What is the bizarre connection between this greasy spoon in west london and Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine
If you know the backstory you’ll get it straight away. If you don’t you will need clues
Nicht der google!
Ok, first guess, anything to do with polonium?
Nope. Much more bizarre than that
Did Zelensky act in something filmed there?
That’s a clever guess. But no
But it is something strange like that. Except much stranger
I am bored so I cheated. Still don't see the link but what amazes is me is that google can accurately identify the place and isn't fooled by changes of colour and writing in the awning. Just as impressive to me as the dall e stuff.
You of all people should get this
I know the London end of the equation... ...and now the other one after more googling
There is pretty much no difference between Labour’s and Truss’s energy policy, save that Labour wanted a windfall tax for optics, and are rather more interested in finding conservation measures.
Both effectively want to put it on the never-never, which btw, is the right thing to do.
In the sprit of PB debate, I disagree with you. In fact you are totally wrong.
Energy firms take out government-backed loans to freeze bills, the loans would have to be repaid over 10 to 20 years. And you are calling it a freeze not a loan?
The Lib Dems are calling it a loan, to be paid back by working people, not a freeze.
Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey called for a "genuine freeze" of energy bills, saying it is "not right" that families and pensioners should be paying back a loan. He told BBC Breakfast on Tuesday: "What we're hearing from Downing Street, what you were referring to, isn't a freeze. It's a loan. "What they're saying is that families and pensioners should be paying this back for years to come. That's just not right. "We should be asking the oil and gas companies who are making tens of billions of pounds in profit they never expected to make because Putin invaded Ukraine, we should be asking them to pay some of that back so that we can afford to freeze people's bills without actually having the loan system that it's rumoured that Liz Truss wants." Asked if that is what he is expecting Ms Truss to introduce as leader, he said: "We just don't know, and this is my whole point. She's had weeks to tell us during the leadership election for the Tory party. And she didn't spell it out. "We put forward our alternative, our constructive alternative, which would be a genuine freeze on people's bills paid for by a one-off tax on the oil and gas companies who are making these super profits. That seems a fair approach."
The Queen needs to keep going for another one year and nine months to become the longest serving monarch of a sovereign state in history.
Even @TSE should get behind that. Not only does it keep his least favourite royal away from the throne, but she'd be beating a Frenchman.
Nope.
Beating France in things like this brings us no honour.
I’m not looking forward to the North Korean level of flag shagging and mewling when Brenda passes on.
The sycophancy will embarrass the Kim family.
The difference being it's a one off, so not actually similar.
Schedule a holiday on the announcement, even for fans it will be too much.
I have an agreement with work that the moment London Bridge falls down I’m switching off the internet and becoming a hermit for a month.
Grief will do that to a man
Can you not emigrate? I would. Any real property you think you own belongs to her, she is above and immune to the law which you practise, people only get to represent you in parliament by swearing allegiance to her, and you give half your income to her revenue and customs. It would drive me mad.
Ed Conway @EdConwaySky · 4h In case anyone was getting worried, UK not having any problems at all borrowing money in capital markets right now. Just raised £3.5bn of 3yr gilts at 3.2%. Cover ratio (this is important - it’s how many bids there were for each bond) pretty healthy at 2.6 times.
Yes! Truss will speak from an Apprentice Pillar-style lectern, similar to the one that Graham Brady the Old Lady spoke from (although his had Union Flag colouring on it) when he announced the result of the leadership election.
This is going to be one f*** of a premiership.
Johnson spoke from a more standard-looking lectern in the same place this morning.
Ed Conway @EdConwaySky · 4h In case anyone was getting worried, UK not having any problems at all borrowing money in capital markets right now. Just raised £3.5bn of 3yr gilts at 3.2%. Cover ratio (this is important - it’s how many bids there were for each bond) pretty healthy at 2.6 times.
That's good news tbh
Not sure it'll be as easy raising +100Bn.
Gloomster.
I'm just comparing my own chances of borrowing 100G, compared to 3500.
There is pretty much no difference between Labour’s and Truss’s energy policy, save that Labour wanted a windfall tax for optics, and are rather more interested in finding conservation measures.
Both effectively want to put it on the never-never, which btw, is the right thing to do.
In the sprit of PB debate, I disagree with you. In fact you are totally wrong.
Energy firms take out government-backed loans to freeze bills, the loans would have to be repaid over 10 to 20 years. And you are calling it a freeze not a loan?
The Lib Dems are calling it a loan, to be paid back by working people, not a freeze.
Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey called for a "genuine freeze" of energy bills, saying it is "not right" that families and pensioners should be paying back a loan. He told BBC Breakfast on Tuesday: "What we're hearing from Downing Street, what you were referring to, isn't a freeze. It's a loan. "What they're saying is that families and pensioners should be paying this back for years to come. That's just not right. "We should be asking the oil and gas companies who are making tens of billions of pounds in profit they never expected to make because Putin invaded Ukraine, we should be asking them to pay some of that back so that we can afford to freeze people's bills without actually having the loan system that it's rumoured that Liz Truss wants." Asked if that is what he is expecting Ms Truss to introduce as leader, he said: "We just don't know, and this is my whole point. She's had weeks to tell us during the leadership election for the Tory party. And she didn't spell it out. "We put forward our alternative, our constructive alternative, which would be a genuine freeze on people's bills paid for by a one-off tax on the oil and gas companies who are making these super profits. That seems a fair approach."
There are two camps right now with different expectations of Liz’s policy.
That cafe is George’s Cafe at 36 Blythe Road, Hammersmith
But in 1900 it was the headquarters and archive of the occult order of the Golden Dawn, and on April 19th 1900 it was the scene of a truly bizarre magical battle where Satanist and rapist Aleister Crowley, wearing full highland kilt and sporran, and a black mask of Osiris, marched down the street to seize the Magic archives from the Golden Dawn member inside, Nobel Laureate W B Yeats
With the use of spells and incantations, and a presumably bemused constable, Yeats fended off Crowley, preserving the archive and the order and expelling Crowley. Crowley therefore went on to develop his own magickal orders, and developed his own Chaos Magic, with lots of sex drugs and goat rape
The link with Putin?
Crowley is a direct inspiration for Alexander Dugin, Putin’s alleged guru (whose daughter was killed in a car bomb some weeks back)
Dugin incorporated lots of Crowley’s ideas about divine chaos into his works. The war in Ukraine can therefore be seen as a Crowleyan act, stemming from the bizarre battle on that Hammersmith street in the spring of 1900
First names of the last four finance ministers— France: Bruno, Michel, Pierre, François Germany: Christian, Olaf, Peter, Wolfgang Italy: Daniele, Roberto, Giovanni, Pier Carlo Britain: Kwasi, Nadhim, Rishi, Sajid
Whose finances are in best shape is perhaps the question to ask!
Debt as % GDP:
Italy: 151 France: 113 UK: 96 Germany: 69
Is that the measure that was UK under 40% in 2007 - before years of Austerity (for some) to bring it down! 🫣
Where would US be on that current list, if I have been paying attention, PBs St Bart the Pirate will comment here that 140% is actually no problem at all, only beyond that it goes squizzy.
So is St Bart the pirate actually right on this one, this is a pointless measure to use for economic health and strength? The Tory austerity years, the lasting impact of them in income divides, was not actually necessary?
????????
I have NEVER said that. In fact I've always said the exact opposite.
There is no specific debt to GDP number that "matters" but what matters far more is an overall look at the deficit, whether debt to GDP is going up or down, and where you are in the economic cycle.
You only know where you were in the "economic cycle" since it takes shape in retrospect.
Not true, a recession is a matter of record determined at the time, not in hindsight. Two consecutive quarters of negative growth. On average a recession occurs about once every eight to twelve years or so.
You can and do know how many years you are since the last recession as a matter of fact at the time. So eg in 2006/07 we were 15/16 years from the last recession and overdue a new one which then occurred the following year.
You know the past - all of the GDP fluctuations (eg when the last recession was) going back to when records began - but you don't know the equivalent for the future.
Also the fluctuations aren't of a fixed shape or size. Eg recessions are sometimes mild, sometimes severe, sometimes long, sometimes short, and they don't come along at predictable intervals like clockwork. Ditto with growth spurts.
Hence the notion that at a point in time you can with any precision whatsoever "know where you are in the economic cycle" is a bit of a nonsense.
That cafe is George’s Cafe at 36 Blythe Road, Hammersmith
But in 1900 it was the headquarters and archive of the occult order of the Golden Dawn, and on April 19th 1900 it was the scene of a truly bizarre magical battle where Satanist and rapist Aleister Crowley, wearing full highland kilt and sporran, and a black mask of Osiris, marched down the street to seize the Magic archives from the Golden Dawn member inside, Nobel Laureate W B Yeats
With the use of spells and incantations, and a presumably bemused constable, Yeats fended off Crowley, preserving the archive and the order and expelling Crowley. Crowley therefore went on to develop his own magickal orders, and developed his own Chaos Magic, with lots of sex drugs and goat rape
The link with Putin?
Crowley is a direct inspiration for Alexander Dugin, Putin’s alleged guru (whose daughter was killed in a car bomb some weeks back)
Dugin incorporated lots of Crowley’s ideas about divine chaos into his works. The war in Ukraine can therefore be seen as a Crowleyan act, stemming from the bizarre battle on that Hammersmith street in the spring of 1900
"Your gift survived it all" really nails old WB. Astonishing.
Why don’t you buy it up, convert it into a proper pilgrimage for sex-positive (and possibly Corbynista) young women, and serve pasteis de nata direct from the Alentejo?
That cafe is George’s Cafe at 36 Blythe Road, Hammersmith
But in 1900 it was the headquarters and archive of the occult order of the Golden Dawn, and on April 19th 1900 it was the scene of a truly bizarre magical battle where Satanist and rapist Aleister Crowley, wearing full highland kilt and sporran, and a black mask of Osiris, marched down the street to seize the Magic archives from the Golden Dawn member inside, Nobel Laureate W B Yeats
With the use of spells and incantations, and a presumably bemused constable, Yeats fended off Crowley, preserving the archive and the order and expelling Crowley. Crowley therefore went on to develop his own magickal orders, and developed his own Chaos Magic, with lots of sex drugs and goat rape
The link with Putin?
Crowley is a direct inspiration for Alexander Dugin, Putin’s alleged guru (whose daughter was killed in a car bomb some weeks back)
Dugin incorporated lots of Crowley’s ideas about divine chaos into his works. The war in Ukraine can therefore be seen as a Crowleyan act, stemming from the bizarre battle on that Hammersmith street in the spring of 1900
Why don’t you buy it up, convert it into a proper pilgrimage for sex-positive (and possibly Corbynista) young women, and serve pasteis de nata direct from the Alentejo?
it’s actually quite shocking it isn’t Blue Plaqued with a Preservation Order on it. The Golden Dawn have been hugely influential in all kinds of ways, this Putin thing is just the latest
And it is the last standing Dawn temple, but also the most important. One was knocked down in Fitzrovia just a couple of years ago
That cafe is George’s Cafe at 36 Blythe Road, Hammersmith
But in 1900 it was the headquarters and archive of the occult order of the Golden Dawn, and on April 19th 1900 it was the scene of a truly bizarre magical battle where Satanist and rapist Aleister Crowley, wearing full highland kilt and sporran, and a black mask of Osiris, marched down the street to seize the Magic archives from the Golden Dawn member inside, Nobel Laureate W B Yeats
With the use of spells and incantations, and a presumably bemused constable, Yeats fended off Crowley, preserving the archive and the order and expelling Crowley. Crowley therefore went on to develop his own magickal orders, and developed his own Chaos Magic, with lots of sex drugs and goat rape
The link with Putin?
Crowley is a direct inspiration for Alexander Dugin, Putin’s alleged guru (whose daughter was killed in a car bomb some weeks back)
Dugin incorporated lots of Crowley’s ideas about divine chaos into his works. The war in Ukraine can therefore be seen as a Crowleyan act, stemming from the bizarre battle on that Hammersmith street in the spring of 1900
"Your gift survived it all" really nails old WB. Astonishing.
Not really - look at all the nonsense the Nazis (Dugin's inspiration) got up to at Wewelsburg.
Why don’t you buy it up, convert it into a proper pilgrimage for sex-positive (and possibly Corbynista) young women, and serve pasteis de nata direct from the Alentejo?
it’s actually quite shocking it isn’t Blue Plaqued with a Preservation Order on it. The Golden Dawn have been hugely influential in all kinds of ways, this Putin thing is just the latest
And it is the last standing Dawn temple, but also the most important. One was knocked down in Fitzrovia just a couple of years ago
That cafe is George’s Cafe at 36 Blythe Road, Hammersmith
But in 1900 it was the headquarters and archive of the occult order of the Golden Dawn, and on April 19th 1900 it was the scene of a truly bizarre magical battle where Satanist and rapist Aleister Crowley, wearing full highland kilt and sporran, and a black mask of Osiris, marched down the street to seize the Magic archives from the Golden Dawn member inside, Nobel Laureate W B Yeats
With the use of spells and incantations, and a presumably bemused constable, Yeats fended off Crowley, preserving the archive and the order and expelling Crowley. Crowley therefore went on to develop his own magickal orders, and developed his own Chaos Magic, with lots of sex drugs and goat rape
The link with Putin?
Crowley is a direct inspiration for Alexander Dugin, Putin’s alleged guru (whose daughter was killed in a car bomb some weeks back)
Dugin incorporated lots of Crowley’s ideas about divine chaos into his works. The war in Ukraine can therefore be seen as a Crowleyan act, stemming from the bizarre battle on that Hammersmith street in the spring of 1900
Crowley didn't develop chaos magic.
“Chaos Magick is an innovation of twentieth-century occultism that draws influence from a variety of sources, including occultists such as Aleister Crowley and Austin Osman Spare”
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
The public want to see the energy companies suffer so the windfall tax does some of that . The Truss plan has tax payers effectively fully subsidizing them for the price freeze .
Why don’t you buy it up, convert it into a proper pilgrimage for sex-positive (and possibly Corbynista) young women, and serve pasteis de nata direct from the Alentejo?
it’s actually quite shocking it isn’t Blue Plaqued with a Preservation Order on it. The Golden Dawn have been hugely influential in all kinds of ways, this Putin thing is just the latest
And it is the last standing Dawn temple, but also the most important. One was knocked down in Fitzrovia just a couple of years ago
There is pretty much no difference between Labour’s and Truss’s energy policy, save that Labour wanted a windfall tax for optics, and are rather more interested in finding conservation measures.
Both effectively want to put it on the never-never, which btw, is the right thing to do.
In the sprit of PB debate, I disagree with you. In fact you are totally wrong.
Energy firms take out government-backed loans to freeze bills, the loans would have to be repaid over 10 to 20 years. And you are calling it a freeze not a loan?
The Lib Dems are calling it a loan, to be paid back by working people, not a freeze.
Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey called for a "genuine freeze" of energy bills, saying it is "not right" that families and pensioners should be paying back a loan. He told BBC Breakfast on Tuesday: "What we're hearing from Downing Street, what you were referring to, isn't a freeze. It's a loan. "What they're saying is that families and pensioners should be paying this back for years to come. That's just not right. "We should be asking the oil and gas companies who are making tens of billions of pounds in profit they never expected to make because Putin invaded Ukraine, we should be asking them to pay some of that back so that we can afford to freeze people's bills without actually having the loan system that it's rumoured that Liz Truss wants." Asked if that is what he is expecting Ms Truss to introduce as leader, he said: "We just don't know, and this is my whole point. She's had weeks to tell us during the leadership election for the Tory party. And she didn't spell it out. "We put forward our alternative, our constructive alternative, which would be a genuine freeze on people's bills paid for by a one-off tax on the oil and gas companies who are making these super profits. That seems a fair approach."
There are two camps right now with different expectations of Liz’s policy.
You are in a different camp to me.
Then join me, and together we can rule the PB universe…
I don’t understand PB today, you should all be able to see the acute difference in the politics of a freeze, to protect working peoples money, and a loan to protect the energy industries windfall profits, using working peoples money.
By going with the energy industry scheme to freeze prices at current levels, Liz is merely plugging the gap between wholesale costs and what consumers pay - Truss is actually bailing out the Energy industry, protecting them from contributing their windfall, by loaning them the working peoples money.
First names of the last four finance ministers— France: Bruno, Michel, Pierre, François Germany: Christian, Olaf, Peter, Wolfgang Italy: Daniele, Roberto, Giovanni, Pier Carlo Britain: Kwasi, Nadhim, Rishi, Sajid
Whose finances are in best shape is perhaps the question to ask!
Debt as % GDP:
Italy: 151 France: 113 UK: 96 Germany: 69
Is that the measure that was UK under 40% in 2007 - before years of Austerity (for some) to bring it down! 🫣
Where would US be on that current list, if I have been paying attention, PBs St Bart the Pirate will comment here that 140% is actually no problem at all, only beyond that it goes squizzy.
So is St Bart the pirate actually right on this one, this is a pointless measure to use for economic health and strength? The Tory austerity years, the lasting impact of them in income divides, was not actually necessary?
????????
I have NEVER said that. In fact I've always said the exact opposite.
There is no specific debt to GDP number that "matters" but what matters far more is an overall look at the deficit, whether debt to GDP is going up or down, and where you are in the economic cycle.
You only know where you were in the "economic cycle" since it takes shape in retrospect.
Not true, a recession is a matter of record determined at the time, not in hindsight. Two consecutive quarters of negative growth. On average a recession occurs about once every eight to twelve years or so.
You can and do know how many years you are since the last recession as a matter of fact at the time. So eg in 2006/07 we were 15/16 years from the last recession and overdue a new one which then occurred the following year.
You know the past - all of the GDP fluctuations (eg when the last recession was) going back to when records began - but you don't know the equivalent for the future.
Also the fluctuations aren't of a fixed shape or size. Eg recessions are sometimes mild, sometimes severe, sometimes long, sometimes short, and they don't come along at predictable intervals like clockwork. Ditto with growth spurts.
Hence the notion that at a point in time you can with any precision whatsoever "know where you are in the economic cycle" is a bit of a nonsense.
You can't know exactly where you are in the cycle as in T-x days until next recession, but you absolutely can know how long since last one and be prepared for the next exogenous shock as and when it inevitably happens.
PPPPPP: Piss Poor Preparation leads to Piss Poor Performance.
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
The public want to see the energy companies suffer so the windfall tax does some of that . The Truss plan has tax payers effectively fully subsidizing them for the price freeze .
Here is today's ruling removing Jan 6 defendant Couy Griffin from office under §3 of the 14th Amendment as an insurrectionist. 1st removal by a court since 1869. (Congress blocked someone after WW1.) https://bit.ly/3RIvHMn
Why don’t you buy it up, convert it into a proper pilgrimage for sex-positive (and possibly Corbynista) young women, and serve pasteis de nata direct from the Alentejo?
it’s actually quite shocking it isn’t Blue Plaqued with a Preservation Order on it. The Golden Dawn have been hugely influential in all kinds of ways, this Putin thing is just the latest
And it is the last standing Dawn temple, but also the most important. One was knocked down in Fitzrovia just a couple of years ago
Where was the Fitzrovian one?
Just off Great Portland St
Yeh but where? I’m pretty good on Fitrovian geography after a decent stint at the (now gone) Saatchi building.
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
Its almost as if its a cynical ploy to seed a thought in the electorates mind that bears no relation to anything either announced or that would deal with any significant % of the cost to cover up Labour's too early, too little, too narrow proposal
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
Big G back on message. For how long?
No wonder your compadres down Llandudno Conservative Club call you “Bun-G”.
I am asking genuine questions, and by the way I remain a non member of the party and have never been in any conservative club at anytime anywhere
Now please answer the question
Conservative clubs are packed with non-Tories. They can be quite nice (although it varies a fair bit) and tend to be good value. I was a member of one at one time.
I think the manager of the Honiton one publicly endorsed the Lib Dems at the by-election. The Lib Dems had some fun with it but, in fact, that's not at all unusual and he may well not have been a Tory even when he took the job.
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
The public want to see the energy companies suffer so the windfall tax does some of that . The Truss plan has tax payers effectively fully subsidizing them for the price freeze .
How much does it raise
Am I wrong on the £8 billion and a one off
Yup - because getting the Norwegians to pay a windfall tax on the price of the gas they sell us will prove... difficult.
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
There also seems to be little awareness of where the profits are being generated.....hint, not much of the companies you can nationalise...unless you're planning to renege on the 1971 Treaty with the Sheik of Qatar....
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
There also seems to be little awareness of where the profits are being generated.....hint, not much of the companies you can nationalise...unless you're planning to renege on the 1971 Treaty with the Sheik of Qatar....
Why don’t you buy it up, convert it into a proper pilgrimage for sex-positive (and possibly Corbynista) young women, and serve pasteis de nata direct from the Alentejo?
it’s actually quite shocking it isn’t Blue Plaqued with a Preservation Order on it. The Golden Dawn have been hugely influential in all kinds of ways, this Putin thing is just the latest
And it is the last standing Dawn temple, but also the most important. One was knocked down in Fitzrovia just a couple of years ago
Where was the Fitzrovian one?
Just off Great Portland St
Yeh but where? I’m pretty good on Fitrovian geography after a decent stint at the (now gone) Saatchi building.
In just a few moments time we could have a speech to rival the Speech to the Troops at Tilbury or the Gettysburg Address. Weirder things have happened. But not often.
There is pretty much no difference between Labour’s and Truss’s energy policy, save that Labour wanted a windfall tax for optics, and are rather more interested in finding conservation measures.
Both effectively want to put it on the never-never, which btw, is the right thing to do.
In the sprit of PB debate, I disagree with you. In fact you are totally wrong.
Energy firms take out government-backed loans to freeze bills, the loans would have to be repaid over 10 to 20 years. And you are calling it a freeze not a loan?
The Lib Dems are calling it a loan, to be paid back by working people, not a freeze.
Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey called for a "genuine freeze" of energy bills, saying it is "not right" that families and pensioners should be paying back a loan. He told BBC Breakfast on Tuesday: "What we're hearing from Downing Street, what you were referring to, isn't a freeze. It's a loan. "What they're saying is that families and pensioners should be paying this back for years to come. That's just not right. "We should be asking the oil and gas companies who are making tens of billions of pounds in profit they never expected to make because Putin invaded Ukraine, we should be asking them to pay some of that back so that we can afford to freeze people's bills without actually having the loan system that it's rumoured that Liz Truss wants." Asked if that is what he is expecting Ms Truss to introduce as leader, he said: "We just don't know, and this is my whole point. She's had weeks to tell us during the leadership election for the Tory party. And she didn't spell it out. "We put forward our alternative, our constructive alternative, which would be a genuine freeze on people's bills paid for by a one-off tax on the oil and gas companies who are making these super profits. That seems a fair approach."
There are two camps right now with different expectations of Liz’s policy.
You are in a different camp to me.
Then join me, and together we can rule the PB universe…
I don’t understand PB today, you should all be able to see the acute difference in the politics of a freeze, to protect working peoples money, and a loan to protect the energy industries windfall profits, using working peoples money.
By going with the energy industry scheme to freeze prices at current levels, Liz is merely plugging the gap between wholesale costs and what consumers pay - Truss is actually bailing out the Energy industry, protecting them from contributing their windfall, by loaning them the working peoples money.
And the difference between a plan that weights assistance more heavily to lower energy users and poorer homes whilst energy wasters and the more wealthy pay a bit more
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
Its almost as if its a cynical ploy to seed a thought in the electorates mind that bears no relation to anything either announced or that would deal with any significant % of the cost to cover up Labour's too early, too little, too narrow proposal
Labour say their 6 month freeze will cost 29 billion and it is made up with 8 billion windfall tax, 14 billion by cancelling October's £400 grant, and 7 billion on an assumption it will reduce inflation and borrowing costs
It is time this is challenged and I am content to be proven wrong if someone is able to do so
An emergency meeting between faith communities will be held tomorrow amid ongoing tension between Muslims and Hindus in Leicester. Reports of further violence follow an incident on the Golden Mile a week ago which was caught on camera.
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
Big G back on message. For how long?
No wonder your compadres down Llandudno Conservative Club call you “Bun-G”.
I am asking genuine questions, and by the way I remain a non member of the party and have never been in any conservative club at anytime anywhere
Now please answer the question
Conservative clubs are packed with non-Tories. They can be quite nice (although it varies a fair bit) and tend to be good value. I was a member of one at one time.
I think the manager of the Honiton one publicly endorsed the Lib Dems at the by-election. The Lib Dems had some fun with it but, in fact, that's not at all unusual and he may well not have been a Tory even when he took the job.
I do not mean to give a negative impression on con clubs, just I have not been in one
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
I’ll be straight with you Big G.
If it only costs £29B to cover the October and January jumps and the entire £29B comes from windfall tax, Ed Davey is absolutely right, it’s a freeze not Liz Truss loan.
More likely in my opinion, more than £29B needs to be poured into this, but where you and Truss are wrong, it's a matter of fairness. People are struggling at the moment. These companies have made profit that they never expected to make and therefore that redistribution is really important as part of the package. It is "unfair" for working-class people to bear the brunt of any energy company loan scheme that is being brought in by Liz Truss's incoming government.
That is where Truss and the Tory’s have got this spectacularly wrong.
There is pretty much no difference between Labour’s and Truss’s energy policy, save that Labour wanted a windfall tax for optics, and are rather more interested in finding conservation measures.
Both effectively want to put it on the never-never, which btw, is the right thing to do.
In the sprit of PB debate, I disagree with you. In fact you are totally wrong.
Energy firms take out government-backed loans to freeze bills, the loans would have to be repaid over 10 to 20 years. And you are calling it a freeze not a loan?
The Lib Dems are calling it a loan, to be paid back by working people, not a freeze.
Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey called for a "genuine freeze" of energy bills, saying it is "not right" that families and pensioners should be paying back a loan. He told BBC Breakfast on Tuesday: "What we're hearing from Downing Street, what you were referring to, isn't a freeze. It's a loan. "What they're saying is that families and pensioners should be paying this back for years to come. That's just not right. "We should be asking the oil and gas companies who are making tens of billions of pounds in profit they never expected to make because Putin invaded Ukraine, we should be asking them to pay some of that back so that we can afford to freeze people's bills without actually having the loan system that it's rumoured that Liz Truss wants." Asked if that is what he is expecting Ms Truss to introduce as leader, he said: "We just don't know, and this is my whole point. She's had weeks to tell us during the leadership election for the Tory party. And she didn't spell it out. "We put forward our alternative, our constructive alternative, which would be a genuine freeze on people's bills paid for by a one-off tax on the oil and gas companies who are making these super profits. That seems a fair approach."
There are two camps right now with different expectations of Liz’s policy.
You are in a different camp to me.
Then join me, and together we can rule the PB universe…
I don’t understand PB today, you should all be able to see the acute difference in the politics of a freeze, to protect working peoples money, and a loan to protect the energy industries windfall profits, using working peoples money.
By going with the energy industry scheme to freeze prices at current levels, Liz is merely plugging the gap between wholesale costs and what consumers pay - Truss is actually bailing out the Energy industry, protecting them from contributing their windfall, by loaning them the working peoples money.
And the difference between a plan that weights assistance more heavily to lower energy users and poorer homes whilst energy wasters and the more wealthy pay a bit more
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
I’ll be straight with you Big G.
If it only costs £29B to cover the October and January jumps and the entire £29B comes from windfall tax, Ed Davey is absolutely right, it’s a freeze not Liz Truss loan.
More likely in my opinion, more than £29B needs to be poured into this, but where you and Truss are wrong, it's a matter of fairness. People are struggling at the moment. These companies have made profit that they never expected to make and therefore that redistribution is really important as part of the package. It is "unfair" for working-class people to bear the brunt of any energy company loan scheme that is being brought in by Liz Truss's incoming government.
That is where Truss and the Tory’s have got this spectacularly wrong.
The 29 billion does not come from the windfall tax
It seems the only response from Labour spokespersons today has been a windfall tax will pay
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
Its almost as if its a cynical ploy to seed a thought in the electorates mind that bears no relation to anything either announced or that would deal with any significant % of the cost to cover up Labour's too early, too little, too narrow proposal
Labour say their 6 month freeze will cost 29 billion and it is made up with 8 billion windfall tax, 14 billion by cancelling October's £400 grant, and 7 billion on an assumption it will reduce inflation and borrowing costs
It is time this is challenged and I am content to be proven wrong if someone is able to do so
Besides, if Bloombergs analysis is correct and these actions proposed mean inflation goes no further and drifts back to the 2% target and we avoid recession then the benefit to the economy will outweigh the 4 and sixpence we raise by extending a windfall tax that already bloody exists!
What is the bizarre connection between this greasy spoon in west london and Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine
If you know the backstory you’ll get it straight away. If you don’t you will need clues
Nicht der google!
Ok, first guess, anything to do with polonium?
Nope. Much more bizarre than that
Did Zelensky act in something filmed there?
That’s a clever guess. But no
But it is something strange like that. Except much stranger
I am bored so I cheated. Still don't see the link but what amazes is me is that google can accurately identify the place and isn't fooled by changes of colour and writing in the awning. Just as impressive to me as the dall e stuff.
Yes I find that ability almost sinister
Techno fail from me yesterday - not my fault either but the tech's fault.
I had this stirring tune on the brain, thought it might be the theme from either the Big Country or the Magnificent Seven but I wasn't sure - so I decided to try out this "app" which supposedly tells you what a tune is if you hum it into your phone.
Off I went, felt a bit silly but I did it ... "do do, do do do doo, do do, do do do doo, do do do do do do do doo, do do do do do do, da dat da da, dat da da da da ..."
Etc.
Did it nicely (since I can hold a tune) and yet all the "app" could do was get fixated by the "da doo" sounds and suggest, not a stirring theme from a western, but that pop song by the Police - "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da".
Comments
"Cornwall’s second home owners are being urged to #DonateTheRebate, as it’s revealed they will get £5.4million in energy rebates this autumn..."
It could perhaps be an idea not to give second home owners the rebate in the first place.
...and now the other one after more googling
She came across a very old (empty ) England's Glory match box by Bryant and May which states on the back
Notice in government office
'Executives without a secretary may take advantage of the typists in the typing pool'
The days of innocent comments are long gone !!!!!
Energy firms take out government-backed loans to freeze bills, the loans would have to be repaid over 10 to 20 years. And you are calling it a freeze not a loan?
The Lib Dems are calling it a loan, to be paid back by working people, not a freeze.
Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey called for a "genuine freeze" of energy bills, saying it is "not right" that families and pensioners should be paying back a loan.
He told BBC Breakfast on Tuesday: "What we're hearing from Downing Street, what you were referring to, isn't a freeze. It's a loan.
"What they're saying is that families and pensioners should be paying this back for years to come. That's just not right.
"We should be asking the oil and gas companies who are making tens of billions of pounds in profit they never expected to make because Putin invaded Ukraine, we should be asking them to pay some of that back so that we can afford to freeze people's bills without actually having the loan system that it's rumoured that Liz Truss wants."
Asked if that is what he is expecting Ms Truss to introduce as leader, he said: "We just don't know, and this is my whole point. She's had weeks to tell us during the leadership election for the Tory party. And she didn't spell it out.
"We put forward our alternative, our constructive alternative, which would be a genuine freeze on people's bills paid for by a one-off tax on the oil and gas companies who are making these super profits. That seems a fair approach."
Can you not emigrate? I would. Any real property you think you own belongs to her, she is above and immune to the law which you practise, people only get to represent you in parliament by swearing allegiance to her, and you give half your income to her revenue and customs. It would drive me mad.
This is going to be one f*** of a premiership.
Johnson spoke from a more standard-looking lectern in the same place this morning.
You are in a different camp to me.
But in 1900 it was the headquarters and archive of the occult order of the Golden Dawn, and on April 19th 1900 it was the scene of a truly bizarre magical battle where Satanist and rapist Aleister Crowley, wearing full highland kilt and sporran, and a black mask of Osiris, marched down the street to seize the Magic archives from the Golden Dawn member inside, Nobel Laureate W B Yeats
With the use of spells and incantations, and a presumably bemused constable, Yeats fended off Crowley, preserving the archive and the order and expelling Crowley. Crowley therefore went on to develop his own magickal orders, and developed his own Chaos Magic, with lots of sex drugs and goat rape
The link with Putin?
Crowley is a direct inspiration for Alexander Dugin, Putin’s alleged guru (whose daughter was killed in a car bomb some weeks back)
Here is Dugin celebrating Crowley
https://youtu.be/cF3NBLvaXZo
Dugin incorporated lots of Crowley’s ideas about divine chaos into his works. The war in Ukraine can therefore be seen as a Crowleyan act, stemming from the bizarre battle on that Hammersmith street in the spring of 1900
Has this been the case for a while, or is it Truss’s first act as a Lib Dem sleeper agent?
Also the fluctuations aren't of a fixed shape or size. Eg recessions are sometimes mild, sometimes severe, sometimes long, sometimes short, and they don't come along at predictable intervals like clockwork. Ditto with growth spurts.
Hence the notion that at a point in time you can with any precision whatsoever "know where you are in the economic cycle" is a bit of a nonsense.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/36-blythe-road
I hear the cafe is disappointing
OMg they should totally do “goat curry”
Will Labour or indeed anyone confirm just how much a windfall tax will raise as I believe it is around £8 billion at most and a one off
No wonder your compadres down Llandudno Conservative Club call you “Bun-G”.
And it is the last standing Dawn temple, but also the most important. One was knocked down in Fitzrovia just a couple of years ago
Now please answer the question
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/contemporary-esotericism/perennialism-and-iconoclasm-chaos-magick-and-the-legitimacy-of-innovation/63ADA8C3487FDBC18284D062CD78F6C9
Not that it’s my question to answer.
I don’t understand PB today, you should all be able to see the acute difference in the politics of a freeze, to protect working peoples money, and a loan to protect the energy industries windfall profits, using working peoples money.
By going with the energy industry scheme to freeze prices at current levels, Liz is merely plugging the gap between wholesale costs and what consumers pay - Truss is actually bailing out the Energy industry, protecting them from contributing their windfall, by loaning them the working peoples money.
PPPPPP: Piss Poor Preparation leads to Piss Poor Performance.
Am I wrong on the £8 billion and a one off
I’m pretty good on Fitrovian geography after a decent stint at the (now gone) Saatchi building.
(And why is the veil getting so THIN today?)
The second question is rhetorical.
I think the manager of the Honiton one publicly endorsed the Lib Dems at the by-election. The Lib Dems had some fun with it but, in fact, that's not at all unusual and he may well not have been a Tory even when he took the job.
UAE
Norway
Nigeria
etc
What should we call this?
https://books.google.com/books/about/Tarot_Time_Traveller.html?id=CDE5DwAAQBAJ
Something to do with Karl Marx?
Suggesting she realises where she's weak.
It is time this is challenged and I am content to be proven wrong if someone is able to do so
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/emergency-meeting-discuss-ongoing-tension-7549003
An emergency meeting between faith communities will be held tomorrow amid ongoing tension between Muslims and Hindus in Leicester. Reports of further violence follow an incident on the Golden Mile a week ago which was caught on camera.
I love these puzzles, and London is full of hidden gems like this
Chief whip Wendy Morton and DPM Therese Coffey arrive in street to greet PM.
If it only costs £29B to cover the October and January jumps and the entire £29B comes from windfall tax, Ed Davey is absolutely right, it’s a freeze not Liz Truss loan.
More likely in my opinion, more than £29B needs to be poured into this, but where you and Truss are wrong, it's a matter of fairness. People are struggling at the moment. These companies have made profit that they never expected to make and therefore that redistribution is really important as part of the package. It is "unfair" for working-class people to bear the brunt of any energy company loan scheme that is being brought in by Liz Truss's incoming government.
That is where Truss and the Tory’s have got this spectacularly wrong.
And that’s precisely where the nuclear bomb was invented. Superb
///kaboom.lesbian.bloomsbury
Falcon.
Made by Marcel Dassault (or rather his firm).
EU-tech.
Maybe Edgware Road was deemed a security risk? Or roadworks?
Irrespective of whether it is the correct answer,
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/leo-szilard-a-traffic-light-and-a-slice-of-nuclear-history/
With respect that is fake news
I had this stirring tune on the brain, thought it might be the theme from either the Big Country or the Magnificent Seven but I wasn't sure - so I decided to try out this "app" which supposedly tells you what a tune is if you hum it into your phone.
Off I went, felt a bit silly but I did it ... "do do, do do do doo, do do, do do do doo, do do do do do do do doo, do do do do do do, da dat da da, dat da da da da ..."
Etc.
Did it nicely (since I can hold a tune) and yet all the "app" could do was get fixated by the "da doo" sounds and suggest, not a stirring theme from a western, but that pop song by the Police - "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da".
Really poor.
10 minutes of rain max.