I laughed. I am a bad person
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,615
    Andy_JS said:

    Just wondering whether Lab might slip below 400 seats with these occasional losses.

    could be close. I am Green on less than 400.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Braverman just sounds deranged.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,960
    By what time do you think we will get a national vote share estimate?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,806
    Basildon declares!
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    Braverman is revolting
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Snp will be well above 6, Perth is a hold. Can't see any Con gains
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,148
    Lib Dems being down on the exit poll in this new prediction is odd.

    Exit poll had Newton Abbot at 41% shot for them, Stratford-on-Avon 36%, Chichester 15%, and NE Hampshire 9%. Where are the equivalent misses so far?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    Chris Curtis of YouGov has been elected.

    Of Opinium.
    Not of tripe?
    No, you're confusing my posts for your posts on Silicon Valley Bank.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    biggles said:

    She’s awful.

    What a creepy speech.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    Basildon declaration.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,874
    edited July 5
    Leon said:

    It’s Suella or Kemi for Leader

    No, Tory MPs will put Barclay and Tugendhat to the members is my view still
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    I've got a Lab MP for the first time at a general election, (although there was briefly one due to a by-election).
  • Tim_in_RuislipTim_in_Ruislip Posts: 435
    edited July 5
    ThomasNashe said:

    Braverman just sounds deranged.

    Not to your average GBeebies viewer.

    Her problem may well be that she's not deranged enough.
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 794
    edited July 5
    Leon said:

    It’s Suella or Kemi for Leader

    Kemi's lovely.

    Suella's evil.

    So she'll probably win...

    (I still think tories if any sense should wait a bit before choosing)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,687
    Monksfield said:

    HYUFD said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    Suella holds on in Fareham!

    Suella speaking now and trying to look like leadership material
    Awful stuff
    Good luck Tories if she is leader. Five wasted years ahead.

    The next tory PM is still at sixth form or at least at an Oxford Ball.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,615
    bondegezou said:

    56.6% for Denyer in Bristol C is the largest vote share I’ve seen for any party so far!

    We heard it from @MoonRabbit first
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,171
    Holden by 20 votes.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,574
    Holden holds on.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,806
    Holden just hangs on to Basildon!
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,645
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    Chris Curtis of YouGov has been elected.

    Of Opinium.
    Not of tripe?
    No, you're confusing my posts for your posts on Silicon Valley Bank.
    No I think I know exactly what your posts are and that is 99% tripe. You may be a good moderator (remains to be seen) but you don't half post nonsense.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,035
    Foxy said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Just wondering whether Lab might slip below 400 seats with these occasional losses.

    could be close. I am Green on less than 400.
    Won’t take a lot for the SNP to sneak some and help get the number under 400.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    Dic Holden wins by 20 votes.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    edited July 5
    Basildon & Billericay -> Con hold

    Con (Holden) 12,905
    Lab 12,885
    Ref 11,354
    LD 2,292
    Grn 2,123
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,806
    These streams from declarations are hopeless. Better years ago.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,983
    edited July 5
    SMukesh said:

    Carla Denyer will be the best looking MP in my book

    Lib Dem MP for Chichester
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 8,716
    edited July 5
    Oooh, that's close in Bas-vegas!

    Holden-on
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,651
    Chicken run wins by a neck.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,228
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    It’s Suella or Kemi for Leader

    No, Tory MPs will put Barclay and Tugendhat to the members is my view still
    Well then you’re fucking doomed
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,756
    Wow. 20 votes.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    Holden wins Basildon on about 28%
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,806
    Yes! Cates has gone. Bye!
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Really disappointing news from Basildon.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    Sky News -> 100 votes in it in Godalming & Ash.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,660
    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    It’s Suella or Kemi for Leader

    No, Tory MPs will put Barclay and Tugendhat to the members is my view still
    Is now the time to end that policy and leave it to MPs?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    Hubris rather than humility from IDS
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    viewcode said:

    "Malleus ScotNatorum"

    I laughed. I tried not to. But I laughed. I am a bad person

    Why are you a bad person for laughing at that?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    The provision of results and declarations gets worse at each election I've watched.
  • Nunu5Nunu5 Posts: 964
    High chance Labour lose at least one of the Tower Hamlet seats now
  • JamesFJamesF Posts: 42
    HUGE HUGE HUGE Green win in Bristol Central!
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    BBC giving Carla Denyer about 1% of the attention they give Farage.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,054
    Green 56.6% +30.6
    Labour Lab 32.6% −25.9
    Conservative Con 4.6% −9.7
    Reform UK Reform 3.1% +1.9
    Liberal Democrat Lib Dem 2.7% +2.7
    Party of Women Women 0.5% +0.5

    https://election.news.sky.com/elections/general-election-2024/bristol-central-99
    https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/12273/chronicle-of-a-bet-foretold-thin-gruel-politicalbetting-com
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    BatteryCorrectHorse said:

    Chris Curtis of YouGov has been elected.

    Of Opinium.
    Not of tripe?
    No, you're confusing my posts for your posts on Silicon Valley Bank.
    No I think I know exactly what your posts are and that is 99% tripe. You may be a good moderator (remains to be seen) but you don't half post nonsense.
    Cheerio
  • BatteryCorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorse Posts: 3,645
    The recent results sure are weird.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,539
    edited July 5
    Boston & Skegness -> Reform gain

    Ref 15,520
    Con 13,510
    Lab 7,629
    Grn 1,506
    LD 1,375
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860
    IDS thoroughly graceless on BBC
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    Monksfield said:

    Yes! Cates has gone. Bye!

    Tory gain.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,806
    Tice GAINS Boston for REFORM!
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,009
    Tice elected
  • DumbosaurusDumbosaurus Posts: 794
    Chameleon said:

    Really disappointing news from Basildon.

    made a lovely evening so far very angry me grrr
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    IanB2 said:

    Hubris rather than humility from IDS

    Who cares, he's a good MP. Glad he's back.

    Suella however...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,874
    LDs gain Tunbridge Wells
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,598
    Tice wins Boston & Skegeness for Reform.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,228
    Oh god, the centrist dads of PB sound like the French Republicans in about 2015
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