I see Mordaunt admitted the government had not been delivering on the manifesto, needed to deliver on it, but also they needed a new modern agenda. Early days (still running behind) but Kemi is strong on platitudes, but delivers them well. Tom seems to have done the classic 'I'm connecting with the questioner by using their name'.
Keir Starmer must be on his second beer watching this — prime time TV, the 5 top Tories uniting to condemn their own record in government before descending into blue on blue — with no candidates particularly impressing
I suspect there has been a sigh of relief in Chez Starmer today. Penny has been poor.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I am impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs is doing well and saying it as it is, ocassionally floudering. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
"That's right. Run over, just like a freight train, only with a *bull*, it's worse! Cause a freight train don't back up and finish the job. Later on I'll show you the proper way to lie on the stretcher when they come to pick you up."
Immediately Tugendhat fails with his answer. He didn't start with 'yes.'
Remember Ed M being asked about Labour spending too much, saying No and getting gasps? Classic error - I recall reading he had a prepared response which answered in depth and concluded in the negative, because you need to set the stage first. You can always say 'Yes, but', if you need to seem like answering in the affirmative to something even if you are not.
If she cannot be bothered to look after her teeth she will not look after her country.
Ha! I take the opposite view. People who (unnecessarily) get their teeth straightened don't have the right priorities in life.
This debate is positively fizzing with exciting ideas as to how to take our country forward, and you think we should just choose the one with the worst teeth??
No, just that Kemi’s teeth are fine. TSE is a snob.
I suspect there has been a sigh of relief in Chez Starmer today. Penny has been poor.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I' m impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs' doing well and saying it as it is. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
I suspect Tugendhat's real goal is a seat in the cabinet - Defence, Foreign Affairs, or possibly the Treasury.
He clearly isn't suited to the last based on that answer, but whoever wins he's doing no harm to his chances of getting one of the first two.
Especially with Truss imploding.
Sunak doing much better here. He's giving it pretty straight. If only he was like this all the time.
If she cannot be bothered to look after her teeth she will not look after her country.
Ha! I take the opposite view. People who (unnecessarily) get their teeth straightened don't have the right priorities in life.
This debate is positively fizzing with exciting ideas as to how to take our country forward, and you think we should just choose the one with the worst teeth??
No, just that Kemi’s teeth are fine. TSE is a snob.
Strong working class credentials. My teeth were expensive to sort out.
If she cannot be bothered to look after her teeth she will not look after her country.
Ha! I take the opposite view. People who (unnecessarily) get their teeth straightened don't have the right priorities in life.
This debate is positively fizzing with exciting ideas as to how to take our country forward, and you think we should just choose the one with the worst teeth??
No, just that Kemi’s teeth are fine. TSE is a snob.
You were judging the candidates on how well dressed they are less than half an hour ago
Sunak is I’m afraid to say the only candidate that looks like they could cope with the PM job . On taxes he’s coming across very well and Truss looks clueless .
I suspect there has been a sigh of relief in Chez Starmer today. Penny has been poor.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I am impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs is doing well and saying it as it is, ocassionally floudering. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
This is a catastrofuck for the Tories. We are seeing just how drained the talent pool is. And they have spent this week going after various desperate bets - PENNIES FROM HEAVEN!!! And she's already demolished herself. Truss? A zombie and delusional when she coms out of her Thatcher seance.
I suspect there has been a sigh of relief in Chez Starmer today. Penny has been poor.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I am impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs is doing well and saying it as it is, ocassionally floudering. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
Sunak is SUCH a phoney. I downmark every PBer who falls for his shtick
Rishi I think will be favourite again by the end of the evening.
What a disappointment from Penny, sigh
He is coming across as by far the best. Although KB and TT have had their moments.
I mean, that's a bit like saying somebody is the least stupid person at the DfE. In this field, he always was the best candidate. But as @Big_G_NorthWales has been constantly saying, he also looks like an improvement on the current encumbrance, which is important.
I suspect there has been a sigh of relief in Chez Starmer today. Penny has been poor.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I am impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs is doing well and saying it as it is, ocassionally floudering. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
Sunak is SUCH a phoney. I downmark every PBer who falls for his shtick
Sunak is I’m afraid to say the only candidate that looks like they could cope with the PM job . On taxes he’s coming across very well and Truss looks clueless .
I suspect there has been a sigh of relief in Chez Starmer today. Penny has been poor.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I am impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs is doing well and saying it as it is, ocassionally floudering. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
Sunak is SUCH a phoney. I downmark every PBer who falls for his shtick
I wouldn't vote for the short trousered weasel, but compared to the remaining four, he is head and shoulders better.
I suspect there has been a sigh of relief in Chez Starmer today. Penny has been poor.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I am impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs is doing well and saying it as it is, ocassionally floudering. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
Sunak is SUCH a phoney. I downmark every PBer who falls for his shtick
I wouldn't vote for the short trousered weasel, but compared to the remaining four, he is head and shoulders better.
I would rather the country fail with any of the rest than succeed with Smarmi or Liz
Mordaunt talks about more money coming into the exchequer, when there isn't. and clearly struggling with grasping what's going on. Only Sunak seems to understand the problems.
If this becomes a referendum on the economy it will be ironic if the Chancellor is the key beneficiary.
This is a catastrofuck for the Tories. We are seeing just how drained the talent pool is. And they have spent this week going after various desperate bets - PENNIES FROM HEAVEN!!! And she's already demolished herself. Truss? A zombie and delusional when she coms out of her Thatcher seance.
Raising income tax thresholds in line with inflation to get more tax revenue?
Ffs, devastatingly incompetent. Someone explain fiscal drag to these people.
Is that... seriously what someone suggested? That's the opposite of getting more tax revenue (and the OBR has pointed out tax cuts don't pay for themselves).
Mordaunt talks about more money coming into the exchequer, when there isn't. and clearly struggling with grasping what's going on. Only Sunak seems to understand the problems.
If this becomes a referendum on the economy it will be ironic if the Chancellor is the key beneficiary.
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Superb!
Whether there is anyone with the power to do anything who will do anything is another question.
Or Tory MPs. 🍿
He'd have done well running in 2005. Not now.
So on to the debate, Rishi has been very polished, I am impressed with his presentation. Tommy Tugs is doing well and saying it as it is, ocassionally floudering. Badenoch, a little nervous, but quite strident and impressive. Penny struggling and Truss, absolutely FOS.
Kemi only one to have a chance to trounce Labour.
Mordaunt very...whiny?
And now Truss fully malfunctions.
He clearly isn't suited to the last based on that answer, but whoever wins he's doing no harm to his chances of getting one of the first two.
Especially with Truss imploding.
Sunak doing much better here. He's giving it pretty straight. If only he was like this all the time.
That's the zinger from Sunak.
Gets applause.
And now Truss saying she will not cause inflation by borrowing. Brown on fecking steroids.
What a disappointment from Penny, sigh
Truss now going after BoE, money supply? Wtf
So. Sunak. vs either Kemi or Tuggy.
Some potentially interesting ideas, makes the party feel good, but fundamentally wrong and leading the party further away from electability.
Bigger question- is the main winner tonight Boris?
The Tories could do worse.
I think Penny is an empty vessel I'm afraid.
The sad thing is, he has no plan for the country whatsoever. The others are at least aware the country needs a reboot.
She gets my vote.
Nailed on. Fantastic. At last.
I mean, that's a bit like saying somebody is the least stupid person at the DfE. In this field, he always was the best candidate. But as @Big_G_NorthWales has been constantly saying, he also looks like an improvement on the current encumbrance, which is important.
Fish on the river bank, gasping for air.
Mordaunt going big on social care and trying to show leg on Brexit - one eye to the members vote.
Penny disappoints and as for Truss please no
Ffs, devastatingly incompetent. Someone explain fiscal drag to these people.
Don't get me wrong, it's important, but communicates no empathy or sense as to what his long term vision is.
If this becomes a referendum on the economy it will be ironic if the Chancellor is the key beneficiary.
I love that word!
Why doesn't she just say
"You don't get it you stupid billionaire dwarf"
Nevertheless this format isn't particularly revealing