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  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,243
    If it's eggs in York, I shudder to think what they'll be throwing in Doncaster later :open_mouth:
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 4,861

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    If they'd thrown them at the Queen, they would probably have been strung up.

    Changing times...
    But there was something similar with the Queen in 1981. Marcus Sarjeant fired a gun with blanks 6 times at the Trooping of the Colour.

    He was found guilty of Treason. He wasn't "strung up".

  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    This Starmer attack feels very wimp on wimp. He is losing this.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955

    Dura_Ace said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Did they hit the target? 🙏
    Narrow miss
    State of Yorkshire cricket.....
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    eristdoof said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    If they'd thrown them at the Queen, they would probably have been strung up.

    Changing times...
    But there was something similar with the Queen in 1981. Marcus Sarjeant fired a gun with blanks 6 times at the Trooping of the Colour.

    He was found guilty of Treason. He wasn't "strung up".

    He was sentenced to 5 years in prison under the Treason Act
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Supporting the protestors gotta hurt after SKS string 'em up rhetoric yesterday. Gonna be a call for retraction.

    RS walked that 6-0.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955

    darkage said:

    From an onlookers point of view it is suprising that Biden and Kamala Harris are at such long odds. Surely they should have an entrenched incumbency advantage?

    I was in Helsinki yesterday taking their temperature.

    They told me that Kamala means “awful” or “horrible” in Finnish.

    The problem is that, being Finns, I don’t know whether they were just pulling my leg… no visual cues given their dry sense of humour
    Google translate from Finnish gives it as "horrible".....
  • Vanilla is down.

    Sunak threw in "he supported Corbyn" at the end, with various members of the Labour front bench grinning and gesticulating towards the door saying "he's gone".

    Not sure that "whatabout Corbyn" works when he is trying to deflect away from his defence of the bully Williamson and the security nightmare Braverman who he invited into his cabinet just weeks ago.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,395
    In 2020, according to a chart in yesterday's NYT, 42 of our 50 states were called on election night. The exceptions were Alaska, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. (Two of those, Wisconsin and Michigan, were called the next day.)

    Given the different rules in the states and the attempts to disrupt the counting, that seems like a reasonable performance to me.

    I haven't seen a comparable count for this year's election, but I think it will be similar. (Since there was no presidential race, you would want to use the top race in each state to make such a count.)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    DJ41 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You are completely bonkers, HYUFD.

    Common assault can't be "attempted" because it's not indictable. (Admittedly there is a possible way to get it put on an indictment using s40 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988, but even so I don't think that allows it to be "attempted".)

    For some reason you made me think of this hilarious sketch by Peter Cook:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyos-M48B8U

    If this comes to court at all, the defendant will probably be given a small fine or else the Soviet route will be taken and he'll be locked up as a psychiatric case according to his majesty's pleasure.
    Even fear of violence alone is enough to be classed as assault, so clearly an assault charge is here
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    What happened to adulterers in previous centuries?
    Nothing if they were senior enough.
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    eristdoof said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    If they'd thrown them at the Queen, they would probably have been strung up.

    Changing times...
    But there was something similar with the Queen in 1981. Marcus Sarjeant fired a gun with blanks 6 times at the Trooping of the Colour.

    He was found guilty of Treason. He wasn't "strung up".
    He wasn't "found" guilty. He held his hands up. Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word "trial". You only get tried if you plead not guilty - or if such a plea is entered on your behalf.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,557

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    What happened to adulterers in previous centuries?
    Much the same as now, if they were royals.

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,757
    edited November 2022
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    What happened to adulterers in previous centuries?
    Nothing if they were senior enough.
    People were occasionally executed for adultery under the Commonwealth, but that was a very brief period.

    Buggery, bigamy, and bestiality were however, capital offences up till 1861.
  • Dura_Ace said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    It's going to be hilarious when some fucking arsehole does a York/Yolk pun.
    Total shambles
  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Posts: 1,151
    edited November 2022
    Ishmael_Z said:

    Supporting the protestors gotta hurt after SKS string 'em up rhetoric yesterday. Gonna be a call for retraction.

    RS walked that 6-0.

    Hodgearamus disagrees...

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    7m
    Another comprehensive win for Keir Starmer.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 4,522
    edited November 2022

    In 2020, according to a chart in yesterday's NYT, 42 of our 50 states were called on election night. The exceptions were Alaska, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. (Two of those, Wisconsin and Michigan, were called the next day.)

    Given the different rules in the states and the attempts to disrupt the counting, that seems like a reasonable performance to me.

    I haven't seen a comparable count for this year's election, but I think it will be similar. (Since there was no presidential race, you would want to use the top race in each state to make such a count.)

    In a sensible electoral system, of course, the correct number would be 50 - and that would be declared, not "called".
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392
    Sean_F said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    What happened to adulterers in previous centuries?
    Nothing if they were senior enough.
    People were occasionally executed for adultery under the Commonwealth, but that was a very brief period.

    Buggery, bigamy, and bestiality were however, capital offences up till 1861.
    As Meatloaf sang, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 61,557
    If the states put a 5% tax on all advertising in November, they could finance an efficient ballot counting process.
  • DJ41 said:

    eristdoof said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    If they'd thrown them at the Queen, they would probably have been strung up.

    Changing times...
    But there was something similar with the Queen in 1981. Marcus Sarjeant fired a gun with blanks 6 times at the Trooping of the Colour.

    He was found guilty of Treason. He wasn't "strung up".
    He wasn't "found" guilty. He held his hands up. Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word "trial". You only get tried if you plead not guilty - or if such a plea is entered on your behalf.
    Not correct. Sarjeant was tried. He pled guilty late.

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/09/14/An-unemployed-teenager-pleaded-guilty-today-to-firing-a/5430369288000/
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,116
    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    Not sufficient. Even if you don't like the rule of law, most of us do.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 10,456
    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,116

    DJ41 said:

    eristdoof said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    If they'd thrown them at the Queen, they would probably have been strung up.

    Changing times...
    But there was something similar with the Queen in 1981. Marcus Sarjeant fired a gun with blanks 6 times at the Trooping of the Colour.

    He was found guilty of Treason. He wasn't "strung up".
    He wasn't "found" guilty. He held his hands up. Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word "trial". You only get tried if you plead not guilty - or if such a plea is entered on your behalf.
    Not correct. Sarjeant was tried. He pled guilty late.

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/09/14/An-unemployed-teenager-pleaded-guilty-today-to-firing-a/5430369288000/
    Could he be said to be tried if the trial was aborted because he pleaded guilty?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    What happened to adulterers in previous centuries?
    They created the Church of England
    Bravo.

    Weird thing is compared to plenty of monarchs Henry VIII might well count as restrained.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,116
    edited November 2022
    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Quite, and there are at least two other obvious routes for being let off, [edit] in principle, without prejudging like HYUFD does whether thei are applicable in this case.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 4,861
    DJ41 said:

    eristdoof said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    If they'd thrown them at the Queen, they would probably have been strung up.

    Changing times...
    But there was something similar with the Queen in 1981. Marcus Sarjeant fired a gun with blanks 6 times at the Trooping of the Colour.

    He was found guilty of Treason. He wasn't "strung up".
    He wasn't "found" guilty. He held his hands up. Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word "trial". You only get tried if you plead not guilty - or if such a plea is entered on your behalf.
    OK he pleaded guilty for treason. His conviction still counts as treason, whether there was a trial or not.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,956
    edited November 2022
    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    Was. He now fornicates within wedlock, so far as we know, which is encouraged.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?
  • kjhkjh Posts: 10,456

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    @HYUFD has just got in his tank and making his way up north to sort you out.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 14,772
    edited November 2022
    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    That would be because they don't like ordinary Americans.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    Are you sure you aren't?

    There's that nisi to absolute gap which some of us find needs filling...
  • WillGWillG Posts: 1,993
    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    Are they that out of touch? The country voted for them about 50-50 sadly.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,757
    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    They aren't. About 50% voted for them.

    These people are not outliers.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 4,530
    Where as in Florida where the state Supreme Court gave a free pass to a deeply unfair congressional map the NY court decided to be a martyr and play fair . Trying go do the right thing when it comes to the GOP only ends in defeat so sadly the lesson is one of just be as bad .
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    I think there is a minimum 60k Clark votes still to be counted. There is the potential for there being more Washoe mail to count than expected as well.

    60-70k Clark would be right at the 50/50 mark for the Senate.

    I think Ralston's intuition that there are 100k is definitely credible and if true then the Dems have Nevada.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Sean_F said:

    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    They aren't. About 50% voted for them.

    These people are not outliers.
    But are they real Americans?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,757

    Ishmael_Z said:

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    Are you sure you aren't?

    There's that nisi to absolute gap which some of us find needs filling...
    Oh I know I'm a serial adulterer and fornicator but I'm not saying I'm God's representative on Earth and then breaking God's commandments.

    Edit - Just to clarify, I've been named co-respondent in two divorce proceedings.

    You haven't lived until your mother opens up one of those letters.
    To the pure, all things are pure.

    If you're God's representative on Earth, everything is allowed you.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,757
    Alistair said:

    Sean_F said:

    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    They aren't. About 50% voted for them.

    These people are not outliers.
    But are they real Americans?
    A lot of real Americans believe in Jewish space lasers and weather manipulation by the Deep State.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 7,243
    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    Lots of street performers in York, particularly around that area. Could have been a novelty juggling act that went wrong. :wink:
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,614
    Sean_F said:

    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    They aren't. About 50% voted for them.

    These people are not outliers.
    The problem is that theres a very loud 10% or so on each extreme, and a big 80% in the middle, most of whom vote for what they consider the lesser of two evils.
  • Selebian said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    Lots of street performers in York, particularly around that area. Could have been a novelty juggling act that went wrong. :wink:
    Sounds like The Shambles.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955
    kle4 said:

    Sean_F said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    What happened to adulterers in previous centuries?
    Nothing if they were senior enough.
    People were occasionally executed for adultery under the Commonwealth, but that was a very brief period.

    Buggery, bigamy, and bestiality were however, capital offences up till 1861.
    As Meatloaf sang, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
    You should try bigamy....
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,395
    If you like names, here's a pair for you: In Washington's 45th district, the race for state senate was between Manka Dhingra (D) and Ryika Hooshangi (R). (The Seattle Times made Hooshangi one of their token Republican endorsements.)

    Sadly, Hooshangi lost.

    (She has an impressive resume: https://www.ryika.com/ Especially for a girl from a little hick town like Redmond. )
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,704
    edited November 2022
    What is going on with SKS's nose?

    It is getting bigger and redder by the week, it looks like a ripe strawberry. I have taken to watching #pmqs on HD so I can closely monitor the situation

    Presumably due to either the excessive amount of alcohol or lies

    #iamnotobsessedhonest
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,757
    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    They aren't. About 50% voted for them.

    These people are not outliers.
    The problem is that theres a very loud 10% or so on each extreme, and a big 80% in the middle, most of whom vote for what they consider the lesser of two evils.
    One American friend (a Democrat) who lives in Alabama, says he feels like Charlton Heston in The Omega Man, surrounded by the mutants.

    He does say though, that quite a few Republican voters get a kick out of trolling their opponents. They know that people like Roy Moore and MTG are batshit, but find it amusing to vote for them,
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 2,179
    Ishmael_Z said:

    darkage said:

    From an onlookers point of view it is suprising that Biden and Kamala Harris are at such long odds. Surely they should have an entrenched incumbency advantage?

    I was in Helsinki yesterday taking their temperature.

    They told me that Kamala means “awful” or “horrible” in Finnish.

    The problem is that, being Finns, I don’t know whether they were just pulling my leg… no visual cues given their dry sense of humour
    google translate agrees
    same in Estonian, while kamela is... a Camel.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 91,392
    I feel like if he's going for it DeSantis should declare soon, before Trump officially does. Don't even give a chance for Trump to set the first arguments. Unsettle him.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Twitter universally giving PMQs to Starmer. I still think Starmer underwhelmed given the strength of his hand on GW. Vibe was the second nerdiest boy in the playground trying to beat up the nerdiest.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955
    Sandpit said:

    Sean_F said:

    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    They aren't. About 50% voted for them.

    These people are not outliers.
    The problem is that theres a very loud 10% or so on each extreme, and a big 80% in the middle, most of whom vote for what they consider the lesser of two evils.
    Courtesy of social media, we tend to get the impression that 50% of Americans agree with something that triggers the other 50% to lose their shit.

    The 80% really need to make their presence felt and tell the 20% to STFU. Maybe yesterday was a start in that direction.
  • Carnyx said:

    DJ41 said:

    eristdoof said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    If they'd thrown them at the Queen, they would probably have been strung up.

    Changing times...
    But there was something similar with the Queen in 1981. Marcus Sarjeant fired a gun with blanks 6 times at the Trooping of the Colour.

    He was found guilty of Treason. He wasn't "strung up".
    He wasn't "found" guilty. He held his hands up. Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word "trial". You only get tried if you plead not guilty - or if such a plea is entered on your behalf.
    Not correct. Sarjeant was tried. He pled guilty late.

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/09/14/An-unemployed-teenager-pleaded-guilty-today-to-firing-a/5430369288000/
    Could he be said to be tried if the trial was aborted because he pleaded guilty?
    Up to you.

    Incidentally, I may be misunderstanding the 1981 position.

    There may have been a trial regardless of when a plea was entered. I was applying the modern system (as was DJ41) in assuming a trial would be avoided by a sufficiently early guilty plea.

    What I do know is that there was a trail, in which his guilty plea was accepted. You can argue the words but Wikipedia is correct to say there was a trial.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Supporting the protestors gotta hurt after SKS string 'em up rhetoric yesterday. Gonna be a call for retraction.

    RS walked that 6-0.

    Hodgearamus disagrees...

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    7m
    Another comprehensive win for Keir Starmer.
    The police seem to be making howlers on the protestors - stopping members of the public sorting the situation themselves and arresting journalists filming from public places.
    Their job is very simple. It's to arrest the protestors off the road, take them down the station and either release them without charge or charge with something that might stick based on the latest goings on in parliament and the courts.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 12,415
    Alistair said:

    Why are the GOP so out of touch with ordinary Americans?

    Ransacking Democracy and taking the country back to the age of Witch burning are just two reasons.

    The third is 2016 Trump was fresh, unknown, now he’s tired, old hat and dragging baggage.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955

    What is going on with SKS's nose?

    It is getting bigger and redder by the week, it looks like a ripe strawberry. I have taken to watching #pmqs on HD so I can closely monitor the situation

    Presumably due to either the excessive amount of alcohol or lies

    #iamnotobsessedhonest

    ...or one of those annoying colds you just can't shift?
  • Sean_F said:

    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    What happened to adulterers in previous centuries?
    Nothing if they were senior enough.
    People were occasionally executed for adultery under the Commonwealth, but that was a very brief period.

    Buggery, bigamy, and bestiality were however, capital offences up till 1861.
    To some extent capital and corporal punishment was a substitute for having no police forces, few jails, and poor detection rates.

    It was believed that the only way to control crime & disorder was to make punishments so draconian it would deter offending in the first place.

    Enforcement was increasing rare in the early 19th Century - capital punishments were increasingly commuted to transportation or jury acquittals, and corporal punishments enforced less and less.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    edited November 2022

    Ishmael_Z said:

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    Are you sure you aren't?

    There's that nisi to absolute gap which some of us find needs filling...
    Oh I know I'm a serial adulterer and fornicator but I'm not saying I'm God's representative on Earth and then breaking God's commandments.

    Edit - Just to clarify, I've been named co-respondent in two divorce proceedings.

    You haven't lived until your mother opens up one of those letters.
    The Pope is God's representative on earth for Christians and has been since St Peter. Protestants just disagree with Papal infallibility. The King is only Supreme Governor of the Church of England, effectively chairman while the Archbishop of Canterbury is CEO
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,709
    Selebian said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    Lots of street performers in York, particularly around that area. Could have been a novelty juggling act that went wrong. :wink:
    Not shouting slogans about blame for slavery though
  • "Hey Donald Trump, meet Boris Johnson"
    1min 20sec in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-23XuiFhIks
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955

    Ishmael_Z said:

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    Are you sure you aren't?

    There's that nisi to absolute gap which some of us find needs filling...
    Oh I know I'm a serial adulterer and fornicator but I'm not saying I'm God's representative on Earth and then breaking God's commandments.

    Edit - Just to clarify, I've been named co-respondent in two divorce proceedings.

    You haven't lived until your mother opens up one of those letters.
    Does that fabled sub-continent maternal pride kick in?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,080
    edited November 2022
    Early afternoon all.

    A peculiar interview on Times Radio this morning, with General Lord Richards (ex Chief of Defence Staff 2010-2013 ish).

    Arguing for negotiations with Mr Putin, including a referendum on occupied territories. new border guarantees, and a Hong Kong type deal where Russia gets Crimea for X years, and allusions to Republican success in the US Elections, which seems a touch premature.

    No suggestions how a referendum works when the population has largely been driven out, or why a border deal would be respected given what happened to the last one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqic2brEiQ8&lc=Ugyt8vuKXSqROu6xfRN4AaABAg

    All very strange.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841
    Pulpstar said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Supporting the protestors gotta hurt after SKS string 'em up rhetoric yesterday. Gonna be a call for retraction.

    RS walked that 6-0.

    Hodgearamus disagrees...

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    7m
    Another comprehensive win for Keir Starmer.
    The police seem to be making howlers on the protestors - stopping members of the public sorting the situation themselves and arresting journalists filming from public places.
    Their job is very simple. It's to arrest the protestors off the road, take them down the station and either release them without charge or charge with something that might stick based on the latest goings on in parliament and the courts.
    If they feel they don't have anything they can always 'offer a caution'. That'll gum up the works for the oil lot when they need a DBS check.
  • Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    HYUFD said:

    Selebian said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    Lots of street performers in York, particularly around that area. Could have been a novelty juggling act that went wrong. :wink:
    Not shouting slogans about blame for slavery though
    Bit of a minefield, York, what with James II branding his slaves DoY, and the current groper's antics.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,116

    Completely off topic but following on from the discussion of Games Workshop a couple of nights ago, Ian Livingstone was knighted yesterday.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/11/08/sir-ian-livingstone-games-workshop-warhammer-co-founder-who/

    I had a schoolfriend once and we used to like making model planes and ships together. Talking (much!) more recently about his children, I inquired if modern children were too busy with computers and video games to bother with such old fashioned hand to eye coordination skills. To my surprise he positively praised Citadel/GW for encouraging children to take up skilful modelmaking and above all painting - he reckoned it had been good for his boys.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,956
    edited November 2022

    Does that fabled sub-continent maternal pride kick in?

    Sadly not.

    My mother was mostly concerned that it might be in the papers and cause a scandal. I mean I've pushed the boundaries of her social liberalism by not having an arranged and marrying an infidel but this was a step too far for her.

    She was also worried if adultery might appear on CRB/DBS checks because she knows I have to have a clean record for my job.

    Remember this is the woman who fainted with shock when she opened up my first ever speeding letter thinking it was a career ender for me and that my career was over at the age of 24.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 39,116
    Ishmael_Z said:

    HYUFD said:

    Selebian said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    Lots of street performers in York, particularly around that area. Could have been a novelty juggling act that went wrong. :wink:
    Not shouting slogans about blame for slavery though
    Bit of a minefield, York, what with James II branding his slaves DoY, and the current groper's antics.
    And bro Chas helping to kick-start it all (in the UK) with the Royal African Company or whatever it was called, so one can't fob it off on those dodgy Jacobites.
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,701
    Pulpstar said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    Supporting the protestors gotta hurt after SKS string 'em up rhetoric yesterday. Gonna be a call for retraction.

    RS walked that 6-0.

    Hodgearamus disagrees...

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    7m
    Another comprehensive win for Keir Starmer.
    The police seem to be making howlers on the protestors - stopping members of the public sorting the situation themselves and arresting journalists filming from public places.
    Their job is very simple. It's to arrest the protestors off the road, take them down the station and either release them without charge or charge with something that might stick based on the latest goings on in parliament and the courts.
    Maybe the Police will actually bother to do something more than just fetch them coffee and ask them to come down now one of their own has been injured ?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    kle4 said:

    I feel like if he's going for it DeSantis should declare soon, before Trump officially does. Don't even give a chance for Trump to set the first arguments. Unsettle him.

    Trunp was threatening De Santis yesterday, saying it would go badly for him, might get hurt if he runs.

    Which is a clear tell Trump is afraid of him.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 113,956
    edited November 2022
    Is there no food Scots cannot ruin?


  • TazTaz Posts: 10,701
    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    I feel like if he's going for it DeSantis should declare soon, before Trump officially does. Don't even give a chance for Trump to set the first arguments. Unsettle him.

    Trunp was threatening De Santis yesterday, saying it would go badly for him, might get hurt if he runs.

    Which is a clear tell Trump is afraid of him.
    Trump is done. He can run but there is no way back for him now. While the Republicans think he is a winner they will tolerate him. Last night showed he was a liability.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 11,182

    Completely off topic but following on from the discussion of Games Workshop a couple of nights ago, Ian Livingstone was knighted yesterday.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/11/08/sir-ian-livingstone-games-workshop-warhammer-co-founder-who/

    I had no idea Ian Livingstone and Steve Jackson were behind Games Workshop. I only knew of them from the Fighting Fantasy books. Which were ace.
    The thing I liked best about them was the effort they had put into world building. It was all so satisfyingly coherent; it made such internal sense.
    They did, however, fall short of J H Brennan's Grailquest series for sheer fun. I've just looked him up - surprisingly prolific for someone I thought only wrote five books and possibly also slightly odd.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 18,080
    edited November 2022
    Confusion at 'protests' in Norwich.

    This is about vehicles driving through a pedestrianised (since 2020) street, and activists stopping them.

    Police threaten to arrest a "human bollard" (the name is from local people who have stopped drivers zooming through Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in London after measures to stop through traffic have been vandalised) for "obstruction".

    Then police supervise a row of vehicles driving through the pedestrianised street, where driving through between 10am and 4pm carries a £50 fine.

    Normal for Norfolk?

    (Personally I'm with the protestors on this one, unless there is something I have missed - deliveries and times?, and I think the police mind is being confused by the events around Just Stop OIl. They should just have fined the vehicle drivers, and sent them back the way they came).

    https://twitter.com/carfreenorwich/status/1589290198785200128
  • ..

    Is there no food Scots can ruin?


    You kiddin' me? That looks fcuking magnificent.
    You cannot do that to a croissant.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 4,199

    Alistair said:

    I see once again being woke is such an electoral liability and being anti woke leads to electoral victories, oh.

    I'll say it again people don't give a shit about trans rights, either way, when they facing a choice between heating or eating, it's the economy stupid.

    Who would have thought the party that has this kind of jobs chart would do well on economic issues?


    Are those net or gross?

    Maybe a stupid question - but how would the gross number be negative?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Taz said:

    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    I feel like if he's going for it DeSantis should declare soon, before Trump officially does. Don't even give a chance for Trump to set the first arguments. Unsettle him.

    Trunp was threatening De Santis yesterday, saying it would go badly for him, might get hurt if he runs.

    Which is a clear tell Trump is afraid of him.
    Trump is done. He can run but there is no way back for him now. While the Republicans think he is a winner they will tolerate him. Last night showed he was a liability.
    Trump wasn't on the ballot
  • ..

    Is there no food Scots can ruin?


    You kiddin' me? That looks fcuking magnificent.
    You cannot do that to a croissant.
    Thought you'd approve of telling a French staple to girfuy.
  • TazTaz Posts: 10,701
    edited November 2022
    MattW said:

    Confusion at 'protests' in Norwich.

    This is about vehicles driving through a pedestrianised (since 2020) street, and activists stopping them.

    Police threaten to arrest a "human bollard" (the name is from local people who have stopped drivers zooming through Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in London after measures to stop through traffic have been vandalised) for "obstruction".

    Then police supervise a row of vehicles driving through the pedestrianised street, where driving through between 10am and 4pm carries a £50 fine.

    Normal for Norfolk?

    (Personally I'm with the protestors on this one, unless there is something I have missed, and I think the police mind is being confused by the events around Just Stop OIl. They should just have fined the vehicle drivers, and sent them back the way they came).

    https://twitter.com/carfreenorwich/status/1589290198785200128

    What do you think of the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre

    I'll be honest

    I'm dead against it.

    People might need access to Dixxxxxons.
  • Indeed.



    If I ran a poll aggregator I would simply not include the garbage partisan polls that every campaign knew were wrong.

    https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1590320371546619904
  • ..

    Is there no food Scots can ruin?


    You kiddin' me? That looks fcuking magnificent.
    You cannot do that to a croissant.
    Thought you'd approve of telling a French staple to girfuy.
    Don't tell anyone but I love French food.
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    edited November 2022
    HYUFD said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    Are you sure you aren't?

    There's that nisi to absolute gap which some of us find needs filling...
    Oh I know I'm a serial adulterer and fornicator but I'm not saying I'm God's representative on Earth and then breaking God's commandments.

    Edit - Just to clarify, I've been named co-respondent in two divorce proceedings.

    You haven't lived until your mother opens up one of those letters.
    The Pope is God's representative on earth for Christians and has been since St Peter. Protestants just disagree with Papal infallibility. The King is only Supreme Governor of the Church of England, effectively chairman while the Archbishop of Canterbury is CEO
    What religion do you think Ian Paisley adhered to if it wasn't Christianity? Paisley didn't recognise the Pope as God's representative on earth. He literally called him the Antichrist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbmIMbKZa4

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 7,154
    Taz said:

    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    I feel like if he's going for it DeSantis should declare soon, before Trump officially does. Don't even give a chance for Trump to set the first arguments. Unsettle him.

    Trunp was threatening De Santis yesterday, saying it would go badly for him, might get hurt if he runs.

    Which is a clear tell Trump is afraid of him.
    Trump is done. He can run but there is no way back for him now. While the Republicans think he is a winner they will tolerate him. Last night showed he was a liability.
    The Republicans are not rational.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,081
    Carnyx said:

    Completely off topic but following on from the discussion of Games Workshop a couple of nights ago, Ian Livingstone was knighted yesterday.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/11/08/sir-ian-livingstone-games-workshop-warhammer-co-founder-who/

    I had a schoolfriend once and we used to like making model planes and ships together. Talking (much!) more recently about his children, I inquired if modern children were too busy with computers and video games to bother with such old fashioned hand to eye coordination skills. To my surprise he positively praised Citadel/GW for encouraging children to take up skilful modelmaking and above all painting - he reckoned it had been good for his boys.
    (They do a lot of good work seeding school clubs, Scouts and Duke of Edinburgh.)
  • MattW said:

    Confusion at 'protests' in Norwich.

    This is about vehicles driving through a pedestrianised (since 2020) street, and activists stopping them.

    Police threaten to arrest a "human bollard" (the name is from local people who have stopped drivers zooming through Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in London after measures to stop through traffic have been vandalised) for "obstruction".

    Then police supervise a row of vehicles driving through the pedestrianised street, where driving through between 10am and 4pm carries a £50 fine.

    Normal for Norfolk?

    (Personally I'm with the protestors on this one, unless there is something I have missed - deliveries and times?, and I think the police mind is being confused by the events around Just Stop OIl. They should just have fined the vehicle drivers, and sent them back the way they came).

    https://twitter.com/carfreenorwich/status/1589290198785200128

    Hopefully the police let the vehicles through while noting down the reg numbers, and the fines will be in the post. The just stop oil crowd have always been happy to take whatever punishment comes their way and I'm sure the just let us drive wherever the fuck we like crowd will be similar.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,814
    edited November 2022
    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Confusion at 'protests' in Norwich.

    This is about vehicles driving through a pedestrianised (since 2020) street, and activists stopping them.

    Police threaten to arrest a "human bollard" (the name is from local people who have stopped drivers zooming through Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in London after measures to stop through traffic have been vandalised) for "obstruction".

    Then police supervise a row of vehicles driving through the pedestrianised street, where driving through between 10am and 4pm carries a £50 fine.

    Normal for Norfolk?

    (Personally I'm with the protestors on this one, unless there is something I have missed, and I think the police mind is being confused by the events around Just Stop OIl. They should just have fined the vehicle drivers, and sent them back the way they came).

    https://twitter.com/carfreenorwich/status/1589290198785200128

    What do you think of the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre

    I'll be honest

    I'm dead against it.

    People might need access to Dixxxxxons.
    Norwich is incredibly unfriendly to cars. And the public transport network is utter shit. Almost oontinuous Labour council and a prick as MP (Lewis).
  • DJ41DJ41 Posts: 792
    edited November 2022
    Carnyx said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    HYUFD said:

    Selebian said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    Lots of street performers in York, particularly around that area. Could have been a novelty juggling act that went wrong. :wink:
    Not shouting slogans about blame for slavery though
    Bit of a minefield, York, what with James II branding his slaves DoY, and the current groper's antics.
    And bro Chas helping to kick-start it all (in the UK) with the Royal African Company or whatever it was called, so one can't fob it off on those dodgy Jacobites.
    Yep - the RAC was founded in 1660 as soon as a certain family bounced back like a bad cheque, and it was led by aforementioned James, who incidentally gave his name to New York.

    Good to see the people of Yorkshire resist. Makes me proud to be a Luddite.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 6,814

    MattW said:

    Confusion at 'protests' in Norwich.

    This is about vehicles driving through a pedestrianised (since 2020) street, and activists stopping them.

    Police threaten to arrest a "human bollard" (the name is from local people who have stopped drivers zooming through Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in London after measures to stop through traffic have been vandalised) for "obstruction".

    Then police supervise a row of vehicles driving through the pedestrianised street, where driving through between 10am and 4pm carries a £50 fine.

    Normal for Norfolk?

    (Personally I'm with the protestors on this one, unless there is something I have missed - deliveries and times?, and I think the police mind is being confused by the events around Just Stop OIl. They should just have fined the vehicle drivers, and sent them back the way they came).

    https://twitter.com/carfreenorwich/status/1589290198785200128

    Hopefully the police let the vehicles through while noting down the reg numbers, and the fines will be in the post. The just stop oil crowd have always been happy to take whatever punishment comes their way and I'm sure the just let us drive wherever the fuck we like crowd will be similar.
    Exchange street has been a pain in the arse forever, the problem is its the only way out of that side of the city without a massive faff detour. Thats why they are all pretending they havent seen the signage or heard about tge new rules.
    Norwich doesnt want cars but the bus service is fucking awful.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955

    Taz said:

    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    I feel like if he's going for it DeSantis should declare soon, before Trump officially does. Don't even give a chance for Trump to set the first arguments. Unsettle him.

    Trunp was threatening De Santis yesterday, saying it would go badly for him, might get hurt if he runs.

    Which is a clear tell Trump is afraid of him.
    Trump is done. He can run but there is no way back for him now. While the Republicans think he is a winner they will tolerate him. Last night showed he was a liability.
    The Republicans are not rational.
    Their voters, maybe.

    The money behind the Party? Oh, they are every rational at discerning a winner from a loser.
  • DJ41 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Ishmael_Z said:

    .

    kjh said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    You could be tried too (and perhaps should, given your subversive views on the supremacy of the Conservative Party over Parliament). But is there a case? Unless you think throwing an egg at a King is remotely treason, unless one knows he;s allergic to egg proteins ...
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Eggs thrown at Charles in York

    Alleged anti slavery protestor

    Also Zuckerberg sacks 11,000 employees

    And protester correctly arrested while crowd shouts 'shame on you' at the protesters

    https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1590302287267667968?s=20&t=KsVz9KwMs798_ewLfJzhCw

    You'd better be careful saying that sort of thing in public - might well be not guilty in court.
    He could in theory be tried for Treason
    and aiding the King's enemies but at least is guilty of attempted assault or battery
    Oh, so you don't believe in the rule of law or keeping the libel lawyers off OGH's back?
    Forget libel lawyers, he threw an egg at the King, in whose name prosecutions are made in this country.

    We have been far too weak with leftwing extremist republicans and nationalists like you for too long if you think someone who attacks the King has a libel case.

    In previous centuries he might even have been hanged!

    Away and change your carpet. The whole point is you can't say X attacked the King till he is tried and found guilty. Full stop.
    He most clearly did try and attack him, hence he threw an egg at him.
    He might claim he was throwing it at the person standing next to Charles with whom he had a dispute, and his aim wasn't very good. Just saying....

    It would certainly be my defense if I was up for treason.
    Perhaps the egg thrower is a staunch marriage person and hates adultery as a good Anglican.

    After all the Supreme Governor is a fornicator and adulterer.
    Are you sure you aren't?

    There's that nisi to absolute gap which some of us find needs filling...
    Oh I know I'm a serial adulterer and fornicator but I'm not saying I'm God's representative on Earth and then breaking God's commandments.

    Edit - Just to clarify, I've been named co-respondent in two divorce proceedings.

    You haven't lived until your mother opens up one of those letters.
    The Pope is God's representative on earth for Christians and has been since St Peter. Protestants just disagree with Papal infallibility. The King is only Supreme Governor of the Church of England, effectively chairman while the Archbishop of Canterbury is CEO
    What religion do you think Ian Paisley adhered to if it wasn't Christianity? Paisley didn't recognise the Pope as God's representative on earth. He literally called him the Antichrist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbmIMbKZa4

    Paisley had his own church (Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster)
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,059
    edited November 2022

    Taz said:

    MattW said:

    Confusion at 'protests' in Norwich.

    This is about vehicles driving through a pedestrianised (since 2020) street, and activists stopping them.

    Police threaten to arrest a "human bollard" (the name is from local people who have stopped drivers zooming through Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in London after measures to stop through traffic have been vandalised) for "obstruction".

    Then police supervise a row of vehicles driving through the pedestrianised street, where driving through between 10am and 4pm carries a £50 fine.

    Normal for Norfolk?

    (Personally I'm with the protestors on this one, unless there is something I have missed, and I think the police mind is being confused by the events around Just Stop OIl. They should just have fined the vehicle drivers, and sent them back the way they came).

    https://twitter.com/carfreenorwich/status/1589290198785200128

    What do you think of the pedestrianisation of Norwich City Centre

    I'll be honest

    I'm dead against it.

    People might need access to Dixxxxxons.
    Norwich is incredibly unfriendly to cars. And the public transport network is utter shit. Almost oontinuous Labour council and a prick as MP (Lewis).
    You are Alan Partridge and I claim my £5

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-34279158

    *EDIT* Just noticed that the poster immediately above made the same connection. Apologies!
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 11,059
    edited November 2022
    Deleted.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955

    ..

    Is there no food Scots can ruin?


    You kiddin' me? That looks fcuking magnificent.
    Maybe cut off the rind on the bacon though? That's just going to pull the whole thing apart when you try to eat it.

    Not one for Ed Miliband to consume in public though.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    MattW said:

    Confusion at 'protests' in Norwich.

    This is about vehicles driving through a pedestrianised (since 2020) street, and activists stopping them.

    Police threaten to arrest a "human bollard" (the name is from local people who have stopped drivers zooming through Low Traffic Neighbourhoods in London after measures to stop through traffic have been vandalised) for "obstruction".

    Then police supervise a row of vehicles driving through the pedestrianised street, where driving through between 10am and 4pm carries a £50 fine.

    Normal for Norfolk?

    (Personally I'm with the protestors on this one, unless there is something I have missed - deliveries and times?, and I think the police mind is being confused by the events around Just Stop OIl. They should just have fined the vehicle drivers, and sent them back the way they came).

    https://twitter.com/carfreenorwich/status/1589290198785200128

    Hopefully the police let the vehicles through while noting down the reg numbers, and the fines will be in the post. The just stop oil crowd have always been happy to take whatever punishment comes their way and I'm sure the just let us drive wherever the fuck we like crowd will be similar.
    The police were actively waving vehicles through. Now I'll always stop at a red light etc and of course it's strict liability and all - but having an officer waving or stopping traffic is the one situation that trumps that, so can't see how any fines will be issued for the drivers.
    A right mess by Norfolk police.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 38,840

    Indeed.

    If I ran a poll aggregator I would simply not include the garbage partisan polls that every campaign knew were wrong.
    https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1590320371546619904

    Don't see the point of poll ramping. It just backfires.

    Success = Result - Expectations
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 7,154
    .

    Taz said:

    Alistair said:

    kle4 said:

    I feel like if he's going for it DeSantis should declare soon, before Trump officially does. Don't even give a chance for Trump to set the first arguments. Unsettle him.

    Trunp was threatening De Santis yesterday, saying it would go badly for him, might get hurt if he runs.

    Which is a clear tell Trump is afraid of him.
    Trump is done. He can run but there is no way back for him now. While the Republicans think he is a winner they will tolerate him. Last night showed he was a liability.
    The Republicans are not rational.
    Their voters, maybe.

    The money behind the Party? Oh, they are every rational at discerning a winner from a loser.
    They would have dumped Trump long ago if they were. Or maybe they are rational, but know the Republican voters in primaries don't give them a choice?
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