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The front pages after the Tory election drubbing – politicalbetting.com
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Well done the FT and The Guardian for giving reasonable prominance to the elections.
Also, 84 page magazine in the Telegraph!
Oh, and there's a wedding too, header?
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/19/who-is-king-charles-iiis-private-bodyguard-17403705/
I'm just not sure a guy with a personal army releasing daily videos calling the defence minister a bitch is a sustainable situation for a totalitarian fascist state.
https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1654500442863181831?cxt=HHwWjoCxmeHY-_UtAAAA
There can be many explanations for Prigozhin's erratic behaviour and statements, but one thing that appears quite clear to me is that he is still Putin's* close associate, so most things he's doing must be sanctioned by the latter. I just don't think he's off the leash, even if his actions might suggest otherwise.
*accused of war crimes
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1654510622376185858?cxt=HHwWhMC-vaSpgPYtAAAA
Lib Dem Chris Twells’ shock win in Cotswolds prompts calls to close loophole in electoral law"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/05/salford-councillor-urged-to-quit-after-winning-second-seat-160-miles-away
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1654479297128562691?cxt=HHwWhoCwmfWJ8vUtAAAA
One eye on the future, lads.
He told the Wilts and Gloucestershire Standard: “I will be taking some time off over the weekend and speaking to the chief executive of Salford city council after the bank holiday weekend to establish what action I need to take to resign as a councillor, to allow for a byelection to be held in my ward.
Easy - you send an email to the Chief Executive saying 'I resign'.
I'm not entirely sure what 'loophole' is being urged to be closed though. Not allowing someone to stand if they are a councillor elsewhere? He apparently met eligibility criteria otherwise.
It would be unusual but someone could be on two different councils, maybe they split their time between two places, though in his case being so far apart would not help (interestingly we have had married MPs representing seats in Scotland and Wiltshire respectively, so though representing only one seat themselves presumably split their time somewhat). Given the average time reported to be spent on council work if someone made it their full time job being on two councils would amount to about a full week's work.
THAT's the loophole. Seeing as how they are intended to serve local - not national - interest.
Nothing was said at the time.
Of course, there are stories of people moving away after election and not resigning their seats as well, and I think that would render them eligible due to having 'worked' in the area as a councillor even if they no longer resided there.
Parishes you have to live within a parish or within three miles of it I believe. Which given the shape of some parishes can make people eligible to be on quite a few.
I suspect it's a case where MPs won't want to tighten rules too much, lest it blow back on their own potential to carpetbag.
Congrats! Having a supportive boss is golden.
Mine just ignores me…
So what? He is NOT a resident, lives a ways away. Elected government officials, should be required to be local residents and voters. And nobody ought to be allowed to be legally able to vote in TWO different places.
That's what I am arguing. Of course I do NOT have any vote anywhere in UK.
Unless I get paperwork approved re: approved ID for an unnamed location in an undisclosed marginal!
ADDENDUM - reckon you are correct re: parliament NOT taking up this particular question, in order NOT to highlight issue of carpetbaggery by MPs, long part of the unwritten British constitution.
For example in my area like many there might be villages or towns right on a border of a county. Someone might live just on the wrong side despite the actual community going across it, even the urban area itself. Yet they work and own property there so they currently can stand. Is that unreasonable? What if it were five miles? Ten?
And also that being able to be a candidate despite not living in the area is clearly not a loophole, the broad eligibility is front and centre, this is just a bizarre example. So changing it would not be closing a loophole, it would be just tightening things up.
I'm not opposed to requiring someone be resident per se. But communities dont align exactly with administrative boundaries, despite best efforts, so it's worth investigating not just flipping out as one guy is from very far away.
Wishing my mom was still around and sending WhatsApp msgs - not that I'd know how to receive 'em!
He remarried 18 years ago
Give the guy a break
Con 15,747 [33.1%]
LD 15,602 [32.8%]
Lab 11,568 [24.3%]
Green 3,795 [8.0%]
Heritage 887 [1.9%]
The Tories almost certainly wouldn't have won under the old preference system.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2023/england/councils/E06000055#mayor-scoreboard
I will do my ancient duty with an engorged heart and deep, deep sense of duty.
But Christ almighty those front pages. What a load of obsequious sh1te.
Am not questioning the double-dipper's legal eligibility, rather the law that make him eligible where he does not have legal domicle.
I would say I am a very soft monarchist, largely because I don’t think the alternatives are any better, but I am looking forward to watching the event later for its place in history and the continuity it represents. I won’t be swearing any oath or anything of that nature (a misstep, albeit wilfully misinterpreted by the press) but there is something special about the crowning of our monarch, a moment etched in time.
And like my Daddy Dearest used to say, if you can't respect the man - respect the office.
"Luke Myer
@luke_myer
Longbeck’s recount will take place Tuesday & we should have a result then. The returning officer has confirmed that 1st place is clear, but 2nd & 3rd are close."
https://twitter.com/luke_myer/status/1654555335162568706
One day she was working at her tub, when she went to deal with one of His Majesty's shirts, and found a note with the following pinned to the collar - "More starch here."
In reply, she sent the freshly-laundered garment back, with a note of her own pinned to the tail - "Less shit here".
She emigrated to America soon afterwards.
https://www.farnhamherald.com/news/politics/local-elections-2023-tories-suffer-heavy-losses-as-lib-dems-increase-grip-on-waverley-borough-council-612365?fbclid=IwAR1izPpnA8eJlwSoL8vgACtG9s7UesAy-M0gZhCReFT-8rtwc2SaffK1yC4
Generally the Greens had a strange night, with the amazing gains in Hertfordshire and Suffolk but lossese elsewhere, notably Brighton and Hove to Labour; in my patch they are down to a single councillor despite several close races.
Quite a few people want to vote for the person, not the party, while others (there's lots of overlap) wish to demonstrate their independence of party (to themselves) by splitting their tickets if possible.
For example, in Seattle quite common to find voters who always vote voted Democratic EXCEPT they'd vote for Republican Kim Wyman for Secretary of State. Because she appeared to be focusing on her job of administering (really monitoring) elections across the state, and was the most-respectable, least-crazy GOP option on the ballot.
I have sent you a proposed article for the Coronation, anonymous as usual. It is a bit free-form and "off the cuff" but should be easy to publish. I hope that you look kindly upon it.
If Team Smithson decline to publish as is their right, then anybody who wants a copy please let me know and I'll open a backstage discussion with a copy. It is a bit like an old-school sermon and may actually be very very silly, but I thought I'd have a go.
Global cases and death rates are a fraction of what they were at the height of the pandemic
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/covid-world-health-organisation-downgrades-pandemic-b1079178.html
Boris Johnson backers hit back at claims partygate led to Conservative local election drubbing
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/05/05/boris-blame-game-triggers-backlash-over-sunak-election/ (£££)
It is not clear whether the Telegraph's headline-writer bothered to read the story which is more balanced and includes: Huw Merriman, a transport minister, said constituents were complaining to him about “older news about former prime ministers”.
The German goalkeeper moved to Craven Cottage for an initial £3m last summer but the deal included performance-related add-ons, including a survival fee.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-transfer-news-leno-clause-fee-b1079005.html
We were discussing the other day whether the government could include similar contingency fees in contracts.
"Cracks in Conservative unity already began on Friday with Rehman Chishti, a former leadership contender, criticising Suella Braverman’s rhetoric on immigration.
“The comments that we had from the home secretary, the rhetoric that she applies to certain faiths and diverse communities, is damaging to our communities and also it damages the community relations. It feeds into the far right,” he told Sky News."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/05/rishi-sunak-under-pressure-dire-tory-losses-leadership-threats
I can't find the next-Cabinet-Minister-out odds but if I could, I'd be looking at Gillian Keegan. She seems so far out of her depth I'm tempted to call the RNLI.
Public service is to be admired however performed in any party.
It was only the prospect of crowing Lefties, which I knew I wouldn't be able to bear well if I hadn't voted, that got me out there and the fact that my existing Councillor is quite good.
That has nothing to do with the leadership. Boris would be even worse and even shitter in delivery. Essentially, Sunak has to give something to vote for and steady administration (whilst essential) isn't on its own going to be enough.
I get that they’re models - and actually the seat count for the LDs might be closer than the share prediction - but they just feel oddly dissonant to me. So many places - there are notable exceptions, but by far the rule - have seen the Tories get utterly smashed, and crucially the SNP are doing their level best to become as unappealing as possible.
In a GE though I think the LD and Green votes will be down by half, with Labour getting most of the benefit, Labour being unobjectional if uninspiring.
The LDs did very well, but beyond a bit of residual pro EU vibes I have absolutely no idea what they stand for. There is nothing there beyond being anti Tory.
Labour have been rowing back from the Corbyn years, but are yet to galvanise their new vision. Nevertheless they have won convincingly.
The Tories seem stuck between waging a vicious culture war and the last vestiges compassionate conservatism, whilst trying to gather some remnants of competence from the ashes of Truss/Johnson. Total failure.
Even the Greens seem halfway between the radical far left and cosy middle class feel good environmentalism.
Lab + 536
LibDem + 405
Green +241
Ind/RA - 104
It’s rather striking that no matter what their talents or indeed successes in other areas no minister since the 1940s has really been a success at education.
That’s not a problem of personnel, it’s a problem with the structure.
Completely pointlessfun fact for today:Of the seven coronations since 1760, one (1911) was held under a Liberal government, and two (1831 and 1838) under the Whigs. Every other one has been held under a Tory government of some form.
F1: surprised how fast the Mercedes were in practice yesterday. Especially given the short turn around from one race weekend to the next. We'll see if it lasts.
Qualifying's at 9pm and the race 8.30pm, I think, so no coronation clash.
The big towns swung to Labour, a few miles away the more rural bit swung heavily to the Lib Dems. Just a few miles apart you see very different patterns.
The folk memory of who is the challenger seems to be decisive, but that is such an ephemeral thing.
Either way it seems centrism, social democracy and liberalism are firmly back in fashion after an age of extremes. The Tories need to remember their more moderate wing.
They've totally failed to get a grip on the Boats. It's possible that it's impossible - and they've calculated crowing about Rwanda incessantly will lose them less votes than admitting it - but I think the Albanian problem has largely gone away to be replaced by Indians (WTF?) so to the extent it can be solved maybe it's really a game of bilateral whack-a-mole.
I suspect competence, exasperation and time for a change was a bigger factor than political ideology in almost all cases.
We had a brief period when Labour flirted with the hard left under Corbyn now ended under the more moderate Starmer and under Boris and Truss the Tories moved to the more populist right post Brexit but even Boris got SDP support to be Oxford Union President and Truss was once a LD and Rishi is on the more moderate wing of the Tories
These tories are utter shits and need a long, long, time in the wilderness.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65484552
Omnisis which correctly called the local election Labour lead of 9%, has the national vote lead at 21%.
If you think the LibDems will poll 20% in the next GE, or that Labour will gain no seats in Scotland, then continue to believe.
Although I'm a newbie in Teignbridge it took me 5 seconds to work out that my Labour leanings wouldn't defeat the tories so I voted for 3 LibDems.
I will vote Labour at the GE because my Newton Abbot constituency is more Con-Lab marginal.
@Sean_F claimed yesterday that more LibDem voters will vote tory at the next GE than Labour. Of all the most fantastical posts on pb.com, that leads the way. Almost none of us who voted LibDem on Thursday will be placing our cross in a tory box thanks!
I don't know why people get so het up about animal testing. If I was a rabbit, I'd quite like an the free fags and make up.
Betting PostF1: decided to tip Perez to 'win' qualifying, each way at 9.5.
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2023/05/miami-pre-qualifying-2023.html
He was half a second off Verstappen and off both Ferraris in second rpactice but also had to abort a fast lap, and last year was within half a tenth of Verstappen.
Obviously this follows my early 6.5 bet of the same nature. So I just added a little rather than a full stake.
People like me who are naturally Labour voted LibDem at local level because they had more chance of winning, which they did. It really, really, isn't rocket science.
Even if you don't believe this, the other way of looking at it is the Cons vote share. Apart from the occasional scrape to 30%, they are polling in the high 20's (the last 3 national polls have been 29, 29, 27). That's the same as the locals which was 29% on the NEV.
https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar
The fact is that the most efficient way to defeat Conservatives is for all the "anti tories" to just vote Labour!
Since that movement dominated the outcome, I find it interesting to pause and reflect on how it works. The savvy political movement might try to influence it. A Tory might somehow promote ideas that muddy the waters.