Boris has now officially seen the Queen at Balmoral and resigned as PM. So for a while we are now PM less until Truss arrives with executive power in the hands of the Queen until then who is head of government as well as head of state until she appoints a new PM to act as head of her government
She should secretly declare war on Lichtenstein and their obvious allies-in-evil Cape Verde
Except it's not true and Johnson obviously stayed as prime minister until Truss was appointed. There's when a resignation is accepted and there's when departure from office comes into effect.
So..... no war with the Lichtenstein/Verde stormtroopers?? Ffs
We share an anthem with Lichtenstein, it wouldnt be right.
Tommies in First World War trenches were sometimes confused by the old German anthem Heil dir im Siegerkranz wafting over no man's land. You might recognise the tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_1SbOoPS2U
For a former Lib Dem, republican Remainer that's quite a turn around!
You do know that you don't have to read the NYT if it annoys you.
Very short odds on bet that there are PBers who have a subscription to the NYT and the Natonal as they hilariously title it.
I have a sub for the NYT partly because it is ludicrously cheap (50p a week) and partly because I like to read an intelligent new take on things - from a different perspective. And when the NYT isn’t discussing Britain or Culture War crap it can be insightful and enlightening
Also the arts, tv and cooking and sports coverage is pretty good. Certainly worth 50p a week
Boris has now officially seen the Queen at Balmoral and resigned as PM. So for a while we are now PM less until Truss arrives with executive power in the hands of the Queen until then who is head of government as well as head of state until she appoints a new PM to act as head of her government
She should secretly declare war on Lichtenstein and their obvious allies-in-evil Cape Verde
Except it's not true and Johnson obviously stayed as prime minister until Truss was appointed. There's when a resignation is accepted and there's when departure from office comes into effect.
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
On topic, although Sunak topped the ballot of Tory MPs he did not get a majority of them to back him either and most Tory MPs have now endorsed Truss after she gained support from some Mordaunt MPs for example.
Truss' membership support was not overwhelming however, she got only 57% of Tory members to back her, which while clear was far less than the 67% of Tory members who voted for Cameron in 2005 and the 66% who voted for Boris in 2019 and even less than the 60% who voted for IDS in 2001.
It was though about the same as the 56% of Labour members who voted for Starmer in 2020 and actually slightly more than the 49% of Labour members who voted for Corbyn in 2015, though less than the 59% of Labour members who voted to re elect Corbyn in 2016
“ and most Tory MPs have now endorsed Truss after she gained support from some Mordaunt MPs for example.”
PBs St Bart used the same laughable spin - truth is it was only after the greasy polers saw how the wind was blowing 🙂
You are wrong, Mike Smithson is right - Truss struggles in all MP Ballots reflect how her crap skills set and policy outlook is not rated at all by her MPs.
And not liked by her membership either, as she got less than 50% to endorse her despite being clear winner for weeks - and if it had been two horse race with discredited and barmy Boris she would have been soundly beaten by him is the truth here.
Boris would have beaten Truss with the membership yes, as would Badenoch
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
For a former Lib Dem, republican Remainer that's quite a turn around!
The colonisation of the NYT by the British Remainer mindset is one of the strangest evolutions in journalism
Frankly, if I was a NYT reader in America I’d be somewhat bored of this neurosis by now
It was long before that - when the UK rejected Brown (who was closely tied in with East Coast Democrats) and elected the Coalition, the NYT took the "Austerity" (cutting the rate of growth in spending to below the rate of growth of the economy) as an insult to Obamanomics (borrow your way out of trouble).
Yes, ideologically the NYT are liberal Democrats and would be Brownite or Starmerite Labour in UK terms
Yep - there are a number of positions where Truss's comments over the past month have made the job a poison chalice that no-one wishes to be anywhere near...
Boris has now officially seen the Queen at Balmoral and resigned as PM. So for a while we are now PM less until Truss arrives with executive power in the hands of the Queen until then who is head of government as well as head of state until she appoints a new PM to act as head of her government
She should secretly declare war on Lichtenstein and their obvious allies-in-evil Cape Verde
Except it's not true and Johnson obviously stayed as prime minister until Truss was appointed. There's when a resignation is accepted and there's when departure from office comes into effect.
No, BigG is correct, the PM is only the Queen's chief minister, when a PM resigns, until the Queen appoints a new PM she is technically head of her own government as well as head of State
Boris has now officially seen the Queen at Balmoral and resigned as PM. So for a while we are now PM less until Truss arrives with executive power in the hands of the Queen until then who is head of government as well as head of state until she appoints a new PM to act as head of her government
She should secretly declare war on Lichtenstein and their obvious allies-in-evil Cape Verde
Except it's not true and Johnson obviously stayed as prime minister until Truss was appointed. There's when a resignation is accepted and there's when departure from office comes into effect.
So..... no war with the Lichtenstein/Verde stormtroopers?? Ffs
We share an anthem with Lichtenstein, it wouldnt be right.
On the other hand, we could learn from Putin to pick on a country that we could beat.
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
I just find these polls pointless as Truss has not even announced her proposals
The time to view polls is late September and into October after the party conferences
I do agree we will not really be able to tell until Truss has at least been in office for a week and probably a month whether she has got a bounce or not
On topic, although Sunak topped the ballot of Tory MPs he did not get a majority of them to back him either and most Tory MPs have now endorsed Truss after she gained support from some Mordaunt MPs for example.
Truss' membership support was not overwhelming however, she got only 57% of Tory members to back her, which while clear was far less than the 67% of Tory members who voted for Cameron in 2005 and the 66% who voted for Boris in 2019 and even less than the 60% who voted for IDS in 2001.
It was though about the same as the 56% of Labour members who voted for Starmer in 2020 and actually slightly more than the 49% of Labour members who voted for Corbyn in 2015, though less than the 59% of Labour members who voted to re elect Corbyn in 2016
“ and most Tory MPs have now endorsed Truss after she gained support from some Mordaunt MPs for example.”
PBs St Bart used the same laughable spin - truth is it was only after the greasy polers saw how the wind was blowing 🙂
You are wrong, Mike Smithson is right - Truss struggles in all MP Ballots reflect how her crap skills set and policy outlook is not rated at all by her MPs.
And not liked by her membership either, as she got less than 50% to endorse her despite being clear winner for weeks - and if it had been two horse race with discredited and barmy Boris she would have been soundly beaten by him is the truth here.
Boris would have beaten Truss with the membership yes, as would Badenoch
Although I am not voting Tory at this stage in my life (right wing populism is not Conservative enough for me) I am sure I understand how you feel - you pointed out swapping Truss in for Boris is stupid and would result in this meltdown with no comeback six months before they actually did it! So I am sorry this has happened to you. Of course all the lefty’s on here and in the country wanted Boris out the way and are far happier with Truss - it speaks volumes - but they will tell you Boris had to go, part of their hatred was, he was a winner, but in terms of getting swingback as midterm drew to a close, Boris was still the better option for the Tories, if that is the only factor which matters.
Hearing that Jacob Rees Mogg is expected to take on the role of business secretary *and* the junior minister's responsibilities of energy and climate change later today
There is a slim chance at this point that Truss can't actually put together a functioning cabinet...
Got to say that Junior Energy and Climate Change Minister reporting to JRM sounds like the worst job possible....
What you wouldn't fancy being patronised to within an inch of your life on a daily basis by a facetious toffee-nosed ignoramus?
You would take the job purely so that on first meeting you could throw your hat at him and then fake apologise for mistaking him for an antique hatstand.
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
I just find these polls pointless as Truss has not even announced her proposals
The time to view polls is late September and into October after the party conferences
These polls are quite usefull to Truss and the Conservatives. Suppose the polls in mid October show a 7-10 point lead for labour, they can say that "on the morning Truss took over Labour, had a 15 point lead and Truss clearly has the momentum".
So the Queen has now done her job and replaced Boris as PM with Truss.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
Time was when a departing PM would be left to their own devices to return from the Palace after resigning (no longer being entitled to a government car as no longer being part of the government).
It would have been mildly amusing to have seen Johnson marooned in the Highlands.
The new secretaries of state for Trade, Transport, Education and Culture have proved the most problematic to fill, according to a senior Government source.
“Kemi and Penny have been difficult. They both think they have enough clout to hold out for something better than what they have been offered,” they said.
“Kemi was offered Transport but didn’t want it. And there was the question about whether Nadine would carry on. Now she has resigned so that frees up the space.”
“Giving Culture or Education to Kemi would give her too much of a platform,” the source explained, given how vocal she has been on issues of culture wars and free speech.
Kemi would have been a perfect Truss Home Secretary - big promotion, can’t be seen as a slight, sort of aligns with Kemi’s positioning, but is a poisoned chalice.
Unfortunately for Truss she’s got to repay the debt to the ERG by giving that gig to Suella…
This will be a long thread covering the probable Russian closing of gas to Europe and limited ability of Russia to reroute this to China with their current gas infrastructure.
So the Queen has now done her job and replaced Boris as PM with Truss.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Time to get on board and give her your full support
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
Hearing that Jacob Rees Mogg is expected to take on the role of business secretary *and* the junior minister's responsibilities of energy and climate change later today
@Nigel_Farage The Tories will lose next election unless Liz Truss stops the Channel invasion, makes us energy independent & boosts the economy by helping small business.
It is in the national interest for her to succeed on these things.
Sounds like a dogs dinner - Truss listened to the energy fat cats and did what they wanted, whilst Lib Dems and Labour listened to the voters.
Isn't it the same as Labour's plan plus an additional £400 handout?
No, there were two very different types of freeze, the one Labour put forward, the cheaper for the nation, and the counter proposal from the energy fat cats who didn’t like how they would be hurt more under Labours proposal.
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
I just find these polls pointless as Truss has not even announced her proposals
The time to view polls is late September and into October after the party conferences
I thought going on in great detail about Scttish subsamples got someone banned from PB?
Cannot see labour getting beyond 40 % in a general election, the important figure as always is the Tory %, if they get in the low 30s % wise, they are in real trouble
So the Queen has now done her job and replaced Boris as PM with Truss.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Time to get on board and give her your full support
I will give her my support as I have given every new Tory leader my support since I joined the party under William Hague, even when you were voting for Blair and New Labour
Time was when a departing PM would be left to their own devices to return from the Palace after resigning (no longer being entitled to a government car as no longer being part of the government).
It would have been mildly amusing to have seen Johnson marooned in the Highlands.
Time was when a departing PM would be left to their own devices to return from the Palace after resigning (no longer being entitled to a government car as no longer being part of the government).
It would have been mildly amusing to have seen Johnson marooned in the Highlands.
IIRC that’s what Theresa May did, at her Chequers EU summit, while trying to find a way to get her party to support what they’d rejected twice already.
She said that anyone who resigned would have to call a cab, because they wouldn’t be leaving in a government car.
Presumably, Johnson will today go back to London on the plane that bought him - a ‘royal’ military plane rather than a ‘government’ plane?
Sounds like a dogs dinner - Truss listened to the energy fat cats and did what they wanted, whilst Lib Dems and Labour listened to the voters.
Isn't it the same as Labour's plan plus an additional £400 handout?
No, there were two very different types of freeze, the one Labour put forward, the cheaper for the nation, and the counter proposal from the energy fat cats who didn’t like how they would be hurt more under Labours proposal.
So the Queen has now done her job and replaced Boris as PM with Truss.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Time to get on board and give her your full support
I will give her my support as I have given every new Tory leader my support since I joined the party under William Hague, even when you were voting for Blair and New Labour
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
First time HMQ has had an audience with a PM who once advocated removing her. #Awks
When you think for a moment about the people HM the Queen has had to meet and shake hands with over the last 70 years, a meeting with any sort of peaceful liberal minded constitutional democrat is going to be fairly simple.
So the Queen has now done her job and replaced Boris as PM with Truss.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Time to get on board and give her your full support
I will give her my support as I have given every new Tory leader my support since I joined the party under William Hague, even when you were voting for Blair and New Labour
They have upgraded your software already? That was quick!
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
So the Queen has now done her job and replaced Boris as PM with Truss.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Time to get on board and give her your full support
I will give her my support as I have given every new Tory leader my support since I joined the party under William Hague, even when you were voting for Blair and New Labour
"MY PARTY RIGHT OR WRONG!"
Many, many people are like this, on all sides. How many are "Always Labour round here" types? Or southern rural Tory voters? I'd argue that floating voters are in the minority.
First time HMQ has had an audience with a PM who once advocated removing her. #Awks
A PM yes but she met Foot and Corbyn for example on occasion who were leaders of the Opposition and still republicans at the time, Truss says she is now an ex republican who values our constitutional monarchy
First time HMQ has had an audience with a PM who once advocated removing her. #Awks
When you think for a moment about the people HM the Queen has had to meet and shake hands with over the last 70 years, a meeting with any sort of peaceful liberal minded constitutional democrat is going to be fairly simple.
She's met tons of republicans over the years. Australian PMs come to mind...
Sounds like a dogs dinner - Truss listened to the energy fat cats and did what they wanted, whilst Lib Dems and Labour listened to the voters.
Isn't it the same as Labour's plan plus an additional £400 handout?
No, there were two very different types of freeze, the one Labour put forward, the cheaper for the nation, and the counter proposal from the energy fat cats who didn’t like how they would be hurt more under Labours proposal.
What? They are basically the same.
Not at all, very different, especially In overall cost to the nation - the Energy Fat Cat proposal Truss has agreed with, the energy’s company’s get the governments bung and much less of a hit on their profits. The Libdem and Labour proposal and the Tory policy are chalk and cheese under the bonnet.
First time HMQ has had an audience with a PM who once advocated removing her. #Awks
A PM yes but she met Foot and Corbyn for example on occasion who were leaders of the Opposition and still republicans at the time, Truss says she is now an ex republican who values our constitutional monarchy
The problem with Truss is that is only what she believes this week. Who knows what she will believe next week.
That's a dumb way to do it. Spending the same money on expanding the £400 handout would make much more sense as the market price signal would be much better preserved, and thus people would be much more incentivsed to insulate properties, turn down their thermostats, install Solar PV and/or logburners (I'm currently installing my logburner that's been waiting for me to get round to it for the last 5 years).
On topic, although Sunak topped the ballot of Tory MPs he did not get a majority of them to back him either and most Tory MPs have now endorsed Truss after she gained support from some Mordaunt MPs for example.
Truss' membership support was not overwhelming however, she got only 57% of Tory members to back her, which while clear was far less than the 67% of Tory members who voted for Cameron in 2005 and the 66% who voted for Boris in 2019 and even less than the 60% who voted for IDS in 2001.
It was though about the same as the 56% of Labour members who voted for Starmer in 2020 and actually slightly more than the 49% of Labour members who voted for Corbyn in 2015, though less than the 59% of Labour members who voted to re elect Corbyn in 2016
“ and most Tory MPs have now endorsed Truss after she gained support from some Mordaunt MPs for example.”
PBs St Bart used the same laughable spin - truth is it was only after the greasy polers saw how the wind was blowing 🙂
You are wrong, Mike Smithson is right - Truss struggles in all MP Ballots reflect how her crap skills set and policy outlook is not rated at all by her MPs.
And not liked by her membership either, as she got less than 50% to endorse her despite being clear winner for weeks - and if it had been two horse race with discredited and barmy Boris she would have been soundly beaten by him is the truth here.
Boris would have beaten Truss with the membership yes, as would Badenoch
Although I am not voting Tory at this stage in my life (right wing populism is not Conservative enough for me) I am sure I understand how you feel - you pointed out swapping Truss in for Boris is stupid and would result in this meltdown with no comeback six months before they actually did it! So I am sorry this has happened to you. Of course all the lefty’s on here and in the country wanted Boris out the way and are far happier with Truss - it speaks volumes - but they will tell you Boris had to go, part of their hatred was, he was a winner, but in terms of getting swingback as midterm drew to a close, Boris was still the better option for the Tories, if that is the only factor which matters.
Indeed, the lefties and liberals on here of course are much happier with Truss than Boris, however none of them will vote for Truss over Starmer or Davey.
Yougov today though has 19% of 2019 Tory voters now switching to Labour as Boris departs
The new secretaries of state for Trade, Transport, Education and Culture have proved the most problematic to fill, according to a senior Government source.
“Kemi and Penny have been difficult. They both think they have enough clout to hold out for something better than what they have been offered,” they said.
“Kemi was offered Transport but didn’t want it. And there was the question about whether Nadine would carry on. Now she has resigned so that frees up the space.”
“Giving Culture or Education to Kemi would give her too much of a platform,” the source explained, given how vocal she has been on issues of culture wars and free speech.
Kemi would have been a perfect Truss Home Secretary - big promotion, can’t be seen as a slight, sort of aligns with Kemi’s positioning, but is a poisoned chalice.
Unfortunately for Truss she’s got to repay the debt to the ERG by giving that gig to Suella…
I suspect Braverman is going to be quite similar to Patel. They have a very similar political style. Patel was possibly slightly better at rousing the masses.
Sounds like a dogs dinner - Truss listened to the energy fat cats and did what they wanted, whilst Lib Dems and Labour listened to the voters.
Isn't it the same as Labour's plan plus an additional £400 handout?
No, there were two very different types of freeze, the one Labour put forward, the cheaper for the nation, and the counter proposal from the energy fat cats who didn’t like how they would be hurt more under Labours proposal.
What? They are basically the same.
Not at all, very different, especially In overall cost to the nation - the Energy Fat Cat proposal Truss has agreed with, the energy’s company’s get the governments bung and much less of a hit on their profits.
I think you are just being silly at this point. The proposals are the same in how they are implemented, just Truss' is over a longer period, and comes with an extra £400.
Sounds like a dogs dinner - Truss listened to the energy fat cats and did what they wanted, whilst Lib Dems and Labour listened to the voters.
Isn't it the same as Labour's plan plus an additional £400 handout?
No, there were two very different types of freeze, the one Labour put forward, the cheaper for the nation, and the counter proposal from the energy fat cats who didn’t like how they would be hurt more under Labours proposal.
What? They are basically the same.
Not at all, very different, especially In overall cost to the nation - the Energy Fat Cat proposal Truss has agreed with, the energy’s company’s get the governments bung and much less of a hit on their profits. The Libdem and Labour proposal and the Tory policy are chalk and cheese under the bonnet.
Do you care about the effect on the public, or do you care about spouting divisive nonsense, trying to play the politics of envy?
Why is Truss allowed to escape Republicanism but Keir isn't
Sir Keir is, at least for me, he now says he supports a reformed monarchy so I take him at his word. As a knight of the realm I would expect nothing less
So the Queen has now done her job and replaced Boris as PM with Truss.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Time to get on board and give her your full support
I will give her my support as I have given every new Tory leader my support since I joined the party under William Hague, even when you were voting for Blair and New Labour
"MY PARTY RIGHT OR WRONG!"
Many, many people are like this, on all sides. How many are "Always Labour round here" types? Or southern rural Tory voters? I'd argue that floating voters are in the minority.
Oh well, I voted Labour in 1997 and 2015, LibDem in 2001 and 2005, and Tory in 2010, 2017 and 2019.
Labour now open up a 12% lead in the Midlands and Wales, a 26% point lead in the North and a 35% lead in London. Labour even 4% ahead in the South.
However the Tories up to 22% in the Yougov Scottish subsample, with the SNP on 46% and Labour on 20%.
So so far the main swing to the Tories with a looming Truss premiership is in Scotland, everywhere else has swung further to Labour. However the poll was taken before she became PM so we need a week or so to see if she gets any bounce
I just find these polls pointless as Truss has not even announced her proposals
The time to view polls is late September and into October after the party conferences
I am not convinced by your argument - in fact you are being very rude to everyday voters and people to be honest. the idea voters haven’t a clue today what Truss and Kwarzy are going to do yet, so we need to wait - The whole point of two months of campaigning is to sell yourself and your approach to things - which Truss has done, and it is reflected in these polls. Not only that, voters should be able to draw on a fair idea about politicians strengths weaknesses etc from politics before campaign even started, this too is reflected in this Tory poll collapse.
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IMO another potentially missed opportunity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_1SbOoPS2U
Also the arts, tv and cooking and sports coverage is pretty good. Certainly worth 50p a week
The National? HAHAHAHAHA no
Rishi'sHMG's £400 handout?https://fullfact.org/economy/labour-energy-bills-plan/
Last I checked (admittedly a year or more ago) our debt interest payments were already £55bn or thereabouts.
This isn’t a great way to make policy.
https://twitter.com/DuncanWeldon/status/1567104824843374594
Is she throwing them out there to see which one sticks?
The time to view polls is late September and into October after the party conferences
The universe loves irony.
Now for Truss to do her job, go back to London, make an inspiring speech outside No 10, appoint an effective Cabinet and get on with tackling issues like cost of living
Sterling up a couple of cents this morning, on news of the new PM.
Truss
noun; a framework made in simplest form from two short planks.
It would have been mildly amusing to have seen Johnson marooned in the Highlands.
https://twitter.com/davidherdson/status/1567116044761710592?s=46&t=ogZtt8PS6z6xpYoChJrTxg
Unfortunately for Truss she’s got to repay the debt to the ERG by giving that gig to Suella…
Has Russia shot itself in the foot, again?
This will be a long thread covering the probable Russian closing of gas to Europe and limited ability of Russia to reroute this to China with their current gas infrastructure.
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https://twitter.com/oalexanderdk/status/1567117173008601088
The Tories will lose next election unless Liz Truss stops the Channel invasion, makes us energy independent & boosts the economy by helping small business.
It is in the national interest for her to succeed on these things.
She has a lot of work to do.
Details should be announced this week if not today
She said that anyone who resigned would have to call a cab, because they wouldn’t be leaving in a government car.
Presumably, Johnson will today go back to London on the plane that bought him - a ‘royal’ military plane rather than a ‘government’ plane?
SD always goes on about Scottish subsamples if SCons are doing badly and the SNP doing well
Shall we at least wait until she appoints a Cabinet, takes PMQs, and makes a statement on energy bills, before dismissing her out of hand?
Yougov today though has 19% of 2019 Tory voters now switching to Labour as Boris departs
Nice necklace, by the way."
Repay from 2024 either through long term loading of energy bills or bond issue or some other suitable approach.
In other words provide domestic users and small businesses with some sort of stability and security now.
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I am in favour of Liz's proposals, even if she has nicked them wholesale from Labour
A well placed friend told me to expect London Bridge soon, just the other day