Liz Truss has said she will extend the controversial Rwanda asylum scheme, in a move to firm up support among Tory party voters in the race to succeed Boris Johnson.
The Foreign Secretary, in an interview with the Mail on Sunday, suggested that as Prime Minister she would extend the Rwanda policy, despite it currently being in legal limbo.
They tried to stiff us over Erasmus. I’m all for student exchange, have hosted loads, but it should be reasonable.
Except that’s not true . The EU wanted the UK to sign up for 7 years which is the normal timeframe for third countries and pay an association fee . This wasn’t controversial. The UK only wanted to participate in elements of Erasmus and wouldn’t commit to the full time period .
It’s more about some in governments hatred of anything that continues strong cultural ties with the EU .
Right - an association fee for exchanges. That’s the bit that is wrong. It’s about exchange, so why pay an association fee?
An association fee is what you pay as a third country . EU Erasmus students put in approx 440 million pounds into the UK economy .
The problem I have with the "slavery fuelled the Industrial Revolution" argument is that slavery and slave trading both retard economic development.
The USA gives us the perfect worked example. By 1860, the Free North East and Mid West was industrialising swiftly, the Slave South barely at all. The profits of slaving generally went not to investing in new businesses and industries, but to expensive forms of conspicuous consumption - grand houses, artworks, race horses, and fancy slaves, whose prices got bid upwards. Slavery also fostered a mentality among the slave owners that works against hard work, sobriety, innovation, all the things you need to grow new businesses. Most slavers died heavily in debt because of their absurdly lavish lifestyles.
Likewise the Ottoman Empire and its vassal states owned and traded slaves on a vast scale, and sponsored slave hunting in Africa, to the great benefit of much of their elite, but to no benefit at all for the mass of the population. Ditto Spanish and Portugese America, whose economies were stagnating by the 1800's.
The Industrial Revolution was disproportionately the work of nonconformists, the types of people who tended mostly to despise slavery.
This is completely right.
Slavery was like Free Movement for minimum wage labour, it acted to prevent and stop development in alternatives that removed the need for people.
The Industrial Revolution was about how to get more, with fewer people, which was the antithesis of slavery.
Signing off for now but to coin a phrase “nothing has changed”.
Brexit = a calamity Brexiteers = morons
Goodnight!
Only 10% of your nearly 3,000 posts has ever got a like, and you have flags and offtopics at over a 10% ratio of those - which must be a near record high ratio.
People aren't exactly loving your content.
I’m not here for likes. If the moderators think I am out of line, they will do the needful.
The fact you had to make this comment is more a reflection of you, rather than me.
Er, no. It's a reflection of you.
The "votes" speak for themselves.
But you were just moaning before about really bad posts getting lots of likes!
Now you're saying no likes = bad posts.
What is THIS a reflection of?
Way off topic
I am old enough to remember a cabal of three or four wild-eyed PB Tories who would express their solidarity by "liking" each other's shared dreary right wing fantasies. One could amuse oneself by guessing which of the others had given a particularly dull post a "like".
Signing off for now but to coin a phrase “nothing has changed”.
Brexit = a calamity Brexiteers = morons
Goodnight!
Only 10% of your nearly 3,000 posts has ever got a like, and you have flags and offtopics at over a 10% ratio of those - which must be a near record high ratio.
People aren't exactly loving your content.
I’m not here for likes. If the moderators think I am out of line, they will do the needful.
The fact you had to make this comment is more a reflection of you, rather than me.
Er, no. It's a reflection of you.
The "votes" speak for themselves.
But you were just moaning before about really bad posts getting lots of likes!
Now you're saying no likes = bad posts.
What is THIS a reflection of?
I'm saying no likes at all over a career = bad poster.
Bad individual posts can still get plenty of likes, normally by the herd circling to protect one of their own.
Absolutely. Stuff any whinging interest groups wanting to be sheltered from competition.
If Kiwi lamb is better or cheaper than British lamb, why shouldn't we take advantage of that?
Why should we be worried* about nation of 5 million 12,000 miles away selling us some extra tariff-free frozen lamb to a nation of 65 million?
It's exactly the situation pre-1980, which was a great benefit to us.
(*Incidentally, I bet the very same people moan about red-meat and climate change and drone on about veganism, but find it convenient not to do so in this case)
Signing off for now but to coin a phrase “nothing has changed”.
Brexit = a calamity Brexiteers = morons
Goodnight!
Only 10% of your nearly 3,000 posts has ever got a like, and you have flags and offtopics at over a 10% ratio of those - which must be a near record high ratio.
People aren't exactly loving your content.
I’m not here for likes. If the moderators think I am out of line, they will do the needful.
The fact you had to make this comment is more a reflection of you, rather than me.
You've ruffled his feathers and he will now target you. You're doing well, keep going!
Ah, the hypersensitive snowflake speaks.
One who can dish it out, but absolutely can't take it.
You get angry about signs in Waterloo station saying don't be racist
It was "sexist hate stops with men", actually. And it's you who hasn't been able to shut up about them ever since, not me.
You can never shut up about wokeism is destroying the world, this is just the latest example of it. Even though nobody actually knows or cares what you are on about.
And yet you keep going back to it and referencing it yourself, repeatedly, day after day.
Which means you yourself are thinking about it a lot, because you know, at some level, I have a point.
The problem I have with the "slavery fuelled the Industrial Revolution" argument is that slavery and slave trading both retard economic development.
The USA gives us the perfect worked example. By 1860, the Free North East and Mid West was industrialising swiftly, the Slave South barely at all. The profits of slaving generally went not to investing in new businesses and industries, but to expensive forms of conspicuous consumption - grand houses, artworks, race horses, and fancy slaves, whose prices got bid upwards. Slavery also fostered a mentality among the slave owners that works against hard work, sobriety, innovation, all the things you need to grow new businesses. Most slavers died heavily in debt because of their absurdly lavish lifestyles.
Likewise the Ottoman Empire and its vassal states owned and traded slaves on a vast scale, and sponsored slave hunting in Africa, to the great benefit of much of their elite, but to no benefit at all for the mass of the population. Ditto Spanish and Portugese America, whose economies were stagnating by the 1800's.
The Industrial Revolution was disproportionately the work of nonconformists, the types of people who tended mostly to despise slavery.
Likewise the Russian Empire was based upon the effective slavery of serfdom but was industrially backward.
Brendan May: "Global citizen, EU passport holder 🇪🇺, British resident."
In other words, a wanker.
So reporting facts is now being a wanker. The deal is loaded towards New Zealand farmers to the detriment of UK ones .
Er, no. It's mutual free access - a level playing field.
If you look at this nobber's feed it's the usual FBPE obsessive, as his treacherous description of himself as "global citizen" (but a British resident) highlights.
I have utter and absolute contempt for non-patriots. Utter disgust.
Brendan May: "Global citizen, EU passport holder 🇪🇺, British resident."
In other words, a wanker.
So reporting facts is now being a wanker. The deal is loaded towards New Zealand farmers to the detriment of UK ones .
Er, no. It's mutual free access - a level playing field.
If you look at this nobber's feed it's the usual FBPE obsessive, as his treacherous description of himself as "global citizen" (but a British resident) highlights.
I have utter and absolute contempt for non-patriots. Utter disgust.
Is that why you just off topiced me.? I thought my post related to both the headline topic and the thread I was replying to.
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The focus should be on Tory members.
The Foreign Secretary, in an interview with the Mail on Sunday, suggested that as Prime Minister she would extend the Rwanda policy, despite it currently being in legal limbo.
Mail on Sunday
This thread has got stuck in traffic jam in Dover
Slavery was like Free Movement for minimum wage labour, it acted to prevent and stop development in alternatives that removed the need for people.
The Industrial Revolution was about how to get more, with fewer people, which was the antithesis of slavery.
I am old enough to remember a cabal of three or four wild-eyed PB Tories who would express their solidarity by "liking" each other's shared dreary right wing fantasies. One could amuse oneself by guessing which of the others had given a particularly dull post a "like".
imho. Which is a drawback and an opportunity.
In other words, a wanker.
Bad individual posts can still get plenty of likes, normally by the herd circling to protect one of their own.
It's exactly the situation pre-1980, which was a great benefit to us.
(*Incidentally, I bet the very same people moan about red-meat and climate change and drone on about veganism, but find it convenient not to do so in this case)
Ten Hard Years
https://www.lolabooks.eu/products/ten-years-hard-labour-chris-williamson
Ken Loach likes it.
At this stage.
Which means you yourself are thinking about it a lot, because you know, at some level, I have a point.
If you look at this nobber's feed it's the usual FBPE obsessive, as his treacherous description of himself as "global citizen" (but a British resident) highlights.
I have utter and absolute contempt for non-patriots. Utter disgust.