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  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    I’m on my way to a meeting. Is he still droning on?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,572
    edited October 2023
    Talking about A=levels, but nothing about the scandal of illiteracy and innumeracy.

    Boo hiss. :(

    edit: just as he mentions it, but in a slightly odd way...
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    edited October 2023
    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    I guess maths to 18 will at least make it easier for future generations to notice when people like Sunak are double-counting their transport spending pledges.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,188

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    Raising smoking age year on year is a very good policy. Well done Rishi.

    Sounds like something for a royal commission rather than a PM's intuition. I'm probably in favour but would like it discussed more thoroughly.
    What is in the pro column for smoking, apart from I suppose the tax revenue?
    Some people enjoy it?
    People enjoy doing many different illegal things.
    Smoking is not illegal, though.
    At least, not right now.
    Will be for anyone under 14 now though it seems
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    Raising smoking age year on year is a very good policy. Well done Rishi.

    Sounds like something for a royal commission rather than a PM's intuition. I'm probably in favour but would like it discussed more thoroughly.
    What is in the pro column for smoking, apart from I suppose the tax revenue?
    Some people enjoy it?
    People enjoy doing many different illegal things.
    Smoking is not illegal, though.
    At least, not right now.
    76,000 people died from smoking related diseases in 2021.
    They mostly voted for Brexit, though,
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    Oh God, Advanced British Standard. Maths to 18.

    Make it stop.
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,904

    Not sure about the first lady stuff.. seems a bit unBritish.

    Are you suggesting that Richi is a bit un-British?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    HYUFD said:

    Excellent announcement from Rishi on a whole range of new transport schemes in the North and Midlands, electrification of North Wales line and improved links between Scotland + NI funded by scrapping of final leg of HS2

    You don't have to answer the question below out loud, just do it in your head.

    "Do you believe him?"
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829

    FFS, fire up the Huey.

    Rather worried that I instantly grasped your allusion. Though strictly speaking the Hueys were already running when they arrived at the US Embassy.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,664
    edited October 2023
    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.

    I'm not sure it helped in any case.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,126

    Oh God, Advanced British Standard. Maths to 18.

    Make it stop.

    Honestly, this is dire stuff.

    If he is still leader next year, I can't bring myself to vote Tory.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    "Our teachers do one of the most valuable jobs in our society and we should reward them"

    They're still not going to vote for you, Rish.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    ClippP said:

    Not sure about the first lady stuff.. seems a bit unBritish.

    Are you suggesting that Richi is a bit un-British?
    No, I think it's the California/American influence on him.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    “Britain needs new ideas. That’s why today, Conference, I can announce I am stepping down with immediate effect. And welcoming to the role of Prime Minister a natural born leader, a mother - and a friend. That person is Liz Truss.”
  • RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    Raising smoking age year on year is a very good policy. Well done Rishi.

    Sounds like something for a royal commission rather than a PM's intuition. I'm probably in favour but would like it discussed more thoroughly.
    What is in the pro column for smoking, apart from I suppose the tax revenue?
    Some people enjoy it?
    People enjoy doing many different illegal things.
    Smoking is not illegal, though.
    At least, not right now.
    76,000 people died from smoking related diseases in 2021.
    There were just under 10,000 deaths caused by alcohol in that same year. Where do you decide it is right to ban something and wrong to ban something else? What about eating meat? Or sugar? Should governments be banning these as well.

    This should not even be on the radar for any Government.

    Its the old joke.

    If you don't drink, don't smoke, go vegetarian, don't eat sweet things and abstain from sex you don't actually live any longer. It just feels like it.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,288
    eristdoof said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    Is it the case that Labour, with all that caution, hedging, don't know and mystery they show, have a far more developed programme for government than the Tories do.

    What are their actual ideas?

    Why would they tell you?

    While the Govenment is self-imploding there's no need for Labour to say anything yet. Anouncing their policies too early will just be handing the Tories the dead cats they are so desperately hoping for.
    I mean even with what little we do know of Labour's plans, I think we may still know more of their platform than we do of the Tory one.

    That said, the A level stuff is somewhat more meaty.
  • HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.
    3 in Maths? Maths, Further Maths, and?
  • HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    Conference applause for the education changes seemed muted and grudging.
  • RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    Raising smoking age year on year is a very good policy. Well done Rishi.

    Sounds like something for a royal commission rather than a PM's intuition. I'm probably in favour but would like it discussed more thoroughly.
    What is in the pro column for smoking, apart from I suppose the tax revenue?
    Some people enjoy it?
    People enjoy doing many different illegal things.
    Smoking is not illegal, though.
    At least, not right now.
    76,000 people died from smoking related diseases in 2021.
    There were just under 10,000 deaths caused by alcohol in that same year. Where do you decide it is right to ban something and wrong to ban something else? What about eating meat? Or sugar? Should governments be banning these as well.
    Don't give Sunil ideas, FFS!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829

    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.
    3 in Maths? Maths, Further Maths, and?
    Maths with Mechanics? Maths'n'Stats? I did the former.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,188

    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.

    I'm not sure it helped in any case.
    General studies ? I remember that one. Turn up for your A !
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485

    Oh God, Advanced British Standard. Maths to 18.

    Make it stop.

    Has he really just abolished A-levels, the gold standard of British education, and best thing about school education?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419

    I am surprised this hasn't made any headline,

    My understanding is that, after studying the Prime Minister’s dreadful polling numbers in recent months, Sunak’s close advisers called the exiled Cummings in from the cold. According to a source who works inside No. 10, the advice from Cummings was bracing: shifting the public’s perceptions of Sunak would be incredibly difficult. He made clear that only very big, very noisy moves would have any chance of persuading people that Sunak is an agent of change. No. 10 needed to pick some big public fights; the more blowback from former prime ministers and big business figures the better. Or, as one insider characterised Cummings’s advice: “Do mental stuff that proves you’re not the Establishment.”

    https://unherd.com/2023/10/the-brutal-death-of-manchester-toryism/

    Wow. You know, I never linked it to Cummings, but this era does have his sort of feel. The meat ban - not likely to happen but got people talking about banning meat. The 7 bins. He's pulling together the 2018 coalition too.

    He's right that Sunak is shit at selling it though.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,572

    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.
    3 in Maths? Maths, Further Maths, and?
    Pure maths, statistics, and applied maths. :)
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    Scrap HS2, scrap A-levels, borrow New Zealand's smoking law, build the Shipley Bypass.

    There have been... more compelling policy programmes than this?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited October 2023
    kjh said:

    Ghedebrav said:

    A somewhat random question:

    How many MPs went through the care system as children?

    From the top of my head, Esther McVey was fostered; different thing again, but Gove was adopted; not sure what age.

    From the other side of the fence Edward Timpson grew up in a family that (commendably) fostered many children, so understands the system better than most might,
    John Timpson is quite impressive for what he has done.
    The whole family is. Not just the fostering of 100+ kids by Mr and Mrs Timpson Snr have done over the years, but the way they hire / train up ex-cons to work in the family business, that has an excellent reputation for treating their staff well.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,647
    Advanced British Standard - putting the brakes on education.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,126

    I am surprised this hasn't made any headline,

    My understanding is that, after studying the Prime Minister’s dreadful polling numbers in recent months, Sunak’s close advisers called the exiled Cummings in from the cold. According to a source who works inside No. 10, the advice from Cummings was bracing: shifting the public’s perceptions of Sunak would be incredibly difficult. He made clear that only very big, very noisy moves would have any chance of persuading people that Sunak is an agent of change. No. 10 needed to pick some big public fights; the more blowback from former prime ministers and big business figures the better. Or, as one insider characterised Cummings’s advice: “Do mental stuff that proves you’re not the Establishment.”

    https://unherd.com/2023/10/the-brutal-death-of-manchester-toryism/

    Wow. You know, I never linked it to Cummings, but this era does have his sort of feel. The meat ban - not likely to happen but got people talking about banning meat. The 7 bins. He's pulling together the 2018 coalition too.

    He's right that Sunak is shit at selling it though.
    It also doesn't ring true when you're taxing people far more harshly.

    People rightly think, so where is all my bloody money going?
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.
    3 in Maths? Maths, Further Maths, and?
    Maths and Further Maths, doesn't that make three maths A-Levels?
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,664

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    Raising smoking age year on year is a very good policy. Well done Rishi.

    Sounds like something for a royal commission rather than a PM's intuition. I'm probably in favour but would like it discussed more thoroughly.
    What is in the pro column for smoking, apart from I suppose the tax revenue?
    Some people enjoy it?
    People enjoy doing many different illegal things.
    Smoking is not illegal, though.
    At least, not right now.
    76,000 people died from smoking related diseases in 2021.
    There were just under 10,000 deaths caused by alcohol in that same year. Where do you decide it is right to ban something and wrong to ban something else? What about eating meat? Or sugar? Should governments be banning these as well.

    This should not even be on the radar for any Government.

    Its the old joke.

    If you don't drink, don't smoke, go vegetarian, don't eat sweet things and abstain from sex you don't actually live any longer. It just feels like it.
    You might ask what the government thinks people should actually die of.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    All eyes on Andy Street now...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    Is that it?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    Was there any demand from anyone, anywhere, to scrap A-levels?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,572
    "Conservatives for change" when they are in power is a hard sell on so many levels.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,126
    Some cabinet faces look to me like they're thinking....better start bringing forward my leadership campaign.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786

    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.
    3 in Maths? Maths, Further Maths, and?
    In my day (old codger), Pure Maths, Applied Maths, Higher Maths
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    That was worse than I thought.

    No rabbit at all.

    Diabolical. He's toast.
  • On topic - well, he hasn't.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    "Time for a change". Is that the right message for a sitting PM to promote?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,410
    Mortimer said:

    Some cabinet faces look to me like they're thinking....better start bringing forward my leadership campaign.

    Utterly awful.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,028
    I don’t think that’s done anything to their prospects at all
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,051

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Farooq said:

    Raising smoking age year on year is a very good policy. Well done Rishi.

    Sounds like something for a royal commission rather than a PM's intuition. I'm probably in favour but would like it discussed more thoroughly.
    What is in the pro column for smoking, apart from I suppose the tax revenue?
    Some people enjoy it?
    People enjoy doing many different illegal things.
    Smoking is not illegal, though.
    At least, not right now.
    76,000 people died from smoking related diseases in 2021.
    There were just under 10,000 deaths caused by alcohol in that same year. Where do you decide it is right to ban something and wrong to ban something else? What about eating meat? Or sugar? Should governments be banning these as well.

    This should not even be on the radar for any Government.

    Its the old joke.

    If you don't drink, don't smoke, go vegetarian, don't eat sweet things and abstain from sex you don't actually live any longer. It just feels like it.
    You might ask what the government thinks people should actually die of.
    Johnson was happy for people to die of COVID-19.

    Sunak is happy for people to die of air pollution or road traffic accidents.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419

    “Britain needs new ideas. That’s why today, Conference, I can announce I am stepping down with immediate effect. And welcoming to the role of Prime Minister a natural born leader, a mother - and a friend. That person is Liz Truss.”

    Sadly we're not that lucky.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,664

    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    I did 6 A levels. Admittedly 3 of those were Maths and one was a pub quiz.
    3 in Maths? Maths, Further Maths, and?
    It was a cheat.

    Pure Maths in one year, then Maths and Further Maths. Pure Maths was roughly half the Maths syllabus and half the Further Maths syllabus so there wasn't much more to learn.

    I'd have preferred to do statistics but that wasn't offered.
  • I've always been mildly receptive to Rishi and sympathetic to the hand he's been dealt but i have to say that was turgid stuff and the only real takeaway from it is we're now nailed on to have at least a decade if not a perpetuity of Starmer and his associates in charge.

    The Tories are offering nowt that is for sure.

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Mortimer said:

    Some cabinet faces look to me like they're thinking....better start bringing forward my leadership campaign.

    Post politics job applications, more like.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239

    I don’t think that’s done anything to their prospects at all

    That's generous. I suspect it's tanked them.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    Looks like it's a bit shyte!
  • Did he really end his speech with "We are it"?

    Daft bugger can't even read an autocue properly - I'm pretty certain he missed a couple of letters there.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    That was worse than I thought.

    No rabbit at all.

    Diabolical. He's toast.

    Toast but not Welsh Rabbit.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited October 2023
    Doing 5 rather than 3 subjects....those that claim the in-depth knowledge is currently not being taught aren't going to be happy if its spread out even more thinly in order to learn 5 subjects as standards (rather than just the really bright kids doing all the extras).
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,454
    Starmer better have some good stuff to say or i’m moving to Saudi or the British Virgin Islands.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,288

    I am surprised this hasn't made any headline,

    My understanding is that, after studying the Prime Minister’s dreadful polling numbers in recent months, Sunak’s close advisers called the exiled Cummings in from the cold. According to a source who works inside No. 10, the advice from Cummings was bracing: shifting the public’s perceptions of Sunak would be incredibly difficult. He made clear that only very big, very noisy moves would have any chance of persuading people that Sunak is an agent of change. No. 10 needed to pick some big public fights; the more blowback from former prime ministers and big business figures the better. Or, as one insider characterised Cummings’s advice: “Do mental stuff that proves you’re not the Establishment.”

    https://unherd.com/2023/10/the-brutal-death-of-manchester-toryism/

    Wow. You know, I never linked it to Cummings, but this era does have his sort of feel. The meat ban - not likely to happen but got people talking about banning meat. The 7 bins. He's pulling together the 2018 coalition too.

    He's right that Sunak is shit at selling it though.
    Someone posted the link overnight.

    Cummings's hand makes sense of the last 2 months in a way I think we've struggled to do.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    RobD said:

    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    viewcode said:

    @OGH, I love you to bits, but if you aren't the editor of the article you shouldn't be credited as the author in the heading. Ever since the site was refreshed from the old green "winning here" version, non-PB authors (other than Cyclefree) have been credited wrongly in the heading.

    The author is listed at the bottom, as it always is when it is a guest contribution.
    It's the accreditation at the top I was referring to. For example the following links exist In the older site individual authors had individual entries, but that's stopped. So the following links no longer exist If the site cannot create an entry for all the contributors, then there should be an "other", thus But there isn't. So at the moment Kieran Pedley's articles are accredited to mike-smithson. Hence my point.
    ...but there is an https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/author/editor/
    His name is at the bottom of the post, where the name of every contributor is usually given.
    You are repeating your post of 12:03, to which I replied in my post of 12:18 and modified a few moments later

    That point has developed into the fact that Kieran Pedley's article should have been filed under https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/author/editor/ instead of https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/author/mike-smithson/ . Your statement about the bottom of the post is irrelevant to this.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    Dear Sir Graham...
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,986
    Nigelb said:

    Is that it?

    You want more ?
    I was relieved. There's only a year until the election. I'd rather he continues doing bugger all for 12 months allowing for a fresh start under a new government, than he decides to break a load of shit because Cummings tells him it's his only chance.

    If they just stick to policy managerialism while pumping out nothing more than irritating rhetoric on the culture war front then that's OK by me.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    "something quite charmless about being very pro-car, very pro-meat and very anti-smoking, deeply American, inelegant"

    https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/1709534538274152771
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,986
    Pro_Rata said:

    I am surprised this hasn't made any headline,

    My understanding is that, after studying the Prime Minister’s dreadful polling numbers in recent months, Sunak’s close advisers called the exiled Cummings in from the cold. According to a source who works inside No. 10, the advice from Cummings was bracing: shifting the public’s perceptions of Sunak would be incredibly difficult. He made clear that only very big, very noisy moves would have any chance of persuading people that Sunak is an agent of change. No. 10 needed to pick some big public fights; the more blowback from former prime ministers and big business figures the better. Or, as one insider characterised Cummings’s advice: “Do mental stuff that proves you’re not the Establishment.”

    https://unherd.com/2023/10/the-brutal-death-of-manchester-toryism/

    Wow. You know, I never linked it to Cummings, but this era does have his sort of feel. The meat ban - not likely to happen but got people talking about banning meat. The 7 bins. He's pulling together the 2018 coalition too.

    He's right that Sunak is shit at selling it though.
    Someone posted the link overnight.

    Cummings's hand makes sense of the last 2 months in a way I think we've struggled to do.
    Indeed, the last few weeks have felt very Cummings.
  • The HS2 trade off was insulting really. Shipley Relief Road, did he really say that as something we gain instead?

    The other stuff was i suspect already in the pipeline and the only hope i suppose is some of it happens sooner without HS2 2a and 2b to be funded. But i am sceptical.

    Still, what will Labour do now re HS2. One imagines nothing but blame Tory mismanagement but it not happening.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    Did he really end his speech with "We are it"?

    Daft bugger can't even read an autocue properly - I'm pretty certain he missed a couple of letters there.

    Reminds me of the best from Graham Rawle's "Lost Consonants"
    "Andrew Lloyd-webber writing another hit musical"
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,625
    https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2023/0915/1405522-eu-budget/

    The Irish Government is strongly resisting a European Commission bid to seek a slice of Ireland's corporate sector profits as a way to replenish the European Union budget, RTÉ News has learned.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419
    Pro_Rata said:

    I am surprised this hasn't made any headline,

    My understanding is that, after studying the Prime Minister’s dreadful polling numbers in recent months, Sunak’s close advisers called the exiled Cummings in from the cold. According to a source who works inside No. 10, the advice from Cummings was bracing: shifting the public’s perceptions of Sunak would be incredibly difficult. He made clear that only very big, very noisy moves would have any chance of persuading people that Sunak is an agent of change. No. 10 needed to pick some big public fights; the more blowback from former prime ministers and big business figures the better. Or, as one insider characterised Cummings’s advice: “Do mental stuff that proves you’re not the Establishment.”

    https://unherd.com/2023/10/the-brutal-death-of-manchester-toryism/

    Wow. You know, I never linked it to Cummings, but this era does have his sort of feel. The meat ban - not likely to happen but got people talking about banning meat. The 7 bins. He's pulling together the 2018 coalition too.

    He's right that Sunak is shit at selling it though.
    Someone posted the link overnight.

    Cummings's hand makes sense of the last 2 months in a way I think we've struggled to do.
    Everyone thought it was Isaac Levido, but it's Dom. Funny. But I feel like Sunak is too shit for even Cummings to save him. I think he's doing his own riffs. This smoking ban and the A levels, that's Sunak poking through.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005
    Eabhal said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    "A reform plan for the NHS"

    Well, that always goes well and is proven to be a vote-winner.

    Smoking in young people. That's really THE ENTIRETY of the prevention plan for the NHS. Now?
    Nothing on child obesity, dementia, mental health, social care costs.
    No politician will go anywhere near social care costs again ever since it cost Theresa May an election.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    Did he mention freeports?

    I remember when they were the big Sunak thing.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075
    Cyclefree said:

    viewcode said:

    RobD said:

    viewcode said:

    @OGH, I love you to bits, but if you aren't the editor of the article you shouldn't be credited as the author in the heading. Ever since the site was refreshed from the old green "winning here" version, non-PB authors (other than Cyclefree) have been credited wrongly in the heading.

    The author is listed at the bottom, as it always is when it is a guest contribution.
    It's the accreditation at the top I was referring to. For example the following links exist In the older site individual authors had individual entries, but that's stopped. So the following links no longer exist If the site cannot create an entry for all the contributors, then there should be an "other", thus But there isn't. So at the moment Kieran Pedley's articles are accredited to mike-smithson. Hence my point.
    Blimey! I can now find all my articles in one handy place. Cool.
    [deleted]
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,126

    https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2023/0915/1405522-eu-budget/

    The Irish Government is strongly resisting a European Commission bid to seek a slice of Ireland's corporate sector profits as a way to replenish the European Union budget, RTÉ News has learned.

    Irexit impending? Wouldn't that be funny....
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,424

    Scrap HS2, scrap A-levels, borrow New Zealand's smoking law, build the Shipley Bypass.

    There have been... more compelling policy programmes than this?

    It would helped me if I’d done more Statistics. I can’t think of anything else ‘mathematical’ that would have been that useful. There’s enough in modern Physics, anyway. Glad I didn’t have to do that.
  • BobSykes said:

    The HS2 trade off was insulting really. Shipley Relief Road, did he really say that as something we gain instead?

    The other stuff was i suspect already in the pipeline and the only hope i suppose is some of it happens sooner without HS2 2a and 2b to be funded. But i am sceptical.

    Still, what will Labour do now re HS2. One imagines nothing but blame Tory mismanagement but it not happening.

    Not a lot they can do now.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005

    Starmer better have some good stuff to say or i’m moving to Saudi or the British Virgin Islands.

    He's just going to say he's not the Tories. That will probably be enough. Why say more?
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    HYUFD said:

    All students to study Maths and English to 18 in a new Advanced British Standard combining A levels and T levels, 5 subjects to be studied for A level.

    Teachers of key subjects to get tax free £30k bonus

    This is going back to matriculation which was abolished in 1951. Once students have reached the standard they can reach in any subject it is pointless to force them to study it further. They should be able to choose what they want to study, presumably in things they do well and enjoy.

    What is the point in teaching a brilliant mathematician War and Peace if s/he hates it and isn't any good at it?

    What is the point of teaching a budding journalist or novelist about imaginary numbers which they will never come into contact with in real life and just can't grasp or understand.
  • AlistairMAlistairM Posts: 2,005

    https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2023/0915/1405522-eu-budget/

    The Irish Government is strongly resisting a European Commission bid to seek a slice of Ireland's corporate sector profits as a way to replenish the European Union budget, RTÉ News has learned.

    Ireland now learning what it is like to be a richer nation in the EU that is not France or Germany.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited October 2023
    How much of what has been announced today will actually come to pass.

    I predict very little. NZ smoking policy perhaps. Things like scraping A-Levels take years of planning, teaching unions definitely not going to be onboard with it, so no chance Starmer would do it.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,075

    "something quite charmless about being very pro-car, very pro-meat and very anti-smoking, deeply American, inelegant"

    https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/1709534538274152771

    I thought I was her only fan. Well done, you.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    Mortimer said:

    Some cabinet faces look to me like they're thinking....better start bringing forward my leadership campaign.

    No, none of them have any interest in taking over now, they will leave Sunak and Hunt to take the party to defeat then hope to take over in opposition when a Labour government would have to deal with the economy.

    Though Sunak's speech was a bit dull in terms of competent managerialism and broader infrastructure investment and more wide ranging skills for school leavers it was OK.

    And an extension of whole life terms to sadistic and sexual murderers and cutting down on smoking
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Meanwhile.

    Ukraine launches a new train route from Lviv to Warsaw. The new route continues a previous trend of opening more train routes from Ukraine to EU countries, especially Poland. However, different railroad width slows down the process.
    https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1709540581641241033
  • Oh God, Advanced British Standard. Maths to 18.

    Make it stop.

    A BS proposal if ever I heard one.

    How much of this has a hope in hell of actually happening?

    (Remember, poppickers, T Levels still aren't bedded in.)
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,986

    The white heat of the Shipley relief road is going to power Britain into the third millennium!

    You know what this kind of project means? Cones. Lots of them.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    viewcode said:

    "something quite charmless about being very pro-car, very pro-meat and very anti-smoking, deeply American, inelegant"

    https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/1709534538274152771

    I thought I was her only fan. Well done, you.
    I often look at her tweets. Quite amusing at times.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    ...

    Did he mention freeports?

    I remember when they were the big Sunak thing.

    Yes
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,664

    Doing 5 rather than 3 subjects....those that claim the in-depth knowledge is currently not being taught aren't going to be happy if its spread out even more thinly in order to learn 5 subjects as standards (rather than just the really bright kids doing all the extras).

    There are too many 4 year degrees as it is.
  • Lozza Fox arrested on suspicion of ULEZ damage.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    HYUFD said:

    Mortimer said:

    Some cabinet faces look to me like they're thinking....better start bringing forward my leadership campaign.

    No, none of them have any interest in taking over now, they will leave Sunak and Hunt to take the party to defeat then hope to take over in opposition when a Labour government would have to deal with the economy.

    Though Sunak's speech was a bit dull in terms of competent managerialism and broader infrastructure investment and more wide ranging skills for school leavers it was OK.

    And an extension of whole life terms to sadistic and sexual murderers and cutting down on smoking
    That is a very good summary. Sadly.
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,206
    edited October 2023

    £2 bus fare being kept: instinctually that seems a good idea, but I wonder how it has affected ridership...

    That's a huge con / negative in lots of places...as its £2 max per journey / for a single, all that has happened is returns / day tickets have gone up significantly. And of course most people need a return, as they need to get back from where they were going.

    If you really want to help out / incentivise bus travel, you need to be capping the returns / day tickets as well.
    Surely it's effectively capping returns at £4, i.e. two singles.
    I'm afraid I don't use bus travel enough to know if this is cheaper than most return journeys before the policy was implemented or not.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,647

    Lozza Fox arrested on suspicion of ULEZ damage.

    Someone had been doing the same to the bus lane cameras in Edinburgh.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,786
    edited October 2023

    Lozza Fox arrested on suspicion of ULEZ damage.

    Pillock. Fox, not @TheScreamingEagles. I think he is going off his trolley big time. (Again Fox not @TheScreamingEagles )
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,586

    Lozza Fox arrested on suspicion of ULEZ damage.

    Inciting, or actually doing?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Which major engineering firm or project consultancy is going to want to get involved in all these new rail projects knowing now that this government has demonstrated it is a total unreliable and mercurial client.

    They'll find somewhere else in the world to build.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited October 2023
    theProle said:

    £2 bus fare being kept: instinctually that seems a good idea, but I wonder how it has affected ridership...

    That's a huge con / negative in lots of places...as its £2 max per journey / for a single, all that has happened is returns / day tickets have gone up significantly. And of course most people need a return, as they need to get back from where they were going.

    If you really want to help out / incentivise bus travel, you need to be capping the returns / day tickets as well.
    Surely it's effectively capping returns at £4, i.e. two singles.
    I'm afraid I don't use bus travel enough to know if this is cheaper than most return journeys before the policy was implemented or not.
    In my local area at least, its not. Return / day ticket prices are significantly more expensive since the £2 cap came in and the bus company were open about why.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Thoughts and prayers to Andy Street.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,991
    edited October 2023

    Lozza Fox arrested on suspicion of ULEZ damage.

    What's the betting he has filmed himself openly doing it for the clicks.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Haley surpasses DeSantis in New Hampshire poll
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/04/new-hampshire-nikki-haley-desantis-00119864

    19% / 10%
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