Hunt is of course now unsackable, holds the purse strings, and is by a country mile the most experienced minister in the government. He's also ruthless, tough, and someone who really masters detail. The PM, in contrast, is the most busted of all flushes. This will be an interesting dynamic, but I think it's likely that he will fulfil the role Lod Mandelson fulfilled when Gordon Brown swallowed his pride and brought him back into the cabinet to effectively run the government.
Tory MPs should accept this ugly mess as probably less ugly than any of the alternatives.
You have to hand it to the ERG, they backed a Remainer, Truss over a Leaver, Sunak and ignored those who wanted to back Leaver Badenoch.
They now have a Remainer as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor, Boris' opponent from 2019 of course and a staunch May loyalist.
One can't help but laugh at Mark Francois who is responsible for this!
There is only one person responsible and that is your toxic hero Johnson
No. Boris won the Tories this majority and ERG backers like Baker turning on him and Francois then ordering the ERG to back Truss has meant they have now seen a Leaver PM and Leaver Chancellor in Boris and Sunak replaced by Remainer Truss as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor.
This now looks more like it could be more like the old May government than the Boris government
Boris toxic and irresponsible behaviour led us to today
Unless I'm being daft, the sign off line is from Kwarteng 'The Right Honourable Kwasi Kwarteng MP' (no idea about the actual signature). 'Senior moment' from whoever did the actual typing up at No 10?
No that’s the style of Downing Street letters I think. Addressee at bottom.
I'd never noticed that before. Looks odd (hasn't in the past normally appeared right under the signature, I think, which is why I noticed it this time)
Shhhh, don't let facts get in the way of The Narrative.
According to the Washington Post, the real boss of Number 10 is doing his job, quite well: " A London fox is just the latest to learn what many animals in central London already know: Don’t mess with Larry the Cat.
I suppose Larry isn't qualified to be Prime Minister, but perhaps he can be even more of a power behind the scenes. And, were I a British citizen, I would take some pride in this competent civil servant.
At least Boris could organise a piss up and didnt even need the brewery.
For me this removes any last vestige of missing him. The one and only plus was he could be "entertaining" - well I'm sorry but this from Truss is entertainment par excellence. There'll be a blockbuster movie and maybe some oscars if they cast it well. Johnson was a great big tedious yawn of a bore by comparison.
Chris Philp confirmed to have been "moved to another job". Home Office sources tell me he was "vile to work with" and his ambition "wreaked of desperation". Few will be sad to see him go. https://twitter.com/NicolaKelly/status/1580907007640743938
Come on @Heathener you say you have the post. In front of you. So just cut and paste. Takes seconds. And link, please.
Surprised to see you so animated about being accused of saying something a bit silly.
I’m travelling around the world for free. Again. Always makes me feisty
But, really, PB-era can’t go around accusing others of lying and saying “I have the proof right here” and then not actually provide the proof
We have PB standards and it has always been up to me, in the end, to uphold them
@heathener says she has the exact quote I made, unironically calling liz truss the “Tory saviour, a diamond in the rough” and much else. So all she has to is paste it and link it
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
QED
lol. OK fair enough I said that. You somewhat exaggerated my remarks - but it doesn’t look like I was joking either
News: Sweden has called off a „Joint Investigation Team“ with Germany and Denmark into the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, referring to information too highly classified to share.
Has Liz played a blinder here? It's surely cemented in the public's mind that silly old Kwasi was responsible for the mayhem; Liz has simply done the sensible thing - remove her errant prodigy for the national good (albeit with a heavy heart) and install the striding messiah of Hunt. Liz revived!
Come on @Heathener you say you have the post. In front of you. So just cut and paste. Takes seconds. And link, please.
Surprised to see you so animated about being accused of saying something a bit silly.
I’m travelling around the world for free. Again. Always makes me feisty
But, really, PB-era can’t go around accusing others of lying and saying “I have the proof right here” and then not actually provide the proof
We have PB standards and it has always been up to me, in the end, to uphold them
@heathener says she has the exact quote I made, unironically calling liz truss the “Tory saviour, a diamond in the rough” and much else. So all she has to is paste it and link it
Why does she have to? Fuck all will happen if she doesn't.
Con GAIN from Green Con hold Lab hold Con GAIN from Lab Lab hold
Good Week/Bad Week Index
Con +65 Grn +50 LDm +48 Lab +5
Adjusted Seat Value
Con +1.1 Grn +0.8 LDm +0.8 Lab +0.1
Cons: The Epping Forest result is a bit of a headliner, but in the round it's a win in a very safe Con ward that was serendipitously won by the Green on one occasion, so there's not much value for the Cons there. All the positive value for them comes from Leicester, with a very small negative in Gloucester. Lab: A bad loss in Leicester, but offset by reasonable result in Hartlepool and a mildly good one in Stockport. LDm: pretty positive scores in Stockport and Gloucester Grn: Although they lost the Epping Forest seat, because of the same factors that downplay the Con win they get a somewhat positive score, about the same as the score in Leicester.
Hunt is of course now unsackable, holds the purse strings, and is by a country mile the most experienced minister in the government. He's also ruthless, tough, and someone who really masters detail. The PM, in contrast, is the most busted of all flushes. This will be an interesting dynamic, but I think it's likely that he will fulfil the role Lod Mandelson fulfilled when Gordon Brown swallowed his pride and brought him back into the cabinet to effectively run the government.
Tory MPs should accept this ugly mess as probably less ugly than any of the alternatives.
There's a satisfying amount of bitterness in this post that La Truss has survived. Hunt is no leadership threat, we saw how much support he has from MPs in the leadership election. He's been given a lifeline from obscurity; he won't run the Government and it'll probably be quite a few months before he even tries to run the Exchequer. He will in time develop his owm power base and leadership ambitions again, but for now, job's a good 'un.
The penny has finally dropped that they need to get the sensible remainers back in to sort out the mess. I am relieved, was dreading it being Redwood or Rees-Mogg. Truss is back-tracking so fast you can see the sparks flying.
You have to hand it to the ERG, they backed a Remainer, Truss over a Leaver, Sunak and ignored those who wanted to back Leaver Badenoch.
They now have a Remainer as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor, Boris' opponent from 2019 of course and a staunch May loyalist.
One can't help but laugh at Mark Francois who is responsible for this!
There is only one person responsible and that is your toxic hero Johnson
No. Boris won the Tories this majority and ERG backers like Baker turning on him and Francois then ordering the ERG to back Truss has meant they have now seen a Leaver PM and Leaver Chancellor in Boris and Sunak replaced by Remainer Truss as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor.
This now looks more like it could be more like the old May government than the Boris government
Boris toxic and irresponsible behaviour led us to today
And by the way you voted remain
No, the likes of you forcing him out over partygate led to today and a bigger Starmer lead than ever there was under Boris.
Yes I did vote Remain and will remain loyal to this government (as I was to the May government) and Hunt is a serious figure for the Treasury and a proper Tory but I also respected the Leave vote and it was only Boris who delivered Brexit
The next time a Labour government complains about "the markets" preventing them from implementing their policies they probably won't get much sympathy.
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. But (big) hats off for unearthing an angle about all this that Labour need to worry about!
News: Sweden has called off a „Joint Investigation Team“ with Germany and Denmark into the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, referring to information too highly classified to share.
Americans. If it were the Russians, they'd be squealing it from the rooftops.
At some point, people need to start having serious conversations (preferably in non-bugged rooms) about US overreach. Destroying European infrastructure (if that's what has happened) is not cool.
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
QED
lol. OK fair enough I said that. You somewhat exaggerated my remarks - but it doesn’t look like I was joking either
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
QED
lol. OK fair enough I said that. You somewhat exaggerated my remarks - but it doesn’t look like I was joking either
I shall eat humble pie and grits for breakfast
Who wants to own up to liking the pictured post? And who wants to go back and unlike asap?
Can't be bothered to go and find it, but I'd guess maybe LG and our piratical friend on current form, struggling for the third to be honest. Liz Truss fans please [come forward and] explain?
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
QED
lol. OK fair enough I said that. You somewhat exaggerated my remarks - but it doesn’t look like I was joking either
You have to hand it to the ERG, they backed a Remainer, Truss over a Leaver, Sunak and ignored those who wanted to back Leaver Badenoch.
They now have a Remainer as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor, Boris' opponent from 2019 of course and a staunch May loyalist.
One can't help but laugh at Mark Francois who is responsible for this!
There is only one person responsible and that is your toxic hero Johnson
No. Boris won the Tories this majority and ERG backers like Baker turning on him and Francois then ordering the ERG to back Truss has meant they have now seen a Leaver PM and Leaver Chancellor in Boris and Sunak replaced by Remainer Truss as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor.
This now looks more like it could be more like the old May government than the Boris government
Boris toxic and irresponsible behaviour led us to today
And by the way you voted remain
No, the likes of you forcing him out over partygate led to today and a bigger Starmer lead than ever there was under Boris.
Yes I did vote Remain and will remain loyal to this government (as I was to the May government) and Hunt is a serious figure for the Treasury and a proper Tory but I also respected the Leave vote and it was only Boris who delivered Brexit
I didn’t force him out
Boris behaviour became so toxic he was unacceptable to the vast majority of ordinary people
How long was that? Started a smidge late (they always do), three questions, four questions? It's not yet quarter to and she's finished after a not particularly good performance.
On a presentational point she needs to not look round to find the next journalist, it just looks dithery. Just announce the name and wait for them to stand up.
News: Sweden has called off a „Joint Investigation Team“ with Germany and Denmark into the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, referring to information too highly classified to share.
You have to hand it to the ERG, they backed a Remainer, Truss over a Leaver, Sunak and ignored those who wanted to back Leaver Badenoch.
They now have a Remainer as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor, Boris' opponent from 2019 of course and a staunch May loyalist.
One can't help but laugh at Mark Francois who is responsible for this!
There is only one person responsible and that is your toxic hero Johnson
No. Boris won the Tories this majority and ERG backers like Baker turning on him and Francois then ordering the ERG to back Truss has meant they have now seen a Leaver PM and Leaver Chancellor in Boris and Sunak replaced by Remainer Truss as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor.
This now looks more like it could be more like the old May government than the Boris government
Well that's no bad thing is it? Let's get rid of Braverman and JRM before we get too carried away though HY.
At least Boris could organise a piss up and didnt even need the brewery.
For me this removes any last vestige of missing him. The one and only plus was he could be "entertaining" - well I'm sorry but this from Truss is entertainment par excellence. There'll be a blockbuster movie and maybe some oscars if they cast it well. Johnson was a great big tedious yawn of a bore by comparison.
News: Sweden has called off a „Joint Investigation Team“ with Germany and Denmark into the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, referring to information too highly classified to share.
Americans. If it were the Russians, they'd be squealing it from the rooftops.
At some point, people need to start having serious conversations (preferably in non-bugged rooms) about US overreach. Destroying European infrastructure (if that's what has happened) is not cool.
The Russian attempt to start selling gas via Nordstream 2 points to another possibility.
According to the Washington Post, the real boss of Number 10 is doing his job, quite well: " A London fox is just the latest to learn what many animals in central London already know: Don’t mess with Larry the Cat.
I suppose Larry isn't qualified to be Prime Minister, but perhaps he can be even more of a power behind the scenes. And, were I a British citizen, I would take some pride in this competent civil servant.
This line is gloriously badly thought through:
Larry has also seen off several members of the animal kingdom. He’s currently on his fourth prime minister.
News: Sweden has called off a „Joint Investigation Team“ with Germany and Denmark into the attacks on the Nordstream pipelines, referring to information too highly classified to share.
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
QED
lol. OK fair enough I said that. You somewhat exaggerated my remarks - but it doesn’t look like I was joking either
Shit statement off a piece of paper read in a dazed monotone.
"I'll take questions. Errrrrrrrrrr....."
3 questions of how the fuck can you stay in your job.
And she pulls the plug and walks off stage.
She is the worst person I have ever seen in a senior political job. Even worse than Jeremy.
Worse than Estelle Morris ?
It was an utterly abysmal performance. She read from a script and did not look to camera. I appreciate most read from scripts but it is not usually that obvious.
"She is the real deal." "She has the empathy" "[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories." "Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star." "She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour." "Articulate woman." "Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
QED
lol. OK fair enough I said that. You somewhat exaggerated my remarks - but it doesn’t look like I was joking either
I shall eat humble pie and grits for breakfast
Who wants to own up to liking the pictured post? And who wants to go back and unlike asap?
Can't be bothered to go and find it, but I'd guess maybe LG and our piratical friend on current form, struggling for the third to be honest. Liz Truss fans please [come forward and] explain?
I don't recall the post, but I'd happily like it now. I find it funny how everyone's predictions about winning the next election are being held up to ridicule; unless I miss my guess, we haven't had the election.
Shit statement off a piece of paper read in a dazed monotone.
"I'll take questions. Errrrrrrrrrr....."
3 questions of how the fuck can you stay in your job.
And she pulls the plug and walks off stage.
She is the worst person I have ever seen in a senior political job. Even worse than Jeremy.
I predicted it back in July. What I don't get is how someone so terrible doesn't realize their own limitations? What on earth made her think she has what it takes to be PM? And even more ludicrously how did she get so many people on the Conservative Party voting for her?
"This is quite comfortably our largest ever Labour vote share and largest ever Labour lead - even back in the ComRes days, don't think @PigsAndPolling saw anything like this."
You have to hand it to the ERG, they backed a Remainer, Truss over a Leaver, Sunak and ignored those who wanted to back Leaver Badenoch.
They now have a Remainer as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor, Boris' opponent from 2019 of course and a staunch May loyalist.
One can't help but laugh at Mark Francois who is responsible for this!
There is only one person responsible and that is your toxic hero Johnson
No. Boris won the Tories this majority and ERG backers like Baker turning on him and Francois then ordering the ERG to back Truss has meant they have now seen a Leaver PM and Leaver Chancellor in Boris and Sunak replaced by Remainer Truss as PM and Remainer Hunt as Chancellor.
This now looks more like it could be more like the old May government than the Boris government
Boris toxic and irresponsible behaviour led us to today
And by the way you voted remain
No, the likes of you forcing him out over partygate led to today and a bigger Starmer lead than ever there was under Boris.
Yes I did vote Remain and will remain loyal to this government (as I was to the May government) and Hunt is a serious figure for the Treasury and a proper Tory but I also respected the Leave vote and it was only Boris who delivered Brexit
I didn’t force him out
Boris behaviour became so toxic he was unacceptable to the vast majority of ordinary people
I'd argue that Boris is a typical example of character flaws undermining performance. He did not perform terribly as PM given the circumstances thrown at him (e.g. Covid, Ukraine), but he had character flaws that made him totally unsuitable for the job. As those flaws became visible, they undermined his entire position.
But the flaws were obvious from his time as Mayor of London; it just took a few years for them to become visible to the general public.
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Tory MPs should accept this ugly mess as probably less ugly than any of the alternatives.
And by the way you voted remain
No idea how many there might be.
Any other parties that don't want an election right now to help with the numbers? DUP?
Larry, Downing Street’s “chief mouser,” made headlines in Britain this week when he chased off a fox prowling on his turf."
source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/10/14/larry-cat-downing-street-fox/
I suppose Larry isn't qualified to be Prime Minister, but perhaps he can be even more of a power behind the scenes. And, were I a British citizen, I would take some pride in this competent civil servant.
https://twitter.com/NicolaKelly/status/1580907007640743938
Ding ding ding Putin’s War
But, really, PB-era can’t go around accusing others of lying and saying “I have the proof right here” and then not actually provide the proof
We have PB standards and it has always been up to me, in the end, to uphold them
@heathener says she has the exact quote I made, unironically calling liz truss the “Tory saviour, a diamond in the rough” and much else. So all she has to is paste it and link it
"She is the real deal."
"She has the empathy"
"[She has the] cleverness to win the next election for the Tories."
"Somehow, not by merit, purely by luck, the Tories have unearthed a star."
"She espouses rightwing beliefs with humanity and humour."
"Articulate woman."
"Fascinating."
It's fine. We all make mistakes from time to time. The fool fails to admit it.
QED
I shall eat humble pie and grits for breakfast
https://twitter.com/fideliusschmid/status/1580895348910075905
Indeed this is embarrassing to the extreme
etc. etc.
Don't be a dick.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
GO NOW
Yes I did vote Remain and will remain loyal to this government (as I was to the May government) and Hunt is a serious figure for the Treasury and a proper Tory but I also respected the Leave vote and it was only Boris who delivered Brexit
She even sounds dithery as fuck nominating journos to ask questions.
But @Leon you do get it badly wrong a lot of the time. It's not helped by being so acerbic to anyone who disagrees with you.
A learning experience for you.
She is robotic and absurd
Just walked off
She can't even get questions asked from the crowd. Jesus.
If that's the best she can do, she's gone.
At some point, people need to start having serious conversations (preferably in non-bugged rooms) about US overreach. Destroying European infrastructure (if that's what has happened) is not cool.
I shall leave it there
x
Can't be bothered to go and find it, but I'd guess maybe LG and our piratical friend on current form, struggling for the third to be honest. Liz Truss fans please [come forward and] explain?
Boris behaviour became so toxic he was unacceptable to the vast majority of ordinary people
Shit statement off a piece of paper read in a dazed monotone.
"I'll take questions. Errrrrrrrrrr....."
3 questions of how the fuck can you stay in your job.
And she pulls the plug and walks off stage.
She is the worst person I have ever seen in a senior political job. Even worse than Jeremy.
📈28pt LABOUR LEAD
🌹Lab 51 (+1)
🌳Con 23 (-2)
🔶LD 10 (-1)
🎗️SNP 4 (+1)
🌍Gre 4 (+1)
⬜️Other 8 (=)
2,036 UK adults, 7-9 Oct
(chg from 30 Sept - 2 Oct) https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1580917172310003712/photo/1
http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2020/3/31/horror-actressing-shelley-duvall-in-the-shining.html
Larry has also seen off several members of the animal kingdom. He’s currently on his fourth prime minister.
Sharp intake of breath as she walks off.
'Aren't you going to say sorry?!' hack shouted as she left. https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1580917874540978176/photo/1
Just leave it to Hunt....and run away
Pathetic. I'm genuinely fed up with her.
It was an utterly abysmal performance. She read from a script and did not look to camera. I appreciate most read from scripts but it is not usually that obvious.
"This is quite comfortably our largest ever Labour vote share and largest ever Labour lead - even back in the ComRes days, don't think @PigsAndPolling saw anything like this."
And repeat. https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1580917172310003712
But the flaws were obvious from his time as Mayor of London; it just took a few years for them to become visible to the general public.