And so ends the Second Elizabethan age – politicalbetting.com
It is very hard not to be impressed by the sheer spectacle of today’s events with powerful images being beamed across the world. They certainly send a message out but I’m not so sure what that is and how it will be regarded.
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
He has been called out as such by many posters on here and I do not recall anyone defending him until now
This "Russian Troll" business for anybody who won't gargle Zelensky's balls is fucking pathetic and born of nauseating arrogance.
Untrue - you are not in the slightest a russian troll and yet are extremely childish about him, calling him the disney prince and so on, as if that is better than overly lionising him. And you take a more hard headed approach to looking at the reporting of war news and propaganda too, being far more skeptical and cautious. Yet again, are no russian troll.
So your premise is utter bollocks.
Edit: FWIW, I don't think Dynamo is a russian troll, just contrarian.
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
Could we have a separate grouping of people who would vote for a Republic if given the option, but don't think it's worth the energy and political carnage to actually have a referendum?
That's literally where I am
Not really - you seem to really care about it.
I'm just enjoying the spectacle, the music and - most especially - the history.
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
He has been called out as such by many posters on here and I do not recall anyone defending him until now
Well no but you wouldn't defend him because he doesn't agree with your politics.
Just as you called me out for something and then didn't call somebody else out for the same thing, because they agree with what you think.
You're one of the most partisan posters here, you target people for political reasons.
Many across this board call him out and so far you seem to be a lone voice supporting him
And there is nobody on this forum more tribal than yourself when it comes to politics
Go on then, call out @MattW, he did politics during the funeral.
Yet silence from you, because he agrees with your politics.
You are pathetically partisan. I don't pretend.
You clearly were a Boy Scout or something in a past life, you do love to pretend to have authority where none exists. You're the definition of a Karen.
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
He has been called out as such by many posters on here and I do not recall anyone defending him until now
Well no but you wouldn't defend him because he doesn't agree with your politics.
Just as you called me out for something and then didn't call somebody else out for the same thing, because they agree with what you think.
You're one of the most partisan posters here, you target people for political reasons.
Many across this board call him out and so far you seem to be a lone voice supporting him
And there is nobody on this forum more tribal than yourself when it comes to politics
Go on then, call out @MattW, he did politics during the funeral.
Yet silence from you, because he agrees with your politics.
You are pathetically partisan. I don't pretend.
You clearly were a Boy Scout or something in a past life, you do love to pretend to have authority where none exists. You're the definition of a Karen.
Why did you have to revive this argument onto the new thread?
This bit on the roads is actually the most moving of all. The ordinary people of Britain turning out for their queen. Unscripted. Unpredictable. Yet here they are
Not quite sure how Charles is less legitimate than his mother was. And as for Truss, she is the elected leader of the party who have enough seats at Westminster to pass legislation.
As Gordon Brown had when he took over between elections.
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
He has been called out as such by many posters on here and I do not recall anyone defending him until now
Well no but you wouldn't defend him because he doesn't agree with your politics.
Just as you called me out for something and then didn't call somebody else out for the same thing, because they agree with what you think.
You're one of the most partisan posters here, you target people for political reasons.
Many across this board call him out and so far you seem to be a lone voice supporting him
And there is nobody on this forum more tribal than yourself when it comes to politics
Go on then, call out @MattW, he did politics during the funeral.
Yet silence from you, because he agrees with your politics.
You are pathetically partisan. I don't pretend.
You clearly were a Boy Scout or something in a past life, you do love to pretend to have authority where none exists. You're the definition of a Karen.
Why did you have to revive this argument onto the new thread?
Because it needed closing off. I will not have Big G doing his usual last word nonsense.
It was a marvellous tribute, both the funeral and procession, to a great woman who was respected in the UK and across the world for her dignity and service as our head of state.
However it was also the last ceremony in Britain which will likely ever be a truly global event and final act of imperial Britain reflecting the Queen being the last monarch of the British Empire.
Charles and William's and indeed George's coronations and funerals will be big events but they will not be on this scale
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
He has been called out as such by many posters on here and I do not recall anyone defending him until now
Well no but you wouldn't defend him because he doesn't agree with your politics.
Just as you called me out for something and then didn't call somebody else out for the same thing, because they agree with what you think.
You're one of the most partisan posters here, you target people for political reasons.
Many across this board call him out and so far you seem to be a lone voice supporting him
And there is nobody on this forum more tribal than yourself when it comes to politics
Go on then, call out @MattW, he did politics during the funeral.
Yet silence from you, because he agrees with your politics.
You are pathetically partisan. I don't pretend.
You clearly were a Boy Scout or something in a past life, you do love to pretend to have authority where none exists. You're the definition of a Karen.
Why did you have to revive this argument onto the new thread?
Because it needed closing off. I will not have Big G doing his usual last word nonsense.
Now we can put it to bed.
Seriously? I thought the whole point of this board was to interact with people, not to reply to them and expect no reply.
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
He has been called out as such by many posters on here and I do not recall anyone defending him until now
Well no but you wouldn't defend him because he doesn't agree with your politics.
Just as you called me out for something and then didn't call somebody else out for the same thing, because they agree with what you think.
You're one of the most partisan posters here, you target people for political reasons.
Many across this board call him out and so far you seem to be a lone voice supporting him
And there is nobody on this forum more tribal than yourself when it comes to politics
Go on then, call out @MattW, he did politics during the funeral.
Yet silence from you, because he agrees with your politics.
You are pathetically partisan. I don't pretend.
You clearly were a Boy Scout or something in a past life, you do love to pretend to have authority where none exists. You're the definition of a Karen.
Matt's was a pro-Brexit post. It passed the smell test.
I suppose you get to see The Queen's coffin by standing for 30 mins on the Kensington Road rather than queuing for 8 hours. If I was in west London, I'd do it myself, despite being a mild republican. Moment in history and all that.
We have a head of state and a prime minister who both have no democratic legitimacy.
And dissent is heavily cracked down on.
This is an intolerable state of affairs
No, we have a PM who leads a party of government which won a landslide majority at the last general election.
We also have a King who is a constitutional monarch and let us not remember the republican Corbyn was trounced at the 2019 general election too. Now both Truss and Starmer as well as Davey have proclaimed their support for Charles as King
Boris and Carrie Johnston barging past Theresa and Phillip May, only to be stopped by officials and made to obey the correct order of process. And now he's in full sulk
So, CoL, any plans yet Liz? Even the energy companies now want a windfall tax.
Your tax cut will help poor people with 37p more a month.
They want an extension of the already existing.windfall tax and no price cap freeze/wholeasle cost manipulation because they want to continue profiteering which would cripple everyone except them.
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
This bit on the roads is actually the most moving of all. The ordinary people of Britain turning out for their queen. Unscripted. Unpredictable. Yet here they are
The pipers as the walked the coffin from Westminster Hall to the Abbey. That was emotional.
There's something about the bagpipes: wistful, evocative, sad and yet inspiring.
So, CoL, any plans yet Liz? Even the energy companies now want a windfall tax.
Your tax cut will help poor people with 37p more a month.
If the energy companies want it, surely it's a bad thing?
Why's that?
A bit of cynicism about their motives I’d imagine.
Precisely the same cynicism that CHB would be showing if they weren't agreeing with Sir Keir.
I have no idea what the energy companies said, but it's obvious they aren't an impartial source of commentary on the proposals. Especially if they are going to lose out significantly.
Stunning display by the Church, the Royal family, the Military and by London. We will not see the like again.
Quite. Charles's funeral should deliberately undershoot this one.
Wonder what London Bridge is for him. Mornington Crescent?
Weird to think that almost imminently, if not already, plans are being laid for London Bridge 2
It won't be the same, today's event was epic both here and globally.
Charles' funeral will likely be not much grander than that for the King of Sweden or the King of Spain
It will be far grander than those, albeit not as grand perhaps as this one. He will likely still be king of many realms and Britain still a major power
We seem to be calling out a Russian troll despite the fact he's not said anything pro Russian, just that they hate the monarchy.
Is TSE a Russian troll?
No, he's being called out for being a Russian troll as he's a Russian troll.
Dozens of people here are anti-monarchy. The difference is, we're not Russian trolls.
He has been called out as such by many posters on here and I do not recall anyone defending him until now
Well no but you wouldn't defend him because he doesn't agree with your politics.
Just as you called me out for something and then didn't call somebody else out for the same thing, because they agree with what you think.
You're one of the most partisan posters here, you target people for political reasons.
Many across this board call him out and so far you seem to be a lone voice supporting him
And there is nobody on this forum more tribal than yourself when it comes to politics
Go on then, call out @MattW, he did politics during the funeral.
Yet silence from you, because he agrees with your politics.
You are pathetically partisan. I don't pretend.
You clearly were a Boy Scout or something in a past life, you do love to pretend to have authority where none exists. You're the definition of a Karen.
Why did you have to revive this argument onto the new thread?
Because it needed closing off. I will not have Big G doing his usual last word nonsense.
Now we can put it to bed.
Seriously? I thought the whole point of this board was to interact with people, not to reply to them and expect no reply.
Let him have his final say as there are far bigger things to celebrate today
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
Service was excellent, Welby pitched it just right, Baroness Scotland read very movingly, Truss did ok but no better than any of us would have done - a bit mechanical tbh but understandable given the situation.
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
Caitlin Moran was dissing Truss within a few seconds of her reading. Because 'edgy'
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
Caitlin Moran was dissing Truss within a few seconds of her reading. Because 'edgy'
Stunning display by the Church, the Royal family, the Military and by London. We will not see the like again.
Quite. Charles's funeral should deliberately undershoot this one.
Wonder what London Bridge is for him. Mornington Crescent?
Weird to think that almost imminently, if not already, plans are being laid for London Bridge 2
It won't be the same, today's event was epic both here and globally.
Charles' funeral will likely be not much grander than that for the King of Sweden or the King of Spain
It will be far grander than those, albeit not as grand perhaps as this one. He will likely still be king of many realms and Britain still a major power
It won't be that much grander. Globally Charles will be King of far less realms than the Queen was when she was crowned and that is assuming no more get their own heads of state.
Britain is now only a midrank power, we were top 3 in 1953 when the Queen had her coronation. The Queen also reigned for 70 years and therefore also had a huge legacy, Charles will reign for 10 to 20 years at most
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
Caitlin Moran was dissing Truss within a few seconds of her reading. Because 'edgy'
Eye of the beholder and all that. As I said it was ok but that is all. Blair's reading at Diana's funeral, now that was impressive.
@HYUFD said “It was a marvellous tribute, both the funeral and procession, to a great woman who was respected in the UK and across the world for her dignity and service as our head of state.
However it was also the last ceremony in Britain which will likely ever be a truly global event and final act of imperial Britain reflecting the Queen being the last monarch of the British Empire.”
Charles and William's and indeed George's coronations and funerals will be big events but they will not be on this scale
Mr. Tubbs, wasn't Henry VII linked via the Beauforts, though?
I mean, if William the Bastard counts it seems churlish to criticise Henry VII's royal links.
Apparently some random woman in Yorkshire who works in dairy business would now be queen if the entirely legal stipulations in Henry VIII's will regarding succession had been observed.
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
Service was excellent, Welby pitched it just right, Baroness Scotland read very movingly, Truss did ok but no better than any of us would have done - a bit mechanical tbh but understandable given the situation.
I keep forgetting Liz Truss is actually PM. Fucking amazing really when you think about it.
Stunning display by the Church, the Royal family, the Military and by London. We will not see the like again.
Quite. Charles's funeral should deliberately undershoot this one.
Wonder what London Bridge is for him. Mornington Crescent?
Weird to think that almost imminently, if not already, plans are being laid for London Bridge 2
It won't be the same, today's event was epic both here and globally.
Charles' funeral will likely be not much grander than that for the King of Sweden or the King of Spain
It will be far grander than those, albeit not as grand perhaps as this one. He will likely still be king of many realms and Britain still a major power
It won't be that much grander. Globally Charles will be King of far less realms than the Queen was when she was crowned and that is assuming no more get their own heads of state.
Britain is also now only a midrank power, we were top 3 in 1953 when the Queen had her coronation. The Queen also reigned for 70 years and therefore also had a huge legacy, Charles will reign for 10 to 20 years at most
Yes it won't be as grand, but it will still be a grand affair.
Mr. Tubbs, wasn't Henry VII linked via the Beauforts, though?
I mean, if William the Bastard counts it seems churlish to criticise Henry VII's royal links.
Apparently some random woman in Yorkshire who works in dairy business would now be queen if the entirely legal stipulations in Henry VIII's will regarding succession had been observed.
Boris and Carrie Johnston barging past Theresa and Phillip May, only to be stopped by officials and made to obey the correct order of process. And now he's in full sulk
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
Service was excellent, Welby pitched it just right, Baroness Scotland read very movingly, Truss did ok but no better than any of us would have done - a bit mechanical tbh but understandable given the situation.
I think that is a wee bit of an exaggeration
The reading of scripture in front of a world-wide audience would have tested most
That was all rather impressive and somewhat moving.
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
Caitlin Moran was dissing Truss within a few seconds of her reading. Because 'edgy'
Moran is utterly ghastly
She thought she was being really funny. Utterly pointless. Its a fucking reading from the bible at a funeral, not an Oscar acceptance speech
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Yet few can't see it?
Although, they missed a trick. Should have had a single floral wreath of white roses on the coffin in the hearse saying:
"MA'AM"
Wonder what London Bridge is for him. Mornington Crescent?
So your premise is utter bollocks.
Edit: FWIW, I don't think Dynamo is a russian troll, just contrarian.
And dissent is heavily cracked down on.
This is an intolerable state of affairs
Suddenly a tiny bit tearful
Try doing the same in other countries with heads of state and government with no democratic legitimacy where dissent is heavily cracked down upon.
Twat
Yet silence from you, because he agrees with your politics.
You are pathetically partisan. I don't pretend.
You clearly were a Boy Scout or something in a past life, you do love to pretend to have authority where none exists. You're the definition of a Karen.
This bit on the roads is actually the most moving of all. The ordinary people of Britain turning out for their queen. Unscripted. Unpredictable. Yet here they are
And as for Truss, she is the elected leader of the party who have enough seats at Westminster to pass legislation.
As Gordon Brown had when he took over between elections.
We do not have a presidential system in the U.K.
It's a reality I'm still struggling with.
So moved today.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=zulus+sir+thousands+of+em&view=detail&mid=4040EF71C414ACD5535E4040EF71C414ACD5535E&FORM=VIRE
Now we can put it to bed.
However it was also the last ceremony in Britain which will likely ever be a truly global event and final act of imperial Britain reflecting the Queen being the last monarch of the British Empire.
Charles and William's and indeed George's coronations and funerals will be big events but they will not be on this scale
And, thank you - for everything.
Done.
Your tax cut will help poor people with 37p more a month.
*gets coat
We also have a King who is a constitutional monarch and let us not remember the republican Corbyn was trounced at the 2019 general election too. Now both Truss and Starmer as well as Davey have proclaimed their support for Charles as King
Phenomenal
Boris and Carrie Johnston barging past Theresa and Phillip May, only to be stopped by officials and made to obey the correct order of process. And now he's in full sulk
https://twitter.com/Cromwell606/status/1571791631472365569
Charles' funeral will likely be not much grander than that for the King of Sweden or the King of Spain
The pictures in HD were excellent. The service was excellent. Liz Truss did a great job. Welby could have droned on a little less but that aside, excellent.
There's something about the bagpipes: wistful, evocative, sad and yet inspiring.
Sweet Thames, run softly
I mean, if William the Bastard counts it seems churlish to criticise Henry VII's royal links.
Britain is now only a midrank power, we were top 3 in 1953 when the Queen had her coronation. The Queen also reigned for 70 years and therefore also had a huge legacy, Charles will reign for 10 to 20 years at most
The Beauforts do make exceptionally good cheese too. (Though that may be unrelated, I guess.)
QM was Tay Bridge, Philip was Forth Bridge.
Ominous sign for the global economy.
The reading of scripture in front of a world-wide audience would have tested most
“Hope is the alchemy that turns a life around”
Superb line. Just thrown out there